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2 hours ago, CountryGirl said:
An extended preview of the finale: https://www.instagram.com/tv/CdtXaswJqT_/?igshid=NWRhNmQxMjQ=
Photos from the finale:
Thanks for this. I am surprised. Lately they've waited to release the pictures of the next episode on Monday nights!
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1 hour ago, smartymarty said:
I was surprised that everyone went to bed despite being told that Rebecca likely would not survive the night. Seems they would do an all-night vigil (as only Randall and Kevin did). I certainly would have stayed up with my husband while his parent was dying.
Absolutely. I didn't get that either. Beth & Sophie went to bed.
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16 hours ago, debraran said:
i didn't ether but Miguel episode got me. A couple who do reviews on youtube (MATT/JESS) felt the same way, tears with Miguel but nothing last night. Made me feel better that I didn't miss something but we all respond differently. Seeing her bug eyed on the train, beautiful and glowing, but she seemed trying to hard to seem surprised and slightly confused. We all have different views of afterlife but I would hope when you transition or die, if you believe, you are healed, you are able to see and know things you didn't before. She seemed stuck in some ways and if that's how they wanted to play it, fine, but it didn't move me as much.
I was moved by Beth's speech, being a mom, she hit on real truths. The boys said what you would expect to their mom and it was touching but nothing was overly profound. I loved Toby's line and not quite sure why Madison brought up her "other bridal shower" and stripper. lol
I hope they scatter her ashes under the 2 trees her husband's liked and/or planted and maybe we can see them again. I KNOW we'll see a lot more Jack.
Yes. I think in my case I expected so so much. The whole Mandy Moore throwing up thing and Chrissy Metz being devastated. I cried for Miguel and last week. I didn't really cry this week.
I do have a question: why was Rebecca looking above Beth and at the light behind her, during Beth's speech?
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17 hours ago, tennisgurl said:
I just find it so bizarre how rushed so much of this season has been. Its been six seasons, the show could have kept going for another season or two at least, they knew that this was the endgame, the show chose to end now, why does it feel like the frantic scrabble you get when a show's been suddenly cancelled, especially with Kate's divorce, marriage, and career, she totally changed her life in about three episodes.
I know that this show has never nailed pacing (how much time can we spend watching Randall's bio mom sell veggies or Deja engage in awkward teen flirting) but come on, I feel like Kate's getting cliff notes.
I wonder if the very fast pace of season 6 has to do with Randall's speech about "time moving fast". We also saw Miguel tell Randall at the wedding, "it's moving to fast" Randall: "what is?" Miguel "all of it". And next week the nurse tells Kevin and Randall "it's going to go fast now", or something along those lines. Just the speed of time as one ages compared to being a child. I definitely can relate!
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3 hours ago, debraran said:
never watched 6 feet Under show but many think it will end the way their did, showing each person and how wonderful their life was. ; )
Six Feet Under finale in 05 (been so, so long) was actually mostly sad for me. Ugh, the Echo Park scene with David seeing Keith destroys me. I get chills thinking about it.
This episode, Family Meeting, had me hysterical. The juxtaposition of healthy, vibrant Rebecca and old Rebecca.
Time wise, Beth said, "I've known this family over 30 years". So, 2028? Beth and Randall met in 98.
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Well, they say life ages you now in days! 🤣😝
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3 hours ago, Shermie said:
It happens in real life actually. I agree that the kids have no business interfering with their parent’s happiness, but some are so attached to the notion that their Mom has to mourn Dad (or vice versa) forever, that’s the dead parent will be erased.
Yup. As I wrote earlier, my uncle passed in 2012, suddenly. His widow, my aunt, met a man at game night and by May of 2013 they were very much an item. He had a ring and a trip to Mexico planned before she too passed in November 2013.
Her daughter never spoke about him or met him, infuriated that her mom moved on so fast. In fact at the house the night my aunt passed (also very, very suddenly) she was icy cold to him.
My aunt's son, however, loved him and did stuff with him on weekends.
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23 hours ago, PRgal said:
Why would Miguel's dad have issues with his success? If my son became, say, the Jeff Bezos of his generation then darn right I'd be proud of him. I don't see how this is "forgetting" where one comes from? Or am I coming from a different position? Is it resentment?
As for not being sure of where one should be/one's place in society, I think that's an experience many "other culture" people, especially those who were born here or came here as young children face. Society dictates that they be one way while they hear something completely different at home. I'm dealing with this to this day, though not to the extreme as some.
And where is that beach towel? I really needed it. :(
One more thing: Would the Big 3 have known the Rivas kids, considering that Jack and Miguel were really good friends? I would have thought they would have played together when they were young.
I think Andy is around my age, Amber younger? In "The Game Plan" in season one or two, Shelly or Miguel comment they have a "6" year old at home. I was 6 in 1980. I generally didn't hang with kids 6 years younger. Different grades, different schools, different interests.
I finally say "Miguel" last night. Despite haven seen the shortened montage on Youtube that morning, I was overwhelmed and hysterical. Like The Time Travelers Wife novel hysterical, Directors Cut of The Butterfly Effect hysterical, Memphis hysterical, What Dreams May Come hysterical.
There is always something subtle that cuts me in the heart and brings the tears. In Memphis it was Randall holding William's face in hands and William's "I'm scared" and "My beautiful boy". This time, it was the Rebecca and Miguel scenes of 2009 and then how they only had like ten years before her diagnosis. How life works out strangely but gloriously at times. Finding another heart that fits your's so late in life after your first heart passes on. Miguel's expressions of love with the kids. Such a great, expressive actor. I KNEW the apple tree seeds would turn into a momentous tree that we'd visit again near deathbed scene.
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* Wonder if he died in 2028, the apple tree looked bigger and Jack died in 1998 (who, of course has a tree, love how trees factor in the show), plus the Big 3 needs to age, the pic that somebody posted on here from Us Magazine really shows the aging. Makes some sense. Wedding in 2026, they talk with Miguel is Thanksgiving 2026 and then another year of care and Christmas with Andy, and then he passes the following autumn (apples on tree). The twins are the same age as the wedding (looking around the same age, that is) I swear Mig and Rebecca look older (cane and whatnot) and people's hair has changed.
* LOL, still annoyed as someone who lives near Bethlehem and has spent time and sleep-away camp in the Poconos that the cabin is so so very prominent in their lives. I mean, Marc and Kate drive there impulsively, thanksgivings there, lots of summer trips...Pococos and Pittsburgh, not close. I've only been to Pburgh airport in passing to PSU to see my husband from my own college in Ohio. Plus, were they not selling it in the Randall drinks the mushroom smoothie episode? Wasn't the cabin Jack's boss (perhaps Mr. Lundy's?)
* Rebecca sternly tells them to "do the big things and take the big risks" earlier this season. Apparently they did. Kate and Kevin's remarriages (plus Kates divorce), Randall's senate seat, Kate's new job.
* How many wigs do they have for Rebecca? Someone on here noticed, as did I, that her hair at Tess's birth was longer and wavier. Maybe she got it done the next day? Lol.
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Absolutly adore the costumes and hair. Wish I'd been an adult in the early 70's rather than just being born! Great show, Penn is fantastic!
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47 minutes ago, Jillybean said:
I've never known where the 2030 assumption in these forums came from. In the flash-forward, Randall is aged much older than 55 IMO. I say this as a 52-year-old.
I, too, had wondered if Kevin's son in the FF was not Nicky, but a younger son. But it does seem unlikely.
I don't think I could have taken a less sanitized version of Rebecca's illness. Last night's ep had me full-on sobbing, not in the way that "oh, this was such an emotional episode" -- but more because it got me thinking about my own aging parents, even though they're in pretty good health now. I was pretty depressed afterward. I think touching on the reality without showing all the ugly bits was probably the way to walk the tightrope for this show. Too much reality would have me -- and probably others -- tuning out.
Exactly this for me, too.
Yes, thank God. Same with able parents. My dad does have Parkinsons but it is still thankfully mild at this point His two best friends have it and have deteriorated much further. My mom's best friend's husband died of it in 2016. My mom thinks Parkinsons is so prevalent because people are living much longer. All my grandparents died before 80. All born from 1905 to 1912.
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25 minutes ago, coconspirator said:
My folks are both in their 70’s. Neither has dementia and they are both still able to be independent and enjoy life as retirees, but this episode hit hard because I know what could be coming. I was keeping those feelings at bay until “And so it goes” started. That just about did me in. I felt that as if it gut punched my soul. Damn you show but also good job show.
In 2001 I was 27 and working as a waitress in a local restaurant that served many, many retirees. Lots of people in their 50s and 60s came in with their parents. I would become anxiety ridden with fear from seeing the parents suddenly take on the children's role and the parent's role to the child.
Big oxygen tanks, children reading the menu to their parents, the parents frail and unable to read the menu. My then strong father would come in and he was not even 60 yet. I would say to myself, 'please stay in this time, please stay in this time'. As Randall said in his Kate wedding speech a few weeks ago, time goes by way, way, too quickly and most especially with age. Randall said something, like when you're 5, well that is 1/5th of your lifetime and everything is new. My twenties felt like "baseline" and I took them for granted. They lasted, at least in my mind, a long time. I had no worries about 30 or my 30s. They passed far, far quicker though. My 40s have been warped speed. Years feel like the way 8 months felt 10 years ago.
I feel sick and nauseous thinking of what is ahead, as everyone reaches this point. Or like my cousins, they lost their parents very suddenly at 69. And, omg, from 2001 to 2022 went by terrifyingly fast.
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8 hours ago, tennisgurl said:
Oh God, are the kids going to have to explain what happened to Miguel to Rebecca every time she asks? She freaked out when he just left the room, now what will they do? Just pretend he’s getting groceries until she forgets to ask? My heart y’all. And so it goes.
My uncle, by marriage, passed April 2012 at 69 from a sudden heart attack. His mom had had Alzheimers for years and was 90. Her other son debated telling her. He did, but she consistently forgot he passed. She lived until 2021. People hold onto this disease for so long, like Rebecca.
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6 hours ago, Artsda said:
That ending montage made me cry. At the start of this series 6 years ago I remember not liking Miguel, now they have me crying over his death.
Really sweet of Kevin to go to Miguel's son and reach out to him on Miguel's behalf. I didn't get why his own kids hated him when he tried to call them all when he moved close to them in Texas. He wasn't with Rebecca then, so it had nothing to do with her really. The rift was there before.
I also didn't get the timeline. Randall and Kevin look so old when Rebecca's dying. Yet they look like present day Randall and Kevin when Miguel is dying.
Haven't seen it yet, but i watched the promo for Family Meeting and was confused because the Big 3 look so young. Especially Kevin. Like, he seriously looks like he does in 2022. I assume Family Meeting takes place after Miguel's death.
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On 4/28/2022 at 11:06 AM, Rootbeer said:
As far as using the same initial for all 3, that was pretty common for multiples back in that era. It wasn't until the 90's some time that it became more common for twins and triplets to each have their own name with no relation to the other kids' names. It was either initials or rhyming back in the day; hence I know twins named Kevin and Kelly, Carrie and Sherry and Dawn and Doreen.
As far as the letter K, they probably decided on one name first and then tried to find others with the same initial that they could agree on. Kevin and Kyle were not unusual at all in that era. Kate didn't really become popular until the late 80's, early 90's, though. I had a friend who had a daughter in 1982 and named her Kate and I remember some of us being surprised that they didn't name her Katherine or Kathleen and use Kate as a nickname. Kate as the actual first name was not at all common back then.
Yup. I went to high-school with triplet girls, three girls, all C names.
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23 hours ago, VanillaBear85 said:
Waste of an episode. Total filler and didn't need a whole episode.
Looking forward to Miguel's episode next week.
Yup. I feel the same. Kevin's love life has always been my least favorite plot thread in the series. I mean, I actually do like the character, I just was like 'whatever' in terms of who he ended up with.
Very curious to see Miguel's story though. TIS, in my opinion, does such a great job with Rebecca's looks through the years, even as far as fashion and hair suitable for each year.
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20 minutes ago, debraran said:
I don't think much of Sophie yet since the actress never hid she did these scenes but it was nice seeing her there. Philip without Kate unless she was on bathroom break : ) We know "she" or someone brought Jack and his sister. I don't recognize one blonde with kids but tht might be someone related to them or a character we don't know.
It is Madison. Her hair is longer and I recognized her big smile.
It stands to reason thqt in 10 years or so fashion wouldn't have changed that much.
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3 hours ago, Ohiopirate02 said:
I went to many a Catholic wedding where the ceremony was at 11 and the reception was in the evening. It's a very common arrangement due to the multiple duties of priests on Saturdays. They have to fit in weddings before weekly confession and the Saturday evening Mass. A 12 hour day for the wedding party was par for the course, while guests relaxed and drank. The guests at Kate and Philip's wedding had a whole day to enjoy the winery before the ceremony.
Yes! I went a wedding in 06, Catholic Philadelphia wedding, and the wedding was late morning, the reception around 7. Everybody drank in between. Dinner was held up and it was a mess. Guests puking over the balcony.
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27 minutes ago, chocolatine said:
So now we know who Kevin ends up with.
Yeah. Ken Olin deleted it soon after posting it. But some say it could be deliberately misdirected.
Lol, at this point I'm over the Kevin mystery. It's gotten to the point where they personally beat the dead horse too much.
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On 4/21/2022 at 5:07 AM, debraran said:
Yes, no skinny dipping, lets not jump the shark in any way ; ) Yes Miguel, is after the Kevin and 3 ladies soap opera and then something about a train. I forgot the second to last one and last just said finale.
I hope they steer clear of that ending too and think of something unique. I thought maybe a classy ending is seeing the kids growing up and then her grandkids and if they must show dead souls, let it be a group. Miguel, Jack holding Kyle, or Kyle running to her, still really cheesy but if it's just Jack, way too Hallmark-like for me and not respectful to Miguel for me to feel anything.
Okay, I wonder if the train episode will be Rebecca on a train to heaven and meeting people on the way. Of course, Jack will be last. Kinda like Mitch Albom's The Five People You Meet In Heaven.
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1 hour ago, Good Queen Jane said:
There's the surprise ending. It's the year 2060. Famous rock star Jack Damon gets a mysterious summons to the death bed of a rich old man. The man explains that, when he was born on August 31, 1980, a nurse at a maternity ward in a Pittsburgh hospital was aware of a wealthy woman who had just had a stillborn child and was desperate for a son. The nurse, knowing that the a poor woman who had just given birth to triplets, told the doctor that one of the boys had died (the youngest who had medical complications that the poor family couldn't afford to have treated) and smuggled the child out of the delivery room and gave him to the wealthy woman. Due to their financial resources, the baby was successfully treated and lived to take over the family's highly profitable kitchen appliance business, which included crock pots and smokers. Later the man discovered the truth but only on his death bed did he decide to reach out to his birth family. The man concludes: "Yes, Jack, I am your Uncle Kyle. Tell me, what happened to my parents and siblings? " So Jack sits down and says " I'm not sure if I've got it all straight but..."
OMG! I would love that! Very St. Elsewhere finale (which I saw live btw).
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2 hours ago, AriAu said:
Does Philip have lots money since they seem to be spending a lot on the wedding (winery in San Ynez etc....) and the engagement party? Family coin or settlement of the wrongful death suit?
San Ynez? See, at first I thought it was Spain and then Napa and then I went to TIU Reddit and they're saying it was filmed at a specific Spanish Winery.
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On 4/12/2022 at 9:52 PM, Armchair Critic said:
I don't think Kate will actually be happy with this new husband either, she is a downer.
Complete and utter downer. Even as a kid. When Toby brought up Kate's obsession with Jack I laughed out loud. Remember the holding Jack's head in her hands? Or young Kate saying, "I want to marry you." Teen Kate is so negative and grumpy and was this way even when Jack was alive.
On 4/12/2022 at 10:00 PM, LexieLily said:Kate is alive in the future-flashes, that's the most important thing we learned tonight.
I do wonder how much of the Kate/Toby/Phillip storyline was planned out this way and how much of it was dictated by the circumstances of the episodes we lost during Covid. We're missing so, so much in the narrative here.
Yeah. I mean, I figured Kate was alive in the Rebecca deathbed timeline, but I didn't expect it in 2043 or whenever, nor Toby. I didn't notice their aged looks either until both were sitting down with Lucy. I did notice Parfait's shorter hair though. Wonder if Parfait is the "they're" in 2032. Like Jack, Hayley and Parfait.
People have mentioned that Toby looks depressed in the scene when Randall calls him "to come down". I wonder if Toby is working temporarily in the Philadelphia area and his wife and children are in Los Angelas. I chatted with one of the writers on Twitter years ago (when we found out that Randall heads to the cabin to see "her") and asked if Randall moves near the cabin. They said that yes, at that point in time Randall and his family live near enough to the cabin to "drop by" whenever. Looks like Toby got there pretty fast if you see when he arrived compared to Randall and Tess. Huh, maybe Toby is big time in IT at that point and travels all over the place for work. Maybe he is just stressed?
On 4/13/2022 at 7:47 AM, Blackie said:That is the most depressing thing about this show: the future , 2043, looks totally boring. Unless future Little Jack is singing in some equivalent of a "period theme" pub that are around now. Its the future!! And Toby is there wearing an old man's cap, they haven't figured out how to grow hair 😞.
And I appreciate that they want to cast blind actors but unfortunately that had broken their usual pretty spot on casting of the kids at different ages. Chubby 6 year old Jack totally fit as Katobi's kid, but we had already seen grown up Jack who is a totally different body type.
I think the whole premise of trying to take the story into 2043 was a big fail.
ETA: the worst marriage therapist ever is only after 16 months of therapy suggesting they have a dinner alone together
Yep. I always look for hints in the deeper future scenes to see if anything has changed, and nope. Nothing new here. I remember in Six Feet Under they at least tried. Somewhat. This episode actually reminded me of SFU when they showed the new Big 3's 6th birthday party and then jumped to 2040s. If anyone has watched the SFU finale surely you must remember the Claire driving scene and how they flashed forward to the near future with Willow's birthday party and then kept jumping, later and later...(that montage destroys me btw, I know the finale of this show will too), believe me, they tore a page from Alan Ball's book.
On 4/13/2022 at 10:01 AM, absnow54 said:I think the "woman he sleeps with at Kate's wedding" is supposed to be significant. They've established that Sophie was married at Kate's engagement party, but we don't know her status at the wedding. Madison was pregnant at the engagement party, and not pregnant at the wedding, so some amount of time has passed between the engagement party and the wedding. I think Sophie is still very likely to be the wife at this point.
Someone needs to try to put the scenes into chronological order. We see Toby bond and attend birthday parties before the wedding, so it's possible he saw that things would get better before he met Parfait Woman.
Oh yeah, the Kevin romance at the wedding is most definitely significant and I just know, lol, that the writers are trying to throw us off by showing Kevin gazing longingly at Sophie while sitting with Cassidy. Honestly, at this point I am expecting Sloane to pop up at the winery in Spain, on vacation or something.
On 4/13/2022 at 12:24 PM, CountryGirl said:I guess I am a sap deep down because I liked seeing everyone happy in the 2043 flash forward. Toby with Laura, Kate with Philip (and so much for them not lasting), and Jack and Lucy.
Me too. I was relieved to see them alive in the future and getting along. I've known couples who have actually become very close with their respective spouses years down the road. At first I thought that was the case, but then Jack was like, "You're both here", like it was kind of rare.
On 4/13/2022 at 1:17 PM, Tango64 said:The writers suddenly realized they had written no personality for Phillip or any reason for us or Kate to like him. So they went into overdrive and instantly turned him into a happy, smiling, charming Hugh Grant lite.
Then they had to give him a sympathetic back story, again in an instant. Quick! Get all this down on paper!
Here's me watching that scene:
Phillip: I was married. She had a crooked nose. She was blind.
Me: Okay, the blind bit is a little much, but okay.
Phillip: We went through three rounds of IVF. She didn't want to quit trying. It was brutal. It ruined our relationship.
Me: Okay, I went through exactly the same thing, rings true... Gives your character some depth.
Phillip: So we broke up. She got in a cab and left without saying goodbye.
Me: Aww, that's sad. Well, not a bad effort at giving you a sympathetic backst...
Phillip: And then a drunk driver hit her and she died instantly.
Me: And now you went too far and fucked it up.
Yes! Exactly! My thoughts too. I was like, of course. Of course they haven't done much with Phillip so they throw a classic "sob story" at him.
I am already becoming tense at the end of this 6 year journey. I have a lot of criticism of the show, but overall I enjoyed it. I'm not a big tv person, but I was grabbed by TIU's trailer during the end of the 2016 Olympics...to the point where I reran the trailer 5 times. I had remembered in May of 2016 seeing a bit piece about the show, but then it was called 36. I then popped over to IMDB and found out the "twist". I love shows that jump back and forth in time and life (and books!) Plus the show introduced me to Justin Hartley who is a treasure.
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On 3/28/2022 at 5:29 PM, Dreamboat Annie said:
Of course Randall and Beth have three daughters. Annie is the youngest. She is very cute and seems sweet. But as cute and sweet as she may be, I don't need or want to see more of her. I feel she is shown with the family appropriately.
And heaven forbid, a story line of her own. There's a reason soap kids are routinely afflicted with RAS (Rapid Aging Syndrome). Young kids are incredibly boring on adult shows. I used to like it on soaps where the desperately distraught mom overacted for 11 months, and less than 10 seconds after being reunited with her kidnapped baby, gets a sly look on her face, turns to the kidnapped baby she hasn't seen in 11 months and says "I think I saw Nanny baking cookies in the kitchen and I heard she needs help decorating them... NOW SCOOT!!". And with a gentle shove, off goes Junior who we don't see for another two years when he returns as a 16 year old.
I'm okay with young kids being nothing more than props and vessels for the adult story lines on adult shows.
Lol. I'm sitting in bed right now reading the forum and was literally just pondering how it seems like yesterday the kids were born, the new Big Three. Of course there's a 6 year time jump! But then remembered back to the my soap addiction in the 80s, early 90s when they'd age a child 16 years the next summer! Adam Chandler and Dixi's on All My Children and Bianca! More interesting!
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I am thinking 1990? Rebecca said Jack had stepped up as dad a few years before which was 88? 89? And the kids looked the same as they did at the tenth bday party with Sophie and the Princess Bride. My brother got the Nintendo set with Mario game I for Christmas 1990 and played it religiously through 1991.