[S14.E13: Game Day]

52 minutes ago, vivianspoetry said:

Regarding the nepotism with VK and (possibly) Meredith, the problem is there are no consequences for putting a few unqualified dancers on the field for personal reasons.  DCC is only competing against themselves.  If the Cowboys trot out Jerry Jones's son instead of Dak Prescott at QB on Sunday, it's going to be a major problem.  Businesses are competing with one another for profit, Broadway shows are competing for positive reviews, even high school and college cheer teams have national competitions.  That's not to say nepotism doesn't exist in those fields, but there is a lot more risk involved when putting individual ahead of the team.  Once the squad is announced, they dance as a sideshow to the football game and make appearances where they are virtually guaranteed to be a hit due to the nature of the appearances.  There are still little girls out there who will dream of becoming a DCC someday as long as the Cowboys exist.  Keeping Meredith on the squad or putting VK on show group isn't going to change that, so Kelli has nothing to lose by doing so.  She has the potential to upset the Jones family or her friend TK by excluding them.  It's frustrating for us who get caught up in the drama of the show, but in reality it's an easy decision to make.  

Edit: I should clarify that I don't mean to imply that VK was unqualified this year.  She absolutely deserved to be on the team this year, unlike last year when she had no business being in training camp.  

This makes a lot of sense to me. I do still think it's a disservice to a legacy because it creates unnecessary questioning of their abilities. VK was completely qualified this year and worked hard to get there over the last year, but by forcing her (and her mother) on us, there's a big group of us that dislikes her. But you're right - Kelli and company don't care. VK is family and this is a family operation from Jerry Jones on down. They will never run out of women who want to try out, so they can just chalk up the criticism to 'haters gonna hate'

[S14.E13: Game Day]

22 hours ago, BluegrassDCCFan said:

Reveal video shot @ The Star 

Finally watched it. It's a little confusing as to why some of them get more airtime than others. And why not give them all something of a closeup? I did find it interesting that Kat was put with Jalyn - two of the most striking women on the team. 

[S14.E13: Game Day]

6 hours ago, Bad Example said:

Meredith has bad hair. So do I, but I'm not a DCC.  

[S14.E13: Game Day]

6 hours ago, kerrieway said:

A++++ Victoria. I actually flipped a middle finger at the screen. The girl has not an ounce of humility. Instead of saying that last year was rough but she took the time to grow (like Lily did), she says she got beat up (by online fans as if some people didn't have good reason) and it was all worth it because Na-na na-na she made the team, eat it loser fans you're just jealous of my awesomeness! That being said, IMO she earned her spot on this year's team and yes, I still want to see less of her next year.

This made me think about something. I think that the team is doing a great disservice to the legacy candidates by making a big deal out of them. Legacy status anywhere - colleges, etc - is increasingly controversial. It always looks like you got in because your mom/dad is so and so. That's a terrible narrative for someone to have hanging over them, and it's a million times worse when Kelli and company builds a whole season(s) of a TV show around that woman. If they gave Victoria just a standard amount of air time and didn't focus on her, we would not hate her as much. She'd just be another of the dingbat/blonde/long leg variety that Kelli likes who is more than qualified to make the team. Instead, by focusing on Victoria (and her mother!) and their connections to DCC, we can't stand them. By focusing on legacies, Kelli is literally harming the very people she wants to promote. 

[2019 Auditions, Finals, and Training Camp Spoilers]

4 minutes ago, kerrieway said:

I said black women, Yuko, and whoever else is latina. For all I know that could be 10 women of color (as some like to say, I don't personally use WOC because I don't like lumping a bunch of women together just because they happen to be non-white but whatever). 10 women out of 36 would be proportionate to the US population which is like 67% white. 

But even if it wasn't proportionate to US pop, I really think DCC is pulling from whoever is trying out. Heck I'd love to see a bunch of pretty women of all backgrounds trying out for the squad but where are they? 

The Miami Dolphins squad is packed with lots of latinas and blacks and only a few white women because those are Miami's demographics. 

Uh, this is Texas we're talking about - Dallas in particular. If we go by demographics over a third of the team should be Latina. I actually don't think that they're consciously discriminating, though. I just think that they pay so little and don't seem very welcoming to diversity, so non-white dancers don't even apply. Not to mention that you have to sign up to sell your soul to CMT and the Dallas Cowboys organization so that they can follow you around with cameras your whole life. Who wants that when you can go to Broadway or tour with Hamilton? 

[S14.E12: Time Is Running Out]

1 hour ago, PhillyFan said:

Just an observation, but unless I missed a comment here or there, I can’t believe Kelli’s “I’m not playing favorites” comment went unmentioned here! (When she was watching Taylor but thought it was Victoria)

IKR?! 

[S14.E12: Time Is Running Out]

13 hours ago, ElectricBoogaloo said:

Haha, thank goodness they aren't quite to the level of his Mississippi-less tan!

My issue with Tina's behavior in the stands is that this is not about YOU, Tina. YOU are not here to perform so sit down and let the performers on the field dance instead of obnoxiously drawing attention to yourself and away from the performers. You can be proud and supportive of your daughter without standing up and dancing along in the audience.

EXACTLY. It's not that she's excited. She should be excited. I would be. I'm a mom who is crazy proud of her daughters. It's that this is supposed to be about her daughter's accomplishment not hers. Instead, she's doing the same damn dance reminding everyone she was a DCC. SO CRINGEY! 

[2019 Auditions, Finals, and Training Camp Spoilers]

14 minutes ago, AAT said:

What I found the most annoying about the last episode, is TK, and how immature she acts!!! I mean, who stands up and does the dance along with her daughter???? What an embarrassment. It just goes to show how being a DCC was the only thing in her life she actually accomplished, and she can't move past it. Now she's living through VK!! 

I don't know the woman, so I don't want to say it's the only thing she's ever accomplished because life is long and some of our best accomplishments are never known. Now stepping off my soap box, ITA that TK IS SO CRINGEY, providing enough second hand embarrassment for women every where in 2019. I totally GET being a damn proud mama, but sit in that seat in a stylish blazer and happily beam and clap. This is your daughter's day, not yours! 

[2019 Auditions, Finals, and Training Camp Spoilers]

21 hours ago, Pj3422 said:

Ok, so the first half hour, I was flipping back and forth between DCC:MTT. and RuPaul’s Drag Race UK. Did anyone count the awkward voiceovers that attempted to address the issues we’ve brought up in this forum? (And now I kinda wanna see Kat & Meredith lip sync FOR THEIR LIFE.)

OMG. A mashup of those two shows would be hilarious! But as @dariafan said, Kat would win because even if you don't think she's the best dancer she's entertaining and has a ton of charisma. Meredith would be awkward and boring. She's a beauty, but she's dull as dishwater.

[S14 E11: Picture Perfect]

Sometimes I'm a Kelli defender, but all of her unlikable qualities were on full display in this episode.

1. A favorite doesn't look good in the uniform? We'll make a new one! I'm sure there were some girls cut in years past over this issue who rolled their eyes.

2. Someone bombs their media stuff and has a tin ear? Let's just drag her over the coals rather than explain why that doesn't come off well.

3. Someone faints on the field? Oh God - obviously they're faking it and/or wasting our time.

4. "This has been a dramatic training camp with helicopter crashes, car crashes, and fainting on the field" -Whaaaat? How are these things connected at all. If I were Shaina, I would be pissed that Kelli was lumping a very personal tragedy with the other two. They dynamic there was just all weird. Maybe Kelli is still pissed that Shaina wasn't appropriately appreciative over the pastor special guest?

[S14 E11: Picture Perfect]

NOTE TO SELF after watching Victoria bungle the can opener looking like a spoiled fool on national television.

My kids are opening every can in this house for the rest of this year. 

[2019 Auditions, Finals, and Training Camp Spoilers]

3 hours ago, WaterSpirit said:

I'm catching up on posts...wanted to say thank you for posting this? is it possible to post all pics (if not already done)

I am absolutely SHOCKED that a TCC who did not any ANY support from the Group Leaders is on this team. If Kelli is so concerned about having a team without a toxic element, then Lisa should have been out, dance skill be damned. The lack of support speaks volumes, and there is clearly an issue with Lisa that has nothing to do with her dance skills. I know first hand the ripples of toxicity that can happen when you get someone who is ill intentioned on a well balanced team. 

and I read the lack of support for Meredith/Madeline as GL seeing the dance risk, not locker room risk.

Very unfortunate that Group Leaders only have impact when they are aligned with "upper management"

"As much as Kat struggles, only Denise Dicharry and Travis Wall cut her so I guess it makes a little more sense why she made it now."

I'm beginning to think that they've cut this show to create uncertainty around Kat when there shouldn't be any. All these people support her with those stickers. She must look better than what we're being shown. Last night, Kelli even said something like "I love watching Kat on the field". Did they create drama around her to make her more of a standout later when she's on the team? Same with Meredith (bonus for them she is a natural waterworks...). Anyway, they're both way more striking than most of the rest of the rookies. It's just super suspicious that these two are always hanging in the balance, but then not really...

And I thought most of the girls were lame at the media - and the girl who SWORE and got bleeped... OMG... why didn't she get pulled in to the office? Miss Prim and Miss Proper K and J have to be called ma'am and tear into a girl for crying in the bathroom but they let it slide that someone cursed in a media roleplay. WTF?

[2019 Auditions, Finals, and Training Camp Spoilers]

19 minutes ago, dbell1 said:

I’m glad Sam isn’t ever trying out for the team. No clue why she’s always being shredded for looking normal and having a great life outside of the Star.

+1 I think it's a great she's striking out on her own (and honestly to Kelli's credit - Kelli seems to love and encourage her daughter to be herself not Kelli 2.0) All I know about Sam is her instagram, and the worst thing I can say about her is she's BFFs with Victoria and hasn't seemed to convince tell her friend that she needs to take the makeup, lashes, teeth, hair color down a notch. 

[2019 Auditions, Finals, and Training Camp Spoilers]

5 hours ago, omgtv said:

I wish DCC would change their standards. I wish the standard would be that if you need to have an eating disorder and be 20lbs below your healthy weight, then they will size up the shorts!  When I see a muffin top, I don't see a problem with the woman, I see a problem with the uniforms. 

Lose weight or lose your job is a pretty standard rule for professional dancers - Broadway, Ballet, etc. I know it's hard to hear and see on TV when they harsh on a woman's weight, but that's what directors are thinking and saying to each other in dance auditions across the spectrum. The funny thing for me is that I do Bikram yoga and these hot young (not me) Bikram instructors have fierce, zero fat bodies, but often abs are so developed they have a curve to their tummy. When you can count some of the DCC women's ribs, you know they've lost weight for flat stomach, but they have don't have a great core.

[2019 Auditions, Finals, and Training Camp Spoilers]

5 hours ago, ElenaFR said:

Lived in South Texas, San Antonio, Austin and Lubbock and have never been asked about religion/church from neighbors but when I was stationed in AL, found that to be true from all the locals.  More likey to be asked where we went to school and place of occupation. 

Watching the episode again and still annoyed with the pastor segment. Insensitive. Have a private check in with her and not expect her to grieve for the camera. 

Regardless of the what church do you go to questions, there's no denying that religion is a huge part of Texas culture - Dallas in particular. I grew up in Irving and still have family there. When I go home to visit, I'm always reminded about how different it is from the rest of the country. Bringing your pastor to work to counsel your employees would set off alarm bells at 99% of other workplaces but somehow for the Cowboys organization everybody says - great! let's do it! FWIW, I thought the pastor had a good tone for his remarks and I was just impressed that Kelli goes to a small, diverse parish rather than a mega church with baristas. 

[S14.E09: Field Ready]

Why did Kelli feel free to bring her pastor to a work related event and force her employees to listen to the guy? BECAUSE TEXAS, Y'ALL! That would never happen where I live now, but watching the show I was transported back to my homeland of Texas and I didn't even think twice. NGL, I looked him up immediately and was impressed that he leads a small parish. I would expect Kelli to go to a megachurch with a Bible Bowl rivaling ATT Stadium. So I give her props for bringing a lesser known voice onto the camera.

[S14.E08: Who's Got the Magic]

I'm a long-time casual fan of the show (but lifelong Cowboys football fan tho - how bout them pokes?!). Anyway, one thing that is clear is that there are a number of women on the team who are GREAT dancers, but their faces are meh at best (despite all the dye, makeup, and lashes which sometimes just makes them look worse). In order to make up for those women, K&J (K in particular) hangs on to recruiting the truly beautiful women who aren't the best dancers. Also, with regard to Kat - TBH - the team is looking AWFULLY white this year. They can say all they want about how DCC is a meritocracy (cough, cough, Victoria aside), but you can't have an almost all white cheerleader squad for the NFL. It looks weird, and frankly, it's wrong. It's not like there aren't talented African-American dancers in this world... Maybe if DCC paid more and treated people better they would have a more diverse candidate pool.