[S02.E04: One Royal Hangover]

I have to think that Julie's, Woe is me..., poor poor us, song is maybe just a way to create a narrative that might keep her on LoL.

Those old piles are expensive to maintain but I'm not buying that the wolf is at their door.

I know that Celebrity Net Worth is not always reliable but it seems to hit the target once in a while.

I have to wonder if Julie is just plain not cut out for reality tv. She seems so fragile. And she also seems, to me, to be trying too hard. And I'm surprised that Luke et al are interested in participating. But, in the end, it has to help the business. Mapperton is gorgeous!

Both Caroline S and her awful sil are becoming caricatures. Ugly ones.

I sincerely hope so.  And if she is looking for pity, mission accomplished with me!  I feel terrible for her.

 

I think fragile personalities are great for reality TV.....reality TV just isn't great for them....and thats the problem.

 

I think Luke has been on camera once, and he looked absolutely uncomfortable.

 

I still like Caroline S, but it does her no favors to pick on someone like Julie, it just makes her look like a monster.

[Season 8 Spoilers, First Look Previews, Gossip, Etc.]

Maybe Porsha's setting herself up to be the one to go against Kim?? If so.... girl, you might as well start packing your bags....

Oh yeah -- I think they would drop Porsha's peach like a stone if it meant keeping a real, bonafide star like Kim Fields.  Especially if Porsha's romance went sideways.....

[Commercials That Annoy, Irritate or Outright Enrage]

Yoplait should not be able to call itself yogurt.  Just like some "cheese" has to be labled "cheese product" - it should be the same with Yoplait and its ilk. 

LOL - Yoplait = "yogurt product."

 

Apparently Yopliat wants to be everything it isnt, key lime pie, boston creme pie, apple turnover, decent tasting greek yogurt.  I'm guessing its hard to sell people on eating watery flavorless yogurt.

[Season 8 Spoilers, First Look Previews, Gossip, Etc.]

I just cannot sit well with a statement saying Porsha is an uneducated, violent tramp.  She had a brain fart two years ago and no one has allowed her to live it down.  She is college educated and she is intelligent enough to run a full business while working full time in two jobs.  As for the Kenya mess, Porsha was provoked at a time when she had just come off a messy divorce to say the very least, trying not to get too emotional and then be called an adulterer and stupid by the woman who had been harrassing her for nearly a year and a half.  As for the Cynthia mess, no one knows how that came about and Porsha has dismissed it as just folks drinking a little too much.  Other than finally standing up for herself she has not been any more violent than just about everyone else on the show.  as far as her being a tramp, there is no evidence of her being a tramp.  She's young and she's enjoying life and nothing more.

As far as I know Porsha never even graduated from high school.  She attended AIU, which is an online for profit college that doesn't have any admission requirements other than a GED (which I imagine Porsha got at some point).  There are numerous complaints about AIU being a scam college.  I don't know if I would extol the virtues of Porsha's intellect by pointing to an education at AIU, it just seems like shaky ground.

 

I also don't agree that being verbally called out is provocation that justifies violence.  And to be fair, Kenya didn't call her names out of the blue, both were engaged in an argument.  Porsha was giving as good as she was getting from Kenya and called Kenya a number of names too.  So yes, she has been more violent than others on the show.  If you agree with her being violent that I think that's fine, but I don't think its fair to try to pull everyone else down to Porsha level to try to justify Porsha's behavior.  

 

I want to see the tape of the Porsha/Cynthia incident, before forming a final opinion, but I suspect it doesn't paint Porsha in a very positive light if she is trying to play it down now.

Producers must be really bummed that Porsha's romance with the football player flamed out. I'd love to hear his story.

That is so shocking, I felt like that was going to be a love story for the ages from the way he fondled her butt in pictures, and the romantic way they held assault rifles together.  Heartbreaking.

[S02.E04: One Royal Hangover]

I don't think thy are royal, but are aristocrats or nobility.

 

I know he is a Lord or an Earl, but isn't he like 415th in line to the throne?  I'm not sure if it makes you a royal or not.  But I'm sure some bank or financial services firm wants even a Lord or an Earl or any noble just for the access it provides.

[S02.E03: We Are All One-Sie]

Yoga Teacher here, I can only comment on Chicago market but I would say an experienced teacher in a big city ( depending on the studio) would pull 50, 60 dollars a class? Some also pay per head, so if she taught 60 people on New years day ( is that what she said?) she could have pulled a big chunk of change. Most teachers who solely teach yoga do a lot of workshops to supplement teaching classes, because if you teach one class at one studio and then have to rush across town to teach another ect its not only exhausting but you wind up working way longer

 

Also, is she teaching 6 classes a day? No wonder she was/is seeming like a hot freaking mess. That is a lot even if its your full time job. Teaching is exhausting ( and I'm not talking physically)

BUT you will not make enough money teaching yoga to save a multi million dollar estate, fact. lol.

 

And I don't mean to judge her but being a yoga teacher she should really let that shit gooooo, especially Carolines comment about her headstand. If she is slow so what,  you don't have to explain yourself to anyone. She took it too personally and Caroline is a bitch ( who should have apologized once she saw Julie was upset) but I really didn't understand why she got so worked up about it. Yoga isn't a race. I think she is just overworked, over stressed, her husband SUCKS and was a little drunk.

 

I point to the drinking as the main offender in this situation.  I know I generally have a very thick skin, but there are some situations where I'm sensitive.  However, I know how to mask my feelings so if someone hits that button all they won't get any emotion out of me.

 

But, from what I understand of drinking it might remove the mask so even if you know how to hide your emotions normally, you'll let them fly.  And of course Caroline had just nettled her about her business plan...so those feelings of being picked on by Caroline were already there.  Now you add some liquor, and someone suggests both that you are a bad yoga teacher (which is your passion) and you somehow aren't fit for your title.....ouch!

[S02.E04: One Royal Hangover]

Seems like Juliet didn't want to discuss on camera Caroline's mean comments to her but Caroline didn't have a problem with it over dinner with her husband. Caroline is ugly inside and out.

 

Well, I think Juliet sat back and took stock of things.  Juliet has no problem taking a dump on people she doesn't think she needs, but I think she realizes that if she wants to advance socially in London its not a good idea to upset Caroline too much.  Which is why I think, after considering that everyone she wants to be friends with (Caroline F., Sophie) are better friends with Caroline S.  And if Caroline S. were actually to make it her mission to get Juliet ostracized it would be pretty easy, because Juliet isn't all that likable and she doesn't bring very much to the table.  People can live without her, and she doesn't seem to have a ton of friends because her behavior alienates people.

 

If she hadn't alienated Annabelle last year, she could have probably gotten to meet a lot of influential people through Annabelle.  And then she wouldn't have to rely solely on Caroline S.  If she hadn't alienated Marisa, that might have been another group of influential people she could have met through Marisa and Matt.  But she managed to alienate Marisa.  

 

So, I suspect that after the conversation where Caroline threatened to "wipe the floor" with Juliet, she figured it was more important to try to keep Caroline as a friend and sweep everything under the rug.  Except she spoke to Julie first, and Julie told Annabelle -- and now the cats out of the bag!  But boy, what I wouldn't have given to hear that conversation, it sounds like Caroline really lost her temper, which sounds like a rarity for her.

[Commercials That Annoy, Irritate or Outright Enrage]

Are they the ones who try to convince me that Greek yogurt doesn't have to be thick?  Because, if so, they are wrong.  Greek-style yogurt should be thick and on the tart/sour side.  Otherwise it's just yogurt.

yes, all yogurt can taste like watery, disgusting Yoplait if you just wish hard enough.

 

But yeah -- that drives me batty, if you don't want thick yogurt stop eating Greek yogurt and just eat regular yogurt!  Its like saying you want to eat extra sharp cheddar cheese, but you don't want it to be tangy, you want it to taste super salty and be in pre-packaged slices.....well buy American cheese than!

[Commercials That Annoy, Irritate or Outright Enrage]

I think it's an unpopular opinion here but I actually like yogurt and would rather eat it than a crappy doughnut which will probably make me sick.

I like yogurt, I don't like Yoplait.  Based on taste, and on principal.

[S02.E04: One Royal Hangover]

I don't think anyone is expecting Julie to save the family pile. I think she and her husband have mentioned the need for money as a way to draw attention to Mapperton, which apparently has commercial offerings. I don't know why Julie made that crazed statement that the development and sale of JUB would help Mapperton - there has to be more to that back story. I think her stress and emotional instability are making a lot of people assume she's being asked to "save Mapperton." I think she bikes and teaches yoga because she's a fitness fiend and that it's her own nature to worry and be anxious.

 

 

I'm with you. This most recent episode was a messy bore. I wonder if the ratings are in the tank.

 

How many times have we seen Caroline getting her makeup done? The lack of production creativity is mind-boggling.

 

Bravo's tired old formula of privileged women getting drunk and screeching at each other needs to change.

 

I normally accept what people say when it makes sense.  In this case, I think what Julie has said makes sense.  It takes 200k a year to just maintain Mapperton with no profit.  Its a beautiful estate, no doubt, but IIRC there are a number of estates that offer the same services (weddings, events, tours, visits) so they are competing with those.  I think you would have to put in a lot of effort to even hit the break even.  And it sounds like its 200k just for maintenance, thats not accounting for something major going wrong with the house.

 

So on top of having to earn a base of 200k a year just for the house, you also have to support 8 people from the earnings of the house.  Julie + Luke + in laws + 4 kids.  You have to pay the rent on a small London flat.  Private school (I imagine) for 4 children.  And just the basics like food, clothing, etc.

 

I can't imagine Mapperton....on its own, earns 200k.  I can't begin to envision Mapperton earning a substantial profit over 200k to support 8 people.

 

So to me, it makes sense that Julie is in this terrible financial situation.  Those old homes are beautiful money pits from what I understand.

[S02.E04: One Royal Hangover]

I totally agree with this. Caroline was simulating humping Gregor towards the end of her little show. Even if her body was not that close to his, the actions were the same.  Now maybe she didn't think she did anything wrong. But if that is the case why did she totally lie later on in the suite where the party was continuing? I can't remember who it was that she had lie down on the floor, but then she just stood over that person and said that is all she had done with Gregor. She is a lying liar who lies.

 

But then I don't have any sympathy for Juliet either. In her lunch with Annabelle and Julie they were trying to be supportive and she totally blew them off. She is like the loser in high school who ditches her friends whenever the mean girl throws her a crumb. Pathetic.

 

Juliet getting upset over Caroline not taking accountability is so rich.  Did Juliet apologize for backing out of the birthday party that she asked Marisa to throw for her?  And shopping around Thanksgiving to see if she could get a better offer?  No, rather she did everything in her power to keep from apologizing, including to deflect, guilt, blame others and act defensive.  Caroline's refusal to apologize is sweet justice, especially since Caroline apparently upped the ante by threatening to run Juliet down with a car and wipe the floor with her.  

 

Let me get all Clinton-esque for a minute.  I think that maybe its all in the definition of humping.  I think of humping as genitals in close proximity -- normally touching, but at least close.  What I saw was Caroline standing over Gregor doing some sort of thrusting motion, but she was pretty far away.  It sort of reminded me of those frat pranks (in the movies) where one guy falls asleep and everyone else takes embarrassing pictures with him.

I didn't watch the first season so I could easily be missing things but I like Marissa. She and her husband seem to have a great and supportive relationship both personally and professionally. Also, it is probably just because of the bullshit businesses on Bravo shows but the fact that she actually is over the course of a season going to open her hot dog spot is refreshing!

 

I don't have a great love for Marissa, but I don't hate her either.  I've watched both seasons and I never quite got the hate for her.

[S02.E04: One Royal Hangover]

London is teeming with successful, attractive ex-pat Yanks - why can Bravo only lure such relatively "weak sisters" as Juliet (especially) = no career nor glam + obnoxious personality, apparently cast as shit stirrer + she's not even attractive physically imo (but might be if she'd address her HAIR & wardrobe;) Marissa = try hard, never missed when absent, nice but boring; & Julie = insecure nervous wreck (but isn't yoga so calming??) + weird (headstands in evening wear - at a dinner party - WHY??) + just overall in no emotional shape for RHo'wifery (TEARS at MeanCaroline's clearly joking comment = ridic overreaction.)  I do cut Julie tremendous slack, however, as her spouse is, & has been, apparently so mentally impaired for yrs (due to incorrectly prescribed psychotropic drugs) that he's been unable to work & must be cared for to some degree by Julie & her in-laws.  So, Bravo, where are the intimidatingly rich, frighteningly competent & disgustingly gorgeous American (a)broads? Betcha Lisa Vanderpump knows a few! 

 

I like Julie, and I want her to stay on the show because she clearly needs the money.  And ultimately I think it was a confluence of things that caused her overreaction.  Not the least of which was alcohol, which I heard makes you more likely to show people how you really feel.  I think Julie was just as hurt when Caroline decided to rescind her apology -- which was a real asshole move -- but she didn't seem to cry or act out.  So, I think she was already feeling a little hurt because Caroline picked on her professional competence....with her business plan, and than with yoga, which Julie is passionate about and she was drunk.  I don't think she would have cried and carried on if there hadn't been liquor involved.  Especially given the fact that all Julie seems to eat is salad, kale and balls.

 

ITA about Juliet though, I loathe her -- but I guess every show has to have a villain, and Juliet seems so lacking in self-awareness that she seems a good fit for the role.  I still don't understand how she is a stylist.  80% of the time she looks messy and unkempt.

[Real vs. TV Law School: More Cold Calling, Fewer Murder Coverups]

Is the concept of "pass" a law school thing, or an American thing?

I have never enountered it in 8 years of university education. When I was watching the episode, I just interpreted it as this other prof allows them to pass if they don't know something (and has actually told them that pass is an option), while other profs, including AK, do not have this "rule". I had no idea that it was a common thing, but based on the discussion here, it seems to be.

 

I think its a law school thing like ChicagoRedshirt said because of the Socratic method.

 

And I don't really think its a thing there either, I just think students say it when they are called on and they don't know the answer.  Its universally accepted shorthand for "I didn't really read the case and I can't brief it."

 

Some professors will have a policy about "passes" in that they will tell you up front that you can have one pass for the entire semester without hassle or harassment, or there are no "passes" at all (which is a little silly IMO, because you literally can't force a person to talk, especially about a case they know nothing about), or if you have too many "passes" it might impact your grade.  

 

Most of my professors didn't have any "pass" policy, but law school is already a judgmental place full of type A overachieving personalities.  So, a lot of people are embarrassed by the idea of looking foolish in front of the class.  And than there are always the professors that will do everything in their power to, as someone else said, drag a student for passing.  And than sometimes  you'll really hit gold when a professor gets multiple people "passing" and they lose their temper and yell at the entire class.  That was always entertaining, because it was such high drama.

[S02.E02: Rise Of The Villains: Knock, Knock]

And the anti has officially been upped.

 

There are a couple ways shows go.  Some shows explode on you from the start but can't maintain the fire for very long.  Then there are others that have a very slow start.  People drop the show pretty quickly because the show takes time to sometimes even an entire season to build a complicated and complex world and if the show survives to a second season you see what the world is capable of.   I think Gotham is the 2nd.  Season 1 took almost an entire season to build a complicated world and dark world but I am pretty sure it was worth it.

 

Damn Barbara has come into her own.  And I agree,  Why do the boys get to have all of the fun?  I am loving Barbara but then i think people are giving her a bad rap. I think she has been a great character since mid way through the first season.  Once the show figured out what to do with her she has become something to behold.

 

Nygma might have finally gotten Ms Kringle to Notice him.

 

 

 

Well, he certainly got the attention of the cop who walked in on him talking to himself!  Maybe he should ask that guy out!

I might be in the minority, but I hate The Joker guy. I feel like he's trying too hard. I ended up fast forwarding through some of his scenes.

 

I would be annoyed if I didn't feel like the over, over, over the top acting didn't reflect an early Joker trying to come into his own.  The Joker, IMO has been an OTT character, so much theater, especially Nicholson as the Joker.  I can see a young joker trying too hard in his early years and settling into the adult OTT Joker later.

No love for Cesar Romero?  Yeah, I'm old.

 

Bruce, you may be able to fire your butler (temporarily, of course) but I don't think a 13 or 14-year-old can actually fire his guardian.

I can't remember if Alfred was officially named Bruce's legal guardian.  I didn't think so, however, even if he was Bruce could petition the court for a change of guardianship.  Given the resources at his disposal I don't think it would be an issue, especially seeing as most the show has a set up where people in power can be "bought."  It would be a fight if Bruce was opposed, but if it was Bruce's idea and he could show it was in his best interest I could see it happening.  

[S02.E02: Rise Of The Villains: Knock, Knock]

Dayum. RIP Essen and Gotham PD. But at least Bullock is back! Let's hope he survives the season.

Okay Jerome, I believe you're the Joker now! He had a shaky backstory but I'm enjoying him now.

And I don't care if Barbara is more fun as a villian, she's still the same whiny, self-righteous bitch she was last season, blaming Jim for everything that went wrong. I'm ready for Jim or Leslie to put a bullet between her eyes very soon.

I still hate Barbara -- but I feel better about it now because the show has stopped trying to make her a sympathetic character.  That is the only thing that is better about her being a villain. I think she is going to end up killing Leslie.

"If he is the Joker it makes it ridiculous that a decade from now Bruce and Jim can't figure out the actual identity of the Joker."

 

I put it down to repeated violent head injuries.

I feel like in the movie (at least the first one) Batman knew Jokers real identity as a low level worker bee for a crime boss (he had his name and everything) it was just that he could never really find him or pin him down.  

 

I can't imagine he had his Amazon purchases sent to a home under his name.

[Commercials That Annoy, Irritate or Outright Enrage]

You buy bids (I think at 0.60 each) in packages, so every time you bid, it costs you 0.60. If you look closely during the commercial when the person says "I won this whatever for $32.17" you'll see in very tiny letters something about them bidding 854 times which adds another $512.40 to the cost of the item. Of course, that's only if you win, if you don't win, you lose your bid money & get nothing.

Oh my, I have to admit, thats a clever hustle

[Commercials That Annoy, Irritate or Outright Enrage]

I did a bid-thing once.  It involved bidding ONE PENNY at a time.  After a couple hundred clicks, I gave up.

LMAO -- what in the world were you bidding on?  

 

What a way to spend an afternoon!

[Season 14 Discussion]

So if you destroy some very materialistic people's belongings, why on earth wouldn't you take all your things with you to the hotel? 

You can't assign these girls any logic.  Logically, the only thing you should pack for the bad girls club is a potato sack and Wet n' Wild makeup.  

 

According to these any and all of these girls they are bringing designer, brand name stuff worth thousands of a dollars into a house where things are routinely thrown in a pool or dumped on the street. 

 

Or how about people invest in a good, solid luggage lock or masterkey lock?

[Commercials That Annoy, Irritate or Outright Enrage]

Cute dress, though.  WTF does she have two spoons for?  I mean, other than to make eyebrow jewelry?

I guess she wants to eat twice as much crappy yogurt?  Or given her demonstrated mental capacity she may have just forgotten she already had another spoon.

That's because they make all their money on the bids, not the stuff you're bidding on.

So, whats the hustle here -- do you pay to get onto the site, is it like Ebay where the site takes a percentage of the sale price?

 

I feel like any site luring older people with the promise of $2.53 IPhones has to be hustle-y

[Commercials That Annoy, Irritate or Outright Enrage]

Is it just me, or does anyone else think that the first woman they show is trying to hide her true identity? First, her really bad wig, second, WTF kind of voice is that? It's like nails on a chalkboard to me. I hate this commercial.

What a wonderful way to convince people to spend money they don't have on crap they will never use.

 

And I like how you know its legit because they come up with exact dollars and cents for the items. 

[Commercials That Annoy, Irritate or Outright Enrage]

Yoplait continues its legacy of annoying commercials.

 

 

This does not make me want to buy your crappy yogurt.  Please stop trying.  An adult woman with a french accent who appears to have the brain of a 5 year old doesn't sweeten the pot.  I also don't need subtitles, but I'm sure you think that's going to convince me that Yoplait is really, the hip, edgy yogurt I should be eating.

[Season 8 Spoilers, First Look Previews, Gossip, Etc.]

Porsha better stop playing. I was born after TFOL finished its initial run and even I know who Kim Fields is.

Right? That whole ensemble is doing her no favors. It makes her look short and boxy.

Yeah -- it was a bad choice.  It almost looks like they photoshopped her into the picture.  Her look doesn't really match everyone else's.  Odd

 

 

In thinking more about this (which clearly I need more work to do) I guess that was supposed to be shade as in "I'm so young I don't know why you're famous". However if Kim's shade game is good she'll play it Jay Z style "I been rich since Benjamins had small faces".  

Porsha is young but she has no real money or talent.  I'm looking forward to this season.

 

Thats some good shade that would be completely wasted on Porsha.  Her brain would probably melt trying to figure it out

[House Of DVF - General Discussion]

Didn't she also getting a little mad when Leigh wanted to go off on her own and take some of her own pictures of her own things?

 

The girls reactions to Leigh's return versus Cat's was pretty funny too.

 

Cat should pick up on how casual Diane was about the name thing. She didn't think it was a big deal or that it would make or break Leigh's standing in the competition.

 

Yeah, it got a little Single White Female for a minute there.  

 

And of course the way Cat sold it was that Leigh was being stupid for not sticking with Cat since Cat is just sooooo knowledgeable about Paris and it would be helpful to Leigh to hang out with Cat......but then of course Cat says this isn't a competition so she isn't going to help Leigh by giving her a name to the point where she would rather fight in public than give her the name.  

 

Oh, and don't worry, Cat is the specialist snowflake ever.  Did Cat ever tell you about that time she did everything better than you?

[S01.E02: Hate Mail/S01.E03: The Say Yes Philosophy]

She is very obnoxious. I tried to find some reason to like her, but I can't. She acts like a 12 year old and makes so many excuses for everything.

me too, I get what TLC was going for.  And on paper she really should be likable, she just isn't.  Its good to know other people agree -- because I didn't think my dislike of her had anything to do with her weight, but I felt so bad not liking her.

[House Of DVF - General Discussion]

Going OT for a moment, I know people like Cat and they're some of the most exhausting people to be around. I wonder how long Cat will last in this competition.

I couldn't agree more.  I worked with a guy like this and conversations in the office would literally disband when you saw him coming around.

 

I can't imagine Cat actually winning.  I feel like they are keeping her around for drama -- she is just so unlikable