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Read on AV Club that it will be an August release. Also Elizabeth Debicki’s character has been recast and played by The Dag.
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58 minutes ago, Llywela said:
The run of the mill utopia I took as homage to previous Treks.
Yes. I was chafing at it as lukewarm Trek plot, but by then end I settled into and embraced it. But, man does Sutra (eyeroll) totally rock the Studio 54 Halston jumpsuit and Cher hair. Was expecting to see her in some shots with Andy Warhol.
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I'll will fess up as a middle age white man that may watch too much Dark, Serious and Important shows, but I've really enjoyed the first two episodes.
The actresses in this were outstanding, and I was rooting for them. The plot, while a bit tropey, I didn't mind. The ending, while a bit head scratching, made me happy.
This episode was good for my soul.
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30 minutes ago, scrb said:
Did Andy drive back after he got down the road and that let him get shot?
You wouldn’t expect these people to know how to deal with a sniper who’s a better shot than them but they seemed to unnecessarily put themselves in danger, like Andy trying to make a run for it and especially if he came back for some reason.
Or Howie trying to pull him out when he was probably dead or Claude’s brother being out in the open or Holly screaming at Jack, though miraculously, that broke El Cuco’s spell and Jack stopped, then killed himself.
In all cases they were trying to do the right thing but made themselves easy to get picked off.
Then the conversation in the cave, kind of ridiculous. Nor did we really need to see the aftermath where they try to give the cops a plausible story, so that they’re not looked upon as kooks.
HBO is calling it a season finale. I would hope Lehane and Price would have the integrity to decline doing another season, though they may be tempted by the money and the popularity of this miniseries to do it again. Of course HBO could also hire someone else to do it.
Andy was killed and the car rolled forward. His initial idea was to leave to an area he could get a cell signal.
The goal of the plausible story was to get Terry’s name cleared as much as to not look like kooks.
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27 minutes ago, patty1h said:
RIP Andy, Howie, Seale and Alex. Snakebit Jack was a dumb way end to his reign of terror. I had an eyeroll at that.
After 10 hours of this, I didn't find the ending worth the time I spent watching. Is that how the book ended? I'm not thrilled with that "is Holly next?" credits reveal. Not sure I care.
Will answer book question generally:SpoilerThe ending was similar. Alec and Howie die; Seale and Andy aren’t in the book. Jack was bitten by a rattlesnake, but he didn’t invite it to do so, and Ralph killed him. In the book, Holly killed him by bashing The Outsider’s head in with an athletic sock filled with ball bearings — something she learned in other King books. Also in the book, Claude wasn’t at the cave.
Having Holly scratched at the end was a tropey tweak, but nothing would happen to her since El Cuco is dead.On the whole, I really enjoyed the series and hope they have another based on Ms. Erivo’s Holly.
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On 3/2/2020 at 6:20 PM, scottiB said:
Am rewatching it now, and I agree. I think that when all is said and done, Terry Maitland will be exonerated, and this murderer will be tagged for Frankie Peterson's.
Allow myself to quote myself, but I wonder if at the end we find that Glory killed this boy to create doubt for Terry. And no one knows.
I doubt it, but would be a neat turn to my demented self.
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13 hours ago, FoundTime said:
I don't know why, but I think the new child murder is a red herring. A plot device to get TPTB to sit up and take notice.
Am rewatching it now, and I agree. I think that when all is said and done, Terry Maitland will be exonerated, and this murderer will be tagged for Frankie Peterson's.
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He got Alec. Should have listened to the pennies.
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8 hours ago, Cheezwiz said:
The book does not offer an explanation, but in both the book & show, it's implied that this creature (or perhaps there are multiple creatures around the globe) is eternal, and has been a part of human folklore all over the world since the beginning of time. Ancient child eating monsters are a favourite trope of Stephen King (see "IT"). Could be that only now our modern technology is able to catch people on camera, and allows people from far flung places to communicate quickly and compare notes.
When Creature-Claude was describing the pre-historic bears sharpening their claws on the roof of the cave, I was wondering if he knew their size because he’s lived that long and seen them. Perhaps fed along side them
Current access to cameras and technology hasn’t hindered El Cuco, the NYC bartender was also filmed by her cousin as as alibi, but that didn’t help her. It was accepting the possibility of El Cuco that is its apparent downfall. Book spoiler:
SpoilerWhen Ralph and Holly confront the creature:
“Yet I’ve taken others who had strong alibis and immaculate reputations. With evidence and eyewitness testimony, the alibis and reputations make no difference. People are blind to explanations that lie outside their perception of reality. You should never have come looking for me. You never should have even sensed me, no matter how strong his alibi was. Yet you did.”
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2 hours ago, iMonrey said:
I wonder if Glory played a bigger role in the book (haven't read it). The character on the show feels sort of peripheral to the main story.
Will answer this generally. If you want more detail, I can answer in the book v show thread: she is just as peripheral. Perhaps more so.
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20 hours ago, PrincessPurrsALot said:
Bear Grylls drinking fluid squeezed from elephant poop (Sure, it was within the main segment. Just want to make sure we don't forget that bit of horror.
I can't ever. I rarely turn my head and close my eyes to something on TV (even last week's Roger Stone sartorial montage), but I just..couldn't...watch it.
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6 hours ago, kay1864 said:
What kid goes walking off with a stranger? Does the book explain this better than the series?
The festival and thwarted child napping is a show creation.
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1 hour ago, enchantingmonkey said:
I loved watching each of them deal with Holly's theory in varying ways. Glory was willing to consider that her own beloved husband violently murdered a boy rather than accept that the supernatural could be involved.
You put it very succinctly what I was thinking. I really am enjoying watching all of the perspectives. Holly is the most logical and cop-like. Yune believes more, but him following the bar manager make sense if you follow the facts. Ralph is just staring at drawings that are obviously related but can't make the leap. This is really well done.
I liked the Andrews Sisters, Beat Me, Daddy, Eight to the Bar, reference when Jacks's mom was punching him. That scene really veered into Stephen King-land, and the song reference follows old-school pop culture references in his books.
One thing I'll handwave: 28 days murder cycle is too tight not to be discovered nationally. These a gruesome murders in crazy cases (one in NYC), and they couldn’t have NOT been noticed on a national level.
I've read the book, and I really enjoyed it as a book. Price, et al, have pushed it out to a 10 episode series that, thus far, makes great TV in keeping the book's tone and style. Really good examples of each media form.
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10 minutes into watching this episode, and I never want to hear him referred to as “JL” again.
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Due to the Super Bowl, this episode is streaming early. It’s on HBO Go now.
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6 hours ago, blixie said:
Eh Maria's brother and uncle were hitting on waitress and yucking it up in bar they weren't exactly grief stricken when they got blown away.
No, but the grandfather was -- which is why he killed them. They didn't kill themselves. I'm just surprised the grandfather didn't kill himself after he shot them. Then is would have been a 2 for 1.
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Apologies for stating the obvious, but Patrick Stewart acts the shit out of Jean-Luc Picard. His acting during the interview was profound. Felt like I was watching TNG.
CBS All Access; you've forced my to accept your $10/month fee.
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Between episodes 3 and 4, I read the book and quite enjoyed it. Was the first King I've read since It 30 years ago or so.
I was wondering how they were going to fill 7 episodes when Holly didn't appear until half-way through the book, but I like what the producers did by going backwards in the murders and adding the one in NYC.
I also liked that the receptionist invited Holly in after the tear gassed her. In the book, Holly looked for the retirement home's poorest employee and bribed the nurse (which is where I thought it was going to go when Holly asked for money in twenties and fifties).
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2 hours ago, iMonrey said:
In the previous cases it was the family of the murdered child who all died - not the family of the doppelganger. I don't reckon Terry's family to be in a particular danger, at least not from the Coco.
Heath's family all died: his brother by overdose; his mother by driving into telephone pole. Maria's father and uncle were shot and killed in a bar by the victim's father (who didn't commit suicide onscreen, if he did at all). Her family did take a hit.
I agree with you that Terry's family is fine but because they weren't overcome by grief. They are grieving, yes, but not open to suggestion. The daughter told Ralph, that the night visitor didn't make her scared, he made her angry. Glory is angry about the situation: Ralph, the school, the neighbors.
I think that's why, perhaps, he needs to have Jack kill a deer for him. He lost out on desert calories.
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New preview, and it looks amazing.
Wow.
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They are here: Rotten Tomatoes .
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She will not be. Just Ana. Not sure if this is the “official” podcast nor sure if the authors will be joining.
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Though the show has moved from SyFy, it will continue the podcast, The Churn, with Ana Marie Cox now hosting. Clip with the cast at NYC Comic Con.
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“I bet you clap on the 1 and the 3 don’t you.”
...dying...
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S03.E06: Chapter Twenty Two - Guns for Hire
in The Mandalorian
After listening to a few podcasts before watching, I was expecting to dislike this episode. Just finished, and I loved it. LOVED IT.
They can get back to grim serious for the next two episodes.