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3 minutes ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:
Uh, I'm so sick of people bringing this up when they want to defend Liz. And, at least, the show allowed Jason to truly be mad at Sam over it - he even threatened to kill her. No matter what Liz lies to Jason about he always seemes to wave it away without getting mad at her at all. Even him getting mad at her about her lying to keep Jason and almost marrying him might not even count since BM's Jason might not be the real Jason. And even that he wasn't as mad at her about that as he should have been.
Again, Jason's forgiven Elizabeth for lots of things over the years. It's a part of their history. It pre-dates Sam/KMo's time on show. Guess you could say it's "canon" in their history at this point. Is it right? Nope, I acknowledge that, but it's been that way going back to the Jacob Young years as Lucky.
But to LexieLily's post about it should be a deal breaker, my point stands. They made Jason take back a woman who'd threatened his kid. To some, that was/is a retcon of who Jason was/is. But I have read that some J/S fans saw it as "angst".
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41 minutes ago, LexieLily said:
I realize this is a soap opera and it is tricky when some of these people (Elizabeth/Jason, Lulu/Valentin, Sonny/Ava) share children, but even on a soap opera there has to be a level of certain actions that are unforgivable and severely limit if not completely cut off your interactions with that person.
So Jason taking the woman back who watched his kid be kidnapped is different huh.
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39 minutes ago, HeatLifer said:
It's for sure a retcon. The show won't revisit the subject again. I guarantee it.
So the Elizabeth character doesn't deserve a break with the writers then. I guess I get that since you're not a fan of the character to begin with.
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40 minutes ago, HeatLifer said:
YES. Did no one else hear that!? I mean, whatever, they retcon everything, but this whole convo about Jason's forgiveness? It's bc he still doesn't know the truth. Liz wanted Her Time With Jason and wanted him out of the mob/away from Carly and Sonny and Sam.
In 2015 RC/JP needed some crap heavy for poor J/S and Elizabeth/Nik drew the short straws. IMO, these writers simply want her to acknowledge the crap (lie) that was dumped on her by the prior regime, hand wave it and move on. Her motivation was crap in 2015 and these writers simply don't care to make a big deal out of it. I'm okay with it. Doesn't change the fact that she did lie and that anchor will always be around her neck. Thanks RC/JP. Not.
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1 minute ago, Oracle42 said:
THIS! Nothing about the writing for Franco indicates that Todd Manning wouldn't be written just as badly
I get that. However, Todd's GH history is nothing like Franco's. That's the difference to me. Todd hasn't done things to GH characters that Franco has.
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27 minutes ago, BF4L said:
I agree things are different now in that there isn't non-stop propping of Franco since Jean left but PLEASE GOD LEAVE TODD ALONE. He doesn't deserved to be ruined again.
Also count me in among those disgusted by Friz. On so many levels. The fact that he looks too old for her. The fact that he kidnapped her son. The fact that Liz as a character has been pushed aside and ruined to prop the guy. Her kids are given to him. Her studio given to him. Her rapist coming back was all about him. She, a rape victim herself, defends him against the person he sexually assaulted. It's disgusting. I'm glad Jason beat the crap out of him and was NOT here for any of the excuses Liz was trying to sell today.
Yup. You've just outlined Jean P.'s view of Franco/Friz. Every single thing was about him. Him leeching off of Liz's character/history. I don't dislike RoHo being on the show, but the character he's playing now is toxic, thanks to writing decisions made by RC and JP. Friz needs to end and never see the light of day ever again.
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1 hour ago, LexieLily said:
Patient Six thinks of himself as Jason Morgan, so Sam and Danny are his family and thus should be important to him. I didn't hear anything in that PCPD conversation where Jason was upset that Liz's lie about Jake Doe (her main motivation) was done to hurt his wife and child.
Again, different writers with different motivations for writing the lie in the first place. Obviously the current regime doesn't think it was something he should be upset about. Frankly so far Jason Burton hasn't been all that concerned about the wifey and the back up boy. Sucks doesn't it when different regimes don't write things you'd think they should. Been there, lived that, alot, as a Liz fan. Mostly to prop up your favorite over the years, imo.
1 hour ago, peachmangosteen said:I do find it weird they're having Jason basically be like 'meh who cares' about everything. Carly fucked Franco, he doesn't care. Liz did what she did with Jake Doe, he doesn't care. Liz moves Franco in to live with his child, he doesn't care. Like what is even the point of any of this?
Well, if I squint I can wank it that Jason always seemed to gloss over Carly and Elizabeth's transgressions in the past. Going back to the Guza years. It has always irked some SBu/Jason fans that hate Liz that he was always overlooking her lies to him. I get their anger. She has jerked him around a bit over the years and he's always been forgiving toward Liz. So his hand wave in today's dialogue kind of echoed back to how he's always been with her, even when she'd done him wrong.
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5 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:
Why would a Liz fan even watch this shit?
Because I'm not you and I still like Becky's portrayal. She does the best she can with the crap the writers give her. Not sure why you'd even pose the question about "fans."
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1 hour ago, LexieLily said:
If, according to Patient Six, it was okay that Liz did what she did because deep down, she knew Jake Doe wasn't Jason, then why did Liz go through all of that - gaslighting her back-from-the-dead son, lying to everyone including five innocent children, pushing Patrick to stay with Sam and marry her - to keep Jake Doe to herself? If deep down, she knew Jake Doe wasn't Jason, why was she so worried that he'd go back to Sam? Why so determined to keep him from Danny?
Different writers with different motivations, imo. It wasn't necessary to write it in the first place two years ago so if CVE/SA simply write it off with a hand-wave now in today's dialogue? I have zero problems with the writers basically saying the truth is out to both Jasons and no big deal, lets move on. The crap writing that RC/JP heaped on the Elizabeth character was stoopid. *shrug*
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1 hour ago, Darklazr said:
It made no sense at all to pair Elizabeth with Franco in the first place and one of many reasons that FV needs to go, like today and he can take SA with him out the door.
I think the real RoHo/Franco fannie was the now retired former HW/Jean P. Given that FV didn't re-sign RoHo with a slam dunk contract (negotiations going down to the wire) makes me think he's not all that enamored of the actor like JP was. There is a decidedly different tone to the writing for Franco since she got sent off to retirement, imo. Friz pairing needs to die with a quickness and Franco character killed off. They can bring back Todd now that Prospect Park lawsuit is no longer an issue.
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Never mind.
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2 hours ago, dubbel zout said:
Let's not forget she's had three fathers, too. It's a miracle Charlotte hasn't murdered anyone in their sleep.
Jason did care about Jake, which is why he smartly let Elizabeth and Lucky raise him.
Well as Oracle pointed out above, the "Spencers" were the bullseye for Helena. Not seeing how it was ever smart of Elizabeth to insist that the putrid Spencer clan be anywhere near her kids. She was better off being a single mother, imo. *shrug* Too bad they knocked off AJ because that would have been the ultimate in your face to Jason if he and Elizabeth had been allowed to get together.
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7 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:
There was no real point to kill him in the first place, other than to clear the field for Jason and Sam to have a kid. It was a cruel storyline after they got inundated with fan outrage over canning Becky and had to backtrack on that, so I'm fine with them undoing it.
Exactly. They were going to simply write Elizabeth as leaving town, there was zero need to kill off Jake. But Geary, Jackson and Burton needed emmy bait scenes to snot and scenery chew through.. And as you mentioned, to make way for the baby that really matted to Frons.
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8 hours ago, General Days said:
What is "stelly"?
Not a what, a who. The squishy fangurl name for Steve/Kelly.
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1 hour ago, Oracle42 said:
Guza/Frons did that for me when they paired him with Courtney after he and Liz had one fight. It was an excessive level of nofucksgiven
Given that Guza killed Sonny's bimbo sister off after Pratt left? The call for jourtney came from Pratt/Frons, imo. Frons didn't care about Sonny's bimbo sister because he'd already moved on to his new boo KMo.
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Wonder who Burton roped into taking the selfie for him? Someone had to snap the shutter in order to get the full body shot Burton was aiming for.
These two seem to be in some sort of passive aggressive pissing match, imo. KMo has stated in years past that she owes her job to Burton. That it seemed like she might have a little chip on her shoulder that she was always beholden to him in the past for that. But now that she's made/making it work with Miller she no longer "needs" him. She's been an obvious "killy" cheerleader and I think she's trying to send him a message that she doesn't need him anymore.
I don't think Burton cares all that much about J/S. He knows she's not his bread & butter but he was hers, for years (in his mind).
The best tweet I saw the other day called "stelly" two thot's with the dueling pictures.
They both are skilled at passive/aggressive messages.
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I really do like short hair on Becky.
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2 hours ago, Darklazr said:
However, I really miss the previous Jake, because he looked so much like SBu and should not be this damned happy!
Sigh, me too. Even with the haircut, Hudson still isn't Jake, to me. I blame FV for making the switch.
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Today's episode felt like a "Friday" show. Cliffhanger with moron making cow eyes at the spouse through the window. It was barf-tastic.
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Fan video. BH is my favorite. 8)
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42 minutes ago, tricknasty said:
I don't read spoilers so is Billy Miller leaving? If not will there be a new quad with Andrew/Elizabeth/Jason/Sam? I'm confused...Fuck Nina, Sonny and Carly will always top my hate list. Michael and Nelle top the boring list.
I doubt Elizabeth will be a part of Jason's return in a way that speaks to her past with SBu's character. BH's role these days is to play 2nd fiddle to RoHo's Franco. I don't like Friz even though I think BH and RoHo do work well off each other. It's just too slanted writing to favor Franco. SBu will play some part in a triangle with Miller's "Jason" for Sam's girly parts. Blech.
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3 hours ago, PatsyandEddie said:
I seriously need Nina to fall off the launch that runs between the mainland and the island. The character is a PITA and MS has made her Phyllis 2.0 IMO.
The Staff was her usual bombastic self today playing Phyllis 2.0 (pretending to Neener). I did chuckle, however, at the dreadful dress she was wearing. It obviously wasn't chosen by MS because it so was not her style.
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10 hours ago, Darklazr said:
Helena enjoyed tormenting the Spencer's, Emily, Elizabeth and making snide remarks to Alexis, but never gave a shit about Sonny, Carly, Jason or Sam. Nope. Never! It is only under this regime that Helena hurled nasty remarks at Sam or even bothered to speak her name out loud.
Franco sucks, period.
#FreeElizabethImogene Webber!
I still see no need to give Jason a freaking twin. Why can't Fake Jason just be some poor stooge that looked enough like Jason that he was used by Helena and Victor?!
There was never any medical determination that Alexis was/is Sam's mother. It was all off of some stoopid J/S logic of a yearbook picture! J/S too stoopid to live 99.9% of the time.
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2 hours ago, dubbel zout said:
Carly is awfully anxious to pull the plug. It's been, what, two weeks in show time since Jason was shot.
The actor playing the clinic nurse looked really familiar.
The Shriners stuff was pretty good. It helps there wasn't some obnoxious little turd drama-queening around town that his life was ruined by the tiny scar on his cheek.
I like to think he's trying to block out the circumstances that led to him being Franco's father.
ETA: Until today, it was totally some random guy playing Dangerous Wheelchair Patient 6, because random guy had rather beautiful hands. SBu's are decent but not noteworthy.
She is Alla Korot, ex Jenna Norris of Another World in the early 90's.
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Episode Discussion: TFGH
in General Hospital
· Edited by coffee drinker
My problem with Carly's supposed "truthtelling" today is that she's completely missing the fact that Drewson didn't do/become Jason on purpose. To dupe Carson or Sam or anybody else. He is a victim in all of this as well. Someone has messed with his life (ala Jason Bourne.) But Carly blathers on about Sam needing to see Drewson as a fraud and go back to P6 because he's the real deal. Carly needs to have a sock shoved down her throat and gag on it for a good long time. LW has played this bombastic entitled bitch take on Carly since she took over the role. I loathed it when she had scenes with Becky during the baby Jake story line back in 2006-07. I really don't like LW as an actress.