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Yep, 2-parter. I figured something had to be going on when it was almost over and the case still wasn't put to bed. They wouldn't leave off with a mystery explosion that seemingly killed the main suspect. Plus they had quite the heavy hitters in guests stars like Stockard Channing and Jerry O'Connell. I still didn't think it was the son, even after the explosion and the note. Looks like someone framed him. Which should have been obvious when they found the bloody lab coat stuffed into the ventilation pipe. Who'd be stupid enough to do that, and then leave it there? Duh.
I agree. Everything started falling into place way too easily for it to really be the son. It definitely felt like a frameup to me. At the moment, I'm suspecting the lawyer. If she didn't do it or have it done, she knows who did - and it isn't the son. That's just too convenient.
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OK. The above thoughts were my initial reaction. After having had a bit of time to think about things, I will say this. My overall opinion doesn't change. I think the series would have been much stronger from a storytelling perspective had it ended at season with Audrey simply going into the barn and then (as someone earlier mentioned) having the epilogue we had. Throw in a brief scene of Howard and Audrey having some kind of discussion about her not having to wait 27 years to come back and you would have had (in my opinion) the perfect ending.
Yes, I realize that would have left Haven still dealing with the Troubles, but you would have had Audrey/Paige there to help deal with them so things would remain even on that point. To me, the biggest advantage to ending it that way would have been that the tenor/atmosphere of the show wouldn't have been ripped to shreds. As it stands, Audrey still had to be barned in the end, making the events of the last two/three seasons a bit pointless. Yes, I suppose Haven wound up in a better place when all was said and done. After all, no one has to deal with Troubles anymore. Unfortunately though, the route chosen to get there pretty much destroyed the show in the process. Personally, I'd rather have had an ending that kept the show and its characters intact.Having said that, I will say that I think the ending the writers wound up choosing fit with what the show had become. Personally, I would have preferred Duke and Dave to live. But given the circumstances they had chosen to write the characters into, I think it was the ending that the characters would have chosen. Had the show we ended up with been the show we started with, I'll admit that I probably would have been fairly satisfied with the ending we got. But it wasn't. The show we started out with was, in many ways, totally different from the one we were watching at the end.
It's that first show I feel was ill served by the ending that aired. That first show is the one I still mourn three years later. The second show? The one that just ended? Meh, it never really captured me. I kept watching, hoping the first one would reappear, but unfortunately it turned out to be weaker than Audrey. She was able to win her fight for survival against Mara, the intruder. Original Haven never did.-
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As far as I'm concerned, the show ended when Audrey went in the Barn at the end of S3.
You must be mistaken. Remember when Audrey tearfully said goodbye to Nathan and Duke, telling each one she loved them and the show finished after just three seasons when she entered the barn? What a pity there never was a season 4 or 5.
I think this is the best way to rewatch and enjoy the show. Watch the show up until then (it was a fun and relatively light watch until that point) and turn it off right after Audrey enters. Do what Phoebe's mom on Friends did with the movie Old Yeller -- just skip the bad stuff (for this shown aka seasons 4, 5, and 6.)
Yeah I know the last season was technically season 5b, but it aired a year after 5a. It really should have been season 6.
Nevertheless, on the basis of competent story-telling alone, the Stanton-McGuinness seasons have pretty much been a disaster.
This. So much this.
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Haven has been showing reruns of S1-3 and there are some really great episodes. What's going on now does not follow from what was happening then.
That's my biggest issue with the show now. It's so different now, I really don't expect answers for some of the S1-S3 mysteries now, the focus seems to have completely shifted.
This show is so far from where it started that I don't even know what to say anymore. I mean, they try to touch back on earlier story threads, mentioning the Colorado Kid and the Barn and all, but all it does is show how far off track they've become.
Yep. It's definitely not the same show. And the answers they're providing for what happened in the first half of the show don't match at all. Very poor storytelling - very poor indeed.
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This show has veered so far from where it started that it's basically unrecognizable.
Definitely. This is not the Haven that drew me in back in the beginning. That show was fun and interesting. This one? Not so much.
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Hugging it out ain't gonna do it for Reese. She needs some serious therapy. Losing both your imaginary friend and your twin?!? When most twins have a very intense bond? Holy moly.
I remember her saying something to Sully along the lines of "try explaining that your sister died because of the invisible man". So I think the girl did probably go through therapy at the time of her twin's death, which was probably part of her problem. Because of Sully's involvement, the therapy only served to make her more angry and bitter about the situation.
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And the fact that it's a man, not a woman, who picks Anna out of the lineup, supports my theory that it's a setup to begin with, and that Baxter is the woman who was blackmailed or threatened into "witnessing" the incident. Probably Bates' enemies, particularly the corrupt guard, are blackmailing former prisoner Baxter into giving false witness, and so they already know they want Anna. This isn't at all about who killed Green. Nobody probably really cares who killed him, but someone saw a chance here to get even with Bates. That's my guess.
I do agree, however, that Anna's arrest and the entire Green investigation will probably have something to do with someone from prison messing with Bates. Everything about her arrest smelled fishy, and not just "this storyline has gone on far too long and it is now blatantly obvious that Fellowes is flying by the seat of his pants with it" fishy, though I think that still applies. But who is messing with Bates? His cell mate? That one crooked guard that was in cahoots with the cell mate? Yaaaaaaawn. Just end it and write the spin-off where Anna becomes a newly single private investigator already.
This is the only way I can see of making any sense at all out of the fiasco. Supposing this is the way it winds up playing out (haven't read anything about what's been happening in season 6), it shouldn't have taken two seasons for that to be made clear. That should have been made clear this past season (season 5), not been left to speculation.
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Just finished binge watching seasons 1-5 on Amazon Prime, and I've just got to say - the Who Killed Green? storyline has to the dumbest storyline I've ever seen. (OK. I'm sure I've seen others that have been just as dumb over the years, but I just finished watching this one so it's fresh on my mind. LOL)
So let me see if I've got this straight. An unimportant man falls in front of a bus and dies. A year later, we find out that someone overheard a chance remark the man made just before he died and a decides to report it. Okaaaaay.
The police, who are apparently bored and tired of sitting around with nothing to do-- (Who knew a large city had so little crime to deal with in those days?)-- decide the comment (What are you doing here?) is probably an indication that the man was actually murdered. He wasn't accidentally bumped off the curb at the wrong time. He didn't accidentally stumble off the curb at the wrong time. Nope. Instead, he saw someone he recognized and asked them why they were there. Therefore, obviously, he must have been deliberately pushed in front of the bus. Really? (Nevermind how the person knows the comment came from the man who died. As far as I can remember, that was never explained. I was under the impression there was a crowd of people around when the accident/murder happened, so it seems to me the question could have come from any number of people.)Having decided they probably have a murder on their hands, the police proceed to embark on an amazingly long and apparently extremely thorough investigation into the situation. (I mean, if the King himself had been murdered, the investigation couldn't have taken more time and been examined more closely; could it?) Suddenly people - even though it's been somewhere between a year and two years- are remembering the strangers they saw around them on the street that day, strangers they talked to, strangers who came into their shops, etc. I served jury duty a couple of weeks ago; and even though I talked to some of the people who were there with me, I wouldn't recognize any of them today -- just two weeks later. Why? Because they were all strangers to me, and (as far as I know) I haven't seen any of them since. So can I have some of the memory pills those people must be taking? Please? I'd love to be able to remember things like they do.
All of this over the death of a (former) household servant? (Had he already been fired when he died?) I mean, it's not like the man's (former) employer was pushing for an investigation into his death. He barely seemed to register it had occurred. The whole situation is just so unbelievable - even for a TV show. I rolled my eyes so much I was sure my eyeballs were going to get stuck. In fact, I'm a bit surprised I can see anything other than the inside of my skull right now.-
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These were the important questions for me after S3 ended and the show just went in such a weird and unfulfilling direction.
I totally agree. The Haven we have now is not the Haven we started out with. From atmosphere to storyline, they're like two completely different shows. The first one drew me in. The second one? Not so much. The first one was a lot of fun and had a lot of intriguing, almost fresh possibilities to it. The second one is grim and dreary and feels like so many other shows that are out there. I really miss the show that drew me in.
Having said that, I did feel like this episode was a step in the right direction - back towards what it once was, at least atmospherically. I just wish they hadn't made some of the storyline decisions they made last season. There were so many other fresher, more interesting paths they could have taken - ones that would have fit the starting point so much better.
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Still not really sold on the new boss; still miss Frankie, the blonde detective; and wish they utilized Max more. But I am enjoying Billy and Meredith's partnership and (I may be in the minority on this) having Laura and Jake work together in the field. I think L&J work well together on that level. On a romantic level though? Maybe in a couple of more seasons, after a bit more time has passed. After all, people do sometimes reconcile after a breakup - even if adultery was involved. But I don't want them together romantically now. I think it's still way too soon for that. And I would be content if they never reconnected romantically either. I wouldn't have a problem with that at all.
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I'm having very mixed feelings about the season at the moment. Dystopian type backdrops are not my favorite type of setting for a show, and so far Haven isn't changing my mind on that. I understand the reasons for the changes plotline wise, but this isn't the kind of show I signed up for. I miss the old Haven.
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I was very very surprised that this show got picked up for a full season. I didn't think it was going to happen. I mean, this show is so light and airy and filled with charming characters that I didn't think it would last. I eagerly caught all the episodes when they came on at Hulu and I enjoyed everyone of them. Debra Messing is just wonderful on this show and I also happen to like the actor that played her ex-husband. I'm so very very happy that we have another season!
We'll be getting another season? Really? Yay! (Seriously, yay!)
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I'm loving this show so far. I like the fact that it's light and doesn't take itself too seriously. I wish the critics would judge it for what it is and attempts to be rather than what they think it should be attempting to be (in other words, heavier and more serious). Loved the closing scene with Laura and her dad. Excellently written and acted. A lot of love and history conveyed there.
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My opinion that's probably the most unpopular? From a storytelling perspective, I really think the series should have ended at the end of season 5 with "Swan Song" - minus the ending scene of Sam standing on the sidewalk. The John Winchester/YED storyline that the show had started out with had been dealt with. Sam had been allowed to correct and atone for his enormous mistake. Dean was free to make what he wanted of his future. To me it just felt like a bittersweet but solid ending to the series.
Obviously, that's not what happened. And what we've had since then - although I've enjoyed a lot of it - has been a confusing mess. There's been a glaring lack of continuity at times. A downward emotional spiral, both in the tone of the episodes and within the characters themselves. An erosion of the brothers' relationship. And storylines that seem to repeat themselves over and over and over and over and ..... It's been a bit like being stuck in Mystery Spot, just on a larger scale.I'm tired of this show doing crap like this because they think it will be "awesome" and "edgy", but they rarely actually develop it well enough to make it so.
I totally agree with this. Coherent, in-depth storyline/plot/character development really isn't the show's strong point. Not at all.
S02.E10: Episode 10
in Poldark (2015)
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I believe you can also stream the 1975 version at AcornTV if you have a subscription there.