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Speaking of Maggie, she was also in on the cover up of Ethel's "suicide" right? Cause that was some bad fake acting when she was telling Jimmy about Ethel.
I don't think she was in on it. I think that was just actual bad acting. (As opposed to Lange's most excellent bad fake acting at "learning" of the death!)
Hey on a side note: Do you think Stanley took Ethel's head to the museum? That's why he suggested it look like it had been cut off? I find it odd that he would miss an opportunity to cash in on a freak's death like that.
Oh and did you guys recognize the surgeon that gave Elsa her Pinocchio wooden legs?! It was the jazz musician/serial killer from last season!
I think it would be odd of Stanley to take Ethel's head. I mean wouldn't that be more of a superficial oddity that wouldn't really appeal to the museum? Anyone could glue some pubes onto a head and put it in a display case, right?
I believe the surgeon actor (forgetting his name!) is also doing the voice of the psychiatrist. I'm wondering if that's for a later reveal or just for the actor to do more in the episode.
I forgot where Bette and Dot were this episode? Does anyone recall why they weren't around?
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I did enjoy the Chiklis cameo. It seemed a little silly that all 5 other main actors from The Shield had appeared but he hadn't.
Charisma Carpenter's cameo seemed about as random as whats-her-name the waitress from earlier in this season, but at least the nursing home receptionist had a function.
Did Jax ever find out Gemma's complicity in JT's death? It's all so far away at this point. Not that it would matter.
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Wasn't one of the girls in jail, the one who said her cousin was a doctor (?) one of the people on The People's Couch?
Yes, that's Julie Goldman.
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Also, I don't really care about pooooor Liam. So if he doesn't pursue the line of work his gramps wants him to, he has to find a job and support himself after high school like most adult humans instead of being bankrolled by a multi-millionaire while he pursues an art career? My heart's not exactly bleeding.
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That was sort of anti-climactic for a mid-season finale. So, Amy and Karma are on their way to healing and Karma and Liam are sort of hooking up again and there are unresolved hurt feelings and... yeah. What a cliffhanger.
I really wish they'd just give Reagan and Amy lots of hot makeout scenes where Reagan doesn't have to talk. They've got heat, but that actress playing Reagan is getting worse every episode.
Was that Theo thing supposed to be a big reveal? Didn't the entire audience predict he was a cop practically from his introduction?
I like Shane, but I'm annoyed that his outing Duke was shown to be the right choice in this situation (leading to a public love confession, of all things!). Outing someone against their will is not okay.
I guess the point of that was so that Shane can be flying sky-high and they can be blissfully in love and then it all comes crashing down around Shane when Duke finds out Shane was the one who outed him. But it's tiresome that they keep having him repeat this same cruel "mistake."
I must be the worst lesbian ever because I couldn't identify the celesbians that were in this episode. Please someone help me!!!
As for the episode, I am conflicted about everything except Lauren's story.
Julie Goldman was the only one I recognized, so I'm guessing all the "cell mates" in holding were the referred to celesbians? That's all I got.
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I'm as gay as the day is long and back in my younger, confused years, I only had sex with dudes when very, very drunk. It's pretty common. And really, when someone is that drunk, I think there's a weird misnomer about how it just breaks down inhibitions and your actions actually reflect some sort of latent want. That's just not true. I don't think Amy had some latent desire for Liam. Maybe very-drunken actions are based on some other latent feelings, like self-loathing or general confusion or loneliness or desperation for intimacy or internalized homophobia or who knows what else... but this idea that the very act is something you wanted deep down all along? No. Only someone who (wisely) has never gotten completely wasted would think that.
What I'm trying to say, basically, is that Amy sleeping with Liam was "out of character" because she was behaving out of character. It happens. We all do things that are out of character sometimes.
One thing I actually really liked about the whole reveal is that Karma was initially bummed but understood it wasn't an outright betrayal before she found out it was Amy. They were broken up and he wasn't cheating on her. Acknowledging details like that is oddly rare on television.
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My issue with this episode is I felt like it put words in Amy's mouth. I did not get the vibe Amy slept with Liam to spite Karma. She was depressed, drunk and maybe a part of her wanted to know what was so great about Liam that Karma chose him over her.
I agree. I took issue with both Amy and Liam "acknowledging" that they'd both done it to hurt Karma as much as possible. They were both wasted, self-destructive, and completely devastated. It wasn't some strategic pre-meditated plot to hurt Karma. It was a really crappy thing to do to Karma, but they didn't do it to be crappy to Karma. If that makes sense. It was really off to me that they maintained this during this episode since it's not what we saw play out on screen at all.
Part of me does think Liam took advantage of Amy to hurt Karma. I do not remember Liam drinking in the finale. If I saw someone who had evidently been crying and smelled like alcohol, I would back away. Amy may be impulsive, but callously sleeping with women was the entirety of Liam's character season one.
He was definitely super-drunk in that finale, but yes, casual sex had been a routine thing for him whether his partner wanted it to be casual or not, so it seemed pretty in character. (And of course we knew he had a lesbian fetish.)
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Of all the horrible things Elsa has done, yelling at Pepper might be the worst.
I know! I can't stand it when people are mean to Pepper, to me she's even more of a guileless innocent than Ma Petite (who likely plays up the cutesy factor because it's how she can get things). Pepper!
Someone above mentioned they're making Jimmy dull by pairing him with Maggie and I totally agree. That's the blandest imaginable pairing, I hope they don't make a whole thing of it.
Mat Fraser spinoff please.
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Wait, in season 1, he didn't wanted to continue with Karma, so she proposed the threesome.. It was not his idea, it was all Karma.. He really didnt lied entire first season, except for the sister situation in episode 4, which we only learned as lie in season 2..
But he was definitely lying the whole time he was dating Karma. There are several examples of his having lied, so this "never ever" thing is just overkill.
I enjoy the little romances on this show but I foolishly have faith that it'll ultimately still be focused primarily on Amy and Karma's friendship as the central focus of the show. I'm almost glad the Liam/Amy secret is out because that pushes the issue of the friendship back to the forefront instead of all the unrequited-feelings stuff.
These people are major oversharers. Shane's boyfriend's dad sure seemed unfazed having to hear about his son's gag reflex.
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Can someone remind me what happened to Lauren's birth parents? I thought Kevin Buchanan was her always-father, but then she had that line about his finding out she was intersex when she was 5? I feel like I've forgotten some back story.
The actress playing Reagan is... not improving. Oof.
This season has pushed way too hard with this "Liam has literally never told a lie in his life!" nonsense. Last season he was in a secret relationship with Karma for most of the season, so we already know about some lies. We're also told that he was the ultimate player. Players lie, it's part of the game. It's just all a little too forced.
I enjoyed the episode though! I was glad that Reagan's backstory involved a "you were a phase, I'm going back to boys" ex, since that is of course so real. Finding out Amy slept with Liam so recently is going to be rough on her. But I'm still glad the girls had sex! In full-coverage bras, of course! (Mostly because they needed to get it out of the way, since prior to now the only person Amy'd ever slept with was a guy.)
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I didn't hate the episode. Best of the season! Which is a low bar and it was still overlong, but I found most of it fairly engaging. More actual human conflict and less confusing bad-ass posturing with lots of long scenes of motorcycles pulling up to places.
Tig and Venus are so charming. Venus's dialogue was fantastic (the whole bit about knowing Tig shows up for what is transgressive/outside the box but her feelings being very much inside the box/etc), I was surprised Sutter had it in him. And so I'd say maybe he should write more relationship drama, and then I remember Althea/Chibs. That was god awful.
Considering the willing suspension of disbelief required to watch this show in general, I'm not bothered by Abel's plan being too sophisticated for a 5-year-old. He got a wound, a responsible adult told him if someone else did that to him they'd be in trouble with the cops, ergo he gave himself a wound and blamed it on the person he'd most like to see in trouble. I liked how it all led to his final question, I much preferred that chain of causality to having Abel just come out and tell Jax what Grandma said.
Why on earth did that Grim Bastards dude say, "Anything for you!" to Jax?! I know all the blind devotion is a standing joke but that took it too far even working within this show's internal logic.
Poor Unser.
Marilyn Manson is so gross. That all really gave me the heebie jeebies.
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I would think that Petra could get a financial settlement from a lawsuit against Luisa since she was the one who was supposed to be inseminated. However, since it all went wrong and she is not the mother, I don't think she would have a legitimate claim on the child. However however, since she was going to be inseminated with Rafe's sperm without his explicit consent, maybe she knows she's better off not bringing it up in court.
Ah yes! Okay, I was thinking the first part (she could make a pretty penny, nullifying the need for all of this) but had completely forgotten the second part (she scheduled the insemination surreptitiously).
It's odd to me that with that mother, Petra ever would have signed a pre-nup with a multimillionaire that only leaves her with $250K. Not very shrewd!
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I enjoy Petra as a shallow schemer who also has a good side. I thought this one went too far, and it's such a refreshingly feminist show that going back to the "women will fake domestic abuse" well for a storyline is troublesome. Bummer.
Also, wouldn't Petra have some legal rights to the child? The insemination was meant for her. Why does a divorce mean her rights are all out the window?
I miss Luisa.
I am fully with those of you above who are frustrated by the Michael/Rafael conflict. They're painting Rafael as a little too perfect right now and I'd prefer the show without them asking us to root for Jane and Rafael. I mean of course it's soapy that a baby would be enough reason for two people being super into each other out of nowhere (other than the years-earlier makeout), but it just seems too easily done right now.
All that said, I am in love with this show. And Rogelio is the greatest.
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Sidibe was nominated for an Oscar and a buttload of other awards for Precious. Don't ask me to explain why or how.
Oh I know, but that was an obvious one-off and I think most people know it was more about the material and her being unknown. It'll never happen again. They revolved the movie around what she can do, and it was a one-time thing.
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I feel the same way. I didn't get an incestuous vibe at all from either end. They just seemed like two lonely people. For a moment though I did cringe thinking that the scene was going to go all Monster's Ball on us.
Yes, yes, I was thinking the same thing! In particular, Bassett turned down that role in Monster's Ball and said she wasn't willing to play a whore and had a lot to say about it. And then in this show she literally plays a prostitute and then had some identical dialogue to that movie. Weird moment.
Probably in the minority here, but I think Gabourey is an awful actress. I was cringing all through her phone interaction with Frances Conroy. Not looking forward to seeing more of her this season.
She is god awful. In Precious they worked with her strengths and wrote around her a lot. It's not as easy to make a bad actor look good with the TV process of shooting and editing. I like her presence and keep waiting for her to get better or for someone to figure out how to write for her, but I've seen her in a dozen things and she's consistently terrible.
It's so glaring to me that in this show that's chock-full of Oscar and Emmy and Tony winners and nominees, we also have to see people like Roberts and Sidibe. Their lack of skill might be less obvious on another show but here it just hurts to see the contrast.
That business with the doctor was heartbreaking. I was so happy to see him again, wondering how his compassion might be extended to half the characters. Damn, Dell!
Adults can be cute, you guys! Quit feeling guilty about thinking Ma Petite is adorable! She is!
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I really wish I agreed with this because I think Reagan is a cool character and I love seeing Amy with someone who's really into her (and who she seems to be really into) and I certainly love that she's getting some action, but I did not like the actress playing Reagan at all. I thought something seemed off (stilted or forced) in some of her line deliveries and in particular her voice bugs me.
I'm so glad I didn't have to be the first to say this. I think the actress is terrible. I'm hoping she's just green and will improve, but that put a major damper on what was otherwise a really lovely episode. Yikes.
I also don't really think Karma has feelings for Amy (which is fine by me, I don't want them together). I think Karma's just self-absorbed and liked that Amy was in love with her, and is bummed that she's no longer the center of Amy's world in every way. Also she's allegedly supposed to be insecure, so any of us who've ever felt insecure would probably be disappointed by someone "getting over" us, even if we didn't want to be with them. It's actually one of the more realistic moves on the show's part, if that's indeed what they're trying to portray.
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I love how Jax lies to his club about who the rat was, meaning they won't bother to continue trying to figure it out. So it could be anyone, and anyone in the club that gets killed because of said rat in the future is on Jax's head. But as he's dumb as a brick and just wanted to cover for his temper tantrum, it's unsurprising.
Lord that was a long, long episode of very little content.
I do appreciate that Gemma's command to Wendy to stop being a lesbian has inevitably led to Wendy's love for Gemma's man.
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I'm so depressed that Mykelti Williamson had to sign on for that offensive nonsense. I hope they quickly subvert it somehow.
Someone will need to explain to me what was so great about Teddy's shirt.
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The judge throwing out the verdict would have been a little more believable if (a) both boys hadn't admitted they never made an agreement with her and (b) her acting in the porn wasn't so deliberately bad. If they could have made it mildly more nuanced, I'd buy it.
Also the judge offered two possibilities for why she accused them. Neither was "because they really did rape you and unfortunately there isn't enough evidence." It seems ethics would require some acknowledgment that it may have really happened but it just can't be proven. Maybe that's just wishful thinking on my part. (And of course I don't look to SVU for legal verisimilitude)
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Trembling-dog Grams is the thing that really makes this work.
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It wasn't. They mentioned this gym was downtown.. not in Hester.. Duke is son of owner, plus a MMA athlete, which explains why he doesn't want to be outed as gay.
Thanks! I missed that completely. That makes more sense.
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Wait, I might have spoken too soon. I got that "affirmative defense" stuff in relation to Texas Penal Code Section 21.11, which is specifically about "indecency with a child." However, the Penal Code Section 22.011, which is about sexual assault in general, further stipulates that the victim "was not a person whom the actor was prohibited from marrying or purporting to marry." So... since same-sex marriage is still illegal in Texas (for NOW, dun dun dunnn), it looks like while Reagan might not be guilty of "indecency with a child," she would be guilty of sexual assault? I don't know. I'm probably putting too much thought into this because I'm sure MTV doesn't give a shit.
Anyway, if that's the case, then I'm perfectly happy disregarding that because that's homophobic BS.
You're right that MTV certainly won't care but that's an interesting legal conundrum! There have absolutely been states where people have been convicted and imprisoned despite the age-difference stipulations because it was a same-sex situation. Some states are specific about those laws, some really don't mention it at all and therefore prosecutors can play dirty with it for exactly the reasons you state above.
I didn't get the sense that the MMA class was associated with the high school, so equating Duke to a "teacher" is a bit of a stretch IMO (unless I missed something?).
Okay, I really wasn't sure. On TV high school people just seem to have access to everything on the planet, so I guess it's feasible that it could just be a fun MMA activity at the teen center or... something. It was unclear to me.
(But again, I doubt MTV cares one way or the other. I just get my haunches up about this stuff on TV, I can't help it!)
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Wiki says the age of consent is 17, but that it's an "affirmative defense" if 1) the older person is no more than three years older than the younger person, 2) the younger person is older than 14, and 3) there's no duress or force involved (well, no shit). So it's something similar to a Romeo & Juliet clause, I'm assuming. Under these guidelines, if Amy's 16, then Reagan could possibly be as old as 19 without falling afoul.
Thanks for the clarification, I just checked again, looks like I was looking at an outdated listing.
So a girl in college can legally have sex with a minor in high school in Texas. She just can't ever marry her. Texas forever! Ha.
I'm still curious about the teacher/student thing with Shane, though, but I may have been unclear on the guy's actual role.
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I'm assuming Amy turned 16 already because Amy said Erma got her a card for her birthday too? Is this their way of having Amy with Reagan if she in dead turns out to be 18 and older? What's the age limit in Texas? PLL seems to get away with it because they are in Pennsylvania.
The age of consent is 17 in Texas, but I doubt this show cares considering Shane is now getting it on with his teacher. (Or do I misunderstand, was he just a student who happened to coach other students in MMA?) Even on PLL, Ezra is committing a felony because of his age and job, but they don't care because apparently their love transcends laws or boundaries or propriety or... something. (It doesn't transcend my stomach, I know that much!)
I'm glad Amy is going to stop trying to keep Karma from dating someone else. I still see no chemistry there and would prefer Amy to move on. From the previews, it looks like Liam
confesses having sex with someone else but not who it was, and Karma gets furious. Which will bore me. They weren't together. But it also looks like Amy gets some Reagan lovin'!
I still can't really tell if Michael Willett is a particularly good actor or not, but I do find him endlessly engaging and fun.
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S04.E08: Blood Bath
in American Horror Story
And what's he going to say when he gets to the hospital anyway? "Oh, I tripped and fell into a vat of boiling tar and then some chickens jumped in?"