Partygirl

I'm watching The Golden Girls right now, as I type this response...on LOGO, no less. To be followed by several episodes of Designing Women. I'm thrilled :-) and a 32 year old, straight female. But about this show...no Julian/Alexis/Julexis, chances are I'm not watching. I tune in for them, specifically, and watch other stuff if it cathes my eye or doesn't insult my intellegence. That doesn't happen very often, unfortunately.

Me too! It's like Christmas and Cleopatra all rolled into one :-) Thank God for WdV and NLG. I love them...I do. I enjoyed today. I'll enjoy the next time these two grace my screen. And I'm already stockpiling the tisues and vodka in preparation of the inevitable angst headed my way.

I don't believe she does. My whole point is, in Molly's head, past actions matter--at least Julian's do. But her father is as much of a cretin as she believes Julian is and if she knew that maybe she'd be less of ingrate to her mother. That's my problem with the whole story...not that Molly believes her Dad and wants to stand by him, not that Molly is distrustful of Julian. But I'm tired of watching a little girl, who has lived a charmed fucking life, excoriate her mother because she dares--DARES--to believe Julian instead of Ric. It's unbalanced storytelling--Molly is the only David girl with a POV and because of that, Alexis looks stupid. I hate that.

It only makes Alexis look stupid because the audience is omnicient in this case. Julian hasn't given Alexis any reason to doubt him in this matter, and she loves him so of course she's going to believe him. What I find so stupid is Molly's unwaivering confidence in her father. And her shitty treatment of her mother for believing Julian instead of a man that repeatedly humiliated and degraded her. Yes, I realize she's right in this instance, but Ric is far from a model citizen. Her justification to Sam today made me roll my eyes then laugh out loud. Ric can't possibly be a bad guy because he's been practicing law in L.A. for the last five years? Is five years the statute of limitations on past crimes? Because you know what, Molly, about seven years ago he was fucking your sister in your mother's home. He was having your mom jailed for medicial marajuana use while she was dying from cancer. He was abusing his power as DA, framing your sister and uncle for crimes neither committed. None of that matters though? That can't possibly be why Sam, Alexis, Nik, even Liz doubt or doubted Ric's innocence. But Julian has been in the mob for a year so he's automatically untrustworthy? Gah...I hate this one-sided, lazy writing.

Heh...this show. So unintentionally hilarious. Really, I'm supposed to see Julian as WORSE than Sonny? Gah...go peddle this shit elsewhere, Show. Julian has done plenty of dishonorable things--he, at least, seems to be aware of his shady past--and he's likely headed straight to Hell, but Sonny, when he arrives, he's still going to have to wait in line behind YOU! I don't understand those scenes AT ALL. Was I supposed to cheer for Sonny? Am I supposed to see Sonny as morally superior? I can't even type that without laughing. And it's not just because I hate Sonny. Really, it's not! Julian's the BIG BAD because he framed an innocent man to protect his family, but Sonny's THE MAN for killing an innocent man to...help me out here? What honorable reason justifies Sonny killing AJ? And fucking his son's girlfriend is just A-OK because...?? This is just the dumbest thing! Whoever it was--on this board-- that came up with this phrase: "The stupid. It burns." deserves a literary prize.

While true, you know what the best part will be? Watching characters and viewers turn themselves into pretzels to justify how Ric lying to protect his family is somehow more noble than Julian lying to protect his family. When the walls come crashing down, and they will, Ric be a HERO. And that makes me so crazy I cannot form corherrent thoughts...ajkfhc sklmfnkjas dklsjcnhjfnhwe fnwiofjfj...DAMN. IT.

Molly...Molly...Molly...shut up, shut up, SHUT UP!! I have said before, and I still maintain that she's not wrong to believe in her dad, and in this instance--because the audience knows the truth--she's right to do so. But she HAS GOT TO STOP talking shit to and about her mother and the reasons why Alexis believes Julian over Ric. It's so one-sided and smacks of white-washing Ric's past crimes purely for sympathy. Molly, honey, you believe your father because you love him and trust him, right? And he's not given you a reason, other than being absent for most of your life, not to trust him, right? Well, that's the EXACT situtation your mother is in. See, she loves and trusts Julian, and doesn't know of any reason why she shouldn't believe and trust him. Not trusting you father? Well, there's a truckload of reasons for that! And FU Ric Lansing! The worst thing you ever did was leave Molly? To be raised in a stable and loving home. That's the WORST thing you've ever done? Not framing your daughter's sister and uncle for crimes neither committed, or for putting a hit out on your daughter's sister? Not screwing your daughter's sister while married to her mother? Not having your daughter's mother jailed while she was suffering from cancer? Sorry, pal, that last one take the cake, and if you had any self-awarness at all, you'd see the karmic justice in your current plight. If there was just a little bit of reflection, or even a slight defense of Molly's mother when that entitled little brat is spewing garbage about her mother, I might care that you're wrongfully accused, but until then..sorry, no dice. Seriously...all it would take is the following comment, "Hey, Molly, ease off your mom. She has her reasons, very good reasons, for not believing in me."

Ugh...Molly! Do you always have to be an entitled little snot? I guess you get that trait from your father. And I'm not looking forward to the inevitable gloating you'll do once the truth comes out. Molly can stand by her dad and she doesn't have to trust Julian. She can even ask her mother why she won't help her father, but this "you'll help all your other daughters' mobster fathers but mine" argument grates on my last nerve. I'm going to need someone, ANYONE, to clue in Miss Molly about all the heinous things her father did to her mother. Maybe then she'll be able to buy a clue as to why Alexis doesn't trust Ric. Molly is not in the wrong for being upset and wanting to stand by her father, and I don't take issue with her feelings. I take issue with the shitty way she treats her mother! Again, she must get that trait from her father. Hey, Mol...it's thanks to your mother that you've lived such a charmed life.

Me too. I swore up and down I'd never ship another couple on this or any other show--it only leads to heartbreak and the constant feeling of having to throw up. But goddammit all to hell if Julian/Alexis don't make it worth it. I'm completely powerless over my obession with this twosome. I need help. I pray to the soap gods you're right and that is the case! And Julian wouldn't even have to work that hard for my forgiveness...upsetting Molly hardly trumps keeping Lucas, Sam, Danny, and/or Alexis alive. That said, I will enjoy daughter f'cker cooling his heels in a jail cell--karmic justice for all the shit he put Alexis through. Made more delicious given that it comes at the hands of Alexis' current love. What I wouldn't give for a scene, when this is all said and done, and Molly is copping an attitude with Alexis about staying with Julian, for Sam to sit her little sister down and explain how Julian setting Molly's father up for a crime he didn't commit in order to bring down the real bad guy, pales in comparision to the hurt her father caused their mother when he willing screwed her sister in her mother's home. Pipe dream...I know.