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It seems like Syfy would've been a good option. Firefly premiered in '02 which is the same year Stargate SG1 switched to Syfy from Showtime, which required just as much if not more special effects. A year or two later is when Syfy picked up Battlestar Galactica, which also required a ton of effects and featured a Firefly shoutout in it's premiere.
11 hours ago, Kel Varnsen said:Was Firefly ever pitched to any other lower tier networks or cable channels that showed an interest? Like the kind that would offer less money but also have lower expectations. Back when I had time for that sort of thing, I remember watching a bunch of DVD sets for short lived tv shows. One of the common things I would hear on commentaries was creators saying they were made an offer from a lower level network but took the offer from the big network even though it was higher risk. For the Clerk's cartoon UPN made Kevin Smith an offer. It was less money but a bigger episode order. He went with ABC because it was considered a bigger network and more prestigious. He even said that if he went with UPN he would have probably got a whole season, while with ABC two episodes made it on TV. So it stories like that where it makes me hard to feel bad on behalf of creators, when their high risk shows get canned early.
I always wondered if one of the reasons Whedon went with Fox was his long-running complaint that Buffy would've gotten more awards had it aired on a bigger network.
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2 hours ago, DoctorAtomic said:
I don't think Firefly would have lasted more than maybe three either, but it's about being allowed to tell the story you want to tell and end the show how you want. From the jump, the network kept poking around.
It's just a bad look on the network's part.
Given where Whedon intended to take the show w/r/t Inara (sacrificial gang rape, yay!), it's probably for the best that the network did intervene (even if it wasn't for that reason).
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14 hours ago, Umbelina said:
WHY wasn't Irina's decision to actually try to kill Sydney more fleshed out? (I get it, eternal life trumps having a kid, but still.)
I get why Spy Daddy died, but that one also bother me. He couldn't have blown up the damn cave by tossing the bomb in?
I don't think I ever made if oast season three because I have no idea what you're talking about and I'm very, very glad. WTF? They killed Jack? One of the best tv dads? I will never finish this series.
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9 hours ago, Lamima said:
Like a poster up thread mentioned...V killing Bill and then Eve gets lovestruck is just icky. She should want pure vengeance.
She should, and she had a lot of anger about his death. But Eve is not a normal person having a normal response. She's been able to control her issue longer and better than others like her but this is a woman who dug a knife into her own leg while entranced by thoughts of Villanelle killing and knew exactly how she'd kill her husband if she wanted to. And those two incidents were just from the series premiere.
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Well, I'm calling bullshit on that being the truth about Kenny's death. Setting aside the fact that Kenny didn't scream as he fell, which is odd no matter how he died (and if he was dead before he hit the ground you'd expect that would have come out in an autopsy), he landed parallel to the building he was pushed from. And in the video of him and Konstantin he isn't hesitant or scared and in fact leaves the room before Konstantin of his own will. Now, if we're supposed to think that the scene of Kenny at his desk earing footsteps (after Eve has called him to accept his iffer of drinks) immediately proceeds his death, there's the issue of his phone. Kenny sets the phone down on his desk yet Eve finds it on a large table by the window a good ten to twelve feet away from Kenny's desk.
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10 minutes ago, Blergh said:
Tax loss write-offs, perhaps?
If the argument is that network heads screw over/'intentionally tank' some shows by scheduling them wrong and such then the assumption is those shows would have done well had they been scheduled properly. If they would have done well had they been scheduled properly then they would have made money for the network. How is a tax loss write-off preferable then? (Not to mention having to constantly develop new projects and gaining a reputation for intentionally killing shows?)
Sometimes a show just doesn't appeal to people and it isn't going to matter what time it's scheduled for, especially in the age of dvr and next day streaming.
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3 hours ago, BlackberryJam said:
I know Firefly was at a minimum not supported and possibly purposefully tanked.
Why would a network come up out of pocket, minimum hundreds of thousands of dollars but just as often millions of dollars per episode, to produce a show and then intentionally tank it? The board is fine with this because...? It's a business, the purpose is to make money. Who are these network heads supposedly blowing literally tens of millions a year on shows they're sabotaging and why do they still have jobs?
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Very low-rated shows that get cancelled aren't being screwed over by their networks. And defending such a show as a cult favorite does it no favors and indicates nothing other than the fanbase is probably annoying. I say this as someone who has liked plenty of small shows that were cancelled after a season or two.
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Telling, tho, that she only reneged on the deal and killed the masters because the main one kept insulting her. Prior to that she had been genuine in her dealings with him.
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On 5/19/2020 at 8:22 AM, Avabelle said:
So I've only watched Game of Thrones in the last six weeks. I never watched it while it aired, was never part of the hype. Knew who the actors were but didn't follow any of them. I don't follow boards discussion on it so have no idea if this is unpopular or not, I just think it could be unpopular from the feedback I get from friends and family when discussing. I just finished season 7 last night (I know how it ends just from not being invincible from spoilers and the absolute fury that followed on from the final episode.
My UO is - I can't stand Daenerys. I respect what she's done given where she was at the start of the series but overall I don't find her to be much different to Cersei. Not as hardened and a bit sweeter but her mission statement is more or less the same. She'll make big speeches about how she's more noble than any previous rulers and has the peoples best interest at heart... just don't question or disagree with her as you'll be burnt by her dragons. Cersei is the worst but at least she owns it. She doesn't pretend to be anything else. Daenerys genuinely thinks she's a cut above everyone else and has no self awareness to how dictorial she comes across. She's surrounded by yes men who are all madly in love with her.
Also, I roll my eyes everytime the music swells and she rides in on those fucking dragons. It was great the first time but by the end of season seven she's doing it every episode and the music/scene is still playing as though it's the first time.
Also, it should be a drinking game for how whenever she or someone else says her full, five minute name either by introduction or just midway through one of her self indulgent speeches about how brilliant or different a leader she is. I saw it with Snow, why people would follow him or look up to him as a leader. I never did with her.
I know how it ends with her so I can't say I'm disappointed. I'd have been more frustrated had she gotten the throne.
A brilliant character by the way in terms of story, just couldn't stand her.
She had all the trappings of an underdog-to-hero type and people just refused to look deeper or, y'know listen to the words coming out of her mouth. By the end of the first season she was demanding gratitude from a woman who had been raped four or five times after Dany had pushed Drogo to invade their village. Dany barely cared about the human cost of Targaryen restoration and at the end of the day was never going to let it stand in her way. She was too far gone by the time she bought the Unsullied, ten thousand enslaved men, and stood with a whip in her hand ordering them to kill the masters without an ounce of self awareness.
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I had to laugh when Villanelle just stepped over Konstantin as he was turning ashy. He left his daughter in an asylum/jail, Villanelle left him on the train platform, both promising to come back. What a hilariously twisted little family.
Honestly, Dasha had it coming. She just kept pressing on Villanelle, almost right from the beginning. What did she expect? She should have known Villanelle might try to kill her, especially after Villanelle admitted she wanted out.
Reality has been catching up to everyone this season, they're paying the price of the lives they lead. I wonder what that will mean for Eve in the finale.
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I wonder if they finished filming before all this started and, if so, when season two will air.
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Was I the only one that thought there was something going on with Carolyn and the knife? Like Geraldine was eyeing it and Carolyn was all oooof oooooh about her wound but the second she got Geraldine over there to tend to her hand and drop her guard she flipped the conversation around and nailed her daughter. And then just walked away fine all, "let me know when dinner's ready". I'm not sure but part of me thinks that not only is there a lot more to Geraldine but that Carolyn suspects/knows that it's bad. Maybe Geraldine killed Kenny or is working with The Twelve.
Oh, Konstantin. You thought you could be a killer who handles killers and still have a normal family life and raise a normal daughter. I didn't think it was out of character for Irina to kill her stepfather simply because they haven't shown before if she's moral or not. She's clearly been more than aware of what her father and Villanelle are and yet mostly just seems annoyed that her role as Konstantin's daughter was challenged.
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Villanelle's mother didn't strike me as a narcissist at all. Rather there seemed to be a void there. She has a body and she can cry and dance but inside there's just....nothing.
She had this stare around Villanelle, like she was looking directly at who Villanelle really is rather than who she pretends to be. And she found it exhausting. Raising a daughter just like herself must have been so tiring; she couldn't bare to have another one around the house so she got rid of her.
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What didn't work for me: the 'kooky' writing for the family. Everyone had to be weird for some reason?
What did work for me: not creating a real origin for Villanelle's psychopathy. Her mother was off, you could see it almost right from the start, and she was clearly a bully to her children. But none of her other kids were like Villanelle and plenty of other people endure far, far worse and aren't killers. So maybe Villanelle was made that way by her mother, or maybe she was born like her mother and it's genetic, or maybe she already had something in her and her mother's meanness just sharpened it, or maybe Villanelle was just always spiralling and it would have happened no matter what.
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This episode, and the previous one, have felt like the old show. Finally.
I did not care about Niko at all so his death meant nothing to me and I saw it coming a mile off with all the cheery scenes. Dasha clearly does not understand Eve, tho, if she thinks this will scare Eve off Villanelle.
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Edith was always rather The Princess and the Pea about everything so I'm not surprised she was still a whiner in the movie.
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I found it difficult to clearly hear the dialogue during Dasha and Villanelle's scenes.
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I was quite bored through most of it, to be honest. The writing is the issue because the cast is trying their hardest with what they're given. The only time it found a rythym was when Villanelle and her protege were on assignment. A lot of the dialogue had a feeling of having been written by someone trying very hard to write a witty Killing Eve line; such as Carolyn's bit to her daughter about, "why don't you go do that thing were you close your eyes and breathe?" This season feels more like imitation to me, so far. Last season has been rightly criticized but overall I enjoyed it more (I'm aware I'm saying this after only two episodes of the new season but last season I didn't play on my phone during any episodes and I kept picking up mine during this one, so).
Carolyn's daughter describing herself as an empath was hilarious tho and exactly the kind of daughter Carolyn's parenting would produce.
Loved Villanelle's apartment.
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15 minutes ago, Ramona said:
I'm upset about Kenny. I need to re-watch, but I'm hoping it wasn't Villanelle who killed Kenny, is it?
My instinct is to say it was Dasha. When Kenny is at his desk, after he's asked once "who's there?", he hears a door open and shut then heels clicking on the floor. Villanelle heard the same at her wedding before seeing Dasha.
However, Villanelle made a point of mimicking Dasha's kill so maybe she was yet again recycling her mentor's method? I still kind of feel like it was Dasha.
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I'm going to bypass the obvious South Park joke because I'm genuinely annoyed they killed Kenny. His scene with Eve was the best of the premiere and he was the nicest person on the show. Dammit.
All in all, Kenny's death aside, I didn't care for the premiere. I wasn't excited when I heard about the new showrunner because I've seen her work before on Fear the Walking Dead. She has a knack for taking characters and turning them into caricatures and I feel like that's what she did here. Especially with Villanelle. Virtually every scene with her was a farce, the opening in particular. Villanelle is more....flat, more one dimensional than she used to be.
The actress playing Dasha is talented and a great addition I just wish Dasha wasn't Villanelle in 25 years. It's amazing the Russians ever get anything done with all the childish psycopaths they hire.
In previous seasons it seemed like Villanelle was the driving force of the show because of how loud and funny and crazy and charismatic Villanelle is and how great Comer is but I vastly preferred Eve's scenes. They just felt more grounded, the only scenes (along with Kenny's) that felt like they were a part of the show.
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God, Max. I couldn't stand him. Right from the beginning. I think poorly of teachers that become involved with a student's parent, it's just so inappropriate. I completely agreed with Emily when she told Lorelai it was a bad idea, though of course that just convinced Lorelai that they were some kind of dramatic, star-crossed lovers situation which led to overwrought declarations about how much she wanted to be with him. And then when they finally were actually together they lasted what? Six months? I swear Lorelai was into that relationship largely for the wrong reasons (I do think she had some feelings for him I just don't think she ever really loved him). As much as I agreed with Emily perhaps she should have said, "Oh, Lorelai, I think that's just wonderful! When can we meet him?" Decent chance Lorelai would have run screaming.
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I don't think they changed Dean at all. He was only a "Bad Boy" in Rory's world and season one Rory was about as buttoned-down as it got. They were pretty consistent with his character. Dean was never portrayed as a classic Bad Boy, like Jess was. A lot of that hype was just Lorelai's fears which were pretty quickly disproven; he was always respectful of Lorelai and other adults, if he acted smart and someone got serious with him he was quick to change his behavior, he was quick to get a job and always attended school, wasn't into fighting with other guys, was loyal to Rory, etc. He was shown to adapt over time to the small town life and as early as the fifth or sixth episode of season one it was made clear he had "traditional" values. As far as his intelligence is concerned he was never shown to be gifted or even especially well-read. (Hunter Thompson isn't advanced and lots of people read him in high school.) ASP struggles with writing normal people because she wants almost every character in her show to be quick-witted and capable of making obscure references no matter their personality, age, education level, etc. So while Dean has the typical ASP sense of humor he isn't the sort of character for whom intellect is considered, rightly or not, a defining trait. And like Rory he didn't get better with age.
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I always liked the Tok'Ra- the idea of two beings coexisting like that, sharing every memory and feeling, is fascinating and I don't think the show ever really did any of that justice. (More should have come of Sam being left with the knowledge, memories, and feelings of Jolinar. We learn in subsequent encounters with the Tok'Ra how common it is for the symbiote or host to heavily influence the other in terms of personality. Is that something Sam struggled with? Not to mention the way they just ignored her having naqadah in her blood.)
But goddamn is Delek an asshole. He's the Council member in Death Knell who tells Jacob/Selmak that the Council has been running ops behind their back. I get when he says that Jacob, rather than Selmak, seems to be the dominant personality and how that clearly chafes. The Tok'Ra are their own people with their own culture and protocols and politics, etc. Trying to have their own society while living inside of other sentient beings can't be easy. The hosts have personalities and cultures that are going to influence things which is unavoidable if the Tok'Ra are going to take hosts ethically. How do you balance the two?
All of the oldest Tok'Ra we saw in the first few seasons relinquished control to their hosts far more often than the Tok'Ra that rose up the ranks in subsequent seasons. In fact, after a certain point in the series Jacob is the only host you ever hear speak. A lot of the younger Tok'Ra who stepped into leadership roles as the older ones died or were killed seemed more...militant. Even relatively sympathetic ones like Malek, who told Jack he had no problem whatsoever with the symbiote queen and her offspring being experimented on because the Goa'uld had done far worse to humans, did not once let his host speak. (Which is notable to me also because I recall Martouf, iirc, explaining they prefer to let the hosts deal with humans because it makes humans more comfortable. By season six or so that consideration is out the window.)
Then there's Delek flat out saying that the Tau'ri haven't had their spirits broken by thousands of years of subjugation by the Goa'uld- and that while that can be an asset is makes them dangerous. So while he probably opposes the killing and enslavement of humans, he does find the effects of enslavement to have a positive benefit for the Tok'Ra in terms of producing proper (meeker) hosts. Maybe the most punchable Tok'Ra from the entire series.
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I thinks the Kensi and Deeks scenes are lacking spark. The whole show is, tbh. I liked D&K a lot in the beginning of their partnership, maybe the first three or four seasons, but I think their story, like the whole show, has run its course. Outside them having the kids they fought over so much or splitting up there's just nowhere to go. And everyone seems very...low energy in their scenes.