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HBO released a statement about a starbucks cup faster then MTV/Viacom put out a statement on animal cruelty, domestic violence, and child abuse (i see shooting the dog as combination of the three).
So I'm guessing there won't be any statement at all - or certainly not anything like what any one of us would hope for.
Whenever this does all end it will end badly. It's anyone's guess who will die next but someone else is going to die. I don't think you have a case where absolutely all warning signs are present and yet nothing happens to any other animal or human. I know there are many homes where the cruise control is set to "highly dysfunctional" and kind of stays at a certain level but I don't believe that happens when EVERY warning possible is present. Is there anything we're even missing:
1. History of violence with strangers
2. History of violence with intimate partners
3. History of violence with biologically unrelated children
4. Evidence of un-diagnosed/treated mental health disorder
5. Drug abuse
6. Isolation
7. Access to firearms
8. History of reckless behavior with firearms
9. Involvement in ongoing court cases
All of this and no one can get any of the children removed from the house. And if that doesn't say something to us about where we are in terms of protecting Children in this country.... John 11:35 - Jesus Wept
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I don’t think the man child mysoginist phenomena is particularly stronger in the south than anywhere else. I have a friend in NY with a masters and well paying job that had her fathers child up and leave to Dubai where he married then left another woman and returned to the USA and she let him move back in and supported him for AGES. When he lost his job he proposed that he not look for one and stay home to “help” the special needs child he never helped out with before so she could find an even higher paying job. My younger sisters thirty year old besty with a masters just finally got out of relationship with a dude who had drink drug and cheating issues and she’s most devestated becuase “he ended it” not her. The psychology behind both these stories could probably fill a few text books.. And I have a kick ass job myself and 99 percent of arguments with the hubby revolves around his rediculous notions of what a full time working mom should cover on the home front versus full time working dad. He has post grad degree and a good job as well. My sister and I were just conversing today about certain things that make us nutty like when the husbands try to worm out of taking out the trash or other “man’s jobs” cause we both feel like “dang it you are the man can you at least deal with the trash!!!”” Anyway this is rambling post but my point it that I don’t think it’s particularly more of an issue in the south. I’m not even sure it’s more of an issue in certain sociology economic situations or not. Between myself, sister, sisters friends etc we cover a lot in terms of socio economic diversity and yet we’re all dealing with this shit. Of corse it helps if the guy is an otherwise decent human vs a piece of shit user and abuser but the gender role stuff is a universal struggle imo.
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As juicy a read as it would be I for one hope that the kids don't start writing tell-alls. Neither Kate nor Jon is above pitting the kids against the other parent. Kate intentionally does it among the kids too - singling kids out, clear favoritism, getting kids upset with each other by collective punishments, and making it known her attention/affection was given only under very specific circumstances. Jon probably did it more unintentionally with his horrendous fame-whoring in those years post separation. I can only imagine the psychological abuse that went on.
Speaking as someone who comes from large family with only a fraction of the dysfunction - it can already be very difficult for siblings in large families to relate to each other in healthy grown-up ways when they have developed patterns of behavior/interaction with each other while vying for attention/affection from parents who knowing use their need for attention/affection to try to control them rather than offering it without strings attached. There will for sure be siblings unable to cope with the abuse who will put on rose-colored glasses about Kate and/or Jon and will remain loyal to one or the other. Others siblings may be so bitter they are unable to find any redeeming memories of either parent. Some will fall in the middle and will recognize the good and bad in both but even those kids aren't going to appreciate the dirty laundry being aired out. One of these kids starts giving interviews or signing book deals and I don't see how the sibling relationships would ever recover.
I for one though am not so sure we'll ever see the tell-alls or exclusives. A LOT of shit can go down in the lives of 8 siblings. The threat of mutually assured destruction via exposure of the intimate details of people lives (that weren't ALREADY caught on camera or sold to online rags by their own freaking parents) will probably keep the kids from giving away all the goods. I also have a smidgen of a hope that Jon's past the highest point of his famewhorishness and might actually want to see the siblings get along together as adults and so he may advise them against spilling the beans.
Jon and Kate will reap what they've sown when it comes to their own relationship with each child ad they get older. But the fucking damage they've done BETWEEN the children that will affect their relationships with each other for the rest of their lives makes me want to vomit.
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2 minutes ago, ElderPrice said:
If Kaiser got bruised at daycare there would be an incident report. All daycare teachers fill out an incident report if a kid gets hurt, a copy is given to the parent and a copy is filed at the school. Then she says Nathan has done worse? But also Kaiser is active and gets a lot of bruises playing on the vast laaaaaaand? Pick a story!
I can totally see her pulling out the most recent incident report and trying to use it to cover up abuse at home.
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Can someone sum up context of jace’s pieces of shit statement? I’m not able to watch.
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Uggg if CPS couldn’t intervene for lack of evidence then I would think poor kai also will likely be returned whenever a hearing takes place and Dorris could be at risk of being declared in violation of custody agreement in court. Poor child.
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A friend of mine recently started working for CPS. Even though I always kind of knew it - it’s still shocking to hear how high (or would that be low) the bar is set for th before action is taken let alone removal. Apparently a shit ton of time and resources is devoted to family members calling on each other in tit for tat nonsense. Also if Parents refuse to let you in you can go back but with Sherrif. If parents still don’t answer I’m not sure how many times they’ll keep going to see inside of house (i’ll Ask when I back from vacation) also cases can be closed out just be seeing kid get off school bus and looking clean and dressed. I don’t think contact is actually required (again I’ll ask when I back). If those kids’ living situations change it will be because babs and Dorris and or Nathan go to court to enforce or modify the terms of their agreements long before CPS does anything.
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10 minutes ago, lovesnark said:
Yes!!! That's exactly what I was thinking. Her all geared up in the pool and Lurch dropping random shit into the water for her to "discover". ?
I believe Jenelle did a vacation scuba course in St Thomas. As far as we know, she's never done any diving stateside. She was tweeting about being excited for her pool to be ready #scuba. The image of her diving in the pool cracks me up!
If Janelle received enriched air certification than as a pre-requisite she’d have to have her open water certifications which is different to the basic scuba diver course that is typical of quick training on vacay which allows you to be a supervised diver. Open water certification allows you to be unsupervised diver.
All I’m saying is go ahead and knock Janelle for her treading water lunacy, knock her for her horrid life choices etc etc but there’s no reason to diminish or downplay what it means to have accomplished open water scuba certification or the enriched air certification to knock her. Does having it make anyone super special? Is it Einstein level math or seal team six level training? No - but it does take enough brain power and commitment to be an accomplishment.
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8 hours ago, CaliforniaLove said:
Jenelle got her license to be a rescue diver?
No where in my post did I say that so not sure why you are asking.
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Former certified rescue scuba diver here. My two cents is that anyone’s who gets their scuba diver certification and does not feel it’s an accomplishment is probably someone who didn’t pay very close attention or take the safety and classroom portions of the course too seriously and is frankly not someone I’d want to be diving with. There are briefer courses that people take on vacation to go out for a short dive but if Janelle completed her full certification than yes it’s an accomplishment. Janelle can be a wretched human and still have things to be proud of that us “normals” would be proud of too. Taking her scuba course seriously and being proud of that is a good example. Marrying David and being proud of THAT? Not so much........
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Kaiser definitely looked sick in that pic I could see it in face especially eyes even before zooming in a bit and seeing the redness above his lips. I’m certainly not opposed to a sick kid still getting fresh air but that kid needed some Vaseline and a proper hat and gloves at a minimum.
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On 12/19/2017 at 9:06 AM, Uncle JUICE said:
Maybe the worst passage in the article:
I don't even have to break it down. But "I support their decision because I don't have a choice" is not supporting their decision, asshole.
For me it’s “I gave you the right” yes fucknut in a sense you gave them the right. But you literally gave them your rights as in YOU NO LONGER HAVE ANY FUCKING RIGHTS!!!” I don’t get how he gets to be so condescending without even understanding what he’s saying. You can’t give up your rights while simultaneously keeping your rights. Uggg
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1 minute ago, lovesnark said:
If Kaiser has health insurance, I can totally see UBT forbidding Jenelle from providing that info to Nathan. He is such an ignorant and controlling asshole. I can totally hear him saying "Ain't no reason that fucken faggot needs no insurance card. He can call ME if he wants anything"!
Agreed right up there with:
"Ain't no way this f**** kid needs a doctor" and then after being proven wrong.....
"Ain't no way I giving this kid the meds that f**** doctor gave him"
I don't get how why MTV excuses his homophobia? Or that no one in media has called them on it.
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Random thought - I don’t doubt for one second that now she’s out on the land Janelle can’t be bothered to drive her kids to the doc. She couldn’t even give jace hand delivered prescribed meds barb gave her. Seems she waited quite some time to even get Kail to doctor. Did she even get him to doc or were the meds over the counter? And I don’t think I believe Janelle saying that Nathan cussed out Lurch’s Mom. I do believe he has a hair trigger temper but he seems to want to play the freaking game when it comes to co-parenting and dealing with janelle. I don’t see him cussin her out unprovoked although I would believe it in an instant if lurches Mom touched the right nerve. He does not seem to have self control in those scenarios. Speaking of lurches Mom I put zero stock in anything she says or does givin that she hasn’t filed for custody of lurches kids herself. She seems to be supportive of his pathology. Did she not remember she forgot Kaiser’s medicine and made no attempt to deliver it? Did Janelle not txt to see how he was doing or if they had any questions about the meds? Did she not ask to make sure meds were handed off? If she did and New meds weren’t delivered why didn’t she get ass in car and deliver herself? It really infuriates the sane to see Janelle’s bullshit excuses. You have to literally suspend reality and any level of common sense to believe a word out of her mouth or believe she has any defense in these situations.
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I find Ryan saying Jen tears are a trigger manipulative as fuck and I don't believe for a second it's true. Jen probably cries the most at Ryan's lack of desire to be a father and Ryan's fighting with his dad is normally about basically wanted to do whatever he wants whenever he wants it without considering the impact on anyone. Ryan's trigger is life and the fact that he's blocked from navigating it free from any obligations to anyone but himself. He should say "I'm a selfish dick and my trigger is being asked to do anything that requires acknowledging anyone else's feelings or needs. I run to heroin to escape the slightest hint of other people's expectations of me giving a fuck about anyone but myself." It sure as fuck isn't about Jen's crying.
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1 hour ago, galaxychaser said:
Kale must be thrilled that Java is getting deployed. Javiana is a cute name lol.
oooh hold up wait a minute. I didn't know about the deployment. Could this possibly be what Kail was referring to when she said she won more time with her son? I was wondering why she made that remark it's not as if she had filed for a custody change or anything. sounds like she was pissed at Brianna's bitchery and snapped back by bragging about javi's deployment giving her more time with Lincoln. kail's got a truly nasty streak in her.
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Me thinks someone’s trying to make up for ditching yet another visitation weekend by buying an expensive gift just before a whole holiday centered around gifts. Just another example of Janelle’s fun aunt status in Jace’s life.
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3 hours ago, ElderPrice said:
She looks like she's pooping. Who tells her to stand (or squat) in these awkward unnatural poses? Just dreadful.
That’s definitely my poop in the woods pose. Additionally her face makes me believe she needs to add more fiber to her diet.
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1 hour ago, Christina said:
After Karl tweeted that Lincoln had asked to go by his middle name, someone here posted something about a children's show where a main character's name was Marshall. I seriously can't remember if she confirmed that is why he changed his name or it was just speculation from forum members who have kids the same age and were familiar.
I hope that's where it came from and he did want to be called Marshall, but Karl lies so much and screws with people as a power trip that it's just as likely she pointed out the character's name and convinced him it was his idea.
Ahhh yes perhaps he’s a huge o patrol fan!! Marshall is one of the main characters. He’s a dog though lol.could have been a different show but that’s the Marshall I know.
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10 minutes ago, TeenMomAngerMgmt said:
I mean, I know when I was 3 or 4 I was adamant about going by my middle name. I still am. I certainly hope Kail isn’t making some kinda of dumb powerplay here, but it also wouldn’t surprise me.
Just curious do you remember or know if you were you often referred to by full first and middle name before deciding? I mean you were 3 or 4 so maybe you don’t remember. My little one is 3.5 and has two first names as full first name and I could understand if she suddenly wanted to be called by second name cause she hears both names so often. But she does have an actual middle name but rarely hears it so I’d be super surprised if she all of a sudden was askin to be called by. Lincoln Marshall isn’t really a name that flows so I’m just very suspicious that he heard it enough to decide to be just Marshall. Also very suspicious because I feel that if it really genuinely originated with him javi would probably be ok. But kails the only one blasting it all over social media. I don’t Think vee ir jo have referred to him as that either and I’d think they would again if he was the one who wanted it. It just seems like Kail is only one trying to make “fetch happen”
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17 minutes ago, GreatKazu said:
Even his cake reads "Marshall."
Good catch as always! So deep is kails need to control and dominate javi that she’s actively trying to get this kid to change his name. Holy fuck. I will never not think this is just another fuck you to javi. I’m sure lots of celebrity kids have nicknames or may go by middle names but their parents aren’t all blasting these names over social media. Kails doing that purely to be a dick to javi. Frankly unless this kid was constantly being referred to as Lincoln Marshall why would this 4 Year Old even think to start to get the idea that he only wants to be called marshal now? (which I don’t believe he did. I totally think this is something Kail instigated and promoted on her own.) Her f you to jo was to try to wipe Isaacs mind of him and replace with javi. She has no replacement Daddy for Lincoln so instead she’s trying to play up this Marshall shit As a way to aliante javi and make it seem like she’s the parent that really “knows” her kids. She’s fucking sick in the head. And is AT least on or with janellle for mind fucking with her kids to get back at others. Wretched!!!
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Briana is such trash but so is Kail. Why the fuck is she so desperate to antagonize and try to dominate javi? Those texts are so pathetic. You ditched him you fucked him out of the house took his kids his house his life you cheated on him and have already had another mans baby. Why the hell do you need to be texting him about his new girlfriend????
Also a little dissaponted in vee’s social media reactions it reads a bit vulgar and violent to me for such a public post but at same time I think Vee had to hold her tongue so much with Kail stuff maybe she felt the need to smack Brianna down hard at the first sign of her trying to drag Jo’s name into her drama.
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On 11/11/2017 at 3:26 AM, SheTalksShit said:
^^^Ooh I could see Jace taking UBT on for sure when he's older IF things were to get violent between David and Jenelle.
I could more see it happening, tho, if Jenelle had won custody of Jace (which she didn't, thank god) bc then Jace would be stuck living with them. B/c Babs won, the only way Jace could end up living w/Jenelle and David is if he decides he wants to, at some point, when he's older, like in his teens or whatever. But if he doesn't, I think that, in a few years, Jace probably won't see nearly as much of David and Jenelle as he does now, b/c he'll be wanting to spend his weekends with his friends, instead of going to see them.
With regards to Babs saying Jace is afraid of David/doesn't like him (and I fully believe he said that), I'm not sure what it is that David does b/c Babs has never said. Babs did say, "He tells me what you do," to David, but didn't specify. I hope Dr. Drew asks Babs that at the reunion.
B/c it could go 2 ways: either David does things to Jace that are violent or extremely harsh in some way OR Jace simply does not like male authority figures b/c he is not used to them. That happens quite often.
My cousin, he's in his early 20's now, but he was raised only by his mother up until he was about 5 or 6, until my uncle won full custody. My uncle is no saint, but he was in no way abusive or negligent towards my cousin, but he and my cousin CLASHED like crazy and my cousin has, overall, never really had much use for male authority. Like whenever he'd come on vacation with our family, I noticed he always strongly preferred to be around me, my sister and my mom, he tolerated my Dad but he overall does not like being told what to do by males. And a LOT of men who are raised by single mothers are like that, they have trouble with male authority b/c they are not used to it and men tend to have a different approach, in terms of discipline, it's just how it is. not always, of course, but many times, women are not as good at disciplining, we're just not. And I think that's why so many males who are raised by single mothers have trouble later on in life, b/c they grown up being able to get away with breaking the rules and pushing boundaries...and when they get older that translates to breaking LAWS, getting kicked out of school, getting girls pregnant as a teen and then not sticking around b/c they've never had to be fully accountable for what they do and never had a father figure, so they don't know WHAT to do, theyve never seen anyone play that role in their house before. And we're seeing it already w/Jace - he bit Babs, punched her, he was having trouble in school and fighting with kids, etc.
This, of course, is not Babs fault, and I do think she's the better fit for Jace than David/Jenelle. I just sometimes get the feeling that Jace RESENTS the men in Jenelle's life, dislikes them and them telling him what to do, partially bc he may feel she picks them over him and they take up his time with her/he can't spend time alone with her and partially bc he is simply not used to being told what to do my a man.
And god forgive me for saying this, but I see violence, repeated law breaking and jail in Jace's future. I do.
I think this is an uncomfortable to read post but I think you are right as well. I think this might play a part in what’s going on with jace but given what we know of David’s prior violence towards others and the way he speaks to and bout kaiser and jace on camera that jace’s unhappiness/scared goes beyond this. Although frankly Janelle is just so horrible he could also be putting additional emphasis on David cause he doesn’t outright want to say it’s Janelle he doesn’t want to see.
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12 minutes ago, druzy said:Your children are surrounded by their loving families in Delaware. Is that nothing to you?
Kail is so damn transparent she's clearly setting up a move out of DE and not one fuck will be given about the havoc this will cause amongst siblings and extended family. She's a horrid cow.
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Ok so if we assume that what Janelle said about David's behavior the night of that 911 call was absolutely true, then she basically used Ensley as bait the same way David did with the dog.
Best case scenario she knew David would confine his rage to other parts of the house and she was just calling 911 for sympathy/attention. As a great poster has pointed out a few times she's not even capable of faking normal behavior so she didn't understand how saying you are hiding from a raging psychopath but left your kid behind made HER look worse then David in that moment.
Worst case scenario she was hoping David would harm Ensley because she hates being a mom so badly or just because in that moment she thought she could use it against David. Because again she would think that the authorities would somehow overlook the fact that SHE left the child in danger. She thinks well if i'm not the one to actual hurt her I'd get custody by default. She really doesn't get that it's not just about who's the least worst person. David is just an incapable or recognizing normal behavior. David thinking that no one would notice what that video really showed was best example. He would have been content with a permanently scarred child as long as he had what he thought was the perfect video taped excuse to murder the dog.
Legal eagles out there - in what way would a 911 call like that not result in cops being dispatched and a report taken since she mentions an unattended child and violence? I'm wondering where the responding officers report is.