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On 12/10/2021 at 6:17 PM, 3girlsforus said:
Is this sarcasm or was she really charged with falling asleep while babysitting?
not sure but someone said she fell asleep and the kids were outside the compound on the road, someone came along found them and called authorities,,,,it will come out eventually UPDATE read somewhere that this did not happen at the duggar compound but another residence.....
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1 hour ago, galaxygirl76 said:
Now we know that Jana was really there to do research for her own court date. Aw, look at you girl, courting and dating!
yep jana has a court date for jan 6 charged with endangering a minor https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10297817/Jana-Duggar-31-charged-endangering-welfare-child.html
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4 hours ago, Namaste said:
What does a hung jury actually mean? Can they retry him for the same crimes? TIA
all 12 have to agree if they have even 1 hold out that will not change their mind it is called a hung jury and the case is dismissed because the jury will never agree ..
usually there ends up being a 2nd trial
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On 12/4/2021 at 11:29 AM, CandyCaneTree said:
Am I losing my mind because I remember Anna saying that she takes care of the top of the babies and Smuggar takes care of the bottom half of the babies.
yes she said she take care of the northern (top breastfeeding , feeding) and josh takes the south ( lower half diaper changing) this takes on a a whole new HORRIBLE meaning knowing what we know now
I always thought it was weird he changes diapers, the woman do that ,,and he was always rude to anna made her carry in the luggage on their honeymoon...and another time she was extremely pregnant walking up steep steps to the plane and he didn't even hold her hand to help her
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On 12/2/2021 at 9:54 AM, Tabbygirl521 said:
There has to be a reason this cult believes sexual abuse and molestation happens in most families. With their perverted and repressive ideas and fixation in sex, it wouldn’t be surprising to me that many cultists end up twisted.
well, their leader Bill gothard (IBLP) told a woman that was exually molested by her father as a child that she was to thank him because it made her spiritually stronger"" that's how twisted this cult is..
and don't let the Bates family fool you, the dad Gill bates is still high up in IBLP
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2 hours ago, CandyCaneTree said:
Jana their mom is watching them.
in the world of Gothard/fundy the marriage ALWAYS comes first children 2nd
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14 minutes ago, Zella said:
Yeah I'm not trying to be a bitch, but Austin must know less about Google than just about any other 27-year-old on the planet. The info in the police report has been out there for years, and almost everything covered in court today has been well covered before today in previous hearings. If he's just finding this shit out now, it seems like at least partially a case of willful ignorance.
they are taught not to believe in the outside world so even if he heard something he would not believe it..after all his parents had mr pearl as one of the speakers at their camp a couple of years ago..yes THAT MR PEARL who wrote the book "how to train up a child" that has parents blanket training starting at 6 months because these 6 month olds are trying to deceive you.....several children died from the parents using this horrible book filled with abuse..YOu put baby on blanket and deliberately put toys off the blanket when the baby tries to crawl off you hit them with pvc pipe because it hurts more but doesn't mark as much,........you break their spirit....mr pearl in the book joyfully described how the children just seeing the the pipe laying there will be TOO TERRIFIED to disobey.......
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5 minutes ago, BitterApple said:
Weren't all the details in the police report?
not the more recent child porn
and josh started at 12 not 15
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32 minutes ago, MMEButterfly said:
Does anyone here have theories on why a twelve-year-old might molest his very young sisters? Could it be related to the parents hyper-flaunting of their sexuality? Just wondering about peoples' ideas.
they follow bill gothard and his IBLP...the men are taught that they cannot control their urges..anything of a sexual nature that happens it is always the woman and/or girls fault..but they are never allowed to self pleasure to DEAL with these urges .It is a patriarchy, the men make the decisions and are in control, the kids are homeschooled.
(they got really bad homeschooling there are some good programs out there).They have an accountability partner so they are not ever alone. you will notice the girls always seemed emotionally and mentally much younger than their physical years (stunted).
Bill gothard was sued by 15 women (he always had the prettiest ones work in his office ....one said that she told him she had been sexually molested by her father when she was a child..HIS RESPONSE ..he told her she should thank her father because it made her spiritually stronger (no joke he said that)
this cult religion is a recipe for disaster especially those of a sexual nature.
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1 hour ago, MargeGunderson said:
Delicious, delicious irony! With a giant helping of hubris.
yes josh was a minor if he had gone before a judge those records would have been sealed FOREVER ...Oh the IRONY
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1 hour ago, emmawoodhouse said:
Now *I* am believing that they told the Kellers. But what did the adult Kellers tell Anna? I think she got a very whitewashed version of events.
I read in duggarsnark there was a tHread by someone who knew the duggars had been in a few brief scenes in the show had met anna several times hung with josh ..They said anna new nothing about sex was not told was sex was un til her mother explained it the night before she got married.....so telling anna would have happened before the night before the wedding so how much understanding of the situation would she have had??
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1 hour ago, GeeGolly said:
Pure insanity, her being found not guilty!
I don't see how after he said to the feds who showed up at the car lot "why are you here was someone watching child porn?"
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1 minute ago, woodscommaelle said:
He probably goes by Ye. 😉 I don’t know who he is though. Can someone please fill me in?
Also, does Josh HAVE to take the stand? Do his sisters? (I don’t know how any of this works).
Bobye is a she she is the wife of jim holt the 2 families were friends
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17 minutes ago, Zella said:
I guess this means Jim Bob finally stopped playing where's Waldo with the subpoena?
jim bob must have got served the subpoena they were on a float in the springdale christmas parade . It would be funny if he get served at the parade! the day before the trial they have no shame
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36 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:
Guilty or innocent, I'd need a benzodiazepine prescription to make it through a trial as a defendant.
there is nothing on that website about jim bob but I found this “The theatre that Jim Bob Duggar bought in Branson Missouri is connected to the IBLP. The Freedom Encounter is set to be an interactive museum that will teach revisionist US History. Jim Bob Duggar paid $2.5M to purchase the Tony Orlando theatre.Oct 29, 2021
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1 hour ago, Jeeves said:
Josh isn't on parole.
he was at the wedding..I am sure there were children there he is NOT supposed to be around children...that was one of the stipulations for him to be out before the trial starts
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10 hours ago, Temperance said:
Josh was allegedly at the wedding on Friday which seems to violate his parole. It's doubtful the prosecution knows, and I don't think anything will come of it.
he is wearing an ankle monitor so wouldn't someone KNOW...if not who do we contact???
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10 hours ago, Churchhoney said:
If you avoid the flu shot, you can go for a threefer.
yes the trifecta!
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13 minutes ago, hathorlive said:
LOL, trust me, I'd take vacation time to go sit in that court room if there wasn't Covid. The forensics will be fascinating to listen to. The Feds know what they are doing. The defense chick...well, I hope she's gotten better over the years since I last saw her. But the fuckery will be AMAZING coming from the defense. I'm sad that Federal court cases aren't streamed. But I will be reading the press releases and telling y'all what I think. And again, it's only based on my experience and my cases.
Elle and Beau are best friends. I think Jake approves.
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We're bringing gum wrapper chains BACK!!
what defense chick???? who is this??? thanks
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27 minutes ago, beckie said:
Re: the baby's name. Is it possible that Anna never knew about the website? Or that maybe she knew, but didn't want the details, helping her perpetual state of denial? If she didn't know the name of the website, it's possible she didn't name Madyson after it.
she didn't announce the baby name until 3 weeks later..wouldn't someone in the family have mentioned the ashley madison debacle??? either josh picked the name because he enjoys taunting anna or anna picked it because..she forgave him after it happened and they and their relationship rose from the ashes like the phoenix so the name holds no importance to her it is all behind them he was forgiven
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3 minutes ago, Cinnabon said:
This is what I remember.
josh confessed to his dad, he confessed on the stage to the church elders, he confessed to jim bobs officer friend who gave josh a STERN talk ( and this cop is serving a life sentence for chid porn)
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Just now, Cinnabon said:
And he confessed more than once, didn’t he?
he confessed to his dad he confessed to the church elders. he confessed to jim bobs cop friend who gave josh a "stern talk" and that cop is now serving a life sentence for child porn
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12 hours ago, Boston said:
Raising hand - I made gum wrapper chains when i was at daycamp WAY back in the 70s.
I made them (not at camp though) and speaking of gum wrapper chains
32,555.68 m
The longest gum wrapper chain is 32,555.68 m (106,810 ft), and was achieved by Gary Duschl (USA) in Virginia Beach. Virginia, USA, on 10 January 2020. Gary has been constructing his gum wrapper chain since 1965.Jan 10, 2020
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1 hour ago, Westiepeach said:
While “big pregnant.”
is that the one where they had to walk out on the tarmac and climb the stairs into the plane? anna was hugely pregnant and volderjosh couldn't even be bothered to help her up the steep stairs
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Josh & Anna Smuggar: A Series of Unfortunate Events
in Counting On
· Edited by sue450
someone posted in one of the snark threads that they home schooled and went to these conventions where the duggars attended/spoke it was well known unwritten rule "never leave your child alone with josh duggar" so he WAS interested in little kids...and he lives on the compound in their bubble he would never have outside jobs that pedophiles are usually drawn to..,,though...for some insane reason they put him in charge of the childrens choir at one point