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S14.E01: Grace Time Is Over
nicole21290 replied to Palimelon's topic in The Real Housewives Of Beverly Hills
Honestly, the explanation that the media speculation made her consider her sexuality is obviously bunk. What she's trying to do, I think - VERY clumsily - is separate the narrative that she's at a point where she's questioning her sexuality from the narrative that she and Morgan have had some kind of sexual or romantic relationship. Making it more general a conversation about her own identiy because she can "only speak for [herself]". Because Morgan doesn't want to be mentioned or associated with her publicly in that way, she can't exactly say, 'Hey, met this person and whatever happened with us made me wonder if I might not be all that straight'. Morgan's never publicly disclosed her own sexuality so she would not want to be implicated in any kind of awakening, lol. Do you believe her at the last reunion where she acknowledged being curious to kiss her and exclaimed that she was hot in a way that connected that curiosity to some sort of attraction to her appearance? She's said in the press that she's STILL trying to figure this all out (the question of her sexuality) and it's been a couple of years at this point that she's been going through an 'evolution'. I guess it's POSSIBLE that she comes out of this period with the realisation that Morgan was an exception, and that otherwise, she isn't sexually attracted to women, but I don't get that sense from all she's been saying, tbh. -
Kyle Richards: Pantene Poster Girl
nicole21290 replied to Lisin's topic in The Real Housewives Of Beverly Hills
I mean, by "seasons" you mean one season? Last season. From what I recall, Kathy was well-received, and Kyle's friendship with Morgan began back in 2021. She was wearing a matching ring with her at the Season 12 Reunion in September 2022, and widespread rumours about their relationship only started in June the following year. That's a LOT of time spent together with zero pay off. Even this year, the week that Mauricio moved out, Kyle was in Texas at a resort with Morgan while the latter filmed a movie, and then they went to Nashville for a couple of days as well. Kyle literally didn't post anything about Morgan being there, only her location. She flew to Canada to see a concert; again, no posting. She's now saying she isn't even going to be talking about Morgan on the show to respect her wishes to stay private and not discuss her own 'journey' or 'experiences', even though they still spend time together (even doing a safari in South Africa recently). Kyle keeps friendzoning Mau HARD in every single interview and I very much do not get the sense he's interested in things going back to the way they were, either. -
Kyle Richards: Pantene Poster Girl
nicole21290 replied to Lisin's topic in The Real Housewives Of Beverly Hills
From what I've read, the conversation with her daughters was off-camera but she talks about it with the ladies (specifically Garcelle, at least) during the first episode. Here are some more relevant quotes. ENTERTAINMENT TONIGHT We do get this really emotional moment in the premiere where you talk about all the speculation and how it did make you maybe confront some feelings about your sexuality you had never explored before. Can you speak a little about why those emotions bubbled up. And even why you chose to go there this season. I chose to go there this season because I knew there was so much gossip and people were so curious, and the truth was I did have that conversation with my daughters off-camera, of course. And I decided to share that with the ladies just because it is important to me. It's my journey. It's my story. To me, it was important to be honest with my daughters. I like to always lead by example, and they're seeing these stories too. So I sat down with them and I had this conversation with them, and I just said, 'You know, I don't know what I'm feeling right now. I am going through changes.' And obviously I was raised a certain way and was like a robot, like this is what you're supposed to do and this is how you act, this is how you behave. I think it got - A couple of years ago, I just was like, you know what, I have my own thoughts and feelings. And if that means getting a tattoo at my age or whatever it may be, I'm going to live by my rules. And I would always want my daughters to come to me and have any difficult conversation they would need to have. And I would want them to know they're loved and supported, and that's exactly what they did with me. What is your message to people who feel entitled to know or want to pressure you into saying something about who you are that maybe you aren't or you're not ready to share with the world? I think it's important for people to not speculate about peoples' sexuality until that person has themself. And I think that people need to give people some grace and they may be curious but, you know, it has to be when that person is ready and that's their journey. PEOPLE MAGAZINE Richards says she began to reflect on how she was “raised a certain way with certain beliefs,” which led her to reframe the way she thought about various topics. “Regardless of whether it's getting a tattoo at my age or my sexuality, whatever it is, I was like, you know, I have my own thoughts and my own beliefs on this,” she shares. Although she was nervous for how her daughters would respond to the conversation, the Halloween Kills actress says they couldn’t have received it better. “The reaction I was met with just blew me away with all four of my daughters, and I felt so loved and so supported,” she recalls. Noting that Wade is “not signed up to be on the show” and “doesn’t want to be part of the show,” Richards says opening up about her sexuality has to do with her own journey. “I addressed it on the show this season because I am an open book and I want to be as honest as I can about myself,” Richards tells PEOPLE. “It's not because it's anyone's business but because it actually is freeing to me to be honest and is sort of a therapy in a weird way doing the show and having to address these things.” US WEEKLY The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills star Kyle Richards is revealing whether fans will get any clarity on her friendship with Morgan Wade during season 14. “What’s hard is that I can only speak on my behalf,” Richards, 55, exclusively told Us Weekly. “I’m not here to speak on anyone’s behalf but my own, especially someone who’s not signed up to do this show and doesn’t want to be spoken about on the show. So that puts me in a very different position.” She continued, “So with that said, what I do address is about me personally and my journey and what I’m going through and where I am at and just not addressing her in particular, because it is just not fair to. Yeah, I have to let her speak for herself.” REFINERY29 In the premiere, you talked about the media speculation about your sexuality because of your friendship with Morgan and how it caused you to “think twice.” What exactly did you mean by that? There was so much speculation and I was kind of going, ‘What are they even talking about?’ This is not something that would have ever registered in my brain. You’re raised a certain way, or at least for me, just on autopilot, that this is how life is. And [the speculation] did kind of make me go, ‘Hmm, now I'm wondering about that.’ Going through this journey on my own, and while everyone was speculating, I wanted to take that opportunity to talk to my daughters and say, ‘Listen this is where I'm at and this is how I'm feeling and I want to share this with you and I'm just being honest because I want to lead by example and I hope that you know you can always come to me.’ They are my best friends and I was worried they were embarrassed by any speculation. They just want their mom to be happy and they know that they are so loved and they just want to love me back and want me to be happy. What do you wish people who are talking or gossiping about your sexuality to understand? That it's actually not okay to talk about someone's sexuality until they are ready to speak about it themselves. That is something that you just don't do. It has to be when that person is ready and you have to give that person grace. In the LGBTQIA+ world, that's a very known thing. You give that person grace and let them figure it out on their own and don't comment on it until that person does, but that was just not what was happening. And I wasn't even understanding some of the headlines, and to see your name plastered with this stuff, I was like, ‘Wait, what is happening here?’ -
I mean, Mau literally doesn't even live with Kyle anymore, so I'm not sure how it's just a 'storyline' when they are separated and have been for well over a year now.
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Kyle Richards: Pantene Poster Girl
nicole21290 replied to Lisin's topic in The Real Housewives Of Beverly Hills
She saw Elle King at a festival in AZ earlier this year as well, because she was playing the night before Morgan's set. Funnily enough, talking of late in life changes, she got her photo taken with Braunwyn's partner at Stagecoach and reposted it on her stories. XD -
Kyle Richards: Pantene Poster Girl
nicole21290 replied to Lisin's topic in The Real Housewives Of Beverly Hills
Kyle's said a few times now that when she's done with Housewives, she doesn't intend to do any other reality TV. We know the docuseries about Morgan has a release date and distributor ready to go, so I think that's the closest we'll get. Frankly, Morgan might write about her life in her songs, but she's expressed a great deal of stress and anxiety (at the time) and ambivalence and disinterest (after the fact) about appearing on RHOBH, and I don't foresee her wanting to do a whole show focusing on them. Her last relationship, one issue they had was that Morgan didn't even want to publicly acknowledge her GF on social media, and after August and the music video last year, Kyle hasn't even appeared on her Instagram outside a story or two. In terms of giving more to BBH, a large part of that is simply the timeline of filming. RHOBH was February to May (with pickups in July) and BBH was May to late July (with pickups as late as December). Once the separation became public, obviously a lot more could be shared - by them and their daughters. That show also has a narrower family focus without the interference of a larger cast whom Kyle doesn't feel able to confide in. -
Kyle Richards: Pantene Poster Girl
nicole21290 replied to Lisin's topic in The Real Housewives Of Beverly Hills
Kyle's talked a little bit about this. Recently, she went to AZ to see Morgan perform at a festival on a Sunday. Then Mamitas, which her family do business with, asked her to go on Saturday too. That was Portia's birthday. They'd had a dinner for her on the Friday, but when Kyle asked her if she wanted her to be around for the birthday itself, Portia was basically like, 'don't bother, I'll be with my friends all day anyway'. XD She did a live with Portia last week when they were vacationing in Cabo and she seemed very complimentary of her mom (even specifically about how she parents) and physically affectionate too. -
Tina's one of her close inner circle and has been friends with Kyle for decades. https://www.instagram.com/p/CJ5QVFnFcJ0lth1Qc9NEhupXIOm_igZ9MLBRPQ0/ https://www.instagram.com/p/CqG5JE7vxjYDTus-ZRZVd2ASuJMa6n5o6Aerkk0/ You'll see her in a lot of group shots - Morgan's sitting on her lap in this one from Faye, for example. https://www.instagram.com/p/C09kqh9pASJ/ And you'll see her in the comments on Morgan's mom's posts, etc. They're all close. The paparazzi photos of Kyle and Morgan in Paris in September 2023 are what I'm referring to - some of them Tina also appeared in (as below - the ones published are ones where she's not as visible). She also posted at the time about seeing Morgan's concert and spending time with them with Michael Coste as well. https://www.instagram.com/p/CxYfN72pvoBTwgG-PO9UH693HnCVBdFNt5jkg00/
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Ha! Kyle and her close group of friends went to Mexico for her birthday on vacation, same as in 2023. I don't know who all of them are and you certainly can't tell from the set of paparazzi shots, but there's a single frame in her reel about the vacation matching the shirt Morgan's wearing in these pics. Teddi, Jenn, Jana and Tina are the regulars I'm most familiar with, and they're part of her inner circle. You'd recognise Jenn from party planner/friend role in the celebration of life episode this past season amongst other episodes, but she also appears in all her Kyle's Amazon Lives off-camera and helps in a sort of unofficial assistant role sometimes.
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Buying Beverly Hills - General Discussion
nicole21290 replied to CountryGirl's topic in Buying Beverly Hills
Vanity Fair published an article about the timing. It obviously plays a HUGE part in what was shared. RHOBH started filming in February and ended at the end of May. BBH started during May and ended at the end of July. They both had pick ups, RHOBH in July when the news broke but BBH did pick ups as late as December 2023. -
The whole 'they never post photos of our other friends with us!' nonsense is literally that - nonsense. It has happened once or twice, most notably when Tina was cropped from some photos in Paris. However, the VAST majority of times they get papped, they're on their own and absolutely not with other friends. I recently acquired a whole set of photos from the Mexico vacation earlier this year (see attached images), and they're standing side by side in every single one. After they took a group shot together, they literally walked aways away and did their own photo together, just the two of them with someone to capture it, lol. I got another set of photos where they're clearly both - alone - unpacking luggage from Kyle's car at a place she has in Malibu. Like even on BBH now, Mau is saying out loud that he doesn't know exactly what their relationship is beyond them spending a lot of time together and having a 'connection' and has never straight up asked because he doesn't want to put 'extra pressure' on her and if it's working for her, good.
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She spent a solid year posting flame emojis and heart eyes whenever Morgan posted a selfie where she was working out and/or wearing nothing but a sports bra and sweats, so yeah, no surprises there, lol...
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In their Amazon Live, she had stated this, but said she eventually went on YouTube and would watch compilations like 'Kyle Richards get dragged for fifteen minutes'. Also said she did see the Season 12 Reunion and found it 'very sad' and didn't want to watch the show because it would be difficult having known Kyle IRL. Rolling Stone ranked her album the top country/Americana record of 2021. So yeah, there is critical acclaim. That's not a lie.
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Kyle Richards: Pantene Poster Girl
nicole21290 replied to Lisin's topic in The Real Housewives Of Beverly Hills
People are soooo rarely all good or bad. She speaks a lot about Paris as an even younger child. "So we went [to New York] and I had a little twin bed in your room with the crib, and you were just the cutest thing. And because I was the youngest and didn't have a little sister, to me, that was really exciting because now there was someone younger than me, there was a baby in the family, so I wouldn't, I didn't have to be the baby. And I know I've told you this before and I've shared this story before, but I would sneak in your crib and pull you out and pull you in the bed with me, and I would cry because I loved you so much. And I was like, even now, I'm like, why was I twelve years old crying because I love this baby so much? It was - You were just so sweet and so cute, and I just was obsessed with you. Your mom was like, she wasn't one of those moms who was like, don't touch the baby. So I was changing diapers, making bottles, laying with you, and we really bonded since you were an infant." -
Kyle Richards: Pantene Poster Girl
nicole21290 replied to Lisin's topic in The Real Housewives Of Beverly Hills
Fear was definitely a big part of it. She was already shy (one of the reasons Kathy wanted her acting, she says) and then more fear on top of that. She also said she slept in a bed with her mom until fifteen because she was scared from the horror movies she did which is WILD. This is the full quote, by the way: "I think, being a single mom and raising daughters, it was really important for her to teach us not to be afraid or fearful, whatever that may be, you know. I mean we were women who all lived alone in our house, you know, or my grandma, your great grandmother, lived with us growing up, and so it was her, grandma and your mom, Kim and me, and she just didn't ever want us to be afraid. So she really wanted us to be brave. That was a really big thing for her. I think that's really formed who I am today and not always in the best way, you know. Like I think I have to be tough all the time, otherwise you're weak. And sometimes I'm like, it's okay to be weak, sometimes it's okay to need help. But I can remember I was so afraid of bees because you know, I'm severely allergic to them. And when she would see me be afraid, it bothered her because she wanted me to be strong and tough. So she would grab the bee and literally grab with her hand, squish it like - And she'd be like, don't ever be afraid. I'm like now scared of you. You're actually the most scariest thing I've ever seen, talking to me and squeezing in your hand like that. She thought she was helping me, but I think she was traumatizing me a little bit."