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lizzyp

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  1. I wish the seasons were longer- it feels like storylines were too rushed.  Madame was one that should have shown more, for sure.  Why put her in a wheelchair then reveal that she can walk and then not explain why they put her in the wheelchair?  Maybe it'll come out next season?

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  2. On 8/8/2018 at 8:26 AM, dubbel zout said:

    I'd die laughing (and give a standing ovation to the writers) if it turns out Zlata is actually from, say, Iowa, and she's been faking being Russian because it was the best way to get into the business.

    Is Chapter 20 in my book.

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  3. Dammit if this silly, outrageous trashy show doesn't know exactly how to make me tear up!  Polly and her sister, Virginia cleaning the apartment and labeling all the food, Bryce and Jenn getting turned down at the bank, Desna and Dean at the end...then the rollercoaster heads back up when Bryce offs the Rabbi or Roller wants to know why they can't just sell the drugs to the kids from across the park,   They really do sneak some great writing in, in between the outrageous stuff!

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  4. I am really conflicted regarding Anne and Arlene.  Yes, Arlene had a very good point when she said she was doing what she had to do to get her career back after Anne drugged her and got her fired.  However, Arlene was at the same time using Anne to further her career so it wasn't like she 1) didn't know who and what Anne was from the beginning, and 2) wasn't using Anne to further her own agenda.  It isn't like Arlene was completely innocent.  That is one of my favorite things about this show.  It really forces me to look at behavior from both perspectives and ask if my side of the street is really as clean as I like to think it is.  Most of the time the answer is no. 

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  5. 3 hours ago, Tikichick said:

    IMO Quiet Ann spilled some tea and the arrest protects Desna.  Ken was told, we want the Russians.

    ...oooooohhhhhh- I hadn't looked at it like that, but that is a very good possibility!  It makes me feel better.  I don't like it when the girls are upset with each other.

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  6. I loved The World According to Garp but  I also have serious issues with Jenn's act.  I'm interested to see how it will play out though, because just because the scene was written and filmed doesn't mean it is condoned.  They could be setting up some serious other shoes to fall.  I hope so.  Especially after crazy swamp lady last season.  I would hope they learned a lesson from how icky that was.  I think if it doesn't get some kind of slap back I'll reconsider my investment in the show. 

  7. I have to ask because the suspense is killing me-

    Doctor Terrific started love bombing Desna before Zlata ever showed up.  Now Doc and Zlata are in cahoots to set Desna up as the patsy.  So do we think Zlata knew she was going to come to Palmetto and off Reva, so she made a point of getting to know some of the locals before hand?  Or that she didn't meet Doc until after she got there, but they became tight enough to work together and trust one another in a very short time.  I think the sex is just sex, so I'm not including that in my calculus but wondering how long Doc and Zlata have been working together is really bothering me because of his meetings with Uncle Daddy.  Are they really working together or are they just using each other- I NEED TO KNOW!

     

    With regard to a possible Roller redemption/ reuniting with Desna- I hope not, and so far this show has done a pretty good job of not falling into the obvious cliches, so I'm going to trust them for now.  Roller is being rehabbed, no doubt, but I can see them going a completely different way like Roller falls in love with Mail Order Bride- they team up to take down Zlata but Bride (of Bogdan) dies and Roller becomes crazier and more ruthless than Uncle Daddy.

     

    Speaking of Uncle Daddy- holy wow that bar fight was bananas.  Uncle Daddy is the Honey Badger and he does NOT give a shit.

  8. On 7/8/2018 at 8:45 AM, anniebird said:

    I'm rewatching the whole series - at the beginning of season 3, Nate escapes from jail and then nothing more is ever said about it. I can enjoy suspension of belief up to a point but I think this was the point. Did I miss something?

    I always thought he got some kind of reprieve for taking down the crooked warden and the judges that were taking kickbacks.  Bonano strikes me as the kind who could look away from Robin Hood felonies but I can't see him being okay with knowing an escaped con was back living in his nice condo and hanging at the bar.  Then again, Nate was in jail for taking down the guy that put the hit on him, so maybe that made him extra blind.  But I also remember Shelley asking him 'shouldn't that bother you?' and Bonano said 'you get used to it' so....now this is gonna bug me.  Darn you Anniebird!!

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  9. I think Desna is fully aware of how crazy Zlata is, but she is also seeing that there is some method to the madness, and that the method may be valuable.  She is also being seduced by the money, which is kind of exactly how they suck you in, isn't it?  Give you enough of what motivates you that you start to normalize the lifestyle.  Exactly what Clay did to Bryce in season 1. 

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  10. 1 hour ago, SimoneS said:

    I wonder if the adoption was even real. Was Arlene conning Ann for the whole relationship or did she turn on Ann once she realized that she had been set up? She is still a cop despite Ann thinking otherwise.

    I was wondering what strings Arlene pulled with DCF to get someone to make that call -she never stopped conning Ann. 

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  11. I finally got to watch the whole episode, and I am more in love with this show than ever. 

    As tacky and crass as Zlata is, she's kinda right about a lot of things.  I sort of hate myself for saying that, but she makes some valid points.

    Jenn's relapse was incredibly well written and sad.  As a recovering alcoholic I've told several people that to this day THE best thing I've ever felt is that feeling when the alcohol hits you.  She nailed it.  I am always touched by the little things that show how well and how long Jenn and Desna have been friends.  When Jenn warns Virgina to 'run' and when Desna calls Jenn 'black' and Jenn says she loves it when she does that.  They are like real life ride or die friends who love the hell out each other enough to embrace each other's worse sides as well as the good parts.

    Mama is a weird situation and I'm thinking it will be Dean who points out whatever it is that makes Desna see the light. 

    Polly is so much fun I love her scenes.  That debate was just hilarious, particularly when the 'panel' gave their opinion on Jenn's claim about a 'one night stand'. 

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  12. 6 hours ago, Happy Harpy said:

    Excessive? Wayans took it to Twitter to answer and defend himself, after the show was renewed, against the accusations and insults that he was a victim of there from the moment the news broke. The Twitter tinfoil hats accused him of blowing things out of proportion, of being the only one to complain about Crawford, of inventing everything, of being the one who endangered the show (?!), of being responsible for Crawford's firing out of jealousy, etc. Those accusations and insults I'd call "excessive", and I don't see how he could have responded without talking about what Crawford actually did and how his firing was the result of Crawford's own doing. He sounded outraged, not gleeful -which is why he should have stayed silent, imo, it's always better to speak with a clear head.

    He had stayed silent until then and has stayed silent since, even after the last Variety article. I didn't see Crawford's apologists protest too much about this one, by the way, although it was a done conflict since he was already fired.

    But it's not done, since some people still try to find excuses to Crawford by diluting his abuse in mud thrown at Wayans (like in the aforementioned article).

    Yes, I did. And my point is, the situation calls for being specific, since there is one responsible for this incident and it's Crawford.

    ...and like I said before, he could have dropped hints, he could have used words like 'difficult' or 'passionate' or 'hot headed' but he chose to got with 'emotional terrorist' and that, to me, seemed excessive.  I was talking about my feelings, I did not present it as 'fact' and I haven't claimed to know the truth.  Nor have I defended Crawford because I don't know what happened.

    Your constant reference to 'the Twitter tinfoil hats' tells me that you are quite convinced that your opinion is correct and no other will be tolerated, so how about we just stop it all right here - I will NOT apologize for my feelings and I'm not making judgements or accusations, so it really doesn't seem like something worth 'arguing' about.

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  13. 5 hours ago, Happy Harpy said:

    The simple fact is that for all his flaws, Wayans didn't abuse anyone and Crawford did. That's why one still has a job and the other doesn't.

    I never said anything about whether one deserved to be without a job or not, I simply said that since Crawford had already been removed from the show, there was no longer any 'threat' to Wayans or any other cast or crew member, so taking it to Twitter seems excessive.  I stand by that, no matter who did it or which 'side' of the stick they were on - it was a done conflict.

  14. 13 hours ago, Gigi43 said:

    Roller's "you're a man of God, this shit isn't holy" at the wedding  may be the line of the episode.  Huh so he hasn't gone right to Desna that the doctor is dirty I thought he'd be impulsive enough to want rub it in. I like Desna telling  Polly to go to her fake personality happy places

     

    This insane start was okay and fun for a return but it will get old fast if the season is about upping the crazy antics. Riva wasn't as nearly annoying to listen too than her sister which is a big downside to this change.

    'You're in Hyannis Port and all Kennedy's are there - even the shitty ones!' had me howling.

    I am so glad this show is back - it must be a blast to write for and I get the feeling the writers are going to ride it for all they can.  Nothing is too outrageous.

    Jenn's nail art deer was SPECTACULAR.

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  15. 6 hours ago, Irlandesa said:

    I think firing him and not picking up his option when he appeared to want to continue is a distinction without much of a difference, especially when it comes to HR matters.  HR departments aren't usually prone to sharing information about employee discipline unless they're rather dysfunctional (and there are plenty out there.)

    I get why Wayans spoke up. He felt he was unfairly being blamed for Crawford's firing and he probably was.  But he probably would have been much better not taking to Twitter and instead let things leak as they have.

    Whether he felt he was being unfairly blamed or not, the simple fact is that he has a job and Crawford doesn't.  He'd already gotten what he wanted, so whether it was or not, it seemed like a late hit.  I'm a middle child, what can I say?  I don't know what went on and I'll keep watching the show, but I'm having a hard time picturing Scott bringing the complexity to the character that Crawford did.  Doesn't mean that I won't still enjoy Wayans performance, and I agree with so many above who have mentioned the wonderful dynamic the Murtaugh family has.  I may also enjoy Scott's performance. 

    It just means that I think Tweeting some of what Wayans tweeted was unnecessary.  Saying in an interview that someone was mercurial, hot headed, difficult or any number of other things is very different from posting pictures of 'he's an emotional terrorist' stickers. 

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  16. On 5/26/2018 at 3:55 PM, Irlandesa said:

    We aren't necessarily going to get details. The WB and HR aren't likely going to release the details.  It's one of the hardest things with a co-worker is fired.  Everyone wants to know why and yet it rarely is shared.  The person Crawford paid likely signed an NDA.  And people have a lot to lose in speaking up.  Wayans spoke up and is largely attacked on social media for being jealous, a lying liar who lies....etc.  Wayans has enough clout to weather that, although he left social media, but for a lower level person, it's probably not worth it.  Heck, even for an upper level person, it's probably not worth it, especially now that he's gone.

    It was my understanding that Crawford wasn't fired- his contract wasn't renewed.  Legally that is a big difference, and it would mean that there was no real reason that people couldn't talk about it.  What made my whiskers quiver was that Wayans waited until after the re-cast to take it to Twitter.  Whether it was or not, it FELT like he was kicking the guy after he was already down, and it felt unnecessary to me.

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  17. On 3/25/2018 at 12:31 PM, Loandbehold said:

    I imagine this cross-over as a two-hour movie to allow for more and different character interactions. 

     

    I was having trouble pairing Sophie w/ someone. I like your idea.

    Sophie buddying up with Jenkins has some very interesting possibilities.

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  18. On 3/9/2018 at 8:36 AM, libgirl2 said:

    My husband said TNT spent all their money on The Alienist which he doesn't like so he is ticked at this news. I like The Alienist, but they really threw a lot of money behind it with advertising and contests. 

     

    And I agree about Noah Wylie. I can live with him not being on the show that much. 

    They seem to do that with 1 big show each year.  They really seem to have their favorites and anything else is left to sink or swim. 

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