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On 7/20/2016 at 11:05 PM, Petunia13 said:
I think colored stones for engagement rings are chic. I love when people have an emerald or sapphire or something with a hint of edge. My ring was a boring cookie cutter one -a white diamond 1 carat princess cut. But it really is the thought that counts, I would never dream of snarking on someone's ring but I'm not a gold digger or pressed like Sonya. I think she's realizing her window is closing if she wants a sugar daddy or to be a trophy wife.
Is $2,000 the going rate to potty train a toddler? I guess it depends on how many mornings and afternoons you have to be there for however many weeks which would interfere with holding a normie job in expensive ass Manhattan. I always think back to Heath Ledger as the Joker's line in the Dark Knight when it comes to negotiation. "If you're good at something, never do it for free." I interpret it as if you kick ass at something and they obviously want/need that ability, ask for as much as you want shamelessly. The worst they can do is counter the number or say no. Which they probably won't. But the high number will influence them into thinking you're worth it when it comes to those kind of odd jobs.
I think that "window" closed a long long time ago for sonja
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On 7/20/2016 at 11:05 PM, Petunia13 said:
I think colored stones for engagement rings are chic. I love when people have an emerald or sapphire or something with a hint of edge. My ring was a boring cookie cutter one -a white diamond 1 carat princess cut. But it really is the thought that counts, I would never dream of snarking on someone's ring but I'm not a gold digger or pressed like Sonya. I think she's realizing her window is closing if she wants a sugar daddy or to be a trophy wife.
Is $2,000 the going rate to potty train a toddler? I guess it depends on how many mornings and afternoons you have to be there for however many weeks which would interfere with holding a normie job in expensive ass Manhattan. I always think back to Heath Ledger as the Joker's line in the Dark Knight when it comes to negotiation. "If you're good at something, never do it for free." I interpret it as if you kick ass at something and they obviously want/need that ability, ask for as much as you want shamelessly. The worst they can do is counter the number or say no. Which they probably won't. But the high number will influence them into thinking you're worth it when it comes to those kind of odd jobs.
I think that "window" closed a long long time ago for sonja
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On 6/2/2016 at 0:30 AM, gatopretoNYC said:
That is true. Somehow it seemed worse to me that Jules was telling Lu one on one, while on the phone, and that she was saying her father seemed incoherent.
Wasn't that the Pine Barrens, in NJ?
I don't drive, so could someone tell me how long a trip time-wise it is from NYC to the Berkshires? On the map, it looks like quite a shlep, compared to the Hamptons, the other popular RHONY vacay spot.
I was thinking the same thing!
Yep, the pine barrens
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17 minutes ago, RHJunkie said:
Disease refers to quality, habit or disposition that adversely affects a person's behavior, mental state, etc. I wouldn't say it's a disease in the medical sense though I've seen medical theories surrounding it (nothing really substantiated thought) - but it has the components that address the concept of disease. Some diseases you can cure (obesity is also considered a disease), some you can manage through lifestyle changes (alcohol, diabetes) and some have limited personal accountability in your progress (cancer).
Thank you for your input, RHJUNKIE, I appreciate it.
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why call alcholism à disease? A disease is not necessarily something one can control.....alcoholism is. I am a recovering alcoholic.....and I am in complete control of my drinking as, imo, so is Kim.sorry, I lost track of who I was responding to.
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I think Erika is probably the smartest of these women...i think she has probably figured them all out and will proceed to put them all in their
Respective places
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Oh boy....my sentiments exactly! How that woman gets away with stuff is amazing
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I don't understand why kim has her own show......wonder how long this last for an alcoholic and addict
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I think all these articles are ways to let the addict/alcoholic not feel responsible for his/her behavior...as I have said before, I am a recovering alcoholic, and the only "thing" in control of my drinking is ME.Thanks Umbelina for the link to this article.
--excerptThe new definition also describes addiction as a primary disease, meaning that it's not the result of other causes, such as emotional or psychiatric problems. And like cardiovascular disease and diabetes, addiction is recognized as a chronic disease; so it must be treated, managed and monitored over a person's lifetime, the researchers say.
Two decades of advancements in neuroscience convinced ASAM officials that addiction should be redefined by what's going on in the brain. For instance, research has shown that addiction affects the brain's reward circuitry, such that memories of previous experiences with food, sex, alcohol and other drugs trigger cravings and more addictive behaviors.
Brain circuitry that governs impulse control and judgment is also altered in the brains of addicts, resulting in the nonsensical pursuit of "rewards," such as alcohol and other drugs.
A long-standing debate has roiled over whether addicts have a choice over their behaviors, said Dr. Raju Hajela, former president of the Canadian Society of Addiction Medicine and chair of the ASAM committee on addiction's new definition.
"The disease creates distortions in thinking, feelings and perceptions, which drive people to behave in ways that are not understandable to others around them," Hajela said in a statement. "Simply put, addiction is not a choice. Addictive behaviors are a manifestation of the disease, not a cause."Even so, Hajela pointed out, choice does play a role in getting help.
"Because there is no pill which alone can cure addiction, choosing recovery over unhealthy behaviors is necessary," Hajela said.
This "choosing recovery" is akin to people with heart disease who may not choose the underlying genetic causes of their heart problems but do need to choose to eat healthier or begin exercising, in addition to medical or surgical interventions, the researchers said.
"So, we have to stop moralizing, blaming, controlling or smirking at the person with the disease of addiction, and start creating opportunities for individuals and families to get help and providing assistance in choosing proper treatment," Miller said.http://www.nbcnews.com/id/44147493/ns/health-addictions/t/addiction-now-defined-brain-disorder-not-behavior-issue/#.VphSq688KrV
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Given the previous discussion, thought this news was relevant.
I am confused; an addict simply has no control over the addiction? Simply going on my own experiences an alcoholic does have the control to stop drinking.
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My maternal grandfather was an alcolholic, my mother was diagnosed with depression and drank, I have been diagnosed with depression but so far I have no problem with alcohol.
Can't say what starts what but I am happy to share because in my family, secrets and shame did a number on all of us.
I am so glad you're having no problems with alcohol. I think it only exacerbates the depression and delays recovery. Hang in there, kiddo!
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Kim has not been sober on the show, ever IMO.
What I meant by the nature of her illness is that addicts/ alcoholics are selfish, entitled, manipulative people but they can't help themselves.
In other word, it is the disease acting up not the person.
It is hard for her family/friends not to enable her but her horrendeous behaviors do not give them a license to treat her like dirt by exposing her problems/mocking her, IMO.
What is their excuse?
I really don't see where anyone has treated Kim like dirt....Kim has brought the disgust with which she is viewed on herself with her own behavior. Imo, she has underlying psychiatric problems that need to be treated before she can really stop her substance abuse. Imo, alcoholics quite often have personality disorders which existed before the abuse began.
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Both depression and alcoholism runs in my family which is why I wrote that I was projecting.
And yes, I had bout of depression from time to time.
Thank you for your response....depression in particular runs on my father's side. My father liked to blame my problem on his grandfather who was an alcoholic which I always thought was a bit of a stretch..
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I think the problem with Kim is that she never really has acknowledged that she has a problem. And she's always full of excuses. Getting well would require admitting (really admitting, not just half-heartedly) that she needs help, and then being committed to getting that help and doing whatever is needed to accomplish her goal of getting well. She has never seemed anywhere near admitting that she really has a problem, and I honestly don't think her goal is getting well. She seems to be very stuck on proving to people that they can't tell her what to do. I don't know what has to happen before she finally realizes how serious her situation is, but apparently nothing that has gone on so far has been enough to serve as the wake-up call she so desperately needs. And that's a truly awful thing, because she's not just a danger to herself but also to others. We're never going to see anything change unless she herself decides that she has a problem. And I hope I'm wrong, but I just don't see that happening.
I agree wholeheartedly. I guess she still drives, and that is certainly a
scary thought.
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http://www.aafp.org/afp/2003/0401/p1529.html
The American Medical Association has recognized it as a disease since 1956. It's covered by health insurance as well. I don't feel like looking it all up, but obviously TPTB DO recognize it as a disease.
I do too. One person can take or leave alcohol/drugs, but the other simply can not. I've known many of both types, and have one friend who was a true addict that really did kick it, AA and DA really worked for him, but for most, it's a very tough haul.
I sympathize with Kim, she annoys me, but I do not think her struggle is easy, or simply a matter of "will power." I think she was hooked very young on booze (probably mommy, or mommy's stash) and her rigorous Hollywood schedule and surroundings exposed her to uppers and downers so she could work and then sleep. I often think of Judy Garland when I think of Kim, not 1/3rd of the talent, but probably very similar Hollywood childhood work, and exposure and expectations. Addictive personalities have a nightmarish life once they start on any of the drugs or booze, and the treatments are pretty shaky, though they work for some. Her life is hell.
Well, who am I to disagree with the AMA, ha, ha, but the underlying causes need to be addressed before she can begin to heal . I can certainly agree that addicts have a nightmarish life
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Interresting.
I feel that she was so damaged by both her childhood and her substance abuse issues that she most likely suffer from depression as well.
To me, Kim is incredibly sad however I could be projecting, who knows?
Oh yeah...most definitely depression....depression can be a very common reason for drinking.....I did and still do suffer from depression, and boy there are so many times I wish I could pick up a bottle and be "free" for a little while.....but I just might not stop. Kim is definitely a very sad woman, imo....I can see it in her eyes, and I used to feel so awful for her.....and I guess I still do.....but she could stop. When you say you "could be projecting" are you depessed? I certainly don't want to pry, but it is easier to empathize with someone also depressed.
Kim had a childhood that was not always in her control, but rather controlled by her mother and studios. I just don't think though she will ever get it together.....she has so very much to live for too, but continues on a path of destruction. She is definitely very ill.
http://www.aafp.org/afp/2003/0401/p1529.html
The American Medical Association has recognized it as a disease since 1956. It's covered by health insurance as well. I don't feel like looking it all up, but obviously TPTB DO recognize it as a disease.
I do too. One person can take or leave alcohol/drugs, but the other simply can not. I've known many of both types, and have one friend who was a true addict that really did kick it, AA and DA really worked for him, but for most, it's a very tough haul.
I sympathize with Kim, she annoys me, but I do not think her struggle is easy, or simply a matter of "will power." I think she was hooked very young on booze (probably mommy, or mommy's stash) and her rigorous Hollywood schedule and surroundings exposed her to uppers and downers so she could work and then sleep. I often think of Judy Garland when I think of Kim, not 1/3rd of the talent, but probably very similar Hollywood childhood work, and exposure and expectations. Addictive personalities have a nightmarish life once they start on any of the drugs or booze, and the treatments are pretty shaky, though they work for some. Her life is hell.
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I don't believe addiction is a disease....I think Kim could kick it if she REALLYi hear you but it is really kicking a bitch when she is down.
I believe that addiction is a disease and in actuality, she is part of a protected class, ymmv.
wanted too....she just simply doesn't want to. She has been an alcoholic and drug addict for so long, she wouldn't know how to live her life sober. I have some experience with alcoholism as I have been a recovering alcoholic for many years....I have been sober for a good while, but I must be hypervigilent to the temptation. I just don't think Kim has enough emotional strength to fight her demons. Imo, she needs long-term treatment in a really tough treatment program. Quite frankly, I think we'll read about her death in the next few years. Her body has sustained a lot of damage by now, one would think..damage that could effect her heart and brain. Recovery is not easy.
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Well, Kyle has never exhibited very good manners. She has always impressed me as a bit of a hayseed in the social arena.
Sorry, I thought I had gotten the post this was in response to
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I think racism is too strong a word for what she said. Ignorant, for sure. Stupid for sure.
What I think was racist, a racial slur to be specific was when RHOC Vicki used a horrible name for Asians. Now that was racist and....stupid and ignorant.
Tis very true and unfortunately what we've come to expect from miss vicki
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yes, that book is excellent. Bpds are exceptionally difficult to treat without the insight needed to benefit from therapy or the determination to get and stay well....BUT, I am one bpd who has recovered and recovered nicely.....so, my posting friends, it CAN be done. One needs to be ready.I agree with you about it presenting as borderline personality disorder as I now work in a short term psychiatric hospital and I do see that. And of course many are somatic simply because they want lots of medication. BPD are very hard patients to deal with too. The book " I hate you, don't leave me" is a good book for understanding the disorder if anyone is interested.
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Well, doesn't Paris look a bit like the little Swiss Maid on those coca commercials long ago,
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I was referring to Kyle's phony-baloney "disbelief" that five were scheduled on a Saturday like that was an unreasonable, uncommon occurrence...but yes, Sunday is for open houses, too :)
I would think Sunday would be one of the best days...when more people are not working.
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I think Kathy Hilton is simply one of those people with plenty of money, but no real social gracesI stated after last week's episode that I thought Yolanda had Lyme disease, but that depression was her biggest issue and I'm even more convinced after this episode. She said she suffered from depression after she split from Mohammed to the point she couldn't get out of bed. I think she knew her marriage was kaput and used the Lyme disease to hold on to it as long as she could. I am curious to see what Taylor says next week on account of the fact that she's close to David's ex-wife.
And if it is depression, then I'm incredibly sympathetic to her b/c I know it can be truly debilitating.
I'm sure Kyle also really did just want to see her niece walk down the aisle. But seriously, we watched Kyle host a book signing party for Nicky Hilton last year at her store, which also gave the book t.v. airtime. If she can host a book party got you, your parents can put their grievances aside and include her husband on the guest list.
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S08.E16: The Countess Bride
in The Real Housewives Of New York City
I think that "window" closed a long long time ago for sonja