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Huh? Someone said they concluded that Sutton's comment about her money being better was a jab at Dorit's money problems and her pretend wealth, and not an elitist comment about who has the most money. I replied maybe so, but Sutton should have been more clear if that's what she meant. In fact, a good deal of the discussion on these boards is people trying to parse out what Sutton meant when she said her money is better. That comment may be clear to you, but not to me.

Maybe. But she should have said so more directly instead of leaving it up to us to try to figure out what she meant, and the confessional would have been a good opportunity to do so. I think Sutton's intentions with that comment are very much open to interpretation, and although I have been a big Sutton fan, I took her comment as elitist, and it made me wonder if Sutton is a snob. As to whether Dorit deserved to be laid flat for being horrible to Sutton all these years, yes she does. I have no problem with that.

I agree with this, and I think that's why this comment drew a shocked silence from all the housewives at the table. Housewives can brutalize each other all they want, but the viewers are off limit. I don't think Sutton intended to say something that might be construed as insulting to viewers, but she did, and she didn't walk it back in the confessional when she had the chance. Sutton may be richer than doctors, teachers and EMTs, but she is not not as productive, and she may have more money, but her money is not better.

Basically Sutton is saying to Dorit what Kelly Ben Simone said to Bethenny: "I'm up here and you're down here."

Most people seem to feel that Sutton's money comment was appalling, but she did double down on it in her talking head. The thing is, I'm not sure what point she is trying to make with her comment. She seemed to be saying "how dare you be mean to me and come after me as if you are my equal, peasant" ... like there's a housewife caste system. I would be interested if someone thinks there is a different point she is trying to make with that comment.

They're all snobby. But Dorit didn't say she needs a proper flute for her champagne, white Sutton would probably drink her champagne out of a Dixie cup. So it's not the same thing, in my opinion.

She doubled down on it in her confessional, so I guess that's who she is. I also found her put down of Dorit as someone who would prefer orange caviar pretty snobbish and tacky.

1. I think most people would have gone outside and mingled rather than stayed indoors and stewed. But maybe Sutton is shy. 2. No she wasn't damn near the victim of a robbery. (But the way Sutton acted you would have thought she was.) Dorit left herself open to this because she should have known that given the state of their relationship Sutton "Sisterhood" Stracke was not going to play along with the "joke". 3. It was really Garcelle's question about the alcohol (somehow Garcelle skates away as she always does). Still, Dorit was wrong piping in. I thought Sutton overreacted (as she is prone to do) calling Dorit the B-word, but Dorit was probably more at fault. However, I think Sutton was not at that party to have a good time, and Dorit gave her the ammunition she needed to create lots of drama and then hightail it out of there.

Sorry about the repeated posts above. I don't post very often, and I don't seem to have the knack yet.

Because Dorit has ZERO humor.

Because Dorit has ZERO humor.

Because Dorit has ZERO humor. Yes, Dorit does not know how to pull off a joke. And there were two instances in this show where Sutton "Sisterhood" Stracke could have been gracious and pretend what Dorit did was funny but instead chose to make Dorit look like a fool. Sutton understands group dynamics a lot better than Dorit, and she can be a real mean girl when she wants.

I thought this seemed an obvious case of production giving them different times to arrive! I agree. The whole sequencing seemed weird. Are we really to believe that Sutton, who can't stand Dorit, would arrive so much earlier than the other housewives? And did no other guest show up in that 35 minute window? And if other guests did show up they didn't wait in the foyer ... so what did they do? And isn't it weird that the housewives who always coordinate everything and usually travel in packs didn't do so this time? All the above could hypothetically happen, but it seems production driven. I'm guessing they told Sutton to come early.

She traipsed into her house. Nobody is arguing that Dorit shouldn't have been a better more thoughtful host, and in that way Dorit played right into Sutton's predisposition to be unhappy and judgmental. They are both wrong I think.

They didn't show who was there and Sutton didn't go out to see. Sutton had a choice to either try to have a good time or not.

I thought both Dorit and Sutton were pretty obnoxious to each other this episode. Others have made the case for Dorit, here is a case for Sutton: 1. She told her makeup artist she didn't want to go to the party (so much for sisterhood). Okay, we all go to parties we don't want to, and most of us try to have a good time anyway. 2. Rather than joining the party which you could see was going on out back, she chose to wait in the foyer for 35 minutes waiting for Dorit, performatively reading magazines and on her phone, and being rude and judgmental about her host. Then when Kyle arrived she couldn't wait to tell her how rude Dorit was. It was Sutton's one true moment of happiness this episode. 3. I don't think we saw how Dorit got the handbag, but I think we can assume that Dorit was making an awkward joke about how she was going to keep it. That's what people do sometimes as a compliment about how I wish it was mine. Instead, Sutton acted like she was the victim of a robbery, making the whole situation awkward. 4. Sutton made a crack about not going on the water slide, which I (rightly or wrongly) took as her way of saying I don't belong here. 5. Finally, Sutton't reaction to Dorit's lame, ill advised cracki. -- which everyone, even Garcelle, knew was a joke. Storming out in tears was so over the top that it brought me back to my first point -- that is, Sutton didn't want to be there n the first place and this was her opportunity to leave.

Who would do that? You could see the party going on outside. Go outside and greet your host later ... unless, of course, this was just a performative stunt to show how rude the host is.

True, Boz sometimes doesn't have all the context of the situations she inserts herself into. But she just felt intuitively that you don't go to someone's house and congregate in the lobby talking crap and not participating in the party as guests.

I think Boz was surprised when Kyle interpreted her comment about Kyle seeming distant as grounds for an argument rather than a launching point for something more constructive. That tells me that Boz doesn't really understand how these housewives shows work.

On tonight's episode ... Dorit makes a lame, awkward, ill-considered joke about Sutton drinking, and Sutton storms off in tears. To me, this is manufactured drama.

I like Boz quite a bit. True, her storylines are not that compelling. But I think her commentary is interesting.

Thank God we have come a long way in understanding depression in the period since Sutton's father killed himself.

Sutton's mother had no idea Sutton needed her affirmation, but Sutton DID need her mother's affirmation. So it was up to Sutton to initiate the conversation. I have no idea why it took her 20 years to do so.

Sutton's mother is an opinionated, blunt, ornery old woman who is difficult to please and slow to give complements. She also raised Sutton, sent her to college, enabled her to pursue a career in dance and probably helped make her tough and independent. The mother is not likable, but I wouldn't call her an asshole based solely on what we have heard and seen.

Would you insert yourself in the middle of a difficult family dynamic, and if a friend offered to do so would you acquiesce? For me, that's a big hell no.