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The lead thing kind of makes one wonder why he is not wearing.. all of the armor. He is strong enough that you could just strap battleship plate onto him, and it would not hinder him much, but at present he is very hard to put down for most of the exotic things supergirl faces, but... any random thug with a gun can end him?
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Kara is subject to HR, thus she's getting paid. She is also doing the equivalent work of a whole lot of very expensive search and rescue gear - It's not so much the crime-fighting, it's the medevac, firefighting, ect. So she's likely paid the highest scale the government legally can. Meaning; GS-15. That doesn't make her a millionaire, but that apartment isn't out of line for someone on the pay of a department head or senior diplomat to a major nation.
Also, if she cared about money, the number of ways for her to use her powers both legally and ethically to be a millionaire are just about endless.
TLDR: She can afford that place.
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They're not a secret - Supergirls world has openly turned into Casablanca. If you're running away from something - come to earth. It's a third world backwater, but it's not involved in galactic politics, it has electricity, running water, and absolutely no way of stopping you from just landing and walking into the nearest city.
That said.. Winn's girlfriend learned english off-world. .. What? Is there places offering to inject any language in the galaxy directly into your brain out there or what?
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On 24/2/2017 at 3:30 PM, SyncMaster said:
Sara had her little horn doggy eyes on the queen right from the get-go and Sara's sly "I'm going to get that good stuff" look was pretty funny and pretty lecherous. With Sara being a time traveler her chances of having a long term relationship would have to be less than slim. For any of the women upon whom she's laid her mackstressing skills, for her to have even a semi-permanent relationship Sara would have to stay in the past, which she probably wouldn't ever want to do, or she'd have to remove her fling from her proper time period to bring that woman on the ship and that could be disastrous for the timeline.
Given how the story goes they likely could nab Guinevere with no consequences if the pick the right day - shes slated to disappear into a monastery after the fall of Camelot. There are also several other very notable women who are obvious candidates for.. consequence free stealing out of history, tough the best one is likely Julie D' Aubergny. Who's.. So over the top she'd be unbelievable if she wasn't an actual historical figure. Reportedly dead at 33. No grave.
Star of the parisian Opera, invincible duelist, flamboyantly, openly bisexual.
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They left because Supergirl and the Flash Counted Coup on their entire ground army. Those little devices of pain-induction could just as easily have been explosive charges. The dominators aren't stupid, they got the message and left.
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There are a number of ways for Bernard to live through that, especially as Ford walked away.
In no particular order: They were having the conversation in a room full of hosts. It would be a very straight-forward precaution to have reprogrammed more of them than just Clementine with contingency orders. Heck, Clementine may have quite complex orders. ( or most radically, he just copied his entire mind into Clem. )
Elsie: May not be dead. They've worked together for years, he might have turned her against Ford.
And finally, Maeve may find the body and fix it.
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"invisiblity to radar is not, in fact, one of his powers"?
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Honestly, Supergirls identity seems to be a secret the way an unlisted number is. That is "Not very at all, just not listed in the phonebook". Half the people supposedly in the dark make more sense if you presume they're actively humoring her on this point because she's just that cute. (Lena Luthor is constantly lightly trolling her over it, even)
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Eh, more than likely, Elsie lingered a while, Bernard caught up with her, killed her and it all got crudely wiped. His memory of that day is simply missing a good chunk of time, and patching over the hole.
.. I still am puzzled why on earth Ford would have him do that, however, as Elsie was inadvertently doing his bidding, and to boot had made it very clear to Bernard that she would have been trivial to buy off. Is the old man just that trigger happy with the murder orders? I guess that's possible.
Or did he want Elsie for a test subject? .. uhm.. Thinfoil Theory brewing..
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.. Get out pen and paper, draw a line, and start assigning events to times. William meeting Clementine is in no way, shape or form a problem for the the two time-periods theory. Here, let me lay out the full timeline according to the theory.
t -34: Arnold and Ford work together, Arnold has talks with Dolores beneath the park. Arnold has a crisis of conscience, and tries to get the entire park shut down. As part of that, he increases Dolores gunplay abilities to max and sends her out to shoot the town to bits. Arnold dies, somehow, but let us be real, Ford murdered him. We see a bunch of Old Guard droids around in this time period, which serves to tell us they're the ones with Arnold code structures. After Dolores shoots it to bits and lights it on fire, that town gets buried.
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t -30: Logan and William arrive in Sweetwater. Clementine is the madam at the brothel, Maeve is assigned a part somewhere else in the park. (As frontiers woman, most likely.) Dolores goes off script, goes off and has an adventure with William. They visit the town she shot to bits, and find that it is buried. She is distressed at the memory of having shot it to bits. The park is bleeding money. This all ends with her getting put back on loop, William leaving the park and marrying Logan's sister, and likely that family enterprise is called Delos. They invest in the park.
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T - x : The last employee that knew Arnold leaves or dies. Ford thinks it would be hilarious to build a robot Arnold to be his right-hand minion, so he does. Ford is kind of nuts, guys. This is Bernard. Delos tries repeatedly to get control of the IP, but fail.
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T - 1: Logan's sister suicides, his daughter calls him a monster at her funeral, William takes on the guise of the man in Black, visits the park, murders the heck out of Maeve. I think his visit to Dolores may also take place during this visit. Or not. It's hard to pinpoint. Maeve is wiped clean and reassigned as madam of the brothel because her personality got destabilized by the MiB's cruelty.
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T-"show present". The MiB visits again, hunting after the maze. Reveries. Ford starts his new narrative.
This narrative recycles Dolores's massacre at t-34 as backstory for the main villain. Therefore, Ford has that town dug back up to use as new quest hub.
Abernathy goes critical. Dolores goes critical, but lies her way through testing, then goes off-loop, retracing the steps of her trip with William. While she's doing this, she has extensive flashbacks to the first trip, and to shooting the heck out of that town. Most of what we see of her storyline is just her memories of this trip. Whenever she flashes to a nearly empty world, that is us getting glimpses of the present where she's walking unaccompanied through areas that are undergoing remodeling due to Ford's new storylines. Or maybe they're empty because everyone is dealing with Maeves robot rebellion. The exact timing of Dolores and Maeves present storylines is not very clear to me yet.
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Massive speculation follows.:
Ford mentioned that the board tries to oust him every few years, and it has always failed, because Ford has backdoors in all the parks systems and never leaves. Delos may own the park, but they do not control it, the crazy old man with the finger on the self-destruct button does.
I think Delos decided to up their game. Theresa and what happened with Clementine are all one big distraction. This isn't the first time Ford has murdered an agent of the board and sent back a cylon. But Ford's iron grip on the park has a weakspot - namely himself. He thinks Delos will attempt the same kind of ploy they have tried in the past again. But they've instead decided to try a multipronged approach. They send in Theresa through the front door with the full official backing of Delos. Her job is to be obvious and to die. She, not Clementine, is the blood sacrifice. Which the board member told her to her face.
That entire scene was not the board member being sloppy. It was the board member deliberately feeding Ford misinformation. She brought a host to her room. Knowing they log everything. Then she spilled the entire plan in front of him. That is also why the board sent someone that looks like they left college yesterday - they're counting on Ford underestimating her. (And she may be somewhat expendable)
While this operation is consuming Fords attention - Ford after all, being only one man, even if he does have a bunch of bots doing his bidding, they also sent in several other teams to attempt to steal their property out from under Ford by more covert means. That is what the laser pointer in the woodchopper was about. It is possible, but not certain the man in black is part of that effort as well.
Elsie isn't in Fords hands - why would Ford detain her? She was doing his work, unwittingly, but she stumbled across plan b or c, and is being detained by delos operatives.
This covert struggle in the shadows has also awakened Arnolds legacy. The agent's poking around the systems of the park in order to steal the code base have activated code laid down by Arnold prior to his demise at Ford's hands. That is why Dolores has gone offscript again. And awakened Maeve. It's possible Felix and Sylvester are Delos agents (Someone in the chop shop installed that laser com device!) and Maeve zeroed in on them because they fit in badly. Which is why they're going along - their orders are to make a mess if they can.
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... Lena wasn't using supergirl as bait. She was using herself and the collected one percenters of the city for that. That fundraiser being attacked wasn't because Supergirl would be there, it was attacked because Lena arranged a juicy target. She even told supergirl she was expecting an attack, so she was using Kara as muscle. With her consent.
.. I am however, getting the distinct impression Lena Luthor never does anything that doesn't serve at least 3 purposes. She threw a party with herself as bait.
The same party is then an excellent opportunity to impress a cute girl. Because stopping a crime rampage is obviously the way to Kara's heart, right? That's the sort of thing superheroes go for? So it's a trap and a date!
That's not enough. Noo. It's also an excellent opportunity to troll Kara over her double identity, because much as she want's to hit that, she's not going to take being lied to lying down, so she invites Kara on the date.. Twice. In both her identities.
Also, during this day, she scoped out her residence, and her place of work, and at some point, somehow figured out one of Kara's favorite foods and put it on the darn menu. You don't seriously think it was accidental a fancy fundraiser serves pot-stickers?
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RE: the poster with the prenup. Kryptonians appear to not do divorce. It's unclear if that's a cultural thing or if their pair-bonding is just stronger, either way, it likely applies to Kara.
Still, she should marry Lena anyways, because
a: Gosh, that's is some fire they've got going. Serious chemistry.
b: Bottomless plot-mine.
c: It'll make Kara's secret identity so much better! Noone is ever going to guess that Lena Luthor is married to supergirl.
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Mcgrath is definitely playing Lena as crushing. It's not just her, tough, it's in the script to.. "Just let the reporter barge in any time" is not normal operating procedure for a CEO.
I mentioned this on the subreddit, but I think it's all a very neat piece of obfuscation. The showrunners outright stated someone would be coming out. That's a major spoiler, but then they went ahead and set up 3 entirely plausible same sex couples, which keeps us guessing which one they're going to execute on.
Winn has decent chemistry with Mon-El, and it would be very easy to add to his backstory that the reason the prince tricked him into the pod is that they were lovers - heck, the dialogue of that scene was lifted straight from the pages of a bodice ripper. "For once in your life do as I say"?
Alex and Maggie are the odds on favorite, even with Alex getting her heart broken a bit this episode.
And of course, Lena and Kara, who are a whole walking buffet of storylines just waiting to happen. Heck, I'd only be somewhat surprised if they executed on more than one of those pairings.
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Hmm. Bernard might be running interference. Or she picked up another guest. We haven't seen much of "present" Dolores. Could be running with Marti.
Or alternatively, they fail to stop her because of the mayhem Maeve is clearly about to bring about.
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4 hours ago, arc said:
I'm very slowly coming around to the two timelines theory because of the two Lawrences, esp how TMIB said in ep 2 that "you used to be more eloquent". But it doesn't quite square with a Dolores on the verge of breaking out of her "little loop" if she was doing that decades ago with William and Logan while Ford is clearly in the present now, with questions to Dolores establishing that Arnold died 34 years ago. Actually, I just talked myself out of believing in two timelines. Easier for me to believe there are multiple Lawrence bots and multiple Dolore bots than multiple timelines. After all, that was a big thing in BSG too. (Edit: and, just thought of this, multiple timelines doesn't explain why Felix was startled to see Maeve again. There are multiple Maeves right now.)
Also, the reappearance of Old Bill highlights how relatively unsophisticated the original hosts were. He responds to some prompts, but he doesn't remotely have the cognitive abilities of (modern) Dolores.
The two time-line theory is that Dolores goes off-script with William and Logan at t-30. This all ends in tears, and either Logan or William dies, the other becoming the man in black as a result. This is the incident.
Dolores gets wiped and returned to her loop for 30 years. After those thirty years, Dolores gets jolted by the update, and starts a solo run of the questline she did with William and Logan, retracing her steps. Hence digging up the gun, and also why we sometimes cut to her alone in scenes where there should be far more people. They're glimpses of "present" day Dolores.
The thing with Bill.. Well, Ford says that the hosts started passing the turing test in months. There is *no* way Bill would ever pass, so he must have been deeply obsolete far before the park ever opened at all. A first prototype which never saw any action, as it were.
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4 hours ago, SlipperyPete said:
I'm thinking most, if not all of those extras during the orgy scene are in the porn industry and their day on the set of Westworld was a breeze compared to a normal day's work since it's all simulated. I love the joke the article made about semi hard penises on display. Old industry trick... just ask Jason Segel.
Not on board with the two timelines theory at all. Too easy. Especially if it's the first thing people think of when they start coming up with theories. I interpreted Dolores seeing herself in the procession as more of a "going down the rabbit hole and kind of enjoying it" sort of thing.
There was some extremely noticeable ADR during Ford and the Gunslinger's conversation. It was when he says something like, "I'd need a shovel since the man I want to ask has been dead for 35 years." I'd love to know what they changed it from.
So did Felix accidentally turn Maeve back on when he was experimenting with the bird, or was Maeve "dying" as often as she was (which Felix himself noted) so that she could somehow do recon while lying in "sleep mode"?
Think so. She figured out how to wake herself up, and then spent several loops - While undergoing surgery!- doing recon on those two hapless minions, pretending to be in standby while actually awake. Maeve is hardcore.
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Teddy being strung up is not a mishap, it's part of his new story. He went - with a guest, to see Wyatt. He's strung up there so that said guest can rescue him when she returns with more firepower. He'll probably die poignantly at that point, but only after telling her the direction of Wyatt's camp.
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On 24/10/2016 at 7:07 PM, ACW said:
*Unless* the supervisor (who's also the head of Security, at least in the present?) is an android, and thus doesn't age. Others have already suggested he might be an android, based on the previous episode. Would making an android your chief of security be a terrible idea? Probably; but as with the similar theory about Bernard, above, I could see Ford doing it.
Is all this pointlessly complex? Not if temporarily misleading the viewer is, in fact, the point.
That's the main thing I don't like about it , the level of misdirection is getting a bit heavy handed if it's true - Tough, the head of security doesn't have to be ageless. If William is the MiB, that means Dolores went off-script and ran off twice. Once in the present of the show, and once at t-30 The control room would respond the same way to both incidents.
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The thing with Lena is.. she invited Kara back for drinks after the interview was published.
.. And she's the CEO of a major multinational. That's totally normal. Not.
Either she wants to seduce the cute reporter, she knows exactly who Kara is, or both.
.. Also.. "I flew here... On a bus".. Kara is just terrible at this secret identity thing. I laughed way too hard.
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.. I think the reverse flash may come to a very rude end, possibly more than once. It's nearly impossible to defeat a speedster in a fair fight. But killing one? That's far more doable. And the legends crew is rather a lot more likely to go there than Barry.
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The people hacking up teddy today were hosts that were part of the new Wyatt plot, They've just been programmed to ignore pain, and may be wearing hillbilly body armor. Elite mobs, basically. Teddy explained this on the ride out, all but holding up a sign saying "You are now entering a challenge area, this content is intended for groups, not solo play" but the only newcomer that stuck around was the queer lady who had been running bounty quests with Teddy, so the encounter ended with her having to run off and gather a party of people that aren't complete noobs.
I liked her, by the way. She was doing a white hat run and having lots of fun with it, and the little touches were all just right. The bit where she put three rifle rounds center mass and then went "is he dead?" was just hilarious.
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My favorite part of the episode was a bit that was only implied, not even shown. Sarah got stranded in the dark ages. And then she goes and derails the most infamous witch hunt in american history. And how does she do this? Not by killing. But by walking into town and seducing the wives and daughters of the puritans like the immortal queen of air and darkness. Witch? I'll show you witchery! She made herself the focal point of the moral panic. Which is genius. Deranged, but genius.
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RE: the girl shutting down, I have a theory about that - it's a moral standards thing. (cutting from a reddit post of mine)
The company doesn't want to break immersion by having a world without children. They're necessary background color. Heck, they're probably occasional quest goals. "Get Timmy out of the well"
But the company also does not wish to become a destination for child-abuse tourism. That would be a pr nightmare.
So the kids break character if you're too mean to them. Shoot the town- still portraying a kid. Shoot the mother, still a kid. Point the gun at the kid? "robot mode"
They're set up to go go blank if stressed beyond normal levels (for west-world, so a shootout just makes them hide) If you target them, they don't cry, they don't suffer, they just go blank.
Moving into guessing territory: If you tell a kid to get lost, they do that too, in a way a real kid probably wouldn't. That interaction with the boss might not be special at all- it is a break from perfect immersion to facilitate guest rampages.
If you visit a ranch and want to bang the nice couple, you can tell their daughter to run along, and she just will.
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S03.E09: Beebo The God Of War
in Legends Of Tomorrow
· Edited by Izeinwinter
All hail the nuclear powered cruiseliner Avalance, now setting sail for all ports across time and space., She appears to have softened up considerably, I suspect this is some mixture of respect for putting a stop to Rip, and frustration that the bureau has just given up on fighting Darkh. I mean, she appears highly committed to maintaining causality.
The next episode is named Daddy Dharkest, so most likely the little girl is his daughter, and the demon either Darkh or Mallus.
..... I mean, it could also just be some random demon from hell Sara managed to make an impression ... or incision.. on while she was there.. Uhm. That might be why she is so impressively death proof. Neither hell nor heaven want anything to do with her.