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  1. 7 minutes ago, Tuxcat said:

    I wonder if the cheerleaders are relieved TBH. They were forced into an NDA and couldn't even share with their teammates apparently. At least now the story is being told.

    Yeah, the whole “don’t tell your teammates that an executive was spying on you in the locker room” is the most telling, IMO. A settlement that large is pretty much always going to have a confidentiality agreement unless it’s illegal for some reason, but they were trying to sweep it under the rug from the very start. I’m really curious to know how this came to light. 

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  2. 10 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

    They can put in more rules that limit the amount of jumps allowed in a program, limit the amount of quads one skater can do in a program, add an extra step sequence, get rid of the bonus for jumps done in the second half of a program, etc.  The sport has options.

    I would be ok with any of those options. They need to do something. 

    6 minutes ago, choclatechip45 said:

    One of the reasons I am against raising the age is because of someone like Kyla Ross who grew to be 5'7 and in her words her knees kept touching the ground on the lower bar (rules against adjusting the bars). It seems dumb to me to punish athletes because of body types especially when they are the best at 15. 

     

    I agree, but I think this is the case no matter where the cutoff is. What’s the difference between a girl who turns 16 on December 31 in the Olympic year and one who turns 16 one day later on Jan 1 - basically nothing, but one is eligible for the Olympics and the other isn’t. Look at Nastia Liukin. She could’ve made the 2004 team, but had to wait four years, which included a bad ankle injury and a growth spurt  only to lose Olympic gold to an underaged He Kexin… And one can argue that He Kexin would’ve been screwed had she not competed because she actually was the best bar worker in the world in 2008. No matter what the cutoff is, there is someone who loses out.

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  3. It seems like fixing the scoring system is a likelier way to fix the issue of fifteen and sixteen year olds dominating than changing the age limit. You’re still going to have abuse, but I don’t think age limits have much to do with that anyway. In sports like track and field, swimming, basketball, etc, athletes seem to hit their peaks when they’re in their 20s. Sure you have some young phenoms, but it’s not as common. Gymnastics and figure skating seem like the 2 sports where very young girls have dominated, but the code of points in gymnastics seems to have fixed that in some capacity….it’s difficult for the tiny girls who have little muscle mass or haven’t gone through puberty to throw the kind of difficulty needed on vault and floor on a consistent basis. It’s why China hasn’t been a real contender lately…they just don’t have the difficulty on either event. 

    I think it’s harder for skating to fix the issue since skating doesn’t have multiple events to offset others. If you put more emphasis on the artistic side and away from quads, you just get even more subjectivity and favoritism for certain countries….

    1 minute ago, ShellsandCheese said:

    I just think the whole business is over complicated and there’s already a process that allows athletes to file for exemption if they must take a drug that is on the list. At the end of the day if Drug A is very similar to Drug B and both have the same performance enhancing effects; how do you justify A being okay and B being banned. 

    As for Kamila, the focus should be on the banned drugs and her punishment should be based on that - but I see why people are bringing up the other drugs.

    I don’t think anyone is saying Kamila should be banned for taking legal drugs. I just think it casts even more doubt on the silliness of her claim that the drug got into her system due to contamination from grandpa. She was taking a cocktail of similar drugs, so the odds of just this one getting into her bloodstream by accident is highly unlikely. And by accident, I mean the type that could result in an athlete not being punished at all. The team coach or doctor accidentally giving her a banned substance or giving it to her in a high enough dosage to where it was detectable at the time of the test (what I think is most likely) is not that type of an accident. That’s just doping.

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  4. 17 minutes ago, Lady Whistleup said:

    Also ... no judgment, just an observation. Larry Nasser apparently liked to abuse gymnasts at meets. Apparently, he liked that they had separate hotel rooms and he could just go in and do his thing (gross).

    Simone said that Tokyo 2021 was the FIRST time her parents ever were not with her at a meet. Apparently her parents always traveled with her, cooked her food, and took care of her needs. Which is great -- that's what parents are for.

    But you mean to tell me that Simone's parents traveled with her ALL those years and never noticed that there was this creepy guy going in and out of gymnasts' hotel rooms? 

    They probably assumed there were adults in the room and didn’t see him as creepy. The Nassar scandal was such a perfect storm of everything that is wrong in elite sports. I think parents assumed that there was adequate supervision at the ranch and definitely in the examination rooms, and from what I remember, he abused some girls when their parents were in the room! Everyone (parents, individual coaches, gymnasts) were scared of making waves because they didn’t want them or their kids to get blackballed by Marta. Then, you add in the fact that gymnasts have said that Nassar (classic predator) was one of the only adults who was nice to them. So, the gymnasts didnt want to think anything was wrong with the one person at the ranch who was slipping them snacks and treating them (from their perspectives) as people instead of robots….and boom, you get hundreds of girls abused.

    On the Valieva matter, I do think any decent parent who has a kid that trains with Eteri has to be wondering what the hell their kid is ingesting at this point. Beforehand, maybe they just assumed “the coach knows best,” but at this point, it would be crazy not to at least inquire about their meds and “vitamins.”

     

     

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  5. 59 minutes ago, Sarahsmile416 said:

    I’d be willing to guess that she is she is still taking things, she’s probably just taking other types of masking agents to hide it.  

    Yeah, I have no idea if she is still taking all of these drugs, but plenty of people who are doping have passed drug tests before getting caught. That’s part of the issue - the cheaters are always ahead of the tests. 

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  6. 6 minutes ago, Minneapple said:

    But that's why they raised the age limit, right? Now the gymnasts have to turn 16 in an Olympic year. Figure skating is similar, the girls have to be 15 the year before the Olympics. I don't know if they'll raise the age limit higher than that.

    I doubt they will raise the age higher than 16, but as seen with China in 2008, if the country is sponsoring the cheating, then it’s not that hard to simply change the birth year on the official documentation. You just have to do it early enough to not raise suspicion and be consistent. The only reason the 2000 Chinese team got caught was because the gymnast went back to using her real birthdate years later in official documentation. If Russia is willing to engage in doping 15 year olds, then changing a birthdate seems pretty minor in comparison.

    I do think that they need to raise the age to address this “protected person” issue. As it to stands now, it just seems like an invitation pump drugs into teenagers and then feign innocence. 

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  7. I’ve always been more of a gymnastics fan than a skating fan, but while I’ve soured some on both sports (Yuna Kim losing gold in 2014 disgusted me, and gymnastics has just lost all artistry), I still feel that gymnastics results are usually correct in the end, and I find the scoring system to be much easier to follow. With skating, I feel like it’s ridiculously complicated, and often times, it seems like the results are pre-decided. Given the comments that I’m seeing about the short program results, combined with the Russian cheating, this Olympics may be when I give up on figure skating all together.

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  8. 2 hours ago, Rootbeer said:

    Even if she inadvertently consumed something, how does that make it ok?  If she accidentally drank tainted water that just happened to help her performance, then, her performance was not legit.  I don't see how it matters whether it was her grandfather's med (it wasn't, of course) or given to her by her coaches, it potentially helped her win and that is not fair and she should be stripped of her Russian and European titles and sent home without competing.

    Right. It seems like a lot of Russian fans are trying hard to compare this to the Andrea Raducan situation from 2000, where Raducan was stripped of her All-Around gold, but got to keep her other medals from the Olympics. Therefore, they’re claiming that Valieva, who id also young, should still get to compete bc her Beijing samples have been clean. However, outside of the young ages of the athletes, the situations aren’t that similar.

    There is a legitimate reason why a 16 year old would take a Sudafed (a cold), and the team doctor admitted giving it to her. Also, my understanding is that the substance that Raducan tested positive for is banned on the day of competition, not at all times. Raducan had not taken it on the day of the other competitions. Here, there is no legitimate reason (outside of doping) for a healthy 15 year old girl to be taking that drug, and it is banned in and out competition, so it doesn’t matter if Valieva stopped using it once she got to the Olympics. It’s not the same situation. I’m curious if there is any previous example of an athlete testing positive for a substance banned at all times and only being suspended for a day… It’s rather absurd.

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  9. 4 hours ago, absnow54 said:

    I don’t understand how not letting her compete would be irreparably damaging, but okay. Thrust her into a competition that nobody wants her in, face the media of people ready to tear her apart, and then in 6 months when the investigation is over, have it all taken away anyway. This is all very cruel. Russia would have given her a fake medal no matter what. She skated her clean programs during the team event, wouldn’t they want to go out on that high note? 

    I take it that they’re saying that the irreparable harm would be that she could have some legitimate excuse (contamination, etc) for the positive test and not allowing her to compete would strip her of the opportunity to make that case and win the gold forever. Whereas if she competes, but they later disqualify her, the medals can be re-apportioned to the right competitors. The problem is, as you mentioned, this does irreparable harm to the sport and the other skaters. 

    The vast majority of people won’t be following this story in 6 weeks. All they will know is that the sport basically said there are no real consequences for doping minors and that Russian cheating goes unpunished. Who wants to follow a sport or enroll their kids in it when we know that a skater competing in the top competition tested positive for a banned substance less than 2 months ago? And it’s banned in and out of competition, so the excuse that her tests in Beijing have been clean is irrelevant..  I’m just disgusted with this ruling. 

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  10. I watched the Atlanta/rural GA episode this morning, and my goodness, the wife was one of the most annoying people ever on this show. She was insufferable. There’s no way in hell I would have agreed to that commute if I was the husband. Anyone who thinks it’s no big deal for their spouse to be in the car for 4 hours (for no reason) seems like a pretty shitty person. I don’t even care that it’s only a couple of days a week. That’s terrible. It’s not even like they were out in the country to save money, given that they spent $700k+.

    I also didn’t fully understand their options. There are several cities and towns between Clarkesville and Atlanta (Duluth, Lawrenceville, Suwannee, Buford, etc) where they could’ve gotten a big house for their budget and at least cut his commute down some. It seemed strange that they weren’t looking in any of those places, but perhaps the wife shot that down. She didn’t seem to be into compromises.

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  11. I would be ok with any of the remaining girls winning. I like all of them, and I think they all are pretty good bakers. I would’ve said Ellora was definitely the best baker before this week, but I can’t stand tart desserts (I’ve always hated sour candy as well) and her layers were tiny, so I thought she was rightfully bottom 2 this week. Lucia was the obvious person to go with all of that vanilla and her previous struggles, but I would have given the win to Summer. If I had to pick, I think I like Nadya the best. She has such a bright personality. 

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  12. On 2/5/2022 at 1:51 PM, aghst said:

    The visitor guest room is probably a HHI trope in many cases, with the house hunters rarely having guests to justify the higher rents.

    But I can believe that a young couple, going overseas for the first time, not having ever been out of the country previously, will have family and friends over.

    Or at least it's their intention and belief that people will visit them.

    Yes. I have no doubt that they will have guests from time to time. I completely understand not wanting a one bedroom for instance, so that guests have somewhere to stay. It’s just that it seems unlikely that they would have guests so often that a second bedroom couldn’t function as a workspace and guest bedroom.

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  13. I also didn't understand why the Milton Keynes couple needed 3 bedrooms... I mean, if it was in budget, fine, but it wasn't, and how often does she actually think they are going to have guests in Europe? She was perfectly willing to get a job to help out with expenses though, so she didn't bother me as much as some others who seem to want to go way over budget with no real way of paying for it. 

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  14. It’s kind of appalling that a $400k budget only gets you those rundown crappy houses in LA….the buyer was quite likeable though. She is a true “look on the bright side” type of person, and that was refreshing to see. I hope the purple house works out for her. It looked very sketchy to me. 

    I thought the Durham couple picked the right house. Blowing out the wall and creating a large master bath and closet in the 3rd house was not going to be cheap, and I assume that the post was in the middle of the living room because that wall is load bearing, so fixing that wasn’t going to be cheap either. Also, that bathroom was just bizarre. I’ve never seen an American home have a bathroom like that. 

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  15. 3 hours ago, TB12 said:

    I didn’t even know who this was. Someone needs to tell these young ladies to stop with procedures, micro blading & filters. Gina was so much cuter her rookie year, big sigh…

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    Yes. Not only are these procedures completely unnecessary but it ages them (that and the weight loss). I actually had just seen this story on IG. She looks like a different person from when she was a rookie.

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  16. 29 minutes ago, Surrealist said:

    Yeah. I didn't get the impression Fredrik even wanted to move to LA. Living in NYC had been his childhood dream.

     

     

    6 minutes ago, oakville said:

    I think Fredrik's husband was born in South Africa & wanted to live in a warmer climate.

    It would make more sense to move to Miami than L.A.

     

    Yeah. I always thought it was an odd move. It was known when they got married that Fredrik’s career was in New York. Also, Fredrik’s brother had just moved to NY to be near them. I can understand Derek’s disdain for cold weather (I hate cold weather too), but they’re rich. It seems like it would’ve made more sense for them to stay in NYC and Derek be the one to fly to warmer climates every now and then, especially since it doesn’t seem like he has a demanding job. Instead, Fredrik is flying back and forth across the country and living in LA, where he doesn’t fit in at all….

    I really wonder if he regrets the move. It’s definitely when he went downhill on MDL for me. He was always awful on the LA show, but even the last NY season was all about him living in LA and not being at his listings enough…blah, blah, blah. It got old quick! 

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  17. 18 hours ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

    Fredric certainly wore out his welcome on both editions of this show.    I wonder if his departure was only his idea?   

    I wish I could say the network wised up and stepped in, but it kind of seemed like they thought people liked the drama. A couple of years ago, it felt like the agents (including Fredrik) were mostly getting along on both editions, and the shows were SO much better. I don’t know who thought Fredrik’s drama on both editions, back to back, was good tv. 

    It wouldn’t shock me if his business partner stepped in. I can’t see how Fredrik staying on much longer was a good look professionally, and they certainly don’t need the exposure. 

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  18. 3 hours ago, ByaNose said:

    I’m one of them myself. I didn’t like him in NYC & I didn’t like him in LA either. Too much of an OTT ham. He might be a top seller but I never liked him. I’m sure he’ll end up on Netflix or somewhere else because he’s too much of a narcissist not to. I wonder if he needs to be replaced by another agent on either show or do they have enough agents as is? Time will tell. 

    I definitely don’t think LA needs any new agents. The show had a good balance without Fredrik. I think New York is a slightly different story. They probably don’t need another agent to produce the show, but I think it’s more likely that NY will add someone. 

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  19. 4 minutes ago, ByaNose said:

    Interesting. I didn’t mind him on the NY show as much as the LA show, but on both shows, he was becoming a caricature. Regardless, I do wonder if they’ll just let Ryan be the top dog or try and get in a new top broker to compete with him. I always saw NY as Fredrik/Ryan with Steve being a few rungs down and then KJ/Tyler being a few rungs down from Steve. 

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  20. 21 hours ago, ByTor said:

    She did, but she looks great now. And I assume her old uni still fits.

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    Yes! If anything, her old uniform may be a bit loose now. She is tiny! Hannah is another one who struggled with weight on the team, but seems to be much smaller now. 

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  21. 6 hours ago, LilyD said:

    Wow...is this the same woman? 

    My thoughts exactly! If you showed  me those 2 pictures side by side and didn’t specify that they were pictures of the same woman, I would swear that there were 2 different women. Don’t get me wrong, she looks good either way, but damn! For all the work that Lacey has had done, I’ve never thought that she looked like a totally different person.

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