Door County Cherry
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6 hours ago, zenithwit said:
I get the sense that Dan is better one-on-one. So while he's getting clocked for being too quiet in the group, some players may disagree with the "He's a traitor" assessment because they've had good individual conversations with him.
I know this is edited so I'm trying not to judge Dan too much for things I may not have seen but for someone who is so good one-on-one, it feels like the only person he has tried to work one-on-one is Pavrati, even before she knew she was recruited to be a traitor.
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1 hour ago, peachmangosteen said:
In season 1, didn't they go into a separate room to pick a box to see if they got a shield? And then didn't the people who went in just not reveal to anyone if they had it and that made it so the traitors just never murdered anyone who went into the shield room?
I'm spoiling that because I'm not sure if that's how it worked on season 1 of this version or if it was either the UK and Australia version. I watched all 3 like one right after the other so I might have them mixed up.
Yes. Arie kept getting the shield and there were times when people knew and times when they didn't. He just never got targeted with the shield as a faithful and was a traitor the other times he got it.
36 minutes ago, AntFTW said:Also, good on Parvati for catching that Pete was trying to suss them out. I don't watch Big Brother, but that kind of maneuver that Pete is pulling is common on Survivor. I guess we'll find out a whole entire fucking week from now to find out if Dan listens to her.
The funny thing about this is they only realized what Pete was doing because he sussed out two of the traitors who could compare notes.
But I think Pavrati is ready to sacrifice Dan.
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4 minutes ago, edhopper said:
No judge would ever throw out a confession because the suspect might have assumed something. Police are allowed to lie to suspects.
I think it was a flimsy toss too but this is a little different than lying to a suspect to trick them into believing they have more evidence than they do. The lawyer's argument is that her client was addicted to Adderall and would have said anything when going through withdrawal to get back his access to the drug. If you look at confessions that later were shown to be false confessions, a common circumstance tends to be fatigue or fear and the belief that confessing will bring an end to the uncomfortable situation.
For this guy, it was the belief that confessing would get him back his access to the drug.
Overall, I really liked this episode. It had some ripped from the headlines stuff like the murder of the tech guy that was originally pinned on street crime but was an actual targeted attack, but it wasn't too on the nose. It talked about philosophical issues with AI as well.
In fact, the only thing that would have made this episode better is if we didn't have the false confession and the prosecution was less certain.
That said, I have a hard time believing the origin of that video wouldn't have been challenged in court as a chain of custody issue--especially since the guy accused of murdering the victim by the defense is the one who provided the video.
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This is upsetting:
The first three seasons are leaving Netflix so this is confirmation it won't have Season 4. I just hope this means another streaming network will pick it up. That's the only benefit I see to having the previous seasons coming off of Netflix.
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Alan's castle in the Scottish highlands welcomes a new arrival; The Faithful have a cunning plan to fight back; one of the traitors is in the hot seat.
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An unexpected witness appears when Shaw and Riley investigate a real estate agent's murder.
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A tech CEO is killed. Shaw and Riley untangle multiple leads to reveal a plot for retribution.
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21 hours ago, Ilovepie said:
Which is the stupidest reasoning - wouldn't you want to keep strong guys for the challenges to raise money?
Yes but I think the reasoning is basically toxic masculinity in that the traitor feels like he wants to be the big dog. Maybe bringing in a Survivor strategy to the Traitors. It doesn't make sense but people don't always make sense.
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3 hours ago, MicheleinPhilly said:
I think the fact that after Ekin-Su sipped from the chalice, Parvati took it back and sipped from it too may have been what caused everyone to totally overlook it.
I don't think she took it back. She said Cheers, gave her the cup and then said 'you keep it.' She then quickly stuffed food in her mouth to make it seem like that was the reason she wasn't drinking. And if you quickly looked at them, it might not be obvious that one was drinking and the other not since they were both putting things in their mouths.
2 hours ago, MicheleinPhilly said:Speaking of Kevin, WTF is Bling Empire???
It was a Netflix reality series in the vein of a Housewives show in that it's not competition based but rather lifestyle based. It was basically their attempt at doing Crazy Rich Asians as a reality series in that it followed well-off or well-connected Asians and Asian-Americans around LA and NY (for a spinoff).
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11 minutes ago, Xeliou66 said:
The only good thing is I like the new detective, Vince Riley, he fit in well from the start, they didn’t give him any over the top behavior or try to make him stand out too much, he just did his job
I don't know. In the beginning, they had him threaten to shoot a guy simply standing around with a knife and they ended his scenes by having him kill another suspect (although more obviously justified that time.)
So it felt a bit over-the-top but at least he hasn't gone on any rants yet. I like Reid Scott but I'm very confused by the new creative direction he's supposed to take us. I was hoping they'd use his comedic sensibility a bit more which would help the show but so far he's just there. He and Shaw are okay but don't have the chemistry Shaw had with Cosgrove yet.
I didn't mind that they started the episode about free speech but I definitely wish there would have been a twist away from it at the end. I mean there were two people from both sides of this issue willing to commit murder on the streets of New York over it. It felt so ridiculous.
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The Traitor's next murder is done in plain sight; one player must take their last breath.
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I don't even think the UK airdate has been released yet, has it?
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22 hours ago, Clare said:
I think Dan is much better one on one. I don't think the round tables will help his game. I feel like he will be the first traitor to go.
I don't know one or two of these stars but I've been reading Dan is good one on one.
But even one on one his choices are baffling. As soon as they selected Parvati as the new traitor, he kept working her before she knew the others were traitors.
You'd think he'd spend more time working non-traitors. It felt like he was trying to set up a TV reveal moment more than playing the long game.
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The Traitors are given a daunting task for their next murder; the players face a dark mission.
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The Traitors want a newcomer; a mission reveals hard truths; the first murder and banishment occur.
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An all-star cast arrives in Scotland; the Traitors are chosen, but there's a twist this time around.
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On 1/10/2024 at 5:16 PM, Xeliou66 said:
it pissed me off that they didn’t even mention Bernard last season.
It made me especially mad because they said we'd hear about where he went and that never materialized. Don't tell me you're going to tell me and then don't!
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Moses being missing is sad but I figured it was about scheduling, especially since the show films outside of the UK/Ireland area unlike the first season.
But both this season and last season had essentially two full episodes without William. I wonder if that's a budgeting thing or a scheduling thing.
I'd wonder if he were leaving the show except they stuck Nash in prison.
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On 1/8/2024 at 4:05 PM, 4merBachAddict said:
I really liked the episode!!! But a question: 'Leonard' who?
As mentioned above, Leonard is a character on Grantchester. The actor who played the minister who faked the robbery plays Leonard.
On 1/8/2024 at 4:49 PM, chaifan said:I think the problem is, they've never really given any reason as to why these two are not together. Yes, there is friction, but there's also obvious attraction on both sides. In the real world, those two would have been matched up for marriage by the time she was 15.
Your own post lays out the reasons the show has given as to why they're not together. And while I don't love will they/won't they, I actually think the show has done a good job navigating that tension with slow incremental changes and realizations each season.
I think William had an epiphany, thanks to Arabella, last season. He loves Eliza but he has to decide if he can be with her and give up the kind of life he'd prefer. The answer might be no but that's where we are in this episode.
On 1/8/2024 at 4:49 PM, chaifan said:I thought that was going to be Nash, it still could, I guess.
I thought so too. As much as they're frenemies, he has no reservations about what she does.
But I actually don't think a romantic rivalry is needed at this point. I don't think we need one to move the story forward at this point. That's what Arabella did last season. They just need to be honest with how they feel and make a decision. I'd only need another suitor if the decision is that they can't be together.
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1 hour ago, HoodlumSheep said:
Leonard staging a brothel robbery??? Not believable. 0/10.
Ha. I thought that was him but I didn't couldn't find a cast list to confirm.
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When a close friend of Mr. Potts is murdered, Eliza finds herself investigating the dark and macabre world of Victorian undertakers.
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The story of how it all began. It’s twelve years earlier and Duke and Eliza meet for the very first time.
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Things are going well for Eliza until a familiar face shows up to question her role at Nash & Sons. Meanwhile, Duke receives an offer that brings their relationship to a crisis point.
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Eliza and Nash are still struggling to work together when an explosive case takes them into a cutthroat industry where people will kill to keep their secrets.
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S02.E05: A Killer Move
in The Traitors (USA)
They probably could murder her but they might not think it's in their best strategic interest. Presumably, since she's new, she doesn't have built up suspicions towards anyone right now.