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  1. 19 hours ago, Tuxcat said:

     I fully believe that as s show group veteran she didn't just suddenly become 'not good enough.' They aired only a few "not looking herself moments" - all were with the one funky Evan Miller piece. Slow down those moments and you notice so many of the girls actually messing it up. They had just learned that dance. A few times zoomed in - it was Kat messing up next to her but the show said it was Hannah. 

    Was she stressed? yes. Did her mental health get taxed? Of course! Can a global pandemic be devastating for someone with anxiety and depression? YES! But her stress was born from compassion and empathy for others safety as well. And her "disinterested" stance was likely from her 'interest' in safety. She was following protocols while others were completely abandoning them.

    Even with all of this - SHE STILL DID Her JOB

    She was given three show group stickers so she clearly wasn't awful. In every "board" that's been shown except the very first she has been ABOVE the top 36 line. 

    Are you telling me her cut came down to a dance off in which Hannah, a three year vet,  a show group vet  (who appeared to be strong in this episode at least) - justifies this cut? A cut that occurred in one short week - during a global pandemic - during the Texas surge - in unsafe conditions for the purposes of making a TV show? 

    No, because even if she was less than herself - even if that is true - you give the benefit of the doubt here to the vets. Always. They've proven themselves able to perform! The rookies still on the line (which should include Sydney in my opinion) still need "teaching" (according to Judy), still need practice, still need time - They can come back next year. They aren't as invested in this process. The benefit of the doubt should go to the vets.  

    But that didn't happen because the FIX is in! They knew well before camp started who they'd cut.  

    The show is USING the angle "she's mentally weak" -- which of course IS NOT THE CASE and a disservice to women who suffer, and to those who persevere. Hannah said she's proof that with the right tools, resiliency is possible. 

    I might agree with you about giving a vet the benefit of the doubt except for the fact that this year training camp was their try out.  Vets with the DCC must try out every year, and vets have been cut.  This year there were no try-outs, and all vets were invited to TC.  It was clear that they would be evaluated in TC and cut if need be.  

    People keep saying COVID had her stressed out, and TC was not safe.  Well then why was she even there?  If you have that much anxiety about COVID, stay home.  Ask for a chance to come back next year at solos because your anxiety can't take it.  You don't show up and then complain about it.  

    Honestly they owe her nothing.  Unless the policy is a vet has a spot until she leaves once it's earned, then cutting a vet is not out of line.  It's not like she was the only vet cut.  It's just my opinion, but I'm certainly entitled to it.  

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  2. On 12/24/2020 at 4:20 AM, perrie97 said:

    Hannah didn’t show up to work “mentally unprepared”, she was suffering distress beyond her control and likely managed it best as she could.  She wasnt simply “stressed out”- she’s been open about her anxiety and depression. A pandemic is prime time for such issues to flare up.  dancing was clearly something she was looking forward to; she may have thought it would help her mental state. it’s actually legally discrimination to fire someone based on mental illness. If it’s affecting someone’s work then the right thing to do would be offer them to take leave and return when they’re well, as many professional sport teams do rather than firing them. After all, supporting the wellbeing of ones staff certainly is part of Kelli’s/any boss’ job. However in Hannah’s case it didn’t massively affect her performance- dancing was up to par and far better than some of those still on the team, so the cut seems unfair. 

    As many have pointed out, the bubble was pointless since no one had to isolate for 2 weeks prior to entering. Even with testing before entering, If someone picked up COVID 2 nights before TC at a gathering, a COVID test could show up negative until they had developed symptoms. They would be infectious for at least a portion if not all  of TC, rendering the bubble useless. 
     

    So are you actually suggesting they should have held Hannah's spot and cut someone who's game ready just because of her mental illness?  Also you should realize that the DCC are not employees unlike the players you cited.  They're independent contractors, and the worker rules do not apply to them.  If I'm Kelli, I want to keep the 36 strongest girls -- physically and mentally.  If they wanted to be charitable, they would not have cut Brennan but instead given her a chance to heal.  That's not how this situation works.  There are 36 spots, and I would be bitter AF if I got cut and then a spot was held for someone who was not mentally ready to be on the field when I was.  There's a chance she may not have been ready all season, and that would mean the cut would be for nothing.  The real lesson here is life isn't always fair.  Hannah (and Brennan as well) learned this in training camp.  Brennan didn't go out and bad mouth the organization after though.  Hannah did.  That was not professional, and looked like she was pitching a fit the same way my 10 year old niece does when I won't buy her Roblox Dollars.  That's not a good look for her.  

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  3. 9 hours ago, MeeMee2 said:

    Ya know if Hannah has showed up to TC with a muffin top, bad attitude, arrogant jeans, and had to watch her rookies to remember dances...then sure, she has to go. But that's not what this situation was.  I have the same issues Hannah has and like many out there during this pandemic, my mental health has taken a beating. Kelli loves to talk on and on about the DCC sisterhood and how invested they are in these girls. How great would it of been if Kelli showed Hannah a little empathy, loyalty, and understanding? Not as her boss, but as a person who's known Hannah for years. Kelli has seen Hannah's character as a premier veteran and also the years she kept coming back over and over to audition for the DCC. Kelli was more emotional and heartbroken over freaking Anabelle, who she JUST met like a few days earlier...🙄

    That's not Kelli's job though.  Her job is to field the best 36 girls from the try outs and training camp.  Hannah showed up to work mentally unprepared.  When you do that, there's always someone who is hungry enough to take your spot.  That's real life.  It's not Kelli's job to be therir friend or their mother.  She needs that emotional distance.  

    When she asked Judy about whether veterans should be cut, I was screaming at my TV OF COURSE!  Vets knew this was their tryout for the 2020 season.  Vets aren't safe in try outs, and they shouldn't be here.  This isn't about loyalty.  They've never had a problem cutting vets who under performed before.  Why should they now?  

    And to read Hannah's response, I'm not sorry they did cut her.  I don't know how she can say the organization had no regard for their safety.  They put them in a bubble for goodness sakes.  If she felt it was unsafe, then she should not have gone.  I get that she was stressed out, but come on!  It all came off as sour grapes to me.  

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  4. 23 hours ago, ElectricBoogaloo said:

    They could have just as easily brought in a non-religious motivational speaker to give them a pep talk/lean on your sisters speech. I just find it unnecessary to bring in a pastor to a DCC rehearsal to give that kind of little talk.

    This is Texas though!  Religion and football are kings in that state.  Unless you're familiar with the South, you might think it's odd or unnecessary, but I assure you it's totally normal in those parts.  

  5. 37 minutes ago, doodlebug said:

    I think the fact that Shannen didn’t come aboard until late in the process is probably the biggest factor in her lack of screentime and not any deliberate attempt to marginalize her.

    Shannen, like the rest, was a producer and I believe she had major input into how she would be portrayed. As we’ve talked about before; she specifically stated she did not want her marriage or cancer history used. If she didn’t want her personal life on the show, she was going to limit what sorts of stories she could do.  

    I personally think that Shannen herself chose to go the quirky, comic relief route instead of the soap opera plots the others got.  So, we saw her saving animals, meditating and otherwise being just a little different from the rest. I also think the random eating was meant to be part of that quirky persona she was presenting.

    When Shannen came aboard, nothing had been done yet though.  They didn't have a pilot.  They hadn't filmed a scene.  In fact they fired their writers after she came on board.  It isn't like they filmed half of it and then she came on board.  In episode 2 I believe it was, we waited until after the final commercial break to even see her.  That's why I said she was marginalized.  We also got to see everyone else's real life but not hers.  I am a big fan of hers so I was very disappointed in how they chose to use her.  And yes she was a producer, but all of them were.  This was obviously Jennie and Tori's baby, and they chose to feature some more than others.  I just think Shannen deserved better.  

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  6. On 6/7/2019 at 6:08 PM, preeya said:

    Just watched S03E01. Totally revamped from the old network version.

    Goose from Top Gun is Kirkman's Chief of Staff.

    I'm sure he's delighted to be called "Goose fro 'Top Gun'" after 33 years......smh

    I think he got the part because the former ER showrunner took over.  I thought Anthony was fire in the role.  He plays badass really well.  We need more from him.  I think he's one of the most underappreciated actors in Hollywood.  

    I'm sad it got canceled again.  However I'm not surprised.  Some people were put off by the language.  Well you can bet these Washington insiders don't talk like Sunday School teachers when the cameras aren't on them.  I think it's actually very realistic to show the language.  People need to join reality.  

  7. 19 hours ago, ethankoo said:

    The cliffhanger was kind of lame.  The show is picked up so the pilot must have been good, so why are they going to reshoot the whole thing, especially when Christine said Fox has no money?  Then she said they don't have enough money to bring all of them back.  How does that happen?  The whole thing at the end makes no sense.  The easy resolution would be to cut Shannen's salary since she got paid double. 

    I was disappointed that we didn't see any of the actual pilot that they filmed.  I thought that last act with Brenda in bed was going to be it but when Brandon turned to her I knew it was fake.  

    Did anyone notice that Shannen's major scenes are all with Brian?  

    Shannen's saying Kelly was a slut was hilarious.  I still remember Brenda's line: "If it walks like a duck and looks like a duck..." 

    I think they left that as a way to explain Shannen's absence if she decided not to do a season 2 if there was one.  She's said she feels like this was a one and done thing for her.  It makes sense as underutilized as she was, especially in the first three episodes.  Side note:  I got kicked out of a BH90210 group on Facebook for saying they were marginalizing Shannen so I hope this doesn't get me blacklisted here.  I do feel like Shannen was marginalized because we barely saw her, especially in the first 3 episodes.  I also don't get the whole eating thing.  I don't recall any eating disorder rumors with her back in the 90's that might make her want to be eating.  I do think they marginalized her because they knew she was only there to honor Luke and not because she really wanted or needed to be  And I think the cutting one was their easy way to explain her absence if it did happen.  Just my 2 cents.  

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  8. On 9/11/2019 at 7:38 PM, TenaciousWarrior said:

    I laughed at the fantasy sequence Shannen had of her and Jason in bed, as “Brandon and Brenda”. After she got the feedback that they had sexual chemistry. 😂😂😂

    Actually that goes back to the original show.  The directors constantly told Shannen she was looking at Jason like she wanted to banInsert other media g him not like he was her brother.  She admitted she was attracted to Jason back in the beginning.  This was all a nod to that.  

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  9. 16 hours ago, Ssaallluuu said:

    I completely agree. I was wondering how anyone could afford to move to a new city. Without a job lined up. Sign a lease. Pay for living expenses and essentially work for free for at least the full training camp. Because to be honest the majority of them need to practice during the day to be able to make it it seems.

    I BELIEVE there is an apartment complex that works closely with DCC to help get the TCC set up temporarily and will let them go if it doesn't work out.  There used to be for sure because they all moved into the same place for the most part.  Interestingly enough, they all used to have roommates and now most seem not to.  

    We do know some have jobs because we've seen it before.  I read elsewhere that many teach dance classes to stay afloat.  I know Jinelle did this.  It's interesting to compare today to those 1970's and 1980's DCC TV movies.  Back in the day there was no TC and you had to have a job or be married to be a DCC because you were only paid for games and appearances (like when they were on The Love Boat).  Kelli really made this a big thing and has made a fortune on it.  Good for her!

    Gina Marie reminds me of the teenager from New Jersey a few seasons back.  They held her hand way too long in TC and it ended up crushing her when she was cut.  They need to cut GM sooner rather than later.  She's not in the league of those girls who were pom captains in college and dancers with other teams.  They're so looking or another Lacey story, and she's not it.  

    I think Kat COULD end up like KaShara.  Remember her first day at TC and she wore the wrong uniform?  I couldn't stand her that year.  It's hard to believe that hot mess made it to the point of the triangle.  I think they want to tell that story of the bottom 5 girl making the team so it could be her.  It's too soon to tell.  

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  10. 9 hours ago, go4luca said:

    Here's a small clip of Gina's we didn't get to see.  I know they can't show everyone but I was hoping to see Gina's.

    IMO Gina is the best one out there.  She's also coming off more likable now.  If you remember Kelli and Judy were concerned about her because she came off stuck up when she was first in TC.  Now she's point of the triangle material for me.  I love to watch this girl perform.  

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  11. 10 hours ago, Route66 said:

    Did anyone else think a lot of the choreography looked identical? It seemed like every single girl did that leap/turn with bent leg; arial; horizontal split with hair toss. Either they're all using the same choreographer or the show agrees to feature only Michelle Keys or whoever's choreo it is.

    All the money spent on those DCC prep classes is probably showing up in the auditions  If you have a half dozen girls taking the same prep class, I'm sure it's going to come out with all their choreography looking the same or at least similar.  The only way to avoid it is to hire someone to teach you who doesn't teach other girls.  

  12. 11 hours ago, scorpio1031 said:

    And usually they are in your home state:)

    Who says they have to be in your home state?  My niece is a competitive swimmer.  I live in California where the best swim coaches are.  My niece lives in the Southeast, and her coaches are great but they've not coached Olympians like the ones here have  You can bet if there's a chance to get her coaching here when she visits, I'm going to take it so she gets better.  If Victoria's family has access to a good coach in a different state, then why hate on them for taking advantage of the resources they have?  Maybe Gina turned them on to someone.  There's no shame in it.  The hate for this girl is scary sad.  She can't help who her family is and how many connections they have.  She has a dream and is just trying to pursue it.  It's obvious they're not playing favorites or she'd have been on the team last year.  And to think people DM'ed her hateful things is just disgusting.  You don't have to like someone but don't be mad when they take advantage of opportunities.  

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  13. 21 minutes ago, ElenaFR said:

    At one point I thought Kitty was funny and full of shock value, but over the years (two kids later), I have found her edit less humourous and just plain mean. I wouldn't tolerate my daughters to treat others with such disregard.  Kitty change with the times! Please offer real critiques without the put downs. 

    If Kitty was a mean and nasty woman, she wouldn't have stayed all night with the TCC a couple of seasons back to help her rework her costume and routine the night before the solo because it was so bad.  She's playing a character.  For many she makes the show, me included.  

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  14. On 8/14/2019 at 8:37 PM, Steph J said:

    Not that it really matters, but why does Ian have to go so far out of his way to prove that his wife is cheating? 5 other people saw her doing it via accidental face time and could swear Affidavits about what they saw.

    I think maybe it's because those are people who are friends of his so they might lie for him.  I think he needs concrete proof so it's indisputable  

     

    On 8/15/2019 at 10:14 AM, Chaos Theory said:

    If the mandatory group therapy idea that Tori/Gabrielle floated actually happens that ought to be a hoot and a half.

    It's going to happen and a familiar face will be leading it.  I saw it in previews, but I won't spoil it here.  

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  15. 10 hours ago, Peanutflutter33 said:

    Victoria won me over tonight. Her solo was beautiful. I literally said “wow” after her first few steps. 

    My other “wows” were veterans Rachel W. and Hannah. 

    I’m already tired of Kat; she gets way too much camera time. She should not have made it. Terrible solo and kick line. 

    What happened?

    I agree on Victoria.  She's rally maturing and coming into her own.  She's definitely better than Dayton and seems to want it more.  So glad Dayton finally let this one go because it was obvious it was mommy driving that bus and not her.  

    To me Kat is the new Meagan Flaherty. (RIP).  She was the center of the show season 1 and got cut late.  I can see the same thing happening to Kat.  They wanted to like Meagan so much because of her look (she looked like Julia Roberts for all of you who weren't around 13 years ago).  At the end of the day, she couldn't do the choreography so she was cut.  She was cut a second time a couple of seasons later after making it to TC  I see some of the same parallels here, and I don't think they've had that story in a while where they want a girl so desperately because her look fills a void but the girl just can't make it work.  I don't spoil things if I can help it so I'm excited to see how it plays out.  

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  16. 4 hours ago, Pinknblue said:

    So glad there was no Miss Katty segment.

    After last year I am done with her. She’s not “direct”; she’s just full out mean, spiteful and unfair.

    I don't see Kitty like this  I think she's just saying what she does for shock value.  I'd liken her to Simon Cowell. Just curious - are you a millennial or a gen x'er?  I'm Gen X and I think she's a lot like a normal coach or critic.  I find her hysterical.  However I have heard millennial say she's mean and awful.  I'm wondering if it's a generational thing or what.  

    7 hours ago, PrincessLeia said:

    Texas is the Lone Star State, so the Star symbolizes that the Cowboys are Texas’ team. She also could’ve gone on about how the Star represents decades of tradition... five super bowls, more NFC titles than I can count, and the world class organization that is the Dallas Cowboys. But ultimately her answer was correct... the Star is the symbol of the Dallas Cowboys. 😂

    See I think I would have gone deeper.  I would have said "the star is a symbol of hard work and perseverance.  When you first come into training camp as a rookie, all you want to do is earn that star, and you give your blood, sweat, and tears to wear it.  My star represents my hard work to become a DCC and the pride I have in setting a goal for myself and achieving it.  So many women don't get the privilege, and I'm grateful to be one of the few who is blessed with the honor of having it."  The judges would have eaten that ish up.  

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