dtissagirl
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I love to imagine these leather wearing people trying to do stealth recon in real life while squeaking.
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33 minutes ago, Trini said:
No one ever said they'd be drama-free. I just don't think they'll follow Olicity, because look how well that's working out for Arrow. And we'll see if even the network lasts that long!
I don't think this has anything to do with O/F. It has to do with how network television does longform endgame relationships. At this point I can't see them keeping a young couple on a young male demo skew on the CW together for the next 4 to 7 years. Like, I'd love to see that -- it would be *groundbreaking* shit right there. But I'm skeptical because I know how the sausage is made.
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I've been binge watching Chicago Fire this week, and I'm up to the episode the endgame couple got engaged in early season 3. But they didn't get married until the 100th episode in season five, and in between those episodes, they throw lots and lots of drama at them -- including a break up in S4 -- because television.
I think if Flash were to last 5 seasons, then yeah, maybe they won't throw break up drama at Barry and Iris, but this show has potential to go 10 years. Even if they go the long engagement route to have the wedding at the 100th episode, for example, and even if there is no relationship drama from engagement to wedding... they'll still have another 50-100 episodes to go after that. On the CW. If they get married before the 100th episode? Then I'll be betting on an actual divorce before reconciliation once the show gets an end date. Because television.
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If I were to guess, WBTV has already decided to subsidize budget for next season, so ratings are REALLY super irrelevant from now on.
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12 minutes ago, Sunshine said:
I just checked IMDb. It looks like he hasn't been in this season of Blue Bloods. I don't know when his movie Illicit was filmed.
No, that movie was shot in 2015. Maybe he did ask for less days on set.
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7 minutes ago, Morrigan2575 said:
By far, she's 31 minutes ahead of Wild Dog and 40 minutes ahead of Curtis.
Quite honestly the people who got really screwed are Diggle and Thea. Diggle has dropped from 3rd place to 5th and Thea has dropped to 7th (behind Ragman).
Yeah, what IS going on with David Ramsey having so little screentime? Is he filming more Blue Bloods than usual?
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Batfleck and Matt Damon spent A LOT OF MONEYS this Oscar season to ~protect~ Casey Affleck from the sexual assault charges. Not just putting money into the best actor campaign, but also actively trying to get the women who accused him blacklisted. Garbage men are garbage.
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1 minute ago, BkWurm1 said:
And didn't she start dating Scott Foley when she was working on "Felicity" with him? On set romances seem to be her thing.
Yes.
I've always wondered how awkward were things for Greg Grunberg and JJ Abrams through the Alias years, after they'd been there for the Felicity years.-
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1 minute ago, BkWurm1 said:
We saw her upset in Russia about what looked like another Havenrock in the making. I think that was supposed to be Havenrock factoring in. She was willing to go darker to get answers if it meant keeping another nuke out of the wrong hands.
I've shifted my thinking about everything the writers say that sound like a storyline: it will not be a storyline. It will be a scene. 2-3 scenes at best. There is no more storyline. There are only scenes.
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The BTS shit on Alias was TOP NOTCH. Garner and Vartan started making eyes at each other while she was still married to Scott Foley. I've read gossip articles saying to this day Foley refuses to talk to her, so it was BAD.
And then history repeated itself for Vartan. LOL.-
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13 minutes ago, HighHopes said:
SA also recently said (in that EW interview I think?) that they didn't know that Oliver would end up in Hong Kong at the end of season two when they started the season.
There's a SDCC press room interview with Kreisberg from before S3, I think?, in which he said he and Berlanti knew Oliver would end up in Hong Kong at the end of S2 from when they were pitching the show [or maybe from the pilot, I don't remember exactly]. It's the same interview in which he said they always knew Sara would show up not dead in present time at some point.
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I'm actually starting to wonder if the mea culpa after this season is gonna veer into "the network wanted us to try different things, but unfortunately it didn't resonate too well with the audience", i.e. the network told them to stall 'ship, the studio forced seventeen masks on them, and some mystery entity forced Oliver to stop pooping altogether.
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4 minutes ago, statsgirl said:
I agree that GB may be more likely to think about Oliver Queen being married than AK, especially since AK was all about Laurel Lance the Black Canary and by that time Lauriver was dead in the waters. He'd be more reluctant to see Oliver married to someone else.
Kreisberg was the one who wrote the married GA/BC comics, so yes. He's the one with the soft spot for that relationship [Cupid was his creation specifically to disrupt GA/BC, even], while Berlanti is the dude who paired up Joey and Pacey on DC despite EVERYONE in production being terrified of going there.
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16 minutes ago, Chaser said:
I honestly don't think they are following comics anymore now then previous seasons. They've always had nods to the comics, they've always introduced new comic characters. New blood introduced in later seasons, also common TV storytelling.
None of this is out of the ordinary for Arrow or TV.
What has been said about BC is annoying, but nothing that was yelled about when it became clear they were adding her has happened.
Yup yup yup. Maybe one could argue that the characters getting stuck in this weird lack-of-development limbo is the most comic book thing they've done, since comic book characters take like, forty years to get any sort of development. But other than that? The comic book stuff is the same superfluous stuff.
I don't even get why people think Tinah is getting a because comics treatment. She has two things from the comics: 1. the name, 2. the meta cry. That's it. Everything else is Arrow doing Arrow.-
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Someone asked Paul Dini if he would ever write an episode for DCTV and he said it's unlikely, and it made me irrationally sad?
Give Paul Dini a rando episode, Berlanti. I bet it would be funtimes.
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I think people are also into the forced/fake marriage trope because that one is almost always played as FUN miscommunication rom-com with a good dose of heartfelt moments.
My very favorite string of episodes on Arrow was 201-209 to this day. And that's when they were doing all sorts of fun rom-com stuff with O/F. And I guess... at this point I think I'd be totally fine if they went back to that while never ever ever mentioning the S3 and S4 angst ever again. Like, I would gladly take the narrative amnesia if they gave me fun rom-com again.
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1 hour ago, tv echo said:
If Arrow has never been beholden to the comics, then what's with this season's party line about how we can't have a Green Arrow show without a Black Canary?
They can't say "Time Warner's board of directors want DC Comics IPs that have potential to be developed in movies, videogames, and merchandise to be featured on our show."
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23 minutes ago, statsgirl said:
It seems to me that it's rape if
- you have a pre-existing relationship with a person and someone else is pretending to be that person or
- you have sex with a person in the understanding that you're going to be getting something and the other person is either unable (pretend dean) or refuses to give it (dean who says he will let in the kid but has no intention of doing so).
1 is rape, yes.
2 isn't rape. A court would most likely dismiss it because the person consented to having sex ["I only did it because they promised to give me a pony" = irrelevant if you consented to the sex part. You've been duped, not raped]. I mean, depending on what you were getting in exchange for sex, that is solicitation, and you're the criminal, not the victim.-
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1 minute ago, LadyChaos said:
TPTB have said numerous times they only write 2 eps ahead. They would have been writing 514 when they were filming 512 and the she was already well introduced by then, because it was filmed mid to late November. Not only that but filming fell behind last year which would imply that there were delays in production.
This isn't how it goes. Even if filming gets behind, the writing is much further along than just 2 episodes. They usually start the season 8-9 episodes ahead in writing [501 aired when 508 was filming and 509 was in production prep]. After the holiday break, the gap closes a little to maybe 4-5 episodes ahead. But no way they're just 2 eps ahead in writing. The network would be staging an intervention if that were happening.
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I think the rationale of putting it on Felicity [that isn't just blatant sexism] is that because the show decided to break up O/F, then there's drama, so if Oliver and Felicity never happened, there would be no drama.
Except. They set up the kid story before O/F officially happened. And they had every intention of following through with it in later seasons, because we know Kreisberg told Anna Hopkins she'd be back down the road.
That kid would have created drama regardless of who Oliver were dating. If it had been Laurel, it would probably have been even worse because cheating would have been involved.. If O/F had never happened and Oliver had been single, they would have created drama WITH the Baby Mama. If Moira had been alive, the kid would've created drama between Oliver and his mother. That kid meant drama, period.-
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26 minutes ago, statsgirl said:
If a real dean sleeps with stupid mothers by telling them that he will let their kids into the college but has no intention of doing so, is that rape?
If Susan Williams sleeps with Oliver Queen, telling him she cares about him and wants to make him feel better after all the problems he's having, but only does it so that she can get information to do an expose on him, is that rape? It's getting him into bed by misrepresenting who she is (i.e. she's representing herself as someone who genuinely cares about him but she's only doing it for her career).On SVU, it boiled down to consent -- Paula Marshall consented to having sex with Professor Whoever, but then it turned out it was Doucheface Asshat pretending to be the Prof, and she never consented to having sex with Doucheface. That was the case.
Susan having sex with Oliver [the real one] for whatever reason is not rape because they both consented to having sex. Having ulterior motives, like gaining something from the other person after sex, isn't rape. It's just being super shitty garbage people.
But if Human Target is wearing his Oliver mask and having sex with Susan without her knowing it's not Oliver? Then it's the same thing as the SVU episode I mentioned. She consented to having sex with Oliver, not a dude wearing his face.
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For me it looks like their typical schedule -- all sorts of relationshippy stuff [good or bad] almost always happens during Sweeps on this show. So all of the Oliver/Susan stuff is happening now because February Sweeps.
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5 minutes ago, statsgirl said:
It's like if you think you're sleeping with a guy called Pete who is an accountant and you learn that his real name is Joe and he's a lawyer. It's still the same guy but with a different identity.
I know nothing of actual law, but just last week I watched an episode of SVU in which the plot is this exactly -- Paula Marshall thought she was sleeping with the admission's dean of the university she wanted her kid to get into, it turns out the dude stole the dean's identity to fool desperate mothers into having sex with him -- and he was on trial for rape.
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Mind Your Surroundings: Arrow, The Flash, Supergirl, Legends of Tomorrow and Other Superhero Universes
in Arrow
And Nikita did all that in only 73 episodes. Flash is aiming 150-200 episodes. The longer it goes, the more separation tropes get hit.