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9 hours ago, Virtual said:
It took me a week to reel from that finale! I really liked the outcome for Shaun. He got his job back, Dr. Han was fired (though the reason of sentimental value from Andrews was wrong; he needed to be fired for making too many detrimental decisions that would eventually destroy the dynamic that makes St. Bonaventure a successful hospital, plus he was unprofessional in not showing up to his welcome brunch when he was first hired), and he asked out Carly and got a yes! Very happy about that; I always viewed her as someone who would be a really really good friend to Shaun given that she knows how to talk to him and seems to understand what he goes through daily.
Absolutely agree. She gets Shaun. "Not better"...oh Shaun.
9 hours ago, Virtual said:As much as I also like Lea, I don't think she is interested in Shaun that way, or at least she hasn't given any vibes this season that she is. In Season 1 she gave off a few vibes, but they've gone away.
I never liked that. It felt painful for me given I have a son on the spectrum and it felt like the writers gaslit him. It felt false her giving out sexual vibes and then reneging
9 hours ago, Virtual said:Am I going to go into another season side-eying Reznick? She turned around and seemed to be doing better with just focusing on the patients and not competing with fellow doctors. But these last two episodes, we saw some of the old Reznick, as she dropped a few comments on doing what it took to nose ahead of the others. Hopefully for the most part, she keeps the character development she made and doesn't go back to solely competing like in Season 1. Speaking of development...
Yeah pretty erratic their writing of her. A good foil for Shaun but pretty inconsistent
9 hours ago, Virtual said:I've seen comments, some here and some on YouTube videos of this show, that people were surprised that Dr. Andrews stood up for Shaun. I'm not so surprised, though. You could see as Season 1 went on that Andrews gained respect for Shaun and his abilities. He liked Shaun enough to assist him in the mingling at the big gala last season, and he gave Shaun a chance to improve his communication skills at the start of the season. Dr. Han would have just left Shaun hanging in both situations, and used it to claim that Shaun didn't belong in Surgery (it was mostly the way he went about that that bothered me more than the fact that he did it; he used things that weren't that big of a deal for his rationale, like Shaun telling that mother bad news in what caused her baby's problems).
Agreed. He could have fired Shaun at the end of Series 1 but he just gave him a dressing down for his communication. Andrews was a true mensch at the gala. And he continuously rags on Han about Shaun's manifest abilities (he saved another life)...Seems to me it's implied he has been keeping more than a weather eye on Shaun. Shore has said Andrews will "factor" in Season 3. Does that mean Andrews will lose his job saving Shaun? That's quite the redemptive arc.
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On 3/14/2019 at 7:43 AM, jhlipton said:
This is immaterial. I can say (and shout and stamp my feet) "I am an astronaut -- it is the core of my being!!!" It doesn't make me one. Shaun's sense of entitlement is that just because he wants (or even needs) to be a surgeon doesn't mean that he gets to be one. His failure to even TRY to compromise with Han -- instead of repeating the non-argument of "I am a surgeon!" -- just reinforced Han's opinion.
But I am repeating myself, so this is my last post on the subject.
I think the bigger gaffe is that not one of the Board said "Publish and be damned". And asked if Han would go on record about releasing any embarrassing information bout the Board.
In the same way Neil Armstrong could say "I am an Astronaut". Because after 6 years of training and nailing surgery after surgery and saving many lives he IS a surgeon. It's not a job. It is a calling. And when it is the equivalent to the civil rights "I am a Man" I believe he is asserting - in his own way - his dignity. It's not child-like petulance. It's from a man pushed to the edge who has been manipulated into a position unfairly.
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16 hours ago, vibeology said:
Shaun again refuses to seek help for any sort of serious problem, like being kicked in the ribs and it nearly kills him and almost killed that other patient. Coming into the ER and getting treatment would have been the right choice but Shaun for whatever reason is always against getting help. I'm glad Shaun ended up healthy but getting there sucked because it shows that Shaun is still unwilling to show weakness or seek out help.
Then Andrews just decides that he wants to hire Shaun back? No one in the board meeting is a lawyer and brings up discrimination? Han argues that Shaun was fired for being unprofessional but neither Glassman or Andrews point out that he was transferred first for being autistic? Ultimately Shaun's problem is solved without him doing anything but repeat "I'm a surgeon" over and over. Awful. Shaun was passive throughout this storyline about him overcoming obstacles. Hell, at one point Glassman referred to him as an "inspiration" which is so close to disability inspiration porn and such a wrong note in a plotline about Shaun facing discrimination. Glad he got his job back but it sucks that he had no agency.
Glassman and Debbi is the one plot I hate, Hate, HATE! She put up boundaries and Glassman trampled all over them, using his recent cancer as a cudgel to make her feel guilty. They've been on a couple of dates and he wants to marry her? It was gross the way he kept pushing her and showing up at her work and home to pester her. And that he was rewarded with her saying yes? Gross! Gross! It reaffirms that a no is just a yes waiting to happen and that women can be won over if you just bug them enough. Awful storyline.
I loved it and frankly I needed there to be no cliffhanger. I found the prior three episodes incredibly painful to watch. Why did Shaun say nothing? I think it was PTSD from the same thing happening to him as a child. Both his father and school bullies. I don't think it was a loss of agency. I think he just didn't want to think about it. Kick a good man when he is down eh? Which is why he goes to the room of his attacker looking for answers. Han again made a bunch of assumptions on Shaun's motivations here because he doesn't know him.
Agreed re: discrimination. I think they deliberately didn't go there as a dramatic device. I think that paints the wrong picture to #actuallyautistic adults. On passivity he tried and tried to be an exemplary doctor and it got him nowhere with a man who was never going to listen anyway. He also has a long way to travel and I think that's Shore's point.
Debbie wanted more first and he just wanted a fling - then he turned it around mentally. She showed up at his house after he took the first No for an answer. Marry in haste? As you get older you realize that life is very very short. It's not that implausible.
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9 hours ago, jhlipton said:
I'm with Han -- Shaun lost any lawsuit he may have had by the breakdown in Han's office. He could have written a report on why a compromise with him being largely in Pathology (where his diagnostic skills work best), with the occasional surgical consult, where his visual skills work best, with one copy to Han and one copy to Andrews (who has the power to override ANY decision by Han).
Shaun was transferred not based on his current assessment but due to what challenges he might have in the future. That is a blatant breach of the ADA. Period. Any lawsuit would add a request for increased damages due to mental destabilization from said breach. It's effectively saying that a bullied person who reacts emotionally to being bullied is being over-emotional and that premise is gaslighting. When he is saying "I am a surgeon" it resonates with "I am a man". Han is essentially withdrawing Shaun's agency. Being a surgeon is the core of his identity and surgical residents are only transferred or wash out due to specific errors not what they might be - albeit Han makes a better point of it in the last episode. We know from Trampoline that Han knew an autie personally so he damned well knew what he was doing putting up the music and he admits to having tested Shaun. He will brook no counter-evidence. Surgeons are also scientists and that kind of attitude is toxic.
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1 hour ago, mojito said:
He's lucky to have a job because Andrews didn't want to hire him and Glassman had to go out on a limb to get him hired.
But you said he was lucky because he was given an alternate. But that bouncing was based on one direct interaction with a man who had effectively made his mind up prior and had just witnessed not one but two examples of Shaun particular skillset that saved a newborn baby's life. Shaun wasn't over-emotional when he got illegally bounced. He became emotional - and very likely clinically depressed - after repeatedly showing his worth and being knocked back. And Melendez likened him to Audrey Lim as a 2nd year resident nailing surgery after surgery getting ready to be an exceptional surgeon. The hospital was lucky to have him and recognized that over time in the first series.
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18 minutes ago, Miles said:
He's not lucky. He is one of the best. Certainly the best resident we've seen on this show. He has proven that time and again. That is why Glassman was so confident in pushing for him.
If Shaun was lucky to get this job then Neil Armstrong was lucky to be the first man on the moon. After all there were many astronauts who could have done the job. I'm sure you would tell him, that he didn't earn his place there through hard work,, right?
Agreed. Shaun definitely has the right stuff. No doubt in later episodes there will be other hospitals looking to hire him away from the hospital. "Your the one that is making the old guard nervous". "Wh-hy would people be nervous of me?". "You have a gift and surgeons judge themselves among their peers. Right now you are ahead". Or words to that effect. In the part 2 of the Islands episode last season. This is all hiding in plain sight. A second year resident being pulled in to consult on a complicated operation. "He has a special talent for visualizing complex anatomy". Those who know him know his worth. Han hasn't even tried or having tried too late is too invested in his original decision. Or it's part of a deal to make the medical board go away. He even starts saying patronizingly that they could build Shaun up over time. How easy would it be for anyone to communicate the complex pictures constantly being created in that amazing mind? He is a great surgeon because of his autism not in spite of it. That's where Han gets it consistently wrong.
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2 minutes ago, rmontro said:
I'm not going anywhere with it, just stating a fact. Many autistic people are not high functioning enough to hold down a job but are actually gravely disabled. Those are not simply cases of being held back by the attitude and misunderstandings of neurotypicals. Obviously Shaun is very high functioning.
My point is that "very high functioning" doesn't mean doesn't need accommodation. And that the label is often used to allow for discrimination because they aren't "that" autistic. The effort that "high functioning" autistics have to make to just fit in society is often severely underplayed. http://www.thinkingautismguide.com/2016/07/the-effects-of-stigmatizing-language-on.html In fact the life expectancy of autistic adults is significantly lower than NTs due to the high incidence of suicide.
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23 minutes ago, rmontro said:
I agree that Shaun is being discriminated against, but there are a lot of autistic people out there who are nowhere near as high functioning as he is, but actually are gravely disabled.
I'm not sure where you are going with this. Are you saying that levels of discrimination are OK for "high functioning" or at least less bad and that the ADA is there for those who are "low functioning"? The show is actually being quite nuanced in this and it's making the argument against that very supposition. A "high functioning" autistic man with an IQ of 165 (such as a Shaun) may not be able to work or find it very difficult due to having very high levels of anxiety, a common problem in many autistic people. In that case an appropriate accommodation is eg. no music in the OR and a style of questioning that is direct and fact-based plus some support on interpersonal skills. Is a person who can't speak and is autistic "low functioning" and therefore deserves stronger protection under the ADA? Quite a few autistics with apraxia of speech have PhDs and their accommodation is to have a computer communication system. It's really murky and best left to the established law of the land IMHO. Because Shaun is definitively not coping right now. He is being pulled down into an abyss or at least into the Muddy Waters of the wonderful LP song at the end of episode 16. That should not have been allowed to happen if the hospital were doing its job properly and if any harm comes to Shaun they very likely would be massively liable for any of the consequences.
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On 3/7/2019 at 8:52 AM, rmontro said:
So it sounds like any legal issues are strictly linked to disability then.
Interesting that Shaun has more protections than a normal person would, if that normal person wasn't very good at communicating.
Normal is an interesting word. What is normal to an autistic person may not be normal to you. Who is right and who is wrong? IMHO the vast majority of problems for non-neurotypicals is the attitude and misunderstanding of NTs. All that is being asked are reasonable accommodations that are being afforded by law. The little things like an awareness of sensory sensitivities and that there may be communication difficulties that do not reflect a world of words and imagination inside. In fact that would seem to the point of choosing the protagonist on the Good Doctor. Accommodations are there to level the playing field. It's not a special advantage taken. (And in any case Shaun has shown himself to be an exceptional resident). Other minorities are afforded the same right to be treated with dignity and respect too. The ADA clearly protects disabled people from discrimination. And Shaun is most definitely being discriminated against.
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On 3/6/2019 at 12:57 PM, Lady Calypso said:
So, looking at those photos, and then looking at the promo again, I feel like the part where Shaun's in the hospital bed is potentially not even real. It seems like this:
takes place after the bar fight. It looks like Shaun's fine in the other pictures, and this guy is worse off (looks like he might have hit his head, possibly due to Shaun pushing him back). He looks just fine here, and it seems like this is after the fight (it looks like he's sitting in an ambulance):
So, from what I gather, the shot of Shaun in the hospital bed from the promo is a fake-out. I can't fully decide when the barfight will happen in the episode. My thoughts:
- The scene where Carly tells Shaun that he doesn't work there anymore is near the beginning of the episode
- It looks like Shaun/Claire's talk is before the bar fight since he's wearing the same clothes and the setting looks like it takes place during the day. However, the bar scene isn't necessarily at night so the bar fight could happen first and then Claire/Shaun talk later on
- It seems like Shaun is relatively fine. Not sure where the promo shot of him in the hospital bed fits in, but I'm pretty sure it's a fakeout. They wouldn't typically put that in a promo if it was actually very important.
- The Shaun/Lea scene likely is a cliffhanger or at least near the end of the episode. With how Lea has acted toward Shaun all season, she should theoretically turn him down
I don't know why they even bothered to tease a serious injury for Shaun if it looks like he doesn't even need any treatment (unless I'm wrong about the photo's timeline). It just pisses me off more that Lea/Shaun are likely to be the cliffhanger here and this finale might be centered more about Shaun's feelings for his roommate who has shown no romantic feelings toward him this season.
I think they may be going there. The place that any parent of an autistic kid most fears. That the suicide rate of autistic adults is sky high. I think it's a bait and switch. If you look at the bar room it looks like the antagonist needs help and Shaun looks after him. Still the good man and the good doctor. The scene with Shaun in bed may be related to self-harm which comes later which is the cliffhanger. I hope that's not what is happening but I fear it is. That would be *exactly* the kind of thing David Shore would do. Subvert the whole premise of the series. You take an abused fostered autistic man with barely a support mechanism (his brother having died in front of him) out of the country, make him jump through hoops due to prejudice, give and then take away a love interest. Almost kill a patient. Look after your cancer-stricken father figure. Have his best friend and supporter move away. Love interest comes back and is no longer interested and finds another partner. You chug along for a while and then you have it all taken away from you by a blatantly prejudiced person - despite performing above and beyond. And you expect him not to crumble? Anyone not to crumble? Claire can see what is happening but no one else seems to care enough because they don't see Shaun as a man. I could well be wrong and I hope I am. But that's my thesis based on the pictures of the episode and the two trailers.
Update: Realllly happy to be wrong!
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Wow. I was not expecting that. They went all in. A far cry from the first series where after some nice work Shaun was accepted in. Highmore did a superb job playing a man in a no-win scenario. Who couldn't feel for his portrayal of a man driven to the edge? I'm not even sure I can watch that scene again. It was so painful. I liked that there wasn't the Hollywood "let's all band together behind Shaun". That never happens in real life. Same as when Lea called out Glassman on doing an Outbreak at the quarantine.
I was pretty sure before that sending Shaun to Pathology was part of a play to get the medical board action behind them. Now I'm certain. Han is a player. Due process is not this man's middle name.
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2 hours ago, theatremouse said:
My understanding is it is very common for surgeons to have their own surgery playlists. Not everyone does it, but it's not out of the norm by any means. Knowing that, my read on the situation was more that Han is one of those surgeons: he has his music and he does his thing. That scene played to me like he was unwilling to alter his normal routine to accommodate Murphy, not that he intentionally decided to play music just that one time with the intention of needling Murphy. Whether he knew/suspected in advance it might be problematic for Murphy, to me is a little beside the point, because what was happening was new Chief Doing Things His Way, fuck anybody else.
If you notice, he doesn't play music loudly or even at all in other surgeries. It was the same intent IMHO that put Melendez in his place to do the corporate wellness check, that put Claire down for not knowing an equation in surgery and called Resnick out for her toadiness. He has done his homework and would have read the assessments. He says the same to Claire when she brought him the summary of Shaun's unique contributions knowing that she has stood up to her seniors before. It's more than doing things my way; it's the equivalent of a cat pissing on its territory. Therefore it's likely that he pre-judged Shaun as a liability knowing he was up before the medical board. And that makes his subsequent actions illegal.
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11 hours ago, bros402 said:
There could be surgeons with autism in real life, though - even if it would be unlikely - especially since a lot of people with autism have motor skill issues. There are doctors with autism - no surgeons yet, though, at least none that are officially diagnosed..
I am sure there have been hundreds if not probably thousands of Aspie surgeons, many working in the field today. It's a field that lends itself to those specific strengths. Many autistic people are hiding in plain sight and it would be good to showcase some of these co=workers in future series. Surgeons aren't known for having the best bedside manner and are also known for being quirky. Aspies with communication difficulties learn the algorithms of bedside manner very well. As Shaun will do over time. The ability to cut in an OR with others in the end should be the primary function - I know that's what I would be looking for. But of course that means collaborating and a senior surgeon ordering others to do specific prescribed actions. "Shaun never misses a beat in the OR..." That's what matters.
As to savant syndrome: http://www.internationalopulence.com/could-a-savvy-surgeon-have-autism-savant-syndrome/ I'm not a great fan of Rain Man because of the misconceptions that followed about other autistic people but having savant syndrome which used to be called being an idiot savant does not preclude a high IQ and precocious abilities in difficult professions. My very bright son has some strong savant abilities and we are hoping to get him through a PhD program eventually. He has also been treated as having cognitive difficulties and bullied due to his dyspraxia. Which is partly why this arc hurts like hell for me personally. (And no there is nothing wrong with having cognitive difficulties but the assumption you have them can lead to the lifepath altering actions).
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1 hour ago, readster said:
I've read that various doctors like certain atmospheres. Some do want complete quiet, so if they hear something out of place they can react. Some want classical, others enjoy Today's Hits. Han's problem is he likes it a certain way can't stand it any other way. That's very box thinking for someone who wants to be open minded. As they say: "I'm not you! I'm me!"
I don't think there is any doubt that he knew prior that Shaun was autistic and was sensitive to sound. He knew about the medical board investigation (from Aoki and Andrew's conversation) and he knew the individual histories of at least Melendez and Park. He hasn't been playing loud music on his surgeries since. It was at best a test and worst trying to show up Shaun's weaknesses. His remit is to keep the medical board at bay. Pushing Shaun into pathology ahead of the board is a plus for him. He may even think he is doing Shaun a favor making him less of a target.
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13 hours ago, possibilities said:
It's not that I think being in the fetal position on the floor is something everyone should pretend is totally cool, but he snapped out of it quickly and then did a really good job. The situation should be investigated, and I'd even be open to him being put on probation while he shows he can handle the stress of the job. But other doctors have screwed up and misbehaved, also, and that is the crux of the matter.
Also, he could become a surgeon where he is highly valued and respected and has status that a resident doesn't have, and then people will do things like have the lights in working order and not buzzing, just like Han controls his OR by playing music or commands a ridiculously high salary because he's considered worth it.
There are accommodations that can be made, which are reasonable and do not fundamentally alter the nature of the program or interfere with patient care or hospital functioning, which would be far better than just ditching a talented surgeon from the profession because of prejudice.
If a diabetic surgeon (of which there must be many) went into hypoglycemic shock you wouldn't fire them. A reasonable accommodation under the ADA would be the OR staff knowing about the diabetes and responding quickly to any abnormal behavior such as a slight slurring of speech with an appropriate response such giving her a cookie. If an autistic surgeon goes into sensory overload why would that not be seen as equivalent? A reasonable accommodation would be an OR without music blasting in it, a staff who understand high sensitivity to sensory stimuli and a quick response to unwanted abnormal buzzing sounds. Han's use of loud music to put Shaun off knowing it would affect him is in itself is a breach of the ADA and ought to a sackable offense.
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11 hours ago, AriAu said:
This was a surprisingly interesting episode. The medical cases moved along well and they did not let the religion aspect get too preachy and instead asked interesting (to me) questions.
I get that Dr. Han is supposed to be a dick for not letting our hero have his way, but he is bringing up legitimate issues about Shawn's ability to fully provide patient care. He is watching out for the patients, the hospital and Shawn, since pathology may be an area where he has the greatest probability of success.
The problem is that Shaun is crystal clear that he doesn't want to be a pathologist and it isn't Dr Han's place to make him. Autistic adults have free will in a free society just like anyone else. He is an excellent surgical resident now. To base a decision on how he might turn out is blatantly illegal and unfair.
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Glassman treats Shaun like a son. I wonder if he will officially adopt him at some point. I think he will. When your adult son is being discriminated against on the first level you might tell them to stand up for themselves. They aren't children any more. And you won't always be around. But when they stand up for themselves and are subjected to even more prejudice you darn well ought to fund a multi-million dollar lawsuit on their behalf. Or help them go the EEOC. This is a blatant breach of the ADA and given this is a finite arc I hope and presume they fire Han for this. Maybe that's Resnick's support of Shaun? Legal, practical and efficient.
These two episodes have hollowed me out. It's so painful to watch not least because I've seen it first hand with my children: He can't go sailing at the yacht club. You need to put him in the disabled sailing group. But they let his bullies sail. Or "he will find him place in life" (yeah well his place is with a PhD!). The non-invitations to birthday parties that you know the whole class is invited to. The indescribable pain you feel when your children are treated as less than. I know what they are trying to do but I will be glad to see the end of this arc. I hope somewhere this is causing a person to rethink their prejudice towards PWD. Because that's the only reason to do this.
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1 hour ago, possibilities said:
I don't object to them showing discrimination. It's painful but it needs to be exposed. What I object to is the way the show feeds the narrative that erases the existence of disability rights, the hard-fought and won battles of PWDs, and makes Shaun into a token victim.
I think that's very fair and underlines the truth that the show is for a broad range of viewers some of whom are ignorant of these struggles. I don't think that it's NT savior syndrome/token victim - at least from my read of some of the articles on "Believe". Let's wait and see on that. There is a lot of growth for Shaun in the series - albeit it's a bit uneven in the telling. That reflects the reality for autistic adults and rejects the fallacy that development somehow stops in teenagehood. The essence of Han's argument is that Shaun will never change for the "better". It's a slightly different skew than Shaun-shouldn't-be-here-right-now-because-he-is-plainly-incompetent that we saw in the first series. It's equally discriminatory but subtly different.
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8 hours ago, possibilities said:
Yeah, there's apparently no due process and no investigation.
Of course, in my experience as a disabled person, that's generally how it goes. Unless you sue, you can pretty much count on almost no one giving half a crap about your legal rights or general common sense and decency. And even if you DO sue, almost no one actually understands your rights and will act both shocked and offended when they find out what they are.
*Some people will be nice to you because they think of themselves as nice people. But they rarely if ever do it because they understand that you actually have a right to non-discriminatory treatment.
This hospital has always acted like disability rights do not exist, ever since the first episode when they had that absurd hiring process, and since then when they took bets on whether Shaun would fail and who on the bet would lose their job if he did.
They also showed some skepticism about other discrimination law when they had "you assaulted an attending but we can't fire you because you're a POC and will sue us".
The show's attitude about civil rights for minorities (POC, PWD) is pretty much terrible.
They show more nuance and do a somewhat better job with the autism portrayal in other ways, but if we're hoping they are going to actually talk about employment law, we have to hope they hired new writers also.
This was written by David Renaud who is in a wheelchair. He also wrote "Pain". He is more than well aware of discrimination in the professional field and no doubt knows about the EEOC. I think it's to do with the drama. Shaun needs to be seen on his hero's journey, battling the foes of adversity. The difference this time is that the perspective includes people who have grown to like and respect Shaun and how very different that is from the beginning of the first series. We also know Shaun and are rooting for him. The same guy who looked after his grumpy mentor/dad who has cancer when there were no other people to help. A good man going through a lot who doesn't deserve this. In what better way could they have shown the unfairness of discrimination against autistic adults? That doesn't stop it from being intensely painful to watch.
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Reminds me so much of the first series and why I fell in love with it. Yes it's the having to prove myself all over again trope but this time Shaun has lots of support showing how far he has affected the other characters. This kind of stuff - having to reprove yourself, being held to a higher standard - happens to autistic people all the time. It is physically painful when someone you love beyond life is underestimated (again). Note, Han had done his homework (eg. with Melendez) and would have known Shaun was autistic - hence the deliberate use of distractive music and pretend surprise at the lack of Shaun getting the joke. This is true prejudice - pre-judging, no doubt spurred on with by the investigation. If you can say "well, we haven't fired a man with ASD, but taken him away from direct contact with patients so it can't happen again", in Han's mind - result! I loved seeing the visuals again. I guess they didn't do so many of them previously to re-remind us how splendid Shaun's mind really is. The last scene was heart-breaking.
I liked the cancer support story. I looked up the drug and that is used for the type of glioma (GBM) that is often rapidly fatal and what Glassman thought he had after the second scan in the diagnostic process. No wonder he had some trepidation but the lovely little encounter with Shaun "autism is a part of me" sealed the deal. Fun to see Glassman reading the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy too.
The secondary patient story was interesting too. Melendez being forced to lower himself and the adult thoughtful nature of the doctor-patient interplay. How informed consent should work.
I'm looking forward to the last three episodes with a mix of excitement and trepidation.
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4 hours ago, juno said:
Pathology took me off guard. As much as a pain as he was, Ho identified a department that Shaun could really succeed in. It really makes a lot of sense. Shaun may become a great surgeon but he may also become a world famous Pathologist.
But he doesn't want to be a Pathologist and autistic people are often held to a higher standard than neurotypicals. He has been evaluated as competent from his superiors through 1.5 years of residency. This is what autistic people go through every day. It's as enraging as it is real.
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1 hour ago, bros402 said:
I am glad to see another show having representation for young adults with cancer this season (The other? New Amsterdam) - this episode was good, but I think Dr. Daniel Dae-Kim wanting to transfer Shaun to Pathology wouldn't be instant, and it is probably a violation of the ADA, especially given him saying things about how Shaun is impaired due to his autism to multiple people, and in public places in front of multiple witnesses
It is a total obvious breach of the ADA as was his interview. I'm glad he got to show his competency but, no, that's not how it works. I'd sue the ass off the hospital for doing that.
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12 hours ago, MVN-Hokies said:
I hadn't seen anything about the season finale yet, where did you find that info? I assumed that the medical board review would be saved for the finale - perfect set up for another cliff hanger ending. I have a feeling we'll be waiting until Season 3 to hear the fates of Murphy, Melendez, and Lim.
I went on a big hunt but couldn't find it. There are a whole lot of scenes with Shaun standing in man-made rain made using a big horizontal rain maker. In one you can see he is definitely wearing a tie. In one scene he looks up in the rain. Also looks like Debbie is back in one of the future episodes. Last one? Maybe off on a road trip with Glassman? There is scene where Glassman approaches her at the counter.
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34 minutes ago, MVN-Hokies said:
Season 2, Episode 17 info:
"Breakdown" - Dr. Shaun Murphy is desperate to join the team on a dangerous procedure involving a patient’s tumor removal. However, having been removed from the surgery team by Dr. Jackson Han (guest star Daniel Dae Kim), Shaun must use his talents to help figure out the cause of an infant’s injuries.
Air Date: 3/4/2019
Gosh next three weeks look interesting. I saw a clip of one of them and looks like the visuals are back which I love. Final episode looks like he is wearing a tie so three episodes of severe questioning of abilities followed by denouement at the medical board? Equally excited and apprehensive.
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S02.E18: Trampoline
in The Good Doctor
This is what David Shore says about that scene: "She’s confused. Is she jealous? I don’t know… There’s disappointment, even though I don’t think she was going to say yes… I love Shaun as much as she does, but you’re constantly trying to keep up with what’s going on in that head of his".
I think like most people there is a mix of emotions. While Shaun isn't her pet he is a constant in her chaotic life and the whole theme of the series is the positive effect that Shaun has on others. That constant has suddenly changed. I'm looking forward to the next series.