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Did they mention the new girls name even once in the episode?
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As soon as I saw Zola, I thought shed be Marcels new love interest. And then he walked in.
I will never feel bad for Maggie.
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Nothing makes sense other than Katerina being Reddington. That said, I hated the ending & hate that they just didn't confirm it.
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Does anyone know how many episodes this season is supposed to have? I could have sworn I read 13, but it looks like it's going beyond that.
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I'll miss Chrissy. I loved her. And I think she was important.
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Yeah, I'm sorry. But I hate this. I loved most of the shows supporting cast. I thought they all made the show wonderful just ad much as the Kents.
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I don't know if this is the right place to post this, but Dylan Walshs wife posted on instagram that he won't be returning for season 4 because he was offered 3 out of ten episodes & he turned them down. She said he's too expensive.
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15 hours ago, Sweet-n-Snarky said:
The good:
-- The action was so good! I was absolutely enamored with all of these random cops that were around to breach all of Beck's properties.
-- Hailey with that elbow to that dude's face
-- That opening with Ruzek set the tone..oof I felt for the man. He really had me. Especially those scenes with Makayla.
-- Paddy acted his ass off yet again and I love that man. They really underused him this season.
-- This was really Atwater's episode. The way he took charge at the scene. His reaction when he found out about the elementary school, that look he had with that Black officer, his annoyance over the deal, and that killshot!! He didn't hesitate!
-- Trudy with Kim..I just loved that scene. I love their relationship.
-- Kim, steady, all the signs of her therapy working, how she was able to healthily compartmentalize, how she helped Adam. How she didn't panic.
-- Kim looked so cute in that green hoodie.
What I struggled with:
-- I know Torres can only be in a certain amount of episodes but after that underwhelming last episode, he shouldn't have been gone for the finale!
-- It actually really bothered me the lengths they kept going to make Sam and Callum victims. Sam did not have this passive role in what her father was doing. Her racist thoughts didn't just become un hardwired when Callum was born. Throwing out things wasn't enough. And when given chances she still protected her father or didn't do the right thing. I was annoyed that they oversold the concept of white duoremacostss being victims of their white supremacy.
-- I just can't NOT think about how Sam and Callumg got more chances and shown more grace than hundreds kf people of color in the criminal justice system, the foster system, all of it.
-- Sam should NOT have been offered full immunity. And didn't even ask for it... it ess the offer Ruzek wanted for her as their best shot because he sympathized with her so much.
-- Ruzek still wanted to protect Callum and Sam wanted to save him, but the kid was already down the dark path. It felt dangerous and even problematic to keep pushing this point that this kid could be saved because "no one is born hating" with little regard or consideration for his current actions and the dangers he posed now. In this same system a young kid like Atwater or Torres will get written off as a product of their environment and STILL spend time trying to disprove that to other people as whole adults.
-- The idea that Callum still stood a chance, but now that Kevin killed his grandpa, the racism got activated. It puts too much emphasis on the act, KEVIN'S act. Like, what?
-- that cliffhanger and them cutting out that Burzek bedside scene for Voight and Chapman having a drink. It was just so weird. I would think with the writer striker looming at this point of filming, they would have opted for the final scene with burgess and Ruzek so it didn't feel so open ended.
Why can Torres only be in limited episodes?
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What the heck was that?
Awful. Just awful.
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Episode 7 of the final season & Wallace is doing filler episodes. Only 6 episodes left and the final season still has no direction or set up for the big bad or how the shows supposed to end. Wallace is really the worst thing that ever happened to this show.
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I don't understand why Jenna Dewan is even on this show & a regular. She usually gets 2 scenes, one at the beginning & one at the end. Just to show she & Nolan are still together.
Nathan Fillion doesn't even feel like the lead anymore.
I hope since they wrapped up Celinas story that she exits after this season.
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12 hours ago, SaraLanceArrow said:
I think you fail to see that the - 'we all thought there will be season 8' - is just an act they all adopted, because they can't admit they knew the chance for s8 was small, but still did the cliff hanger. Besides no one loses if they have free posters in LA and New York, or trending Legends. I am also sure the actor for Booster Gold was not really signed a deal. And closing studios do no happen from suddenly.
Phil Klemmer also said that he wasn't sure Caity would love the pregnancy plot line, so we can also see that she agreed to it, because they knew she would never see the light of day. Caity also had said on ' inside of you' podcast, that she was tired of playing Sara Lance, and that it was difficult on Legends as she had a lot of screen time but mostly as supporting character to other character's stories.
Also realistically pregnancy story line would have benched her even more, or put her on the background even more. EBR left the show after Felicity became a mother. And I am sure all the avalance fans have tones of ideas of domestic plot lines of how avalance take care of the baby, but this is not what the show is about, and this still would have meant that they will be there for two minites screen time just to satisfy the portion of fandom who cares solely for two women changing diapers. Which again, I am sure Caity Lotz would not sign up for.
And yes I do understand why people love Avalance - they are two gorgeous women who kiss and hold hands. For some people this is enough. And the fact they are not bothered by the plot lines I mentioned speaks a lot, speaks they do not really care for representation, or empowerment. They care for the shippers feelings they have when they watch them. They also do not care for the characters. And intimacy is important, and I also love it. But I do watch for more. I want more from female characters in a superhero show. If this was family drama, then yes, let them change diapers. But this is a superhero show and I am here for that content.
So I want Sara to have the content they gave Constantine for example - I want her to be more than just love interest. How was it possible for Constantine to be able to have the love plot line, the drug plot line, the hell plot line, the personal villains, the characters from his show, saving Astra, seeing his parents and ancestors, keeping his darkness and autonomy. But Sara was not possible to talk about her father, her past, explore whether she was in hell when she was dead, save the girl whose father she killed, have personal villain, kill darhk in the end, show emotions over her blindness and so on.
And now to answer your Arrow comment - come on - you barely care whether they killed and cloned Sara, because you see the writers didn't addressed it, and the characters didn't care, but you 'care' how Arrow used Sara for Laurel's Black Canary arc? This is just funny. I mean all Avalance fans that hate on Sara's plot on Arrow are such hypocrites. Tell me how exactly Sara was not a tool for Ava all these last seasons? Didn't she became from someone who sacrifices her sister for the timeline to someone with a motto - I screw the timeline for the better - just to give Ava the personality of a time cop? Didn't she became blind just so Ava can become co -captain? Didn't she not talked about her dead father, just so she can be happy with Ava. All this characterization and plot lines were given to her so they can build up Ava. SO how is that different to what Arrow did. Sara even was killed and cloned in the end so she can be a clone like Ava. The difference with Arrow is that the show at least gave her one season where she had actual development and plot lines. On Arrow she had more development and more characterization than 7 seasons of Legends. Remove Arrow from her story and you do not have Sara Lance, but a stereotype of a bad ass blond assassin who kicks ass and kisses girls. What made Sara unique is her story from Arrow, and a little bit from Legends the first two seasons. So I suppose Legends could have easily just cast another blond actress for their show and made her bad ass assassin and it would have been the same.
I'm not failing to see anything. No one knew or had any idea that Legends would be canceled when season 7 was filming. All the facts corroborate that. No info doesn't.
DC told Legends to replace Nate with Nick Zano leaving with another DC character. Even DC wanted & believed the show would continue.
The Sara/Ava pg story was written. Caity didn't have to agree to anything. She wasnt lied to or promised the show was ending so shed not have to do it. What? LOL.It was happening & the show had every intention on following it through. Caity was fine with the story. No one had to convince her to do anything. She joked she didn't want to be fat. No big deal.
And Im just as sure Caity would have played whatever Avalance story was written. Domestic Avlance or not.She was not going to leave the show & was going to be in season 8. Caity would never have thrown her foot down & refused to do an Avalance scene or plot. There is zero evidence that she'd ever do that.
Not everyone shares the anger & hatred for Legends. Not all Sara fans agree that Legends ruined her, did her dirty, etc. If you loved Sara from season 2 of Arrow I can understand. But there's way more love for Sara from Legends. Legends did way better with Sara than Arrow ever did. Sara would have never become the lead character on Arrow or probably even a series regular that's seen week to week.
Not everyone thinks Sara's one season on Arrow was gold. Many love the Sara of Legends. Legends did a lot of great things with Sara through the years.
I'm not going to go through every plot line Sara has had on Legends & defend them. I and many others had no problem with them. I didn't hate or feel like Sara was being disrespected or ruined. I don't agree with the feelings of the Arrow/Sara fans on Sara. Sara grew beyond Arrow. People change. Sara didn't have to always be the person she was on another show. Sara spent three seasons of Legends dealing with self loathing. Legends decided to move her beyond that. Characters are allowed to grow.
Legends only started getting accolades & put on best show lists from season 3 on. The show received way more love than hate for the later years. And so did Sara & Avalance.
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8 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:
Perhaps the largest newborn I’ve seen on a tv series.
The soap opera General Hospital has done this twice over the past few weeks: huge babies born that are supposed to be newborns.
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16 hours ago, SaraLanceArrow said:
Caity Lotz sold her apartment months before the cancellation was announced and the last episode was aired. They all knew there won't be any more seasons.
All of them supported the campaign because they are nice people who support their fans, and also it is free promotion of the show which is still on streaming, or was at the time.
Keto leaving the show and yet deciding to write an episode where they put Legends in jail is a dck move. It is like - I do not care what happens I am moving on any way. And then she claims she cares for Sara as a character even from Arrow is a lie, as she never showed she actually knows Sara's personality at all. Plot lines like:
- wanting to go on a boat
- not knowing how to read a road map
- ending pregnant in jail
- erasing her scars, and not even showing them in a single scenes during the whole show
- cutting the scenes where she talks about her father
- not giving her any proper arc after being killed and cloned, or proper arc for her blindness, or proper arc for forgiving herslef
- making her into a puppet for Darhk's enjoyment
- using her regeneration powers for an excuse to kill her more
- making suddenly someone who choses Robo Nate to kill her rather than actually fight him
- playing parody characters more than being Sara Lance
and many more - just proves Keto( or Phil) does not care for Sara as a character. So people saying Flash would ruin her are ridiculous, when Legends ruined her more.
And it is not even about Ava or Avalance. It is about Sara, and how she is treated and how she is written in her own screen time and development. Wanting more background and quality stories for Sara has nothing to do with Avalance. They could co-exist.
There are many fans of Avalance simply because they are lgbtq couple, and I completely understand that. They come to the show solely for the couple, but then the writers are the ones who decide the stories and they could have given both Sara and Ava quality stories instead of these heterosexual stereotypes of how lesbians are always horny, hating bisexuals, wanting domestic life, alien babies , and surprise saliva impregnation. Oh and lets not forget both becoming clones and have one father creator - the man who killed Sara.
And yes Caity said Sara died for real. Whether she liked that plot line or not is something we can only speculate as no one asked her in any interview about it. There was no article about this plot line and even the writers never explained it. And yes Caity loves Avalance, because she is a huge LGBTQ supporter and she loves the representation, but she also had said that she wanted more deeper content for Sara, and this does not make it less representation, because writing quality storylines for lgbtq character is better representation than kissing and holding hands. She always speak more fondly for Arrow than anything she was given as acting on Legends, which for her is just fun but when she talks about stretching her acting she talks about Arrow.
They did not know there wouldn't be more seasons. They all expected they were coming back for season 8. Olivia Swann flat out said so. Caity, Adam, Jes, they all believed they were coming back. They all knew their were plans for season 8. They had ideas for what was coming in season 8 because they were told what the plans for their characters were. Klemmer said in an interview he told Caity about Sara being pregnant for season 8. Plans for Zaris season 8 story were talked about. Donald Faison was brought on the show to be a regular in season 8. Caity selling her apartment means nothing really. Especially since her then fiance also lived in Canada. Caity tweeted & talked about that she was definitely returning for season 8. She even said how the show was planning on casting classmates for the Legends in time jail.
Phil Klemmer has been with the show from day 1. Keto was leaving but he wasn't & he had a lot of plans for season 8 & talked about them in multiple interviews after the s7 finale aired.
The cast supports the campaign because they love the show & wanted to do season 8.
I understand & get that the plot lines you've laid out may have upset you, but many Sara, Avalance, & Legends fans were not upset by them or see them as disrespecting Sara. Not all Sara fans see Arrow as the best of the best of Sara Lance. That show never cared about her. Sara was just a plot point for Laurels journey in becoming Black Canary. That's why they killed Sara off in season 3 episode 1. Arrow did Sara even worse when they brought her back at the end of the season as a drug induced vision just to prop Laurel even more. Sara would likely still be dead if not for Legends & Marc G wanting to have her on Legends. Arrow may have created Sara, but Legends Of Tomorrow is the reason she was brought back to the Arrowverse after Arrow literally disposed of her like she was just trash.
I've seen a lot of Avalance fans who love them because they are a good couple with good chemistry & writing. Not just because they are LGBT.
Not sure why Caity saying Sara supposedly died for real matters. Especially since the show & characters on the show, including Sara herself, did not treat the Sara that came back from Bishops planet any different. And when the episode was filming that revealed the Sara clone twist, Caity tweeted her excitement over the episodes ending.
Anytime Caitys been tweeted at about Arrow Sara being better than Legends Sara she has defended Legends & said how mush she loves the show & what they've done with her. So I don't think she prefers Arrow over Legends.
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5 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:
Why did Hannah chase after the irritated father? He was upset after the baby was delivered. He was perfectly within his right to walk or run out of the building. He wasn’t her patient even. Why did chase after him? Calling security to stop him? Why? He wasn’t doing anything illegal until she cornered him and he got defensive. I found that whole thing bizarre. She really irritates me most of the time.
Im sort of surprised at the romantic side they are showing of Dr. Charles. I can’t locate the actress’s name that plays Tatiana. Anyone know?
Wasn't the father waving around the pair of scissors Hannah gave him to cut the cord? I think that's why.
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I really hate how much of a joke this show has become. I can't stand the Tim/Lucy double mess.
And then there's the documentary crap. I hate those episodes & the ones where the whole show is body cam footage.
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2 hours ago, Screamnastics said:
Of course cast and crew are going to talk about the campaign, and plenty such campaigns have gotten billboards. It's what reach the campaign has outside of that that determines whether it's a "huge deal," and that simply hasn't occurred. It's not been talked about all over social media. This is an extreme exaggeration.
As is the notion it still had "millions" of fans, plural. It had millions of fans at one point but a huge portion of them dropped the show mid-series. That's not something to dismiss, either.
Hell, just look at the trajectory of activity on this forum. And it was like that most places where you can't just follow individual people or have suggested content or trends tailored to a person's activity.
Everything being auctioned off can't possibly meaning "nothing." It means there is zero going on behind the scenes to keep the show going or wrap it up. Cast members working elsewhere obviously means less about backstage goings-on because we knew their contracts would be up, but it does mean some actors' schedules might make things difficult to do anything any time soon.
The point is, as of now, the show is done and WBD have no desire to do anything with it, and to pretend appearances on the remaining shows would gum up the works of a campaign that would somehow otherwise be successful is just plum in denial of reality.
The show has been on the bubble and barely scraping by since at least S4 if not earlier and they knew, network sale or not, it could be axed. And if Keto is now saying they had no inkling, that contradicts what she and others said earlier. And the network doesn't tell actors anything, and the EPs certainly don't keep their actors in the loop at all times, but longtime cast members have said they've been surprised by past renewals, so it's nonsensical to think everyone was expecting it to be a lock for a S8. Lots of people think they're going to have a job and then don't. If anyone thought it was guaranteed, they don't pay enough attention or were fed a load of bull.
It wasn't just the Nexstar deal that made cancellation more of a possibility, but also the potential Discovery/WB merger which was known of well before that.
No, not every fan hears what they want to hear at cons, but I've experienced more misreporting than not, so I don't take anything but direct quotes and preferably audio/video. Sorry. IDEK if you're talking about something you've seen/heard firsthand or if you're referring to second, thirdhand information. But again, Caity's thoughts don't dictate what I think, especially when she plays to whatever crowd is in front of her. I've watched her be badgered into giving people the answers they want. The original post wasn't even talking about Caity or other cast members.
It was clear from your initial response you hate The Flash. I'm not even a fan, per se. I was just offering my point of view because you were trying to deny that anyone would want a Flash appearance (despite, again, responding to someone else who also does). Not going to board-on-boards by linking it but just earlier I saw multiple people on one of the most Flash-hating LOT forums saying they'd have loved a wrap-up on the Flash. You're calling me dismissive but I'm not full-on denying certain people and content exist.
You're getting defensive about Ava and Avalance when I said nothing about the overall fan response to them, just my own individual thoughts. I disagree with you about their popularity but the topic is completely irrelevant.
It simply boils down to this: LOT is over, and regardless of whatever possibility there is for something in the future, there were plenty of people who wanted at least some characters to appear on The Flash, and Beebo-obsessed, Westallen-hating, clickbait-"journalist" Burlingame neither speaks for the whole fandom nor has ever demonstrated he cares to be tuned into the general consensus on anything Legends-related.
Dismiss the campaign. That's the overall response I see from the ones who do not care about Legends Of Tomorrow . The hard work people put in it is amazing and it is still going strong. Nothings going to change that.
I'm not exaggerating or making stuff up. The Legends fan campaign is huge.
Things being auctioned off means nothing. Props & sets can be replaced.
The cast & crew had every right not to wrap up Legends at the end of 7. Nothing pointed to the show being canceled the fall of 2021
I'm not denying anything. Most fans do not want the Legends on Flash.
I bring up Avalance because they are relevant to the schism between fans who watch this show. Especially with how much hate they get on this forum that does not match the overall response.
Anytime Caity says anything positive about Legends or Ava it's because she's lying to appease those supporters to the ones who hate the pairing. Sorry. I'll never believe that.
Mid series is when Legends grew it's fanbase & a lot of people embraced the show & started giving it praise & accolades.
You can counter, dismiss, & say I'm wrong & you're right. I know how this goes.
Burlingame feelings are just as relevant as the people who hate LOT. And there has been way more love for LOT than hate over the years.
My bottom line is this. It doesn't matter how much anyone says LOT is over. A lot of fans will never give up hope.
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11 minutes ago, ams1001 said:
It was Phở, ; Vietnamese soup with noodles and meat (pronounced like 'fuh'). He was doing a restaurant's eating challenge (and apparently at least some of their menu items have names that are puns on pho).
Ah, thanks a lot for explaining.
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Did anyone understand what FU meant in the pooping guy patients story?
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4 hours ago, Screamnastics said:
Define "huge deal." It doesn't seem to be on the same level as a lot of similar campaigns, most of which were unsuccessful themselves.
And the only acknowledgement I've seen from someone not associated with the show was James Gunn trying to very diplomatically tell people to stop spamming him because it's not going to happen.
Multiple cast members have moved on. Props have been auctioned off. It's over.
Its cancellation was a possibility the writers were warned about and yet they chose, unlike every single other show at the CW at the time, to end on a cliffhanger, because they didn't care about wrapping up anyone's story. It is entirely their own fault fans didn't get closure.
As for The Flash, I haven't watched it in years, but I could say the same about the quality of Legends of Tomorrow in its later seasons. At least Wallace respected the viewers enough to provide a season finale that would have worked as a series finale.
I personally feel Sara as a character had been shown more respect on The Flash than she had on her own show for more than half its seasons, and would have loved to see her make an appearance in The Flash's final season, and I know quite a few people who felt the same way, though I have no desire to see her shackled to her wife or being forcibly pregnant while doing so. I actually never want any of the LOT writers sans a few who left prior to S4 to ever touch my favorites again. Mileages vary.
It's ridiculous to suggest "no one" wants it when you're clearly responding to someone who would and the only reason we've had so much, "Egads, not The Flash!!!!" over the past year is because the more fanatical elements were responding to people suggesting it. I haven't seen a single convo about it where not one person wanted it to happen, unless you're talking strictly insulated echo chambers populated only by that specific segment of the viewers.
If you truly think the consistent anti-Flash sentiment has not been a response to people asking for an appearance, then the fans responsible for the former would have to have been creating their own opportunities to be outraged about the Flash based on nothing, which would track with the loudest proponents of the later seasons of LOT being more fixated on the shows and characters they hate than anything the show they supposedly love is actually doing, but it should be obvious to anyone looking that that isn't the case here.
While I love Caity, and I don't know why she's even being brought up, she says different things depending on where she is and who she's talking to, for starters.
And LBR, the Venn diagram of people who don't want Sara on The Flash and those who never wanted her on Arrow while it was still running or even to acknowledge her Arrow roots on LOT except perhaps for her parents to worship Ava is basically a circle and yet Caity adamantly wanting more Arrow crossovers, acknowledgement, etc., was always ignored by them. She was also frequently saying she wanted to appear on The Flash until LOT was cancelled.
Meanwhile, if we're going to bring up things she's made snipes about, boy would that say how little she truly liked 90% of her material since mid-S3.
She recently said, according to a fan at a con, that Sara died for real in S6. Yet no one who's insisted that wasn't the case all this time is caring what she reportedly said about it.
And my last issue with bringing her into the discussion: with all due respect, I do not trust the way fans at these cons relate what is said and how it's said based on a pattern of taking things out of context, misremembering, leaving out comments that don't suit their agenda, misinterpreting either accidentally or willfully, and not relaying or understanding tone.
Of course she's going to support LOT getting a wrap-up of its own over a guest appearance on another show if it's one or the other. Which is, rather disingenuously, how the save-the-show campaigners position things despite that not being the only possibilities. That says nothing about whether or not she would want to make a cameo in general.
A huge deal is billboards, cast members, writers, people all over social media, all acknowledging the campaign. You may want to dismiss it as not mattering, but it does to millions of fans out there.
Props being sold means nothing. Cast getting other jobs means nothing. They can & do want to come back.
Legends was never warned that they might be canceled. That is something many people have wrongly believed since they don't understand the timeline of what went down. They were not apart of the group of shows warned. The news about Nextsar came out in January of 2022. Legends finished filming in December of 2021. No shows new about the CW situation before 2022. Olivia Swann said they were not warned. So did Keto. Donald Faison was going to be a series regular on season 8 & truly believed he'd have that job.
I know everything Caity has said. IMO, it's not as negative towards Legends as presented here. And fans who report what's been said aren't all just people who hear what they want to hear. I could easily say the same when it comes to comments that are to be taken as negative towards Legends.
I have seen her say many positive things about Legends & Sara on the show. But I know how much Legends & Avalance is hated here. I see how it's always said here that Sara is only Sara if she's away from Legends Of Tomorrow & Ava. And anyone who loves Avalance is seen as just crazy shippers.
Oh, I heard what Caity said about Sara in s6. That comment wasn't negative at all.
The hate for Ava & Legends post season 3 might be how everyone here feels but elsewhere Ava & the show are very popular. Though I know anyone who loves this show & how Sara is written is dismissed.
Eric Wallace is the single worst thing to happen to The Flash. I hope he never touches Sara. He doesn't understand the characters on his own show. He'd never get how to write for Sara or the Legends.
Fans who post on social media & go to cons are treated like they don't matter. Yet going to those places are how people know what fans are responding to. A lot of people loved Legends Of Tomorrow season 4-7. I think hate for those seasons, Ava, & Avalance is small. And I think the campaigns & support Legends still gets a year later since it ended shows how much love the show still has.
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2 hours ago, Screamnastics said:
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23 hours ago, SaraLanceArrow said:
The campaign is just a free promotion of a show that already have 7 seasons, and a way of people who have money to spend. It was never going to work as the all connected to the show knew the chances for renewal are small and deals are ending. Keto, who wrote the finale was not even going to be with the show after s7. The writers knew what they were doing with this finale and they were ok with it. As for Flash, no one ever said Flash should finish Legends, seeing Legends getting out of prison is not even a story. People want to see a crossover between the two time travelling masters Barry and Captain Lance and her team, something that was way over due. And if they had announced it you would have seen how many actually wanted this.
The campaign to bring Legends Of Tomorrow back is a huge deal and almost everyone connected to the show, actors, writers, etc. have acknowledged it. Shows have been brought back before & Legends fans are not giving up & the cast have said they want to do more Legends.
Keto not returning to Legends after s7 had no bearing on season 8. Everyone connected to the show planned to do it & Phil Klemmer was still going to be the executive producer. Season 8 was going to explore Booster Gold, the new time cops that captured the Legends, Sara's pregnancy, Gwyn & Alun, & much more.
Eric Wallace has been ruining The Flash for years. The Armageddon crossover event was really bad. Everything Wallace does is. I have never seen any fans hoping for Sara & the Legends to go to that trainwreck. Caity Lotz even made a snipe at a con about not caring about seeing Sara on The Flash when asked.
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19 minutes ago, shapeshifter said:
We haven’t met Lucy’s or Tim’s parents, have we? Or are they both conveniently (for casting purposes) orphans?
Tim's abusive dad was introduced a few seasons ago. Lucy's parents were too I think in season 2.
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On 1/27/2023 at 9:03 AM, SaraLanceArrow said:
I do not agree with this. People on twitter who don't want Legends on Flash, or some of the Legends i.e. Sara Lance, are just a portion of fans who care for a portion of the show. (avalance, the baby, but this portion is even questionable if it was going to be on s8, as I am sure the writers would have sidelined avalance and the baby story any way, or not make it the way they imagined.)
My point is - majority of Legends fans know there is no hope for renewal and would have loved to see some Legends on Flash, and Sara and Barry team up.
I think the majority of Legends fans have always been against Legends Of Tomorrow being finished on The Flash. From the day Legends was cancelled, the main sentiment has been against this. Matt Mittovich from TV Line posted an article saying this should be done & asking Eric Wallace to do it & all over social media Legends fans were against it.
I've never seen any Legends fans hoping for them to appear on The Flash or for a Barry/Sara team up. Most Legends fans don't care about The Flash at all because of how bad it's gotten under Eric Wallace. Most Legends fans only want the Legends team to continue their story and/or wrap them up.
The #savelegendsoftomorrow campaign has been going since before it was cancelled & is still going strong with the cast, writers, & even James Gunn at least acknowledging it. A lot of fans are never going to give up hope.
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I don't understand why the surrogate had any rights to the child if she wasn't even the biological mother.