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3 minutes ago, pieinmyeye said:Those poor animals break my heart.
Big Apple Circus only uses rescued dogs who when they aren't in the circus live on a farm with their trainer. Thankfully the Barnum and Bailey Circus is gone. I never took my kids and I hated going when I was a kid. We went once and that was it.
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Tinsley needs a really good therapist.Stat!
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This is the most boring episode and I love this franchise. But this episode was so bad.
I love Tins and think she's beautiful but she looks like Joan Crawford's character in whatever happened to Baby Jane or maybe it was Bette Davis' character. The tears don't help.
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3 minutes ago, ChitChat said:
That's how I felt about the situation all along. Maybe Carole didn't want to hurt Bethenny's feelings with the truth, but then it snowballed and got out of control. I think Carole just got so aggravated that she then snapped at Andy. Again, I wouldn't be too broken up about losing this gig. I think it would be better for her credibility if she just quietly walks away from it.
That would be nice but she hasn't quietly walked away from it. At all.
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3 minutes ago, bencr said:
I think this comment is spot on, but I don't think Carol was consistently honest about these feelings. I think Carol tried to make it seem that it was Bethenny's fault the friendship ended when, in fact, it was Carole whose attitude changed. Bethenny was, is and always will be a demanding, exhausting friend, and Carole just grew tired of it. Carole should have just admitted to these feelings to Bethenny instead of just growing more and more remote in their friendship.
Exactly! Bethenny will always be who she is. She doesn't hide her personality. When you aren't on the receiving end of her insults she, i guess, can be quite fun to be with. She's funny, sarcastic, etc. However, that gets old. Carole needed to just say that instead of dancing around the fact that she no longer wanted to be B's friend. The end.
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The thing that aggravates me about Carole is that she is acting like she is this innocent person who never was a bully herself.
The things she said about Luann when she first came on was her being a bully. She says bad things about everyone. THEY ALL DO!!! That's the point of these shows right? they are all narcissists because you would have to be to think that other people want to watch you live your life.
She should have just told Bethenny that we have grown apart. I'm sorry but there it is. It's nothing you did or if it is something she did then JUST TELL HER!
The barrage of texts B sent was excessive, however, this is the main way people communicate these days. So when C wasn't responding I can see B getting more and more upset. I get crazy when my friends don't reply back and I thing OMG what did I do to piss them off. I don't send multiple emails but that's me. These women are on a whole different level. Carole's "it's too much" wasn't the right way to stop B's texts. She should have just said...everything is fine, let's talk when I get home. It doesn't sound like C even replied to Beth at all which could be why she kept texting. I'm not talking about the time she was on the plane and turned her phone off but after.
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An interesting thing about their shouting match was this:
Bethenny : And I wasn't all those things last year? Did I suddenly become all those things you say I am?
Carole then said something like well, I did sort of see it or something like that. Please stop Carole. Just stop with that. You didn't give a crap that Bethenny was the same person last year when she was whisking you away here and there. You were just fine with her personality until you weren't. Bethenny is the same person she has always been.
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47 minutes ago, ShawnaLanne said:
Yes Carole. If everything you say is okay because it's true, well, Bethenny is telling truths too.
This! It's true Carole has no career. Truth. Carole has no kids. Truth.
Bethenny likes to dominate the conversation. Truth. Bethenny likes things to be about herself. Truth.
So Carole why is your truth less hurtful than hers?
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Hi ! I have to go back to read all your comments but ... this... was.. hilarious
Carole: You said Ramona was evil
Ramona: Thanks Bethenny
Bethenny: you're welcome.
LOL ! Bethenny is reading her phone while Carole said that and without looking up she gave a quick bland "you're welcome" to Ramona. So funny!
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5 minutes ago, AnnA said:
She did it because Bravo/Andy wanted her to. It's her job.
This. I think this is also why Andy was getting so pissy about this. He wanted B to be there and to get out of the car while they were filming. Clearly it was okay with Jill since she invited them or whatever. B knows her role. She plays it very well.
All of these ladies try to carve out a storyline. Something interesting in their lives that viewers will want to comment on and anxiously await the next segment of said saga. However, when most of these (actually all of them) are single there's no man to talk about. No man to create drama with so they must create a lot of drama among themselves. I know there is always drama with the group man or no man but at least when there IS a significant other there is more stuff to talk about and to.
So this year re: storyline...
Carole: her marathon, Her off again relationship with Adam, Friendship with Tinsley and yes of course her feud with B which got more traction than any of the other stuff she had going on.
Dorinda: Unfortunately for her, her storyline was her drinking and all the insanity that comes from that.
Ramona: nothing. Not..a..thing..except how B is unsupportive. Can anyone name one thing that was interesting about her this year?
Sonja: Her friendship with B. Her mini feud with Dorinda. Her slippers.
Luann: well that goes without saying
Tinsley: that goes without saying too. She's too vanilla for this show but I like her.
Bethenny: Honestly I guess it's feuding with most of these women. Every episode this year someone is upset with her. Her apartment, her divorce, her daugher..none of those things were anywhere around this year. I mean she went on vacation and she came back to her apartment. Great.
All this is to say these ladies need some other kind of drama. It's getting a little old with them screaming and yelling at each other all the time.
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1 hour ago, NYCNJbear06 said:
This reunion is shaping up to be the shitshow that reunions have been known for. LUV IT
If I were Sonja I would have smacked the shit out of Ramona for putting her hands on me to cover my mouth. WHO DA HELL are u to lay hands on me to silence me in that way. So rude and disrespectful. I’m surprised no one called her out on that.
Side note – can we not use the narcissism tag anymore? ALL YOU BITCHES ARE NARCISSISTIC and that goes across the board of all the housewives franchise. It is narcissistic to feel that your life is so fabulous and wonderful that you feel you should be on TV. ALL ARE GUILTY OF IT!
Dorinda, Dorinda, Dorinda Jesus take the wheel and the bottle! One thing I hate about not having a good moderator (Lookin at you Andy…) is that there are lil nuggets revealed that need to be focused on. The crux of the Nutcracker argument is that Dorinda felt that Beth didn’t thank her ENOUGH ON CAMERA. Not that B didn’t thank her because we saw on film that she did its that D felt she should have thanked her more on camera. For these women they feel if it doesn’t happen on camera it didn’t happen.
Dorinda does have a drinking problem. I wouldn’t go so far to say that she is an alcoholic because (IMO) that is a label only one can give themselves. It is a declaration of self-realization that one has a problem and a label can’t be placed on you by someone else. That being said, yes Dorinda you have a drinking problem. There are multiple scenes where you are drunk slurring your words but more specifically by admission when you are drunk you say and do things that you regret the next day tearfully. If you can’t see that it is a problem that your drinking is making you act out of character (in your mind) and not accurately reflecting your “true self” then that is a drinking problem. The things you said to Luann, as someone you say is a true friend, was cruel and below the belt. Also, if you are only giving an apology because you want the other person to apologize as well that you aren’t giving a genuine apology and shouldn’t give it.
Ramona is UNHINGED and its sad to see. “Moderator” Andy (insert eyeroll) should have asked “Ramona, why is it so important to you to have Beth’s approval?” I think Ramona is jealous of B’s Skinny Girl success and that is why she keeps bringing up personal things to knock her down a peg. B in her defense gives ZERO Fucks about anyone especially Ramona and that grates on Ramona. If you are comfortable and confident in your own success, then who cares what anyone else says? B’s point is that she doesn’t consider R “successful” because she has all of these businesses that failed and she jumps around a lot. To B’s credit she has stuck with Skinny Girl and expanded and diversified its brand.
Next episode looks like it will focus on the Carole and Beth divorce. One thing I hope they focus on will be the discrepancy in stories that Beth and Carole state about the text. That was when B said she was hurt by Carole’s response after she texted her (paraphrasing) that the strain on their friendship was bothering her and that she misses her and Carole coldly responded, “This is too much”. At the dinner Carole told a different story of what happened where she admitted that yes B said that but she also unloaded a lot of other stuff over text and that her “this is too much” response pertained to ALL of the texts and because she had just landed after a flight it was too much to go into over text and they should speak when she got back in town which was the dinner that they were at. Hopefully someone will call B on her redefining history to suit her own needs.
LOVE THIS POST!!! They are ALL Narcissists! They are all bitchy and catty. Everything they complain about that the other is doing they do too.
I agree with everything else you said but this one point is what drives me bananas about what happened last night. ALL OF YOU do the same exact shit you are screaming at B about.
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10 hours ago, Pop Tart said:
I think Bethenny should have responded to this by admitting yes that is so. When she thought Sonja had a bunch of fake start ups, businesses that were nothing more then a pre-launch, she called Sonja on it. Same thing she’s done with Ramona. But when Sonja has an actual product, the shoes, she is supportive or at the least acknowledges that, yeah, you’ve got something going. The times they’re calling her unsupportive are those times when a HW announces this or that business venture that doesn’t yet, and probably never will, exist. Sonja’s toasters, Ramona’s skincare, etc.
I thought she did that. I heard her say something like that right after they showed that old clip of her putting Sonja down. She said "but now she has a real business and I support her" or something like that.
Can I just say that I giggled every time one of those ladies said "bologna". LOL.
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1 minute ago, QuinnM said:
Oh, Carole, Carole, Carole, he’s mad at you and we just started. Turn off your phone.
He gave her a look my mother used to give me when I would curse in front of her.
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I haven't really picked a side in this whole matter
However, if Bethenny wanted to go the sole custody route she should have known there would be no punches held on the other side. What is her reasoning exactly for not wanting Jason in Brynn's life as a real father who helps make decisions for her. What did he do that was so horrendous? Ok he followed her and was getting hostile. Let me tell you I would get hostile, too, if my spouse was trying to keep me away from my kid. She got the restraining order and all was well. Now she still wants full custody? for what? The only person she is hurting is Brynn. A child needs TWO parents if they have the luxury of having them. This is just selfish. She doesn't like Jason. She doesn't want to answer to Jason. She doesn't want Brynn anywhere near him. So she files for sole custody. Nice. If I were Jason I would use every single trick in the book to make sure my rights weren't taken away. It's dirty and malicious to bring in the death of her boyfriend but that's too damn bad when it comes to his daughter. Bethenny fights dirty all the time. He can and should. As for what Brynn is going to say to her father years later when she finds out how he saved their relationship well maybe she'll be thankful. I know I would be. How many kids are out there who would kill for a parent to fight for them. Parents always say they would die for their kids. Jason isn't dying for Brynn but he's fighting for her in every way he can. Bethenny should just go for joint. It's better for Brynn and in the long run Brynn will be better for it.
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Okay here's another question re: Dorinda and her drinking. Why are these ladies always have before party drinks? There were plenty of drinks at the actual show why do we have to drink before as well. These women know how she is when she drinks too much yet they are constantly supplying her with alcohol.
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Just now, Martinigirl said:
When she was stomping away when Bethenny didn't bite?
Someone did a GIF on the walking away and after a few watches of it ...she looked like Joan Rivers.
Ramona get your own story and stop trying to create drama where it doesn't exist. Bethenny has moved on from you. Get the hint.
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48 minutes ago, chenoa333 said:
This episode: Bethany's face is starting to morph into Rachel Ray. Not a bad thing. Rachel is cute.
I can't believe the petty shit that offends these women. Hey Dorinda, just bring John to the cabaret even if he WASN'T invited. Then, if the Countess gets upset rather than welcoming John, you should definitely be pissed off.
This! She should have just brought him. She's a grown woman. It's not Luann's apartment it's a public venue. Instead she got more and more pissed as the day dragged on and then topped it off with a lot of alcohol.
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It took me a moment to get my eyes unglazed after the initial shot of them at the reunion. Damn that's a lot of gold black and silver
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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love how that segment just ended with Dorinda's voice saying "Can I get another drink" . Nice editing Bravo.
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2 minutes ago, ShawnaLanne said:
I kind of love how she always loves it.
Me too. She was really into it. I liked how Beth was taping the whole thing. They were supportive.
1 minute ago, Fiero425 said:OMG, Dorinda was leaving and going out the door before a conflict, but that comedienne stopped her! "Watch out LU; you're in trouble!" ;-)
I'm very skeptical that she was actually leaving. She was itching for a fight. She can't have one if she leaves.
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LOL at Ramona dancing to this non song.
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Just now, Rosiejuliemom said:
Yeah, Dorinda is pissed and just itching for a fight.
She needs to chill the fuck out about the dresses.
She's pissed and drunk. Not a good combo. Usually she drinks then gets pissed. But this time she was pissed before. This won't end well.
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Just now, nexxie said:
Lu’s better talking than singing - funny!
Yes since she's awful at singing.
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Why is Tinsley telling Dorinda this? Scott isn't even coming. It's one thing if Scott was coming.
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S11.E09: Tears of a Clown
in The Real Housewives Of New York City
They are rescued too. They've always done this. This is the only circus my kids were allowed to go to.