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1 hour ago, AntFTW said:
Cara’s telling Kam she has no reason to be mad or upset for Cara playing her game, but Cara got upset with Jasmine and Brandon for them playing their game.
I think there is a pretty big distinction between between not saying Rachel's name even though she was going in regardless and people she trusts saying her name and putting Cara into elimination. I have no problem with Brandon or Jasmin making the move they did it's good tv and they should be trying to get out good players, but they can't act like it shouldn't affect Cara.
Cara has always been emotional and she had her emotions, expressed them, and moved on. Then she did what she needed to which was get to the bottom of what was going on with Kam and proved that coming for her is not going to be without consequences. I don't know how I ended up the Cara apologist here haha I just feel like she's being judged too harshly for having feelings.
Also I can enjoy both Kam and Cara for the game play even if they are on opposite sides of the game.
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15 minutes ago, AntFTW said:
I just rewatched the last episode. I didn’t realize that she threw out Cara’s name in the previous episode. I missed that part so it threw me off as to how it got to this point.
Kam may have overreacted to Cara not voting her way, but it did signal that Cara might not be playing or aligned with her… but that’s a good thing to me. Kam is willing to take a shot. I appreciate that. Cara’s willing to shoot back. I also appreciate that.
I just didn’t appreciate Cara whining about it.
Truthfully I think Kam was just looking for an excuse because Cara is strong and has a really good chance of winning the season. That's fine and I'm here for the drama. I would prefer for Kam to just admit that though instead of trying to make it seem like not voting for Rachel was some great betrayal. It feels a lot like Jay thinking Nurys had to vote his way every time during 39.
I think Brandon and Leroy both knew they were going in before voting. Cara felt blindsided. She even asked Brandon before the vote and he lied to her. I think it's okay for her to be upset by that though it might have been a little much.
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4 hours ago, AntFTW said:
IMO, I'm not quite understanding the "game animosity" that Cara has toward Kam and Leroy. Kam didn't actually do anything (unless she did and it wasn't shown) to go against Cara. Kam didn't vote her in. As far as we saw, Kam didn't whip vote to throw Cara into elimination. Kam didn't actively do anything that jeopardizes Cara's game as far as I recall.
All Cara did was play her own game. She never said Leroy's name or Kam's name and she never intended to. Kam was the one that pushed Jasmin and Brandon to go against Cara. Kam pushed Cara's name the same terrible offense that Ayanna had done to Kam. Kam wanted total control over Cara's vote or no Cara to go against. That was Kam's decision. I say this as some who likes both of them a lot but Kam started the war not Cara.
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So multiple witnesses and Olivia admits it happened but Jay is just going to stick with "no you're all lying"? Bold strategy let's see how that works out for you.
40 minutes ago, Jobiska said:"You bring too much drama," said to Big T and Melissa by the guy wearing a marching band uniform.
Yeah but see Emmanuel doesn't understand this is a reality show and the people on it should be interesting not just hiding in the background. I do hope we never see him again because he's so boring. He hooks up with half the women on the cast, wins the whole thing, and still manages to be less interesting than unbuttered toast.
I do not like Colleen. I can't give more specifics just no to her. The same with Asaf.
Callum is dog and I as much as I don't like Michele she did not deserve to be treated that way.
I enjoyed Ed in SLA, but he contributed nothing here and I'm starting to thing he might be as boring as Emmanuel.
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Olivia betrayed Nurys for Michele and Jay and Jay's like I don't trust her.
Everyone has discussed Berna's awful personality and behavior but SHE has a problem with Nurys's behavior yeah no.
Emmanuel doesn't like Nurys's confidence after she single handedly took out 4 competitors in the last 2 challenges? Shut up. Go Nurys
I hate everyone else.
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6 hours ago, SailorGirl said:
This story actually makes me angry for some reason. . . 🤬
I can tell you why it makes me angry. That woman is clearly not Shelly Miscavige. They know it's not her they talked to Mike Rinder and other people who know her and they all said that woman is clearly not Shelly Miscavige. She looks nothing like Shelly. But Scientologists and other doubters will be using this story for years to say "See she's fine, she was on the Freewinds. She's just choosing not to be public." It's just a cash grab that will actually hurt the chances of ever getting justice for Shelly.
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6 hours ago, 2727 said:
What is that in reference to?
I kind of like it when Peggy is mean, and I loved that she bonded with the pastor over it. This wasn't the best episode that they have done but I still enjoyed it quite a bit.
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You can call me crazy but I cracked up at the “I’m the pastor now” line.
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This video by Aaron Smith-Levin details how one of the episodes got scrapped. It's a pretty amazing/ insane story!
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Tony Ortega wrote about that case in January.
I do think it would be hard to find people to testify for the defense because CO$ is going to throw it right back at them as ammunition. See, these people can't be trusted they are trying to help a multiple murder!
Also they do a Superbowl commercial every year it's just not a national ad. It only air in certain markets that have lots of Scientologists. The Mr. Peanut response was great.
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18 hours ago, ElectricBoogaloo said:
I hope that when this show ends, they know ahead of time so that they can write it as a final season (as opposed to a bunch of cliffhangers). As sad as I was to see 12 Monkeys end, they were given the opportunity to wrap everything up in the final season.
This is where I am. I'm just happy to know season 5 is happening. If season 5 is the last one at least let them tie it up nicely and keep the quality level high. I would rather 5 great seasons than have the show falter and peter out for 2 or 3 more seasons.
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Good news ahead of the new season!!!
https://tvline.com/2019/01/22/the-magicians-renewed-season-5-syfy/
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On 1/9/2019 at 12:05 PM, iMonrey said:
You also have to wonder why these people can't sue to get their money refunded. I know the CO$ calls what they've paid "donations" in order to hide behind it, but we know people have access to these price sheets because they are showing them to us on this television show! You would have to think once a jury gets a gander at these things there's no way they would ever side with the CO$.
It will never go to a jury. All Scientologists have to sign agreements with fine print that states any disputes will be handled by Scientology arbitration which is binding. The arbitrators are all Scientologists in good standing with the church and will never side with you over the church. Look into the lawsuit filed by Luis and Rocio Garcia to understand better. The suit dragged on for many years and there are lots of articles on it so I can't really link it here but you'll see how they could never get around the who arbitration thing no matter how clearly biased it was.
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Gellis killed her husband because she believed it would help her travel but there is no sign that actually had an impact. She mostly made blood sacrifices because she was a psycho. Claire told her repeatedly she didn’t need a blood sacrifice but Gellis didn’t want to risk it.
There was buzzing in the cave when Claire looked at the pool but there were also drums happening outside so it wasn’t as distinctive. And just because Gellis didn’t mention the buzzing doesn’t mean she didn’t hear it. We already know that she can travel and those who can travel hear the buzzing. Ergo she can hear the buzzing. They mention it mainly when discussing people we aren’t sure about. Can Fiona? no can Roger? yes. We already know about Gellis so it doesn’t need to be fleshed out.
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2 minutes ago, Atlanta said:
Can't remember which character said it in the book (IIRC in the show Murtagh says it), but Leghair will still be an immature girl (not a woman) even when she's 50.
It was Old Alec the head groom at Castle Leoch that said it in the book, but yes I thought just the same thing once she started spewing her nonsense about Jamie sending Claire away because he didn't want kids.
I can totally accept the rage filled I hate your mother stuff. BUT the underhanded your father never wanted you stuff was just such a vindictive, mean-spirited thing to do.
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8 minutes ago, Netfoot said:
But if I had to build it myself, I just might settle for something a little less ambitious. Especially if I had to finish it by first snow.
Exactly, they need a better shelter than the one they currently have before winter hits. So build a small cabin now and then you can start working on a big house in the spring.
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5 minutes ago, iMonrey said:
I admit that the impact of Valerie's story about escaping in a car trunk is somewhat diminished by the fact that she willingly went back and then left "the correct way." It makes it sound like she never needed to escape that way in the first place if they were just going to let her walk out of there. I also wondered what kind of relationship she has with her father if he's still a Scientologist. Regardless of whether they're in the SeaOrg or not, don't all Scientologists have to disconnect from family members that leave the church? Isn't that what we heard over and over again from all the other people that have been on this show?
I would argue that because she left the way she did her family knew she wanted out and thus would be expecting her to leave so they would notice if she were being held. Before that they think is everything is fine and just think she's been reassigned so can't talk as much. Also every communication into and out of that base is monitored so the church could easily keep her from getting out where as the other way the family would know something is wrong if she never left again.
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I really enjoyed this episode and for once I didn't cry. That escape in the trunk of a car was great stuff. I love that she was watching a story about brainwashing in the Korean War and was like OMG that's what they are doing to us. Time to take these bastards down. (In a totally legal nonviolent way of course).
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16 minutes ago, taanja said:
Hm? The show does NOT do a good job explaining the rules and regulations of time travel. Maybe the books do a better job? Because a s a viewer I wonder every ep why the hell they don't just go to more modern times and avoid all the violence and terror they seem to encounter on a regular basis. hell! I would PAY to see Jamie encounter the modern world! And to watch Claire show him the wonders of modern technology!
The show has addressed it some but I agree not particularly well. What they really haven't shown is how dangerous travelling through the stones can be. Every time Claire travels it is much harder on her. When she returns to Jamie in the third book she is certain that another trip would kill her. Also people sometimes get lost in time during the trips or just show up dead at the stones. I often see stuff like why doesn't Claire just pop over to visit Bri and come back. The answer is because it is super dangerous to do that.
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1 hour ago, iMonrey said:
Technically, isn't this actually S3 E1? The Jehovah's Witnesses was a one-off special.
on the A&E website JW episode is listed as S3 E0. The Emotional Aftermath from last Sunday was S3 E1.
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24 minutes ago, Mardo2044 said:
Will was never in it, but Jada Picket supposedly was and I had a real side eye when Remini made nice with them. I think she just said they were at a party at Cruise's house and it maybe implied dabbling in Scientology. Anyway, she has been really good about standing for truth I don't know why she caved in this. Makes me wonder if Will Smith is up for a Disney role. (Disney advertises or supports somehow Remini's show)
Will was a dabbler and Jada claims she did no more than dabble but Tony Ortega's source inside of the Celebrity Center said she was very involved for a while. They also opened a school that used Scientology study tech for a short while. Both were completely done with Scientology by 2015.
Disney owns A&E that produces and airs Leah's show.
I really did think the Red Table show that Leah did with Jada was great. They talked things out like adults and while I think Jada glossed over just how into Scientology she used to be, she clearly isn't anymore if she is willing to make nice with Leah.
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47 minutes ago, Rilla-my-Rilla said:
There was also that cave water portal thing Geillis was going to go through in Jamaica last season to get to Bree. But then she lost her head.
Correct the but the only one Bri would know about is Craigh Na Dun.
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18 minutes ago, taanja said:
Ok ok! I obviously am putting way more logical thought into this than the author.
I mean you are somewhat. This isn't a book thread but the author actually does discuss this somewhat. <NONE OF THIS IS A BOOK SPOILER> You just have to accept that Claire's love for Jamie outweighs all the inconveniences of preindustrial times. We are also supposed to believe that Claire is more or less prepared for this because she was raised by her archaeologist uncle and grew up basically sleeping in tents and cooking by a fire. Of course that logic works a lot better the first time through and not after she's been living the lap of luxury for the past 20 years.
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4 minutes ago, iMonrey said:
I can't remember if they ever discussed this in the show, but can someone who has read the books tell me:
Have Claire and Jamie ever discussed the possibility of going back to Claire's time together? Did they ever think of trying that? Because it seems to me that would solve an awful lot of problems. Not only would Jamie get to meet his daughter but they would be spared the weekly tragedies and constant danger they find themselves suffering because of how primitive the times were.
Not everyone can travel through the stones and Jamie cannot. When Roger and Bree first went to the standing stones they could hear them buzzing as could Claire when ever she has been near some sort of portal. Jamie has never heard the stones and at the end of the 2nd season when Claire is going back she asks him to go with her but he touches the stones and says he can't. If Claire goes back she does so alone.
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S04.E05: The Way You Make Me Steal
in The Challenge: All Stars
Kam is entitled to her feelings jus as much as Cara even if I don't personally feel they are on the same level of "betrayal" or whatever. I do also think it's fair to say that Kam is not that far removed from postpartum, away from her child and still pumping. It's natural for her to be more emotional and take slights more personally than she might otherwise. It's also why she could be more gung-ho about getting out big threats. I doubt Cara could really empathize with that much. I doubt it would even occur to her.