[Meri Brown and her Wet Bar of Tears]

6 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

She actually wasn’t defending him. She received many messages placing blame. She addressed it again in the comments because people just didn’t get it.

 

 

Yes, I should have said that she was speaking out for him (which is what she was, really) regarding some people blaming him for Garrison's death. It was definitely aimed at those who were targeting Kody rather than just a general statement about how no one is to blame for another person's act of suicide (btw, I agree).

My daughter has had two suicide attempts (she did not succeed, thankfully) and I know now that it is a very complex issue. She has gotten professional help, but has had mental health struggles including a recent stay in the behavioral health unit over the Christmas holiday, in part because she decided to stop taking her meds. She is an adult and no one can force an adult into any king of mental health or addiction treatment--so no, I do not blame Kody.

[Meri Brown and her Wet Bar of Tears]

On 4/26/2024 at 12:08 PM, Sandy W said:

Something went awry once Kody married Janelle, long before the catfish put the final nail in the coffin. 

Could be that Meri defensively lorded it over Janelle and then Christine to maintain her position of power. This was not the harmonious blending of happy homemakers that Kody had envisioned.

I feel that Meri was, and in some ways still is, very "proprietary" over Kody. As if he was somehow more "hers" because she was there first. Meri felt that she and Kody started this family together--it was "theirs." And until Robyn came in and staged a bloodless coup, Meri still felt that way despite her failing relationship with Kody.

Even after Garrison's death, Meri was defending Kody on one of her lives. I'm not saying she was wrong, but why doesn't the man defend himself if he is being unfairly blamed? I don't see Kody defending Meri against any abuse accusations.

[Baby Reindeer - General Discussion]

2 hours ago, marny said:

I don’t think we were supposed to see him as the only victim or that he was too kind and considerate. He was an extremely damaged, self-hating person who was conflicted between his fear and anger about being stalked and his pleasure at being desired and made to feel important by Martha. He hated her but he missed her. And by the end, he was able to recognize that Martha was also a victim of her life as well and that the two of them weren’t so different. 

Re: bolded--I agree. I think that the aim of this piece is not to show Donny as a perfect person or victim, but to show the complexity of human nature and how our choices may affect circumstances and the people around us. Donny can be a victim and unlikeable at the same time. Martha can be a stalker and an occasionally sympathetic character at the same time.

Donny's first interaction with Martha was merely a kind gesture. However, I think the damage in Martha saw the damage in Donny and vice-versa-- at least subconsciously-- and the situation snowballed from there. 

If Richard Gadd wanted to portray himself as a perfect victim, he wouldn't have included his bad decisions and the effect they had on his loved ones in the series.

[Spoiler, Speculation and Social Media]

3 hours ago, laurakaye said:

This bugged me, along with Kody not sitting in between his own mother and Robyn.  I saw the snarky comments, and I understand why the comments were made, but those pictures that the National Guard published (and I am not clear on whether or not Janelle okay'd that beforehand) should have had the comments turned off.

But I found the body language interesting, as usual.  David and Christine were holding hands, as were Logan and Michelle and Aspyn and Mitch.  There was no actual need for Kody to grip Robyn's knee in the front row, in my useless opinion.  Both Kody and Robyn could've taken a hot second and reflected on how that physical demonstration might appear to Janelle and the rest of the family.  It could have been a simple adjustment to holding hands for support.  The hand on the knee seemed out of place for the somber, sad occasion.  Either those two have absolutely zero self-awareness, or they honestly just don't care.

The seating arrangement bugged me, too laurakaye. Why wasn't Kody sitting next to his mother? Why did he have to grasp Robyn's knee/lower thigh during what looked like a moment of silence? She was actually turned away from him at that moment towards Genielle. The body language seemed off to me. It's a little nit-picky, but I definitely noticed it.

I do understand that as Garrison's father he should be in the front row, and Robyn as his wife would sit next to him, but it bugged nonetheless.

Also, apparently Mykelti was on her Patreon say that she and Tony were getting "ripped apart" in the comment section of the NV National Guard pics. I saw overwhelmingly positive comments, with a few regarding her sneakers and Tony's hat. If you want to be on the show and making $$ from Patreon, Mykelti,  you're going to have to grow thicker skin.

[Robert Garrison Brown - RIP]

Omg, I was hoping it wasn’t true. My heart breaks for Janelle and his loved ones..

[S18.E23: Christine & David’s Wedding Special (Part One)]

I have to say that the wedding venue is stunning! Christine and David couldn’t have picked a more beautiful setting for their ceremony. If I ever get out to Utah, I’d love to stay at that lodge.

[Robyn Brown: She wanted the family, but got stuck with the man.]

34 minutes ago, MMEButterfly said:

I agree. Robyn is in it for the show business and has been all along. 

Actually, if Robyn ever did leave Kody, I shudder to think how he’d react. He has put Robyn up on a pedestal and seems to base his whole life around  the fact that he has a “perfect” soulmate.

[S18.E16: One on One: Part 2]

On 12/6/2023 at 6:23 PM, SemiCharmedLife said:

You and me both!  Many people are upset with Christine for sharing Meri's ring story.  And, I agree that story should have been Meri's to tell...but she didn't!  The viewing audience has been bamboozled for years as the Browns served up their version of a happy polygamous family- one that we now know isn't true.  I'm all about Christine or whoever (even Meri with her promise that her voice will be heard) spilling ALL the tea.  We deserve it and they signed up for this exact thing.

Speaking of the ring story, why wasn't Kody asked about it as well as Meri? It was his story to tell, too. The producers pitted two women against each other rather than holding the man who did the horrible thing accountable! Even if he refused to answer why he did it, it would have been more fair to at least have asked the question and watch him squirm.

[Meri Brown and her Wet Bar of Tears]

Not that Meri cares about my opinion, but here's my 2 cents worth-- I think she needs a softer look around the face. Her eyes are striking, but the rest of her features are a little "coarse?" if I'm using the term correctly. The extreme side part does her no favors, either; she should choose an off-center or less severe side part, imo.

The color is nice, but why is the hair so stiff looking? For all the messy look, it doesn't seem to have much movement.

[S18.E17: One on One: Part 3]

18 minutes ago, Pixilicious said:

I'm surprised he didn't say "self defecation"

Right, because he’s full of 💩!

Robyn never remembers anything that doesn’t fit her narrative— she’s the Kato Kaelin of Sister Wives.

[S18.E16: One on One: Part 2]

I went back and watched episodes when Kody was courting Robyn and in a few scenes he definitely was wearing a gold wedding band that appeared to have a few tiny diamonds. It was not a claddagh ring.

Robyn lied.

[Spoiler, Speculation and Social Media]

14 minutes ago, dariafan said:

Another way meri and kootie are too much alike.  They both want to drop bombs 

There’s too many secrets in this family. Meri loves to have secrets between her and another person — she gives off “I know something you don’t know 🎶” energy.

[Spoiler, Speculation and Social Media]

2 hours ago, 65mickey said:

I imagine that Kody and Robyn are going to start beating the drums to sell Coyote Pass. If Janelle and Meri are smart they will play hardball with him and tell him no sale

on the jointly owned property unless the proceeds are divided up 4 ways. And they best have an attorney draw up the papers prior to any sale. if they trust anything out of Kody's mouth they are fools.

I know it would never happen but I think the property should be split differently, with Meri and Janelle each getting 4 acres(shares) and Kody and Robyn getting 6 (as a unit).

They are the ones legally married and only need one home/household between them. Arizona is a community property state so Robyn and Kody are entitled to a portion of each other's assets should they split up (unlikely, imo) or one of them dies. Family money was used for part of the McMansion, which currently only belongs to K&R--and unless they are going to pay Meri and Janelle back, K&R should get less of the CP property.

Robyn has said that her assets will go to her kids only, and if Kody dies before her (which is statistically likely), all  of Kody's assets will go to her unless he states otherwise specifically in a will. 

[S18.E14: Always Darkest Before the Dawn]

When asked by Meri if he intended the family lot to go to the kids, Kody started to say "No" but Robyn shut him up real quick. 

[S18.E15: One on One: Part 1]

9 minutes ago, Roslyn said:

I'll add to your last statement that with Kody, it is also transactional. Kody will only give favor to those who serve his needs first and foremost. If your Kody currency runs dry then you no longer have anything to negotiate with.

...I really do hate using Kody language...

But being an Office fan, I can also picture Kody handing out his own version of "Schrute Bucks".

I agree, it’s almost “King Lear-like,” isn’t it?

i imagine that when Kody is old and infirm, the kids who received the most  favor will be the ones who give him the least attention.

[Spoiler, Speculation and Social Media]

25 minutes ago, Absolom said:

Yes, it was pay off the two lots that had loans or they could lose what they had put into them as they would revert to the seller.  

Kody likely dragged his feet about paying off the lots so that Janelle and Meri would step in to avoid foreclosure. 
Instead, Kody spent money on new jewelry for both himself and Robyn, artwork, a new four-wheeler, minibikes, etc.

Mykelti said that Kody thought of art as an investment rather than keeping $ under a mattress— perhaps it’s to hide money from the OG wives or the IRS?

[Meri Brown and her Wet Bar of Tears]

I could do without rehashing the catfish situation except for Meri to say she felt lonely and emotionally abandoned by Kody and  therefore got seduced by the attention given to her. 
I’d  rather hear about how the legal divorce affected her and how it actually came about, why they really moved to Flagstaff, what $$ was used to buy the McMansion, who contributed $$ for Coyote Pass, etc. 

[Kailyn: Kail Smash!]

On 11/21/2023 at 8:42 PM, oliviabenson said:

According to Chris the twins were born before Halloween. 

If it’s true her twins are 11-12 months younger than Rio.

It could be true--didn't she say she got pregnant sometime in March? Twins may come early, too so they may actually have been born and for whatever reason, Kail is keeping quiet for now.

[S18.E14: Always Darkest Before the Dawn]

2 hours ago, Mothra said:

The way that story goes in my family (and I think this may be more applicable to Crybrows' situation) is that the little girl wrote to Santa every year asking for a pony until Santa got sick of her asking and left her a stocking full of horseshit.  The next morning she triumphantly announced, "I had a pony, but look--it got away!"

Be careful what you wish for, Crybrows.  You just might get it, or it might just get away.

In Robyn’s case, the story would go, “she wanted a pony, but got a horse’s ass instead.”

[S14.E08: Party Week]

3 hours ago, TVbitch said:

I am rooting for Josh, he just kind of quietly does his best. Cristy reminds me of the singer Jewel.

I've never heard of caterpillar cake. Am I out of touch with current cakery trends, or is this just a UK thing?

I like Josh, too—most of his bakes seem like the ones I would reach for on a dessert table.

Caterpillar cakes are apparently very popular for kid birthdays in the Uk and are sold by many food retailers.

[Kailyn: Kail Smash!]

17 hours ago, Hedgehog2022 said:

Boys can be close when they're younger. But once those hormones kick in at about age 14...whoa...lots of physical fights and trash talking.  And seven? Close in age? That will be a lot of testosterone running wild in that house.

And in their pre-teen and teen years, they eat like ravenous animals, lol! Kail’s grocery bills are going to be huge!

[Spoiler, Speculation and Social Media]

2 hours ago, General Days said:

I feel like the Diesel brand was a weird pick for that. She might have done some print work in the 90s or 2000s. She was a cute girl, until she married Kody.

I can’t imagine a fundie woman doing Diesel ads—they were quite provocative and controversial.
Diesel jeans are expensive, maybe that’s why Kody chose that brand to brag about what a “hot” catch Robyn was.

[S18.E10: Don't Put All of Your Eggs in One Basket]

4 hours ago, laurakaye said:

Honestly, if these people wanted to get together for Christmas in neutral territory, just rent out the back room of a restaurant or a community room, or something.  We know they can't go to Kody's because that's his sacred bow-chicka-wow space with Robyn but they can't go to, say, Garrison's because that puts Kody at a disadvantage - Garrison could ask Kody to GTFO of his house and Kody knows it.

So spare me the tears made of air, Robyn.  You're not getting together because YOU don't want to get together, and we all know it - heck, even MERI knows it at this point so your goose has been cooked, lady.

Also, I heard a snippet from the last episode on a podcast, where Robyn was supposedly telling Kody to go pick up his other kids for school...she said, "that's going to be a problem" in this sing-songy voice that I didn't catch at first.  I'm no expert, but the way she spoke those words made it clear that she NEVER actually said those words, she was just doing what she always does - rewrites history in a pathetic attempt to make herself not look like the family-wrecker she is.

I’m sure Salsa Brava could accommodate the Browns for a private gathering. Invite everyone, and leave it up to each individual adult to decide if they want to attend.

Robyn and Kody have put the family in a “catch-22” situation— they can’t resolve their differences if they  don’t get together and they can’t get together until they resolve their differences.

At least Kody and Garrison and Gabe could meet in a neutral public place, in person, and have a discussion to try to make peace. A phone call or texting isn’t going to do anything positive now.

[S18.E09: Battle Lines are Drawn]

3 hours ago, BAForever said:

Late to the party, watching now after reading every comment. Gabe, Garrison, Gwen and Savannah are wise beyond their years. The three G's could barely contain their emotions. Love what Garrison said- "we won't chase you". Kody, you are sorry excuse for a man, a father, a human being. You don't deserve your 13 OG kids. 

When I watched that scene at the dinner table, I thought how much more mature the G’s were than their father. However, seeing Gabe ‘s face and Gwen holding back tears made me sad. No matter how big of a jerk their father is, he’s the only one they have.

My father died last year (aged 88) and even though I am an older adult, sometimes I wish I could still talk to him, ask him things, etc. We argued many times during my teens and twenties— often disagreeing on many issues including politics and religion. However, he always let me express myself, as long as I was respectful. 

[Christine Brown Woolley: Nacho Sister Wife Anymore]

Christine looks radiantly happy in the wedding pics and Janelle looks great, too. I do wonder if Meri was invited and decided not to come (due to her brother’s death) or if she wasn’t invited.

I hope Kody sees the pics and it feels like a knife in his other kidney.