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No what I meant is that castration and male mutilation is a HUGE part of the show to include what happened to Theon (which is way worse than just castration). I don't see anyone saying that the author or show runners must hate men because of it. And come on, is not male dismemberment just as bad and female rape if not worse? I'm not sure any show with this many missing cocks can be misogynistic.
I agree, the materials go and have gone there a lot, compared to any other show ever before, and you're right about no one saying the author hates males because of the fact. Is it worse? I don't know. Have the show's writers given us instances where men who stayed intact, in the book, were cut for the show? As many instances where book characters had consensual sex, but the show depicted rape? Two, that I'm aware of, and both happened with the two most arguably powerful female characters in the story.
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The first thing that occurs to me is that the show and the book take zero issue with introducing and discussing male dismemberment (which has to be at least equivalent to female rape - no?) in droves. I actually found myself wondering if the gratuitous boobs on the show aren't so much a requirement of being on HBO as a silent apology to the male viewers for constantly being reminded that in the world of GRRM, losing your cock is a fairly common occurrence.
Do you mean, public discussion in their PR materials? Let's face it, that's a conversation men don't really want to have and, seeing as though eunuchs fell out of fashion for good, say, 100 years ago, who is there to call them on it?
In show? Castration, for societal reasons, was a factor as much as arranged marriages in the barbaric times similar to JRRM's settings. Why wouldn't there be discussion?
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This episode made me cringe in so many places ... the High Sparrow is the creepiest character on the show - even more than Ramsey Snow, to me. J Pryce is beyond perfect. In his own way, HS = Ramsey without the physical torture. That he's commanding the things his is, for the supposedly "right" reasons, and is beyond anyone's control. RS will at least listen to Roose's advice. Can't wait to see where things go after Cersei's Walk.
Stannis is going to burn his own daughter to death, isn't he? Any half-way decent father wouldn't even be conflicted about this.
Stannis might be conflicted. Selyse, not so much. Look out Shireen!
... but no way do I think she was reminding Ramsy of his bastard status just to piss him off. She`s trying to turn him against his father. Divide and conquer. I think i do get where they are going with this story, that Sansa will rise from all this trauma and abuse and become the next great Stark leader, but damn. Did it have to be this nasty?
As good as it was to see, I don't believe Sansa was intentionally trying to run a spike between Father-Son to the effect LF might have, more likely lashing out. If it'd been a LF or a Varys or a master manipulator, they would have done it in the manner of voicing concern for Ramsey, and not give the appearance of taunting.
And that's the big thing Sansa has to learn! Before getting wrapped up with the KL crew, she always got what she wanted for no other reason that she's Sansa fucking Stark, the adored daughter of the Lord of the North. Lately, a woman just got flayed for helping her for no other reason. Maybe now, it will finally sink in that she has to pay attention to others' needs & desires in order to get what she wants, and what she wants needs to benefit more than one person.
After Theon ratted her out, Ramsay was on the lookout for anybody sneaking up to the broken tower with a candle.
Ramsey probably brought the candle there, himself, to see who might be around.
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The North wouldn't rise up in open rebellion over marital rape. Abduction, yes. Marital rape, no.
I don't think it will be a question of whether the North will rise, as much as Who will they rise against, Who's leading, and When. If Stannis is victorious, no need to rise against the Boltons, but they can be brought to march against Cersei and maybe the Freys; though they're now insignificant, there's a matter of justice. If Jon Snow leaves the Nightwatch, who knows?
And I don't think Littlefinger is ignorant of Ramsey's nature. I think that's just a story he told Sansa, and Ramsey, in order to have plausible deniability later, should things go really wrong. I don't think he's as enamored of Sansa as we've been led to believe.
I'm sure he's enamored of Sansa as long as he believes she's the key to getting everything he wants, and, at this point, I wouldn't put it past Baelish to have his eye on the Iron Throne. He's got the Vale, and once Sansa is Ramsey's widow, she'll hold the North. Cersei won't know what hit her, in his mind. D & D can't be putting so much emphasis on Sansa if they never intend for her to start piecing shit together, starting with Jon Arryn. They just. Can't.
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The main difference between Sansa and those women is lack of support. She has no "good" man, the way that Catelyn had Ned or Dany had Khal. She has no dragons, the way Dany did. She has no proud family lineage behind her, the way Cat and Margaery did. She has no family who could help her find a way to power, the way Margaery or Cat did. She doesn't even have a Jorah figure, the way Dany did. Her Jorah figure is a complete shit-for-brains who lets her get raped while he's busy smirking away in King's Landing.
Oh, I wildly disagree.
Maybe she has no good counsel right now, but she's had plenty of people around her for support overall. She grew up adored and doted on, while Dany had no one but Viserys and his abuse. But Dany DID have the smarts to ask someone to help her wrap Drogo around her finger, sexually. Sansa could have asked Shae for help there (and wouldn't that have been interesting?). Sansa has proud family lineage to spare, Kings of the North, etc. etc.
I think Sansa's problem is she wants the pretty trappings that go with have power, and doesn't understand how they go together.
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I've never been a big fan of Sansa as a character and this show was a reminder that, in spite of everything she's been through, Sansa Stark of Winterfell is still thinking like the spoiled brat she was in Season 1. And I hate to say it, but in the laws of TV soap writers going back decades, rape is the route of choice for redeeming young, selfish brats.
Or, to put it a more kind way: Sansa is where she is now, because, like Tommen, she has her head up her ass. She wanted to be queen, but she never put any thought into about what Queens do and how they do it, beyond getting their hair brushed every night and fine fabrics stiched (side note: Sansa's Winterfell wardrobe is ugly beyond ugly. Calling LL Bean for rescue.
She could have taken Theon's arm, as he begged, but she chose not to look beyond her hatred.
When asked why she was a virgin, Sansa could have chosen a lie that didn't elevate Tyrion and make Ramsey look like a heathen in comparison. "I'd have loved to, but the Imp was always too drunk to pull it off," would have been an easy exit from that conversation, and given Ramsey a reason to try impress her, in a good way.
If, for that one minute, Sansa had the ability to look beyond her own discomfort, that would have been an indicator she was ready to start taking an active position, manipulate Ramsey, and play the damn. Game. But she wasn't ready, still. To compare Sansa to the other female power characters, it shows something Margaery, Dany, Cersei, and even Cate all understood: weilding power comes, partly, from the ability to give others what they want, and not just worrying about yourself.
Won't it be interesting to see what choices Sansa makes next? I have little doubt the writers will, eventually, grow her up and give her long-range motivations other than pure survival. Right now it looks like they're going for rape-redemption and, shiiiiiit ... it was a stupid shortcut on the soaps and it is on GoT, too.
However, I don't believe the true villain of this scene is the sick bastard Ramsey, but Littlefinger. I never once believed that he wouldn't use anyone - even Sansa - for his own gain and he did when he arranged her marriage here. Even if Ramsey wasn't a crazy psycho, he had to know that something very similar to this scene would play out for Sansa. Yet he used her a chess piece all the same.
Exactly. When Sansa pulls her head out of her ass, I expect she'll realize how much Littlefinger manipulated events in her family, all along, marry him and stick the knife between his shoulder blades in one way or another, wind up Lady of the North AND the Vale, and, if she has any self-awareness, at long last, will also realize how unfit she is to even try to rule Westeros.
First award for tonight's episode goes to the cinematographer. The episode was full of visual delights like the hall of faces and the nighttime Winterfell wedding scene.
OMG, yes. And isn't it funny, how weddings in Westeros are such beautiful, dignified affairs while actual marriages ... not so much? But the Godswood was lovely.
The hall of faces - and so much in the House of B & W - reminds me of HR Giger's works.
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I refuse to blindly accept the
Jon dies
scenario. Refuse. One way or another,
he walks away, perhaps living, perhaps as a blue-eyed whatever.
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Jon/Stan/Mel/Selyse - on point for me. I could see Tormund getting the Winterfell story if they do it, just because he's been the go-to Wildling Guy and he's probably not as expensive as Hinds. I don't remember who mentioned the "seeing who looked vs. seeing who didn't" thing but it was pretty interesting to see that.
I guess it makes for a more interesting arc, too, in how Tormund has been so sworn against Westerosi in general and Jon, in specific.
I don't like the vibe we're getting with Mel & Jon, although I have to admit to some curiosity of what Jon's shadow-baby would do.
Overall, I liked this show a lot, glad we'll get to Arya next time.
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The 1973 movie will always be the #1 for me. I am also a huge fan of the book, and enjoy how Lester used the peasants and other extras to get digs in against the royalty. Dumas was a socially conscious writer, and the 3/4 Musketeers used it.
HATED the 1993 version. Cheese and mustache twirling and no humor.
the 2011 was intriguing but not interesting.
Which brings me to this new one: I'm enjoying it a lot. The cast is spot on, although, really, Aramis was written as a dandy. As brilliant as Oliver Reed was as Athos, I don't know if he'd be as enjoyable a character with Reed's energy sustained, over the length of a whole series. I fear by episode 9, there'd be self-parody.
Not sure how I feel about various plot changes, but they've got a whole season or two to fill out. I'm also not sure how I feel about the Musketeers being translated as some early version of Special Forces/CIA-type stuff, but I guess the producers need to keep up with the times.
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S05.E07: The Gift
in Game Of Thrones
Hopefully we'll finally get somewhere, or a new set of clues, at least.
The Night's King
is in the credits in episodes 8 and 10. I also saw a claim that
Uncle Benjen
was listed, but the info wasn't showing last I looked.