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Some more reviews (I've pulled out some nice bits about Felicity)...
‘Arrow’ Recap: ‘The Secret Origin of Felicity Smoak’
http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2014/11/06/arrow-recap-the-secret-origin-of-felicity-smoak/
‘Arrow’: Hacker or Hero?
http://screenrant.com/arrow-season-3-episode-5-reviews-felicity-goth-origin/
Arrow Season 3 Episode 5 Review – ‘The Secret Origin of Felicity Smoak’
Arrow Review: “The Secret Origin of Felicity Smoak”
http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2014/11/arrow-review-the-secret-origin-of-felicity-smoak.html
ARROW Recap Season 3 Episode 5 The Secret Origin of Felicity Smoak
http://www.seat42f.com/arrow-recap-season-3-episode-5-the-secret-origin-of-felicity-smoak.html
Arrow S03 E05 recap: Emily Bett Rickards shines as we learn more about Felicity’s past
Too much? To quote Steve Rogers, "I can do this all day." (Not really.)
I love the reviewers are seeing more than a distraction from Oliver and Laurel or a behind the desk IT girl. YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Yet more Castle parallels, it seems. I made a criticism about that show several years ago now, that things seemed to happen, and characters seemed to have reactions and revelations that were there purely for the effect they had on the audience. That something like a stunned moment of realisation would be shown, and then the next week everything would be back to normal. It was the writers' way of throwing the 'shippers a bone while never having to actually offer up anything real.
Sounds like the Arrow writers might have cottoned on to this amazing, fresh, creative technique. They can always backtrack unless they've actually had the characters spell things out and act on what they've said. And even then, they can backtrack with a good old, 'I can't be with you because reasons' cop out. Oliver can look like he is going to change his mind as much as they want, as long as he doesn't actually say he's changed it.
I can't lie. I'm seeing the slow wooing of viewers to the Ray and Felicity side. So they can throw Olicity fans a few bones while they wait and see what plays out as Ray and Felicity "date."
I don't think they'll commit to Olicity or Raylicity anytime soon. They are going to drag it out as long as they can. Assuming they don't strop dropping viewers like flies, I imagine Olicity moments will be few and far between. Which I think will create the problem of the fans actually being split. Should Ray become a more viable love interest, the fracture of TA will get worse. Unless Oliver gets a LI. Then you have a greater problem.
I don't see how they write themselves out of it.
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I finally figured out one of the reasons I dislike Ray. He is the guy who walks into a room talking. He doesn't take stock of what is happening in the room. He barges in like what he says is the most important thing. I used to work for a woman like this. She was a fake Southern belle. She might have been from the South but her bitch streak was anything but southern charm and her narcissism was choke-inducing. She entered a room speaking because whatever she had to say was more important in her mind than anything anyone else had to say. Even in meetings she'd listen to others because she had to corporate manners dictated it.
The social ineptness did work for Barry because he was geeky and nerdy, but endearing. Ray is as far as I can tell supposed to be true LI potential. He is trying for 007 but it isn't coming out like that. He isn't charismatic enough nor suave enough for a female to ignore his social faux pas. He isn't nerdy enough for it to be a quirk. He needs a Booth belt buckle thing or something to give him a unique attribute. The emphasis seems to be on well-dressed successful billionaire.
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Ausiello's brain must have exploded. Steve asked the question but Brian got the reply.
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@apinknightmare and @AnalyzeandCritique, I agree with both your posts. It's the nature of Arrow to nail some things and completely miss others. I just realized in what points it could have been so much better once they pointed them out, and I was kinda "sad" reading some of those reviews, because I wanted this episode to have the best recognition possible lol. I was just offering different points of view :)
Definitely not arguing with you. There is always room for improvement.
I thought last night's episode was strong. There wasn't clear OOC behavior. Laurel is consistent in not telling her father. I was waiting for her to tell him in the middle of a city-wide crisis so it would be about her. Oh wait! OOC moment. Only slightly kidding.
I thought Felicity's story was on point. I think she dressed goth to be the opposite of her mother who clearly there is a divide between. Dark hair, dark lipstick, piercings, etc. I imagine Felicity's hair isn't naturally that dark. She's probably darker than a blonde and lighter than her MIT color.
She went through something tragic and made a life choice. She changed her appearance as a result. She is a bit closer to her mother in her hair color. She could have gone red but the blonde I think is an ode to her mother's strength.
I think it reflects how she ended up at QC in the IT department. She probably needed time to mourn and a corporate IT job wasn't hacking. It didn't carry the potential for tragedy. Oliver's presence brought out the hacktivist in her. This time though with a clear goal of good and not just playing and wreaking havoc.
I think it was a great origins story.
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So, I've been reading some reviews, and most of them are saying the episode was kind of a missed opportunity, in terms of showing what's really behind Felicity's transformation, and weak WRT the plot. This are actually points I agree with. If I put my All-things-Felicity/Mama Smoak/Team Arrow/Olicity-high aside, this wasn't objectively speaking the best episode of the series, but I (and I think most of you would agree) loved it anyway because of those character moments that were missing since what felt like forever.
However, it's always interesting reading different opinions, so here are some links for who's interested:
http://www.avclub.com/tvclub/arrow-secret-origin-felicity-smoak-211490
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/11/06/arrow-the-secret-origin-of-felicity-smoak-review
I don't have time to read the reviews (work beckons). To your point isn't Arrow a series of missed opportunities whether in the storytelling or the editing? One consistency with Arrow is their mediocrity. Arrow isn't an amazing show. It is a decent to good show with strength in casting and stunts. It is good enough for entertainment purposes but it isn't trailblazing TV. This episode had far less WTF moments and need to hand wave or fill in missing points. Honestly it was a stronger episode writing wise. They even managed to make it appear as though Laurel's barking orders has a purpose and isn't just bad acting.
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She has a big, beautiful brain that he intends to utilize for reasons that may or may not be nefarious. But I do wish he'd stop conveniently being around for her emotional moments, because honey, that never looks good in front of your boss, even if he is a potential baddie and definite creep/stalker.
I hate the alternative love interest for Felicity sees her the exact opposite of how Oliver sees her. Oliver sees a woman strong enough to go up against Slade. Ray sees someone who needs a drink and probably a hug.
If they played Felicity running out all the time for TA tasks, it could be construed as she's a quirky nerd. I found all the interactions with Ray a bit off. Why would Felicity sit in her office to be found by Ray? I'd be hiding in a bathroom. No one at work would ever see me cry.
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His only narrative usefulness here was giving the watch to Mama Smoak. In his other scenes, he really was just... there.
Though I suppose I should be paying attention to the technobabble, except I can never ever pay attention to what he's saying for fear I'll be put to sleep.
I agree. I am not seeing alternate love interest. He actually steam rolls her. He walks in on her crying and rather than ask if she is ok, he's all we need a drink to commiserate the terrorism. Wouldn't a normal person ask "is Mom ok?" seeing as there was a terrorism attack going on and mom wasn't with her? Sure it is cyber, but transformers were popping off all over the city. I'm not seeing the opposite of Oliver in Ray is aware of Felicity and not focused on the crusade. Ray was so concerned with his alternative energy, he blew into Felicity's apartment first thing in the AM unannounced.
I missed the final few minutes of the show, but I think as long as Felicity and Oliver are on the same TV show they aren't ever going to bring in viable alternatives.
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Adored this episode. If I was ever to introduce someone to Arrow I would use this episode.
However, I am not sure what they want me to see in Ray. I watched hoping for a good reason for him to be at Felicity's apartment. I could only come up with he doesn't sleep because of drugs and therefore makes bad decisions. Like not recognizing he shouldn't be at an employee's house so early in the morning. Was it a weekday? Regardless of if he could have just waited until she arrived at work or it was a weekend; call first.
BR is too mature looking to be pulling off the socially awkward which might have made his appearance at her apartment a comedic moment. Instead it was a bit more cringe-worthy. Also Felicity disappears to her office to cry? He just shows up?
How many times are these writers going to use the word "stalker?" At least it worked for Mama Smoak as she is supposed to be a bit rough around the edges.
That is all. Almost everything else was sheer perfection. Apparently Laurel barking orders is a thing and not just Cassidy's acting choice? Either that or they wrote it in to turn down the criticism.
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Ray is a billionaire who runs multiple companies. Why would he personally be dropping off papers at Felicity's home if he's not stalking her. Come to think of it, why would there be any papers to be dropped off? She works in tech so anything she needs can be e-mailed. If it's to do with HR, that can wait till she's in the office the next time.
I worry that they are too inspired by 50 Shades.
They should pull a Devil Wears Prada and send the assistant.
No executive is bothered to do the mundane tasks themselves. I say this as an EA with ten years experience. They can't use a copier themselves let alone run their own errands. The reasoning will need to be damn good.
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It was in his interview with the Wall Street Journal (it's on his Facebook page).
This was a page or two back. I think it is more spec as to why but SA clearly has a diminished role for a bit. I'm sure he will make up for it in later eps. However it will be three or four arrow lite episodes this season? It is part of what promoted my Mini novel in the Laurel thread.
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Laurel Lance is quite the conundrum (a confusing and difficult problem or question) for which I don't think there is a clear answer.
What we see on the screen would tell us there is no love for the character. She's not given the care and consideration other characters are to further her development nor endear herself to the audience. Behind the scenes and through interviews, we would think Arrow is the love letter to Laurel they intended the episode "Sara" to be to Lotz. What is the audience supposed to take from this puzzling situation.
I think the only real answer is TPTB are in love with BC. They are holding on tightly to their original vision for BC which was Laurel Lance and her journey to becoming a partner to Arrow. If TPTB were in love as much with GA they'd be dropping Laurel/BC like it's hot. If their priority was the GA story, they'd be concentrating so hard on making Oliver and GA work we'd have a completely different show. If I had to guess I'd say they are 70% invested in the BC story and 30% in the GA story.
On Arrow Laurel and her potential version of BC aren't working. Laurel hasn't worked in any portion of the story they've attempted to work her into.
- In S1 we had the crappiest of love stories/triangles to suffer through. I couldn't cheer for Laurel as a LI for either Tommy or Oliver. Tommy deserved better than a wishy-washy girlfriend. Oliver had distanced himself and it was only then Laurel wanted anything to do with him. Oliver wasn't a viable choice because besides the sister-swapping we didn't need brother-bartering. I couldn't cheer on Oliver and Laurel because it hurt Tommy who clearly adored her. As a lawyer she wasn't believable. Her selfishness was more subtle than S2, but it was there.
- In S2 we didn't suffer through the love story because it was shut down pretty much in E1. However, everything else was ramped up. Her selfishness skyrocketed. Her suckage as a lawyer became immeasurable. Her characterization flopped back and forth so the only reasonable explanation was bipolar disorder. Sara was introduced as a conduit to Laurel's story. Although clearly the stronger BC with a better back story, Sara wasn't anything more than a device which meant we had to further Laurel's story. Cue Lance family dinners and an uptick of selfish behavior.
Arrow is less about Oliver Queen and more about Laurel Lance. They are shoehorning Laurel into Oliver's life when his life would be better without her. The show would be better without her. Is this because Cassidy is earning too much money? I'd say it is a rather large gamble to increase her presence in a show where she is clearly not welcome by most fans. So the show gets their money out of her. What happens if they lose too many viewers? They are almost a lock for syndication, but the CW isn't guaranteed. Who picks up Arrow if the CW goes under? Would a cable network or streaming service be willing to pay to keep Arrow alive? I'd bet a month's paycheck if S3 continues on its current course there wouldn't be any buyers.
My issues with the show have less to do with Cassidy than the writing. While I don't think she was the right actress for the Laurel Lance they envisioned, they could have played to her strengths and chosen a narrative which would have been far less awkward. Cassidy held her own in Harper's Island. She played a spoiled daddy's girl who is madly in love with her childhood sweetheart. She
dies at his hand after he kills most of her family and wedding party.
It wasn't Emmy winning, but it had more moments in the positive column than negative. She can act when the script is leaning towards the acting chops she has. Cassidy doesn't do warm and empathetic well which Arrow's Laurel needs.
Why the writers couldn't adapt to Cassidy's strength after S1 when they realized Laurel wasn't working is beyond me. The tenacity with which they cling to Laurel Lance as BC and making it happen would be admirable if it wasn't such a train wreck. They can't persevere through this mess.
If Oliver is really going missing for a couple of episodes,
I'm anticipating more Laurel and BC trajecotry. It would be a huge mistake IMO. There is a good chance they might not recover because Laurel isn't on course to be welcome in working with TA. Sara was because she'd been welcomed by Diggle and Felicity. We might not have seen her receive her TA membership card, but nothing showed us she wasn't wanted.
i'm rambling and avoiding first NaNoWriMo day. Mostly because I have a character in mind which will be as hard to write as Laurel. She needs to be sympathetic, but she's a mess. How I get her from word 1 to word 50k is my conundrum. I'm analyzing Laurel to avoid the Laurel mistakes. So thanks for that Arrow.
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Bitter: S3 might have one moment worth rewatching and it may the Origins of Felicity Smoak. At this point it looks vintage Arrow. I'm in for one episode because they can choke on the rest of the story they are shoveling.
Maybe this doesn't belong in the bitter thread because those photos of EBR and Mama Smoak put the first smile on my face due to something Arrow related since S3E1. BUT I'm bitter cease usually Felicity and TA always make me smile.
So this doesn't get moved. All the other Arrow shit we've endured has sucked thus far and I'm extremely bitter about it!
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With a few photos they have convinced me I need to watch. I'm in.
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The focus on Laurel also is pulling attention away from Oliver - and it's his show. Or maybe that how it feels to me.
If I saw that Oliver was doing things differently as a direct result of Sara's death, it would feel different, I think. But he's in cop-mode now, not necessarily Arrow mode. He's reacting to the latest clue that so happened to have been in his possession for a week or so without him checking it out. Felicity being out of town isn't helping track things down either. It just seems like the murder mystery is truly about Laurel while Oliver & Co. are just flailing.
The show should never have been about Black Canary to the detriment of Green Arrow/Oliver Queen. But this is not unlike what happened last season when more & more time was spent on Sara's journey. Which all seems like a huge waste in retrospect.
Why is this show so hellbent on Black Canary stuff anyway?
Because they will never get a green light on a BC show so they play with her on Arrow. If they truly wanted to do Arrow, the show wouldn't have the problems it does. 2B and 3A to this point is a free fall because of the BC expectations.
Sara and Laurel have created narrative problems. Had Laurel never been written in for S1 and a potential BC (Sara?) showed up in S2 the narrative would have been stronger and perhaps the character integrated organically.
Sara and Laurel both have horrible characterizations due to sister-swapping and their lack of familial bond on the show. Laurel could have cared less about her sister except for when she was angry at Oliver for her death and then when she realized Oliver and Sara were bumping uglies again. Had Laurel never existed and Sara showed up, the show would have been ten times better.
Instead we are stuck with this pathetic attempt at entertainment because the writers have a boner for BC and are using Arrow as a vessel to being her to life.
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I have to rec Anthfan on A03. Her stories are long but her tropes standalones are killer.
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I don't know if it's all CW shows but I've seen him live tweet Arrow and Supernatural.
If you're in the mood for fun, try and find Shatner, Orlando Bloom and Misha Collins live tweeting the S9 episode that Misha directed.
OMG I must be living under a rock. Bloom tweets? I remember during the height of the LOTR days the Hobbits mocking him for not being able to email.
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Is this Ruled By Cats Anonymous? If so, may I join? My name is Starfish35, and I am owned by three cats. :)
Where do I sign up for my membership? I have three and just added a puppy to the mix.
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He does respond to criticism in a rather dramatic way. Those of you who read Jennifer Cruise's commentary on Olicity and her reviews on Arrow season 2A would know that she was extremely fond of the show and she highlighted aspects from writing and story telling perspective because she is writer. Then came 2x13 and she was flabbergasted with the Sara/Oliver hook up as according to her, it came out of nowhere. Then she was even more perturbed with the way Oliver and Felicity behaved in 2x14 and I think 2x15 was the last episode she saw because she did not want to see and write about a TV show where she has very few positives to talk about and that was that. Her problem was with story telling and never with either Stephen or any other actor.
Someone posted that on Stephen's page and then he responded with a comment that was something along the line he is gonna listen to someone who has no idea how it all works or something to that effect and tone was rather abrupt. I guess he really does not appreciate criticism through social media.
So in other words if you want to keep him happy, smile and agree with him and never offer an opinion which differs from his.
As a writer, you don't ever want to hear something negative about your work. As a photographer, you don't want to hear about what would improve your image. As a perfectionist, you don't want to hear about your shortcomings because it reinforces what is in your head. I'm all three. My creative process is torture. I get an idea and it consumes me. A lot of energy is expelled and at the end there is relief and accomplishment. Of course since it is my "baby" I am protective.
However, if I don't ever listen to criticism I won't grow. If I don't see room for improvement, I remain on a plateau.
Side note: It is a bit interesting fans offered the same criticism and made note of the same writing weakness the actors themselves voiced. I'm not sure why it is ok for the actors but not the fans or critics.
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Small observation. He made the comparison to NSYNC. Justin wouldn't be where he is now if it weren't for his NSYNC days. He had the talent but needed the exposure. I doubt without NSYNC's success he would be where he is now.
If you want to be famous you can't just take the good and ignore the negative. Otherwise you end up increasing the role of a polarizing character.
I've seen a lot of people say they are impressed with his personality and his interacting with the fans. I believe it helped keep Arrow endeared to a lot of fans during the tumultuous episodes. He might want to remember it.
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It wouldn't be like having Ken without Barbie. I think both should stand on their own. If they used Arrow to launch a BC show, it might have worked since Felicity has assumed the romantic interest role on Arrow. However, they tied both hands begin their back as Sara could have carried a BC hour on her own. Laurel to this point can't and needs Arrow. She has the platform to launch from but lacks the oomph to leave the ground.Question. Why does Arrow even need a Black Canary? Forget who is behind the mask for a minute. The show is supposed to be about Oliver Queen and his journey to becoming a hero, the Green Arrow. I know the Canary is connected to Green Arrow in the comics, and that she and Oliver have an on again, off again relationship, in the comics. But this isn't the comics. And more importantly, it is Oliver's show. I'm not saying he needs to be on screen every second of every episode, or even that the whole world needs to revolve around him. I like to see stories with Diggle and Felicity and Quentin and Thea and Roy and Malcolm. But as much as I liked Sara I though her Canary story overrode a great deal of Oliver's last season, made worse by the fact we were overwhelmed with her in both the present and the past in the flashbacks while criminally underusing Moira and screwing with Slade's story.
To remain in topic. I'm bitter we won't see a BC show with Sara and Nyssa and their adventures. Sara could have benefited from not being attached to Oliver and her family's drama. She was a good character overwhelmed by her sister's destiny.
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What I find sad and kinda funny, is that if you take away KC's comments no one whould be doubting that Oliver and Felicity were the main romance of the show. Sure, one EP said never say never, but that is the standard response. EVERYONE ELSE is prompting Oliver and Felicity. I'm not just talking big bold statements like SA or the EPs at SDCC, I'm talking Grant Gustin and David Ramsey talking casually about Felicity and Oliver being in love. About David Ramsey talking about how Felicity is to Oliver what Lyla is to Diggle. Even to casual viewers who don't stalk online forums, the narrative presented in The Calm was big flashing lights Oliver and Felicity are endgame (my mother, the casual viewer, couldn't get over the dinner scene and does not believe they could ever go back to Laurel - She also thought Thea should take over as the Black Canary with no prompting from me).
I do not believe that KC knows more than SA. I think she is hoping she can talk it into life, but she can't. Also, you do not set up the most popular romantic pairing like that unless you are planning to follow thru . These are the people that storm twitter and messgeboards posting comments and trying to generate buzz. Its one thing to tease the fandom its another thing entirely to give them what they want and then rip it away - they live in a post-HIMYM world. I'm sure they took notes.
As for the introduction of Ray and taking Felicity away from Oliver/Team Arrow, I hate it but it needs to be done. Felicity does need to be fleshed out and she does need another option. I like the depth it could add to Felicity as a character and Oliver/Felicity as a couple.
I hate that they killed Sara. I will rage about it forever, but I do think its them holding tight to what they can from their original plan. Its the CW, you can get away with an unpopular character if you put a her in fishnets and punch a few guys - that's a definition of bad ass for a lot of general viewers (sadly). The main romance though? You can't mess with that on the CW. Olicity just over took Klaroline on twitter. That's massive.
Yes anything could happen. Never say Never. But other then KC and our own worst case senarios, there isn't anything to support a Oliver and Laurel romantic reunion. And if that changes? Well, I wouldn't care because I would be out.
Actually there is one reason. It's been stated many times over the past few weeks as to why Sara had to die. "because comics!"
I don't pay much attention to what KC says. Honestly her interviews never line up with what is actually happening on screen. Next she'll tell us Laurel is going to suggest Oliver wear a purple suit. Her fans will latch on and the rest of us will roll our eyes while the internet explodes.
Strictly from a storytelling standpoint (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong as I've only seen the episodes once)
At the end of S2 Oliver became a single man. Laurel finds out his secret which drops many barriers between them. Suddenly she knows more about him although it still isn't enough to know him better than anyone else. Yet she was given multiple lines of dialogue to reinforce she knows him better than anyone else. Which these writers have proven is how they convey their message. Hit us with ridiculous dialogue which contradicts what we see on our screen.
Oliver professes his love for Felicity, except he doesn't. Interviews tell us "they've never been able to lie to each other BUT we'll explore that it means in S3." Translation: we know the audience is responding to them since they've been telling us since S1E3. We'll keep this card up our sleeve.
S3 begins and Sara dies a cruel and heartless death. AND OMG! Oliver and Felicity kiss but it is really a good-bye kiss (and not the "familiar 100th kiss" which was speculated around here). Olicity was paraded around and kept the press interested. They lead with and then buried us with Olicity... and a kiss... and date... and a fern. The death of Sara wasn't publicized in any way. Even though most shows use the potential for death as a hook to drag in and keep an audience (Ie Chicago Fire weekly). Why wasn't the death of a character teased? Because from a marketing standpoint it was a shot to the foot. After the S2 death watch for Sara, giving the audience better odds it would be Sara probably would have kept more than a few eyeballs away.
Ray trots into town as the "charming" billionaire which is the polar opposite to Oliver. Since Oliver is doing his damn best to keep Felicity but not-so-much, let's bring his personality opposite and see how Felicity reacts. Oh look! They have "chemistry." Same was said of Barry and Felicity when they needed to slow the Olicity train down last year. Unless I'm remembering my timeline wrong, Sara and Oliver had an "adult" conversation which more than a few thought put to rest Oliver's penis and a Lance vagina uniting when she stayed in the mansion. Barry showed up and the chemistry wasn't as off the charts as they claimed it to be. Suddenly Oliver and Sara are using the Arrow Cave as their own personal sex den. Completely out of the blue for the characters, actors, and audience. Most are still scratching their heads.
Sara is dead so there will be no more sister-swapping. Therefore Laurel can safely cozy up to Oliver without fear he'll cheat with her sister. In other words if Oliver is destined to be with a Lance because GA & BC 4eva! By elimination Laurel is left. It cures most of the sister-swapping complaints and fulfills the "because comics!"
Felicity won't wait to die with Oliver. Which could have been motivation enough to get a life outside TA. Oliver doesn't need a romantic rival. I don't buy Oliver needs some competition to realize the depth of his feelings anymore than Felicity isn't all in with Oliver and therefore would consider a relationship with Ray. Felicity has proven she's patient with Oliver. I think her feelings are real enough (despite her lack of returning his ILYs) and also deep enough she won't wilt in the darkness with Oliver but she isn't going to become someone she isn't. Felicity is loyal if nothing else. I don't see it being part of her character to love a man, but date another.
Laurel didn't have to become BC. And she definitely did not have to become BC in Season 3. The character isn't working; revenge and a mask won't fix it. Sara could have remained BC for another season or two. Sara could have trained Laurel and we could have watched them bond so Laurel's grief at Sara's death would have been believable instead of cringe-inducing. However "because comics!" Laurel must be BC and we rushed it to get it done (and try and fix a character there is really no hope for).
I don't read the comics. I only know GA&BC 4eva from the internet. If I had watched the show and not visited forums and gotten an education, I might have believed we'd never see Lauriver again. However, I probably would have wondered how the show could kill the BC and why I'm expected to believe Laurel could fill her boots.
The backlash of completely ending Olicity might destroy the show faster, but killing Sara is giving the show a beating.
A few pages ago, I broke down the issue with Laurel and laid the blame equally at the feet of KC, the writers/EPs, and the director. If they don't make Laurel tone it back when
Ted Grant comes to town.
Then I shift more blame to the writers/EPs and director. Because if KC is allowed to make the acting choice of being Oliver's lady love while SA endures scenes with her, they really have no motivation for success with their show.
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Word. Basis of my fear since Ray appeared and Sara died. They are forging a path to O/L or BC/GA. Whether they take the path or not remains to be seen.Given the way the EPs apparently shoved Sara out of the plane without a parachute, and then said, 'huh? Sara? Who the fuck's that? Laurel is Black Canary. Excuse me, I've just got to kick some dirt into this carelessly dug grave', I'd say that Oliver/Laurel is still very much a possibility for the endgame romance.
These guys have shown that they are not interested in deviating from their plans for Laurel, no matter how badly they've worked out so far, and no matter how badly the writers and the actress have botched the things they've tried to do. I imagine Katie Cassidy is relying on that when she talks about how Oliver and Laurel will end up together, and it seems like she has a fair amount of precedent to fall back on.
They all know that Oliver and Felicity have much better chemistry, have a much better connection, and is far more accepted as a pairing by fans and media outlets. But then they also knew that Sara made a better vigilante, and was accepted more by fans and the media. Didn't change a damned thing. She's still dead, and it sounds like they're trying to erase her very existence. They're going to try and push Oliver/Laurel again, and if they get the slightest bit of purchase (such as fans saying they like Felicity with 50 Shades), I think they'll dig right in and say, 'okay, we know we're on the right track'.
They had a perfectly good BC and killed her to make room for Laurel and her attempts at being BC.
They have a perfectly good romantic interest in Felicity. They just wounded Olicity. Olicity might not be dead yet, but internal bleeding isn't always evident right away.
Hey, it could happen. TIIC have shown they are not smart enough to avoid really dumb decisions.
ETA: I'm bitter I attempted to edit this post and I lost it because it had been moved.
I'm bitter about the direction most of Arrow is going. Don't follow the writer's anvils. It is their subtle signs you need to watch for.
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^^ I thought that was just me and my UGH-KC-EYEROLL reaction everytime I see her ...... hmm....
Definitely not just you. This supposed string character made herself a damsel in emotional distress to throw herself at him. She stood poised when Oliver, Felicity, and Roy walked in but then turned all saddened southern belle. I would have believed it more if she'd been sitting on the floor bawling uncontrollably and he had moved to console her.
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Clock Tower Theater: Fanfic, Fan Music Videos and Art
in Arrow
I hope this episode woke some muses!