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5 hours ago, JudyObscure said:
I had looked forward to this show so much, I thought it was going to explore weight issues, fat acceptance, sexism and ageism. I thought it would expose the lies of the billion dollar diet industry, properly ridicule the superficial world of fashion, and makes us laugh. Now I'm just glad it's over.
Word! Those are the reasons I started watching too. Unfortunately, not only did the show fail to explore those things, my lasting impression of the show is that, through bad writing, it managed to minimize those struggles more than anything else. Plum never lived up to the hype of a smart, strong woman (that we kept being told she was, but never shown through her actions) marginalized by society because of her weight, Kitty was just an awful caricature of a human being, and I still have no idea what Jennifer was supposed to be about, and why they would want wishy-washy Plum to join up.
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I really wanted to like this show, but the writing and character development leaves much to be desired. I do understand why Plum is bugging so many at the moment. I started off really liking her, but the 180 degree personality shift in Plum overnight and her stupid decisions (like putting Calliope House on blast, calling creepy fat fetish guy) are very off putting. The only explanation in the show is that Plum got the equivalent of Instagram famous for 8 seconds, which suddenly makes her obnoxiously stupid and inconsiderate, after 30+ years of being cautious, calculating, and guarded. I don't buy it. Plum's actions seem more about driving the plot forward, rather than actually true to the character and a real evolution. It was so blatantly obvious that something bad was going to happen with creepy fetish guy in order to turn Plum guerilla enough for Jennifer recruitment by the next episode. Unfortunately, the show went there and decided to use rape, which really stinks.
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Congrats to Andrew Lincoln for escaping this mess. I just read that Norman Reedus re-negotiated for $20 million for Season 9, which is a travesty because its pretty likely that Danai and Melissa, who actually can act, are probably not getting paid any where near as much money...
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21 hours ago, SnarkyTart said:
Sadly, this would only work if the person doing the boycotting was a Nielson household whose viewing habits were being tracked or reported. If I was a Nielson household, I absolutely would join you in sitting this one out. As it is, I'll probably record it or watch it just so I know what you all are talking about. The posts about this show are WAY more entertaining than the show has been since season 4.
The shows ratings have been way down since last season, so I do think many Nielsen households have been/are tuning out. I know I was doing my part. Up until last month, I had been a Nielsen household for the last two years and I think I watched maybe two episodes (both Kingdom/Carol-centric) during that time. My hope was that the shows writing might improve if the show could no longer take its viewers for granted when it’s ratings started to decline. Sadly, because Gimple sucks, it didn’t. It’s only through the hilarity of the posters here that I’ve been able to keep up with the show (apparently I haven’t missed much other than a garbage lady and a bunch of monologues in the last three seasons!) without watching it for so long.
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Wow, Gimple really does not learn. I stopped watching this show regularly at the beginning of Season 6 because of my frustration with the writing. Still, I keep up (bad habits die hard) on the show thanks to you fine folks and your excellent snark, hoping that, with the ratings tanking, the writing might actually get better since they can no longer take their viewers for granted. Guess not.
I have no idea how Carl dying drives Rick or Michonne's forward, and not in the good way. Crazytown!Rick talks to ghosts and will kill you using his teeth, so not computing how Carl's death is going to keep Negan alive. I would think it would make him more homicidal. Meanwhile, from the comments, it seems like the bloated cast of thousands continues, and they spend no time focusing on characters viewers actually care about (Who the hell is Neil, by the way?). From the live chat thread comments, it seemed like there was a ton of Savior talking and tertiary characters, while Rick, Michonne, Carol, and Morgan, were MIA without explanation for most of the extra-long episode. If they killed off Tara, Eugene, Jesus, Enid, Rosita, the trash lady, and all the other dead weight in the "series regular" cast, and actually focused on the core cast, the episodes would probably be more well-received. It's very difficult to care about main characters that only show up for 3-4 episodes out of 16 every season.
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1 hour ago, DakotaLavender said:
Well, the episode was gorgeous to watch and magnificently executed... but for me, that's it. I cannot see past the art direction. It's all allegory inside breathtaking cotton candy and fluff. I have not read the books so for me the story seems totally undeveloped.
I know of The House on the Rock... so I was disappointed they ended where they did. I am curious to see how it is used inside the next season. But, I will not go past episode 1 if they continue with the cotton candy approach.
I feel the same. It's a beautiful show with top notch talent, but nothing happens in terms of plot or characterization. There is no sense of urgency with this "war" and no development in terms of who Shadow is as a person/character even though he's the main character, so its hard to care what happens to him. Ironically, Laura is the least likeable character, but significantly more developed. As a non-book reader, I was left underwhelmed by this season, and I'm not sure I'll be tuning in for season 2 if its more of the same....
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13 minutes ago, callmebetty said:
This episode was....well that happened.
Did enjoy the Daryl and Carol reunion. I get why he didn't tell her about Glenn and Abraham. Daryl is still processing his guilt and torture and cares deeply for Carol.
I have a question what ever happened to the original Tron guy who found Carol and Morgan at the end of last season? The red haired one? Did he morph into Richard?
And add my love for Jerry.
He's still there :) He was with Ezekiel and Jerry when they showed up at Carol's house right before Daryl did. Add me to the Jerry love train too.
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Stopped watching after last season, but tuned in tonight just to see Carol and Daryl's reunion, - Melissa McBride continues to be the best part of the show, so, of course, she probably won't be seen again until the Season Finale...
Unlike others here, I don't think the show is planning to kill Carol...ever. She's a fan favorite and the best actress on the show, and TPTB know it.
I do think the show was setting up two things for the end of the season - Carol finding out what happened to Glenn/Abe, getting her homicidal groove back, and trying to convince Ezekiel to join the fight against the Saviors. I fully expect Carol to return to Alexandria either with or without the Kingdom crew to save the day, cause you just know Rick is going to mess that up...
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My sense is that Carol attained untouchable status, like Rick, Daryl, Carl, and Michonne, due to her popularity and Melissa McBride's talent sometime during Season 4 ("Look at the flowers!"), so I don't see Carol dying at all. She may be relegated to only 2 episodes every season, since Gimple always writes some form of disappeared or incapacitated Carol each season, but she won't be killed...
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7 hours ago, tv echo said:
Ratings for this week's TWD episode (7x06-Swear) were 4.9 demo and 10.40 total viewers...
http://www.spoilertv.com/2016/11/final-adjusted-tv-ratings-for-sunday_30.htmlSeason 7 so far:
7x01 - 8.4 and 17.03
7x02 - 6.1 and 12.46
7x03 - 5.7 and 11.72
7x04 - 5.4 and 11.40
7x05 - 5.2 and 11.00
7x06 - 4.9 and 10.40Sweet! I'm glad they're finally getting their come-upance ratings-wise for the craptastic writing over the past 2 seasons!
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I have zero expectation or anticipation for Season 7. I've been a watcher since Season 1, but since Season 4, I've only continued to watch sporadically once I realized I was disliking or getting annoyed with TPTB's storytelling more and more (i.e. the governor flashback episodes, "bottle" episodes by the ton in the second half of the season, etc.). Of the show's 900 series regulars, the only character I still have any emotional investment in is Carol (thanks solely to Melissa McBride), and her arc last season made no sense.
Gimple never learns and I fully expect him to continue to do the same annoying momentum-killing crap in Season 7 that's been turning me off since Season 4. Because of that, I'm totally with those think that the Lucille victim may not be revealed until the end of the premiere, if then. Knowing Gimple, the first 45 minutes of the premiere will either be a dream, hallucination, flashback, or roadtrip with Tara and Heath. Ugh...
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Since I really only still watch this show for Jude and Zero, last nights episode was a treat. I may have rewound their cloakroom hookup scene a couple (hundred) times. It was weird, in a good way, seeing Zero actually be genuine for a change, since he's such a predator with every other character. I think its clear that Jude and Zero are endgame, but being a soap, you know there has to be a lot of drama getting there...
Add me to the list that hope Aasha and Derek disappear. Zzzzzzzzzzzz!
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S06.E05: Now
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Tovah Feldshuh is only 61 years old, she looks like she's 75. She has not aged well at all.
Tovah Feldshuh looks like a REAL 61 year old woman, not the botoxed, plastic surgery version that we've all become accustomed to thanks to Hollywood. So much respect for her for not falling into that trap. She's beautiful as she is and a talented accomplished actress. See Norman Reedus if we're talking about an actor who hasn't aged well, since male actors seem to get a pass about this...
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Hopefully not. I'm so not a fan of flashback episodes on The Walking Dead. They're always such a pain to get through. (I could not care less about what happened to Morgan between Clear and now.)
Also, I don't think Glenn will die the same death as in the comics. The show has mostly changed the character deaths in recent years. If they introduce Negan, it will probably be a long running character that bites it (my money is on Morgan, with Daryl, Carol and Glenn being possibilities. Though Glenn would be too obvious and Daryl is too popular of a character).
Not a fan of flashback episodes either. Gimple is a very good writer, but he never learns. Those Governor episodes is Season 4 were awful and brought all the shows momentum to a halt. As much as I like Lennie James, I'm not watching Ep 4 just on principle. I'll read the summary and save myself the aggravation.
As far as the Negan death, my money is on either Morgan or Daryl. I think Glenn is safe for this season, since Gimple is very predictable and once a character has a fake out death (Carol and Judith), they tend to be safe. I think Carol is in for the long haul, as Gimple seems to love the character and the actress. But, even if she weren't, having an abuse-survivor brutally beaten to death by a man is not a message this show wants to send, so it won't be her. Daryl, on the other hand, hasn't really being doing much in terms of character development. Also, I'm not sure how popular he is now. Season 1/2/3 Daryl was awesome, but the Pod/Emo Daryl from Season 4 onward is pretty much dead weight.
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S06.E02: JSS
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I disagree that Carol isn't motivated by protection of others. When she was banished, she was solemnly setting about survival, but the second she saw a pillar of smoke coming from the prison, she couldn't get there fast enough. She immediately purposed herself with protecting Lizzie, Mika, and Judith. They went the Terminus route in order to hopefully find the others and bring Judith back to her family. She attacked Terminus to save the others. Perhaps she also had something to prove to herself, or she wanted to atone for what she did at the prison, but I believe she altruistically was motivated to save her innocent group from people like Martin. There was no way she was going to let those cretins kill the chick with the sword and the kid with the hat.
Rick and Tyrese made their peace and wanted to keep her with them, but she was going to leave again on her own when she and Daryl saw the Grady Hospital car. Daryl sort of forcing her demand he save Noah was the beginning of her way back to ANY kind of normalcy. The episode Consumed revealed her mindset that she felt like her "self" had been burned away, and she doesn't know who she is right now.
In Alexandria, I think she's had the same one track as Rick. Nothing anyone says or does matters because ASZ is a sitting duck and catastrophe is probably around the corner. I think, like Rick, if Alexandria was secured properly, she'd have other things to think about. Maybe she can't be integrated anymore, maybe she can. But without security it doesn't matter. I think some of the tears she shed at the end of the Wolf battle were for the fact that things could not be the way the ASZers wanted them to be. She still grieves normal life, too. She just can't afford to think about it.
Also, as far as some people's horror over how she spoke to Sam, I think that's a 21st century first world viewpoint. It made me think of being on wagon train heading west (westerns again), when people died of disease or got killed in attacks, and you had to bury them in the road and keep going. Settlers were tough, not sentimental. What are they now, but settlers again?
Word. The whole point of Carol's actions last episode was about protecting others. She could have stayed in the house with Carl and chilled if it was only about self preservation. Just like with Terminus, she was at risk of death the entire time she was attacking the Wolves.
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>>By the way, why was this episode called "Spend?"
I could probably think of atleast two dozen one-verb titles that would be more appropriate.
Maybe it's referring to the ASZhat's philosophy of "spending" their companions when necessary to save their own worthless hides - ? I'd like to know, too.
Some observant person on tumblr figured out that the last five episodes are titled after verbs taken from something Dale said in the Season 1 episode, Vatos:
"I like what the father said to the son when he gave him a watch that had been handed down through generations. He said: ‘I give you a mausoleum of all hope and desire which will fit your individual needs, no better than it did mine and my father before me. I give it to you not that you may remember time, but that you may forget it. For a moment, now and then, and not spend all of your breath trying to conquer it.’”
Next weeks episode is entitled "Try" and the season finale is "Conquer". What the quote means in the context of the episodes we've seen thus far, I have no idea.
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Are Carol fans seriously mad at AB for saying Jessie would punch Carol in the face for terrorizing her son? I thought it was kind of a weak answer. if someone did that to my kid I'd cut them.
I thought AB's answer was funny, since I have no doubt that Carol would take her out shortly after said punch.
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Not feeling all these new people. After so many seasons with so little civilization, its just as strange for me as a viewer as it is to the group to adjust to all these clean, new people. I like Deanna and Aaron - the rest of these folks can go anytime now.
Carol is hardcore and will no doubt be saving everybody's butts for the second time all John McClane-style when the stuff hits the fan in Alexandria, most likely during the season finale, so I'm not at all concerned or surprised about her threatening a kid. As the show has established, she will do anything to protect her CDB/TeamPrison family. Unfortunately for Sam, he's not in that group.
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Noooo! Beth is singing :(
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Yeah, I don't think Beth went into that altercation expecting to not come out of it.
What I am most bothered about is that Beth chose to either non-fatally stab an armed woman, just because she wanted to leave with a giant FU to Dawn; or, she's the most incompetent wanna-be murderer ever. Who stabs a (covered!) collarbone when there's an exposed neck right there? She was Hershel's kid...she must know a good place to stab if you wanna kill someone or seriously wound them. Or fuck, watched a movie one time?
Either way, Beth's stupidity got her killed and it was either because of OOC spite or ignorance of basic biology. Neither are particularly acceptable reasons for Beth to have died. Why she couldn't have stabbed Dawn in the jugular rather than having her bungle it and have Daryl step in to avenge her by killing Dawn? What was gained by her failing at killing Dawn? Did TPTB not want her memory to be tarnished by an out-and-out premeditated murder? Frankly, I'd rather that than what they chose.
At least she would have died taking out Dawn, rather than dying for nothing. At a stretch, I could say that she's responsible for Noah's freedom, but the idea that Rick Fucking Grimes would have stood aside while Dawn enslaved that kid again, in blatant disregard for the deal that was made, is too laughable for me to consider.
As an aside, I don't even know what to make of the Beth fans creating a petition to bring the character back. Girl had a hole shot clean through her brain. That was not an ambiguous death. Also, haven't they finished filming all of S5 now? So unless the show plans to pull an old-school Dallas move and go "the last season was all a dream!", I really don't know what they plan on accomplishing with that...
Good lord! I swear the average age of Beth's fans is 14 and most, if not all of them, are her "fans" because they want her to hook up with Daryl(so that they can vicariously hook-up with Daryl through her). I've been reading on some other sites that in addition to this petition and the spoon-plan, they've been getting very nasty in verbally insulting Scott Gimple and Melissa McBride (because it's somehow all her fault that TPTB decided to kill Beth) on social media sites. People need lives. It's a fictional television show.
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Since Karen has been brought up again, I just wanted to point out the blatant double standard going on when it comes to Rick and Carol's actions. I personally love both DoneTakin'Crap!Rick and Carol, but I can't help but notice that Rick isn't getting anywhere near the hate/condemnation for his current kill everybody first, ask questions later actions. Meanwhile, Carol was quickly and vocally labelled as a cold-blooded killer/murderer/psycho by so many last season.
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S05.E08: Coda
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Whenever the show isn't working at a breakneck speed plotwise or having wall to wall action set pieces, the show is labeled boring. This show can never slow down or try for any type of character introspection. It gets labeled as boring every time.
That's not true. At. All. This particular episode was boring because of bad pacing and bad writing. Clear in Season 3 and The Grove last season are among the show's best episodes and neither are action packed.
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S05.E08: Coda
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Season premiere = great episode, with great pacing. This episode = crapfest. Ugh, it was just bad and a total letdown.
The hospital storyline could have been great, if it made any sense. I still have no idea what was going on with Dawn and the cops there.
i never cared about Beth, and so I'm just happy I'll never have to hear her singing again. Also, I would care more about Maggie's grief if she didn't completely forget her sister existed because all that's mattered was Glenn, Glenn, Glenn since the end of Season 4. Lauren Cohen totally imitated Andrew Lincoln's collapsing with grief thing from Season 3 when Lori died - the only difference was that you actually knew Rick cared about Lori no matter how dysfunctional their marriage was. Maggie not so much about her sister.
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Ugh, this is why I hate watch this show 90% of the time. 45 minutes of talking to be followed by 15 minutes of hopefully somewhat decent stuff.
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Spoilers and Speculation
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Wow! Carol is definitely going to get all murdery again. I may have to start watching again just to see it.