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16 hours ago, ChiMama said:
I had a feeling the 'mishandling' was all about Elizabeth drama. She said something about they went for a walk, got into a disagreement, and Jamie started pulling on the leashes (probably to walk home faster). ALL. HER. INTERPRETATION. So, in other words, take it with a grain of salt. As someone else said, Jamie and the dogs seems happy together (they seem to be afraid of Elizabeth too), which is kinda awesome for a guy who was reluctant to have them as roommates.
I read This article about harmful dog saliva, and it made me think about Elizabeth’s dog drinking out of human dishes.
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1 minute ago, humbleopinion said:
Think Greg finally found Deonna's kryptonite....
With his impeccably roomed hands and feet... freshly showered.. paying special attention to make the nether regions, making sure they are squeaky clean...Greg slips between the freshly laundered sheets still glistening from the lotion and steam.....almost like a soft porn Lifetime movie...
Deonna will be on top of the Math Man almost as fast as Amber pounces on Matt...
I wonder if he manscapes. Did they talk about that?
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2 hours ago, LuvMyShows said:
What they haven't done, or haven't shown us, is any discussion of how they get to that point from where they are now. What sort of intimacy, if any, are they having now? And if not any, then why not (especially considering that we know Iris has done sexual things, given how she described herself on the honeymoon as technically a virgin)?
This. I've been fooled these 8 weeks. I thought Iris and Keith were close and growing closer--at the wedding, they both said they were attracted to each other, and they're almost always talking and joking. And Iris is always touching Keith. She puts her hand on his leg, they sit on the couch with their legs over one another, and Iris loves to play in Keith's hair. I thought they were moving toward real intimacy.
But Iris doesn't even want to talk to Keith about sex. It's like she can't even admit to herself or other people that she has sexual thoughts. And that seems weird to me. Does she think it's wrong to imagine having sex with your husband? Even if you're not ready to have sex with your partner yet, wouldn't you think about what it's like to have sex with that person? And if you like your partner, why wouldn't you want to at least talk about sex and where your feelings are with that person? Why did Keith talking about sex make Iris so uncomfortable and eventually make her cry?
And even though they talk a lot--well, Iris talks a lot--they don't really talk about things of substance. At least not on camera. We heard Keith share things about his grandmother's health, but we don't hear the two of them having discussions about their childhoods, their jobs working with children, or their hopes and dreams for the future. Even their likes and dislikes. I know that Iris likes drawer liners and lemonade, and she doesn't like shoes inside the house or friends inside the refrigerator. But what about deeper likes and dislikes? What does she like from a romantic partner? What does he like?
In fact, none of these couples have had many impactful conversations. Ironically, Jamie and Beth have probably had the most vulnerable and meaningful conversations out of the entire bunch. Too bad their deep conversations inevitably end with yelling and cursing.
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I think someone upthread listed their mid-season predictions, but for the life of me, I cannot find that post.
Here are mine:
Matt and Amber: They win the award for Saran Wrap attempting to cling to an oiled-up Teflon skillet. Sadly, I predict divorce. I hope Amber recovers afterwards. And gets the therapy she needs. And I hope Matt's detailing business takes off. Or he gets another basketball contract. Or he becomes lovers with his handsome salt-and-pepper haired friend, either though neither is gay, but they learn to love one another and live happily ever after.
Deonna and Greg: I want them to stay together. I really do. But I just don't sense any sexual chemistry or sparks between them, especially on Deonna's end. These cute kids win two awards: 1) People I'd like to hang out with in real life and 2) You're a great guy, but she's just not that into you. I hope I'm wrong about this, but right now, I predict divorce--but they'll vow to remain friends. They won't.
Iris and Keith: She's annoying at times. He's almost too good to be true and might not be as committed as he pretends to be. But they still communicate well and seem to like each other. They win the award for Pretty People Most Likely To Stay Together Unless Someone Unpredictably and Royally F**** It All Up. This Is Reality TV After All. I predict they'll stay married.
Jamie and Big Red; They've been passionate and conflict-ridden from the start, and now their explosive chemistry is causing them to implode. They exemplify why basic Caucasian sex and sandy vaginas do not make for a good match. I predict divorce.
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On 7/20/2019 at 9:48 PM, kieyra said:
Broadly —
I’ve been around here or TWOP since about 2002. Obviously activity levels have dropped as social media and comment systems have risen instead. But I still like the culture here, the civility, and the moderation. I can’t handle the viciousness and toxicity (and politics) of many online social platforms. But I feel like my online world is shrinking with the death of “forums”, and when I venture out to places like reddit, I’m too thin-skinned for the (just as an example) casual misogyny on one hand, and bored by the silly meme shitposts on the other. Am I missing some other platform for text-based discussion that would let me broaden my conversational options somewhat, but still exist within some basically civil framework like this place?
Any suggestions welcome.
Most TV programs have Facebook discussion groups. The comments are generally civil. But comments are short--there isn't the level of in-depth conversation that there is on this Primetimer.
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1 hour ago, red12 said:
Amber & Matt: I didn't hear him communicating he absolutely would not have any kids for 8 years. I heard a person with no children who is very serious about that commitment saying "maybe 5 or 8 years". I didn't think it was set in stone and after they were married a year, he might feel more secure and up for discussion. I just don't see kids as an urgent conversation in this relationship but, Amber seems fear based in her outlook on life.
Amber is afraid of being left because her defining narrative of life seems to be "my mamma left me so, you can't". No one should be tasked with fixing that narrative except Amber. So, he glazes over in the car and goes limp while she pursues and tries to force him to engage. Then he stays out all night and ignores her which triggers her to pursue harder and her extreme reaction to her perception of another rejection. She is in trouble emotionally and I don't think she was just crying about Matt.
I also agree Matt wants to be married but, probably not a totally traditional marriage. He seems like the type of guy who might be comfortable with a woman who already has children and doesn't even need him living with her 24/7. I'm thinking something like what Gwyneth Paltrow allegedly has with her current husband. But, like you said, that wouldn't get him cast on this show.
Is this the first time they've talked about whether Matt wants kids? I can't remember his response to her bringing up their future son "Matt Gwynee V."
If Matt weren't already so distant and emotionally closed off with Amber, I don't think his "5-8 years" statement would've been as big of a deal. Because they would've had an open conversation about that feeling like a long time, and Matt reassuring her that chances are, she will still be very fertile at 32-35. But Amber already feels like Matt might not want her. So this is another nail in her coffin of insecurity.
And then he basically told her he didn't want to have kids right away and end up with a "Baby Mama" that he couldn't get rid of. Damn, that's harsh. Combine that with his cold, dead eyes--I feel bad for Amber.
But I agree with other posters that it isn't Matt's job to solve her abandonment issues. She needs therapy.
And I know the experts are not great, but why aren't the spouses able to call them with their issues, the way couples did in prior seasons? I've heard there are other therapists on staff besides the ones we see on the show.
ETA: People seem to think it's okay that Matt stayed out all evening and never called or texted Amber, even when it got late. It would've been considerate of him to send her a quick text saying the evening ran late, or something.
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1 minute ago, Gem 10 said:
Someone once told me a dogs mouth is cleaner than a humans. Could that be? People I know kiss their pets on the mouth and let them lick their faces, and both are healthy.
Possibly, but it's just the thought of your dogs tongue touching poop, dead animals, urine, random bones, and anything else on the ground then touching your face or your dishes.
Actually, if your dog just licked another dog's poop, and his tongue touches your tongue, you good get the E. coli from the other dog's poop get a bad infection.
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15 minutes ago, WahooLAH99 said:
Ok, so I would not go on this show, because these "experts" are not really trying to match people for life. They are making a show and causing drama. But I would totally got to a match maker. I am not a dater, at all. I am 41, have a good job, have a home, good education. The works. But there our no single guys for me to date. So I am pretty much out of luck! Date websites are the worst. I have tried them. So if I could go to a match maker who could find me someone, I would. Here is the thing. I am sure this show pulls in much more people who want to be on TV. So there is a big pool of people to match up. I don't think you get that kind of thing with a match maker, but I bet you get less crazy people!
Also I maybe one of those crazy people because I to would not be happy about "outside" clothes on a clean bed! Gross! It might be the only I agree with Iris on!
I totally get your matchmaking sentiment. As I stated in my post, I would love the process of completing the questionnaires and going through the interviews with the experts.
And I didn't mind Iris's picky preferences as much I got tired of her saying husband. "Okay, Husband, you don't have to use drawer liners, Husband. But I'm going to use liners in my drawers, Husband."
I wonder if she's going to call him husband when they finally have sex. "Do it to me, Husband. You're an animal, Husband. Ride me, big Husband."
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30 minutes ago, Gem 10 said:
That’s why this show doesn’t work most of the time sad to say. There’s nothing like meeting, falling in love, then getting married because your partner was your choice. You anticipate the marriage and honeymoon and sex as you know them already. These couples go in blind and don’t trust yet because they don’t know anything about the other. It makes for good t.v. tho.
I wish I could get a truly honest answer from these cast members about why they're doing this show. The answers they give on camera: trouble finding love, history of bad relationships, I don't trust myself to choose, etc. explain why they might try online dating or even use a professional matchmaking service. But to go on reality TV and agree to an arranged marriage? That's something else entirely.
If anyone on this forum can see themselves going on this show, will you explain why you would? No judgement. I'm really curious.
I know I don't have the personality for reality TV--I'm introverted, and I avoid conflict and drama like the plague. You guys would hate me. But I love, love the idea of filling out a long personality questionnaire and having interviews with therapists and advisers who want to figure out who I am and what my type might be. And then to learn that there's a person out there who fits the image I've created in my mind of the perfect guy? That's exciting.
The problem is, I don't think that's what this show does. The producers match up couples that have a few of the characteristics that the other likes. But their matches are total opposites in other areas, which they'll hope will make for great TV.
Jamie and Liz-- He's neat and picky, she's messy and quirky. It's the Odd Couple! LOL
Matt and Amber and the height differential--from what I remember, Matt specified that he prefers taller women. So let's match him with a 5'2'' woman. And Amber has abandonment issues, so let's give her a guy who lives out of his trunk and travels 6 months out of the year.
Iris and Keith--I don't have any proof of this, but young and handsome Keith probably talked about sex being something important to him that he enjoys it and likes to have sex often. Can you blame him? So why not match him with the virgin! Won't that be fun?
Greg seems emotionally, financially, and probably psychologically ready for marriage. I'm sure wanted to be matched with someone who was as committed as he was to starting their new life together right away. That is not Deonna. She has been ambivalent about this process from the start. Even in the early interviews, she said that getting married was next on her life's To Do list. She never--or hardly ever--talked about the emotional (and sexual) aspects of finding a partner and being married.
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On 7/14/2019 at 1:54 AM, Cheezwiz said:
(Did anyone else think the actor playing the non-committal boyfriend looked EXACTLY like a thinner fitter Seth Rogen? Was it just me?)
I'd never considered that, but you're right. He totally does.
On 7/14/2019 at 1:54 AM, Cheezwiz said:Can't say that I loved this film, but Aster is very good at using horror to explore grief -
I've also heard Aster say in an interview that this is a break up movie. How is condemning your boyfriend to death a break-up? Well, I guess she did literally break up with him, but it was more like conspiracy to commit murder.
And I hate to keep harping on this, but Dani was not supposed to be there! She guilted Christian into inviting her. Maybe the other guys would've met their fates anyway, I'm pretty sure Pelle invited them to the festival just to be sacrificed.
And will the families of Christian, Mark, and Chidi ever find out what happened to them? That saddens me.
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23 hours ago, Loandbehold said:
Was the first chapter 1000 pages long? And, did the second chapter start, "On the other hand ..."
I'd forgotten about that part!
1 hour ago, Holmbo said:😄
He had only just started it in the movie, but it seemed he had a good plan for it.He was almost as smart as our Chidi, but he was kind of a dick in the movie, so...
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On 7/13/2019 at 6:31 PM, atomic said:
I love how much the Veronica role still means to Kristen:
True. And it's not like she's home twiddling her thumbs with nothing to do.
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2 minutes ago, Crazy Bird Lady said:
So the newest twist (so far) is that all 4 couples will be living in adjacent apartments, so that everyone will know everyone else's business and will gossip about each other *more* than ever before.
Did the "experts" decide to do this for the benefit of the 4 couples? 🤣
That's what they'll claim --but hell no!!
It's all about creating more drama, which (of course) gets them more viewers. They don't give a damn about the participants. ☹️
This will be like the married version of Big Brother.
I wonder how they will spin it, though: camaraderie, support, blah, blah, blah. You don't have to live in the same apartment building to have that.
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12 minutes ago, PamelaMaeSnap said:
I can't help but wonder if Matt came on the show with thoughts of getting some publicity with a broadcasting career in mind. He seems like a bright guy who expresses himself well, though he hasn't done himself any favors if indeed he's outed as a cad with Amber.
I can't figure out why Matt came on this show. Maybe, like other past male contestants, he thought he was going to get matched with an Instagram model or a Beyonce look-alike.
I still think Matt is cute, but IMHO he's a few light bulbs short of being bright. Also, if he expressed himself well, he would communicate better with Amber instead of hitting her with a passive-aggressive back door exit plan like the potential basketball contract. He also wouldn't lie down in bed casually asking her what's wrong when he knew he'd just chastised her off-camera for offering to be a supportive wife while he opened his business. Why couldn't have told Amber during the meal that he doesn't want her to think he's broke?
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1 hour ago, Soup333 said:
Him saying disappointed in regards to anything is really telling. I don't think they'll make it, but any of us could have guessed that. I think we'll be more surprised if they make it.
I agree about Jamie/Doug. I think she sees him as necessary evil (he's not evil, but you know). She wants more kids, her brand is built off their marriage, some things the sponsors send them are for a man, etc.
I just hope Amber is okay. She's been hurt by boyfriends before.
I didn't watch all of Season 1. Will someone tell me briefly tell me when JamieO's feelings about Doug evolved from being repulsed him at the wedding to having children with him and laughing about having sex while on her period and taking a cleansing shower afterward?
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36 minutes ago, Kareem said:
I agree with this re Jamie from what we've seen so far. He seems to have missed the warm and fuzzy bus and sometimes responds to her accordingly.
I think we've seen couples who believe they're in this for the long haul, and who try to make it work and those who repeat the 'stranger' word 75,000 times with one bag packed. Amber appears to be in the first group so I can almost understand her abandonment speech. Almost.2 hours ago, configdotsys said:I was raising my eyebrows to the point that I thought they'd jump off my face and onto the ceiling when she was telling a guy she met a few days ago that she would feel abandoned if he left or whatever it was that she said. Give me a break. Comparing a relationship that's a couple of days old with her relationship with her mother? After a few days she's so dependent on this guy that she'd be a basket case if he left? Bleh. I am not wild about Matt but would not blame him if he walked away from this. It's too heavy right now. She is like AJ but without the hyper. All in on day one to the point of smothering. AJ got a desperate fool that would pay any price to have a husband but Matt seems to not be in that camp.
It seems like you're damned if you do, damned if you don't on this show. If you're eager to get to know the stranger you impulsively married and try to make things work, you get called thirsty and desperate (Amber) or disingenuous (Jamie and Liz). If you're understandably hesitant and distant with the stranger that you impulsively married, you're called a cold, frigid, distant, selfish asshole who's probably hiding something (Deonna and Matt. And sometimes Keith. Jepthe and Jasmine in prior seasons).
BTW, I'm not excusing myself from my own critique-- I've used some of these same descriptions for the spouses.
I'd say Iris probably gets criticized the least, but she still gets called melodramatic, extra, hyper, or even phony. (Again, I'm including myself in this). At least she stopped calling herself The Virgin.
I don't think there's any right way to organically develop a healthy marital relationship when you're in a televised arranged marriage, but society (reality TV society) is telling you that you're still supposed to have all of the butterflies and chemistry that you would if you were in a love marriage with someone you met in college and dated for 3 years.
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1 hour ago, BlackberryJam said:
I'm team Rafa, I just think Roger is going to knuckle down.
Team Roger. I'm rooting for the over 35-ers to win it all.
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24 minutes ago, CruiseDiva said:
Indiana husband and wife doctors with a blended family of six children wanting a 6-bedroom house near her child-caregiver parents. They seemed like a very nice couple, but I wondered if his sons from a previous marriage would even be spending a lot of time with them in that huge house. The husband said the boys were fine with sharing a room.
They did select the best (and with the playset in the yard, the most obvious) house. It was a very pleasant HH episode to watch.
I tried to nitpick that couple just because that's what I do when I watch House Hunters. But I agree with you. I couldn't find anything really wrong with them. They were a pleasant couple whose 'demands' weren't unreasonable. When it came to renovations, they were quick to label things like wall paper or worn carpet as cosmetic problems, not deal breakers.
And even though the houses they looked at were large and rather expensive, based on their dual-income as ENT doctors, they actually could have afforded a much grander home I'm glad they didn't however. Their choice made them appear somewhat fiscally responsible. And who knows how much they're paying their former spouses for alimony and/or child support?
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Okay, this is a strange one, so don't laugh.
I have always found Billy Crystal sexy. In When Harry Met Sally, when he apologizes to Sally after their wagon wheel argument, the way he hugs her is incredibly sensual and tender.
And any man who makes me laugh gets bonus points. So yeah, he can get it.
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10 minutes ago, sacrebleu said:
I was sorry Steffi couldn't knock Court down a peg
I'm trying to think of anything bad that was said about her during her career. I've got nothing.
Except that she probably wouldn't have won as many Grand Slams as she did if Monica Seles hadn't gotten stabbed. Which wasn't Steffi's fault, of course.
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A: The last ritual of the film is what happens every 90 years. The rest is business as usual. Although it is suggested that there are more days of celebration to come. The movie doesn't span 9 days.
Damn. What's left? Hard to top that last ritual.
ETA: But Swedish guy (Pelle?) said both of his parents died in a fire. I'm assuming it was some kind of ritualistic sacrificial fire, so I don't know how that fits in with the time line. Maybe the extended cut will explain.
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1 hour ago, topanga said:
Watching Wimbledon when I can at work. Who's the glammed-up woman doing commentary?
I missed her name and don't recognize her. But she said she's played against Serena in the past.
13 minutes ago, BitterApple said:Congrats to Serena, congrats to Simona. If both ladies bring their A-game and Simona keeps her head together, this should be one heck of a final.
On a side note, does anyone else wish Wimbledon would do away with the practice of requiring both players to walk off the court together? The winner can't even take a few moments to savor their victory because their opponent is standing impatiently, in a hurry to exit.
Yes. It should be a good final. Both women are intense.
I know that Wimbledon does change things. The players used to have to curtsy in front of the chair umpire after the match, but they did away with that.
But yeah, the winner must want to stay on the court longer to sign balls, wave at fans, etc. And the loser just wants to go to the locker room to take a shower, cry, scream, meditate--anything to out of the spotlight for a few minutes before that dreaded press conference.
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21 minutes ago, Ohwell said:
Keith is so chill that I get nothing from him. He's nice but there's no "there" there. However, I can certainly understand him being so chill so he won't risk coming across negatively on camera. ...
Matt said all the right words about Amber and his marriage, just like he was reading the words from a teleprompter.
Matt doesn't seem all that bright to me. Maybe the dumb jock stereotype applies to him. But he probably went to college for at least one year, right?
But to respond to your post, I think neither Keith nor Matt is the best conversationalist in the bunch. I honestly wonder what they would be like as a couple. Would they ever talk to one another?
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2 hours ago, Adeejay said:
Something about Matt doesn't sit right with me. I don't believe his intentions for doing this show was to find a spouse.
2 hours ago, watchingtvaddict said:I feel like he is giving himself an easy out with Amber. He says "If my new venture doesn't do that great, I might be gone for 6-10 months". She says it's a deal breaker and now it isn't his fault the marriage failed. And even if his new venture isn't a complete failure he can find some excuse to go overseas to get away from his new bride
I agree with you both. I don’t think Matt is into Amber, and when he talked about maybe getting another basketball contact overseas, he might be setting up his reason for getting out of the marriage at the end of the eight weeks.
2 hours ago, Gem 10 said:Yeah, get over yourself. Everything is about her. What about him? I can just see if they finally have sex. She’ll be calling all the shots, or maybe give him an instruction book.
I don’t ever see Deonna doing anything to make Greg feel loved or appreciated.
Have the couples talked about Love Languages yet? I think they’ve done this in prior seasons. I think learning how your spouse needs to be shown love (through gifts, words of affirmation, etc) goes a long way to helping couples communicate and eloping them be kind to their spouses.
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S09.E09: One Month Down, Never to Go
in Married At First Sight
I wasn’t bored, but not much happened in terms of the couples learning more about each other or growing closer.
Other than Jamie and Liz having their weekly argument and reminding us how toxic they are together.
Iris didn’t say anything like that in the full episode. But if she feels that way, then she and Keith need to talk about it.