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I wonder if Amma enticed Camille into taking various drugs that night with the hope she would get a hangover (or feel ill in some way), thus prompting Adora to get out the blue bottle and alert Camille to what was going on. A cry for help. Or, failing that, Camille would feel ill and be "taken care of" by Adora's blue bottle and not be able to leave town the next day. Camille refused the blue bottle and left the house; Adora took Amma's second phone; and the laptop seems to be out of commission. I have a feeling Amma is going to do something desperate to try to get Camille's attention now. I have no idea how this relates to the murders of Anne and Natalie.
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On 6/3/2018 at 2:59 PM, Captanne said:
Am watching “The Expanse”. Jared Harris is in it and I saw a brilliant clip. There are several seasons and I have no idea when he turns up. Good episode 1 so far. Johnathan Banks is in it so I can’t complain.
I came here hoping some Terror fan would have an idea for the next show I can watch...I feel like I've seen every show on all those "best shows on Netflix" etc. sites. So thanks for this; I'll check it out.
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7 minutes ago, clb1016 said:
Why is Shiv marrying anyone at all? She's independently wealthy; she's happy in her career; she's never expressed any desire to have children at this point in her life (which she could do anyway without a husband); and she clearly doesn't take the idea of fidelity seriously. I could more easily understand her choice of Tom as a husband if I could figure out why she's decided to take a husband.
Not sure either. Possibly it's so she can tell all the men she messes around with that she's married, keeping them at arm's length, and since she isn't emotionally invested in Tom at all, this setup protects her from getting too deeply attached to anyone. It broke down a bit when her father turned against her and she actually needed emotional support.
By the way, her refrain of "we're both adults" as code for "I will be cheating on you often" is hilarious.
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7 hours ago, scrb said:
Again, an episode named after a place in Europe, specifically the Czech Republic, but the action doesn't take place in Europe.
Yeah, I'm wondering why they've named two episodes after places in the Czech Republic. Both were scenes of battles in various wars, but they could have picked battle/city names from anywhere in the world.
Tom and Greg are the absolute best at looking uncomfortable. Tom immediately regretted saying the details of his encounter out loud. I think Shiv and Roman don't feel shame, so they never have a chance to use that facial expression, and Connor is enclosed in a sturdy bubble of delusion that allows him to think everything is fine at all times.
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I'm a little confused about the board stuff. Can a CEO fire the board members? I mean, apparently he did. I usually hear about boards firing a CEO. I guess the reverse scenario can happen if their contracts allow it?
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Just caught up to this point. I'm not bothered by the fact that I don't like anybody; I'm interested to see how the pieces fit together, how each of them goes about manipulating the others, and wondering who will come out on top.
On 6/27/2018 at 9:49 AM, northboundtrain said:I was stunned to find myself feeling some sympathy for Tom, who mostly just repulsed me the last few episodes.
Yes, he's been horrible (and I'm sure still is), but I felt a glimmer of sympathy because of his instinct to bring the crimes out in the open via a press conference. Of course he also saddled Greg with the knowledge, thus infecting him with the virus. Not that I think Greg is some doe-eyed innocent. He's an idiot who lost the first (?) family-connected position he had and is apparently unable to get a job on his own or make any move without calling his mom. I find him the most fun to watch; although in this episode, Connor's butter-fueled frenzy was the best.
Any scene where Brian Cox is semi-conscious makes me think of his coma scenes in Rushmore.
At this point I'm wondering why Logan ever planned to allow Kendall to step up? And I'm halfway thinking that it was always a scheme to pull the rug out from under Kendall after getting his hopes up. The stroke was an unexpected complication that allowed the Kendall thing to proceed a bit farther than it should have. Logan seems like he could be that cruel. No idea why he went along with making Roman C.O.O., unless it's that he doesn't see Roman as a threat.
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9 minutes ago, SunnyBeBe said:
But, it was a little unrealistic that E would not have had a lot of discussion with Paige about what happens IF....she didn't have a bag ready, just in case. Certainly, Paige would have wondered what the plan was, if they got detected. It really fell flat for me, that they couldn't call Paige and give her a topsy turvy code message, she would know what it means, prepare and follow the plan. Her standing there being so ill prepared, like the idea never occurred to her just seemed like more of the same to me.
Absolutely. I can't believe they had no prearranged plan, let alone a code phrase, set up with Paige. I mean, we all know her training has been poor, with Elizabeth holding back tons of stuff, so it fits. But I was amazed nonetheless.
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4 minutes ago, BW Manilowe said:
Is it just me, or does anyone else find it ironic (or did anyone even realize) that the last episode of the series is titled "START" (& I know that was actually an acronym for something related to US/Soviet relations at the time: the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty)?
Yes, it's great! The series ends with a START. Oleg starting his life in prison, Elizabeth and Philip theirs in the USSR, Stan lying to Aderholt for the rest of his career, etc.
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9 minutes ago, Marianna said:
How did they find Arkady/get past border patrol?
Code words? We saw Elizabeth say something to the border patrol guard and then he went to make a call.
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3 minutes ago, JennyMominFL said:
I missed the very first convo between Elizabeth and Phillip. We had a flood warning on the TV and I missed a good 4minutes of dialogue. Can someone clarify whose idea it was to leave henry, and also, did Philip and Elizabeth each tell the other what had just happened.
It was Philip's idea to leave Henry, and he persuaded Elizabeth. The recap gives the full dialogue, I think. You should watch the scene if you can, though, to see Elizabeth's face as she digests the idea that he's really better off in America. Philip tells Elizabeth right away about Father Andrei, and then after they're in a car driving to get Paige, she tells him what she did.
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I had been thinking that Paige could not possibly get off scot-free. I wasn't thinking of DNA evidence, but that she would crack under questioning. After all, we've seen her shout "Mom!" at a crime scene, forget someone's name, and forget that she shouldn't punch people in public. However, it does make sense to me that Stan might protect her, to prevent her from revealing that he let the killer spies go. So thanks to everyone who brought up that possibility.
I do wonder what her alibi will be for that evening. Best bet is probably to admit she was on the run but say she was coerced. If she pretends she was out somewhere else, that's a whole complicated thing to make up and she'd have to explain why her ID is missing (unless she dug it up on her way back to the safe house). Then again, since she never spoke on the phone to Henry, she could plausibly claim she wasn't with P&E, but I don't see Paige being able to stick to a convincing story about where she was that night (one that holds up when the FBI checks it out, including asking Paige's friends or people at the school library or wherever she claims to have been).
I thought it was interesting that P&E never told Paige before about the escape plan. She was shocked to hear they were going to the USSR, and so flabbergasted that she couldn't comprehend that she had to pack a bag. In the 2-3 years of her spy training, they never talked to her about the possibility of fleeing the country. No wonder she hopped off the train. What American kid would agree to go into exile, on an hour's notice.
As an aside, Paige's disguise was a perfect 80s look. As she stood on the train platform looking tragic, her appearance reminded me of someone from the 80s, but I couldn't think of whom. Then it hit me:
(Mike Mills, the bass player from R.E.M., center).
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9 minutes ago, Ellaria Sand said:
That was not Law & Order Stan. Perhaps it should have been. Instead, it was Beer-Drinking Buddy Stan. I imagine that weeks/months from now, as Stan continues to process these events, the law & order version of him may come to understand the extent of their crimes.
Yeah, I agree that the FBI will put more together over time. I just wish we could have gotten a peep at Stan dealing with that understanding.
"Beer-Drinking Buddy Stan"...every time Stan came over for a beer, it reminded me of Noah Emmerich's role in The Truman Show (he always carried as six-pack of beer, partially as product placement in the show-within-a-show and partially to distract Truman from questioning what was going on).
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The scene in the garage with Stan reminded me of The Sound of Music, in the churchyard when Capt. von Trapp tries to persuade Rolf to let them go. I can't believe Stan let them go, though. I guess he really believed, or wanted to believe, that they didn't do the murders? I would have liked to see a scene later on that showed Stan grappling with the fact that he let them go and basically has to live a lie now (he will have to lie to Aderholt, who had Thanksgiving at his house with the Jenningses, for the rest of his life).
I also would have liked a bit more on what happens to Paige now. I can't quite believe she doesn't crack immediately under questioning.
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34 minutes ago, Umbelina said:
I do. Easily. Last montage of the season, it's all settled, one of the minor scenes in the montage is Renee putting a chalk mark on a mailbox (or another fast spy thing like picking up a dead drop) and we realize that even though the FBI is rounding up embedded spies? Russian spying continues in the USA. Which it does and did, long after the Cold War finished. It's not "out there" it's reality.
For me, that would not be a good ending. Spying continues...but within Stan's marriage? That seems like a whole other show, or at least something that should have been explored earlier, not in the final moments which, IMO, should be all about Elizabeth and Philip and the final choices they make after 6 seasons. Anyway...time to start prepping the viewing area! Have fun!
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16 minutes ago, Erin9 said:
I’d just like there to be a point to Renee beyond just giving Stan a wife. She’s already horribly underwritten. There’s nothing real about her. Sandra felt like a real person.
I agree 100%. I just don't see how a Renee KGB revelation can happen in the final episode without stomping all over the dramatic tension re: the spy-friend relationship that has been built up since episode 1. I'm not giving up hope, though; I'll be looking for a very cleverly written and executed twist!
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I've been hoping for a Renee payoff since she was introduced. But I think at this point, it's not gonna happen. If Stan is married to a KGB spy, it makes his friendship with neighbor KGB spies pale in comparison. It totally overshadows the drama of Stan's relationship with Philip and Elizabeth. A minor character can't overshadow everyone else in the final episode. At least, I hope not.
I remain baffled by all the hints about Renee and what her significance really is.
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Everyone has discussed the major points of the episode so eloquently. Now here's a minor one I'm wondering about. Why did the show pick, of all movies in the world, I Was A Male War Bride to play in the video store scene? I saw the movie long ago and all I can think is that it's a tribute to the many wigs of Philip and Elizabeth. Cary Grant plays a Frenchman who marries a WAC during the war. In one famous scene, he has to dress like a woman, due to the military not being able to cope with foreign spouses who are men.
The dialogue in the video store sounds like it's from the other famous scene in the movie, where Cary Grant has to ride in the sidecar of a motorcycle being driven by a woman--because only military personnel can drive the motorcycle. I guess there's also the contrast between this silly WWII comedy and Claudia's WWII experiences, and the reality of the cold war/planned coup that's going on in the show.
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At first, I thought Carrie, Saul, and the fake lawyer had contrived to give Dante something relatively harmless, while inking up his hands, to make him think he'd been poisoned like General McClendon. But apparently they really poisoned him? That seems...kind of insane.
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11 hours ago, bigmag said:I did not even realize Drew was also the semi-dopey police officer on Search Party, until I read it here.
I think you mean the police officer on Stranger Things, right?
You meant on Stranger Things, right? (Sorry about the double post - didn't use quote option for first reply)
Yes, I did! Will edit, thanks.
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I just watched Finding Frances. It was incredible. There were so many layers of acting/lying. First, Bill is shown from a past episode where he was introduced as a Bill Gates impersonator. Later, we find out he was never a Bill Gates impersonator (so he was a Bill Gates impersonator impersonator?). He's in love with a woman he knew 50 years ago, and tells Nathan a tale of how the relationship was thwarted because his mom didn't like it ("I should've married her...everybody interfered"). It turns out the relationship was probably thwarted by Bill moving away and cheating on Frances. Meanwhile, Nathan starts a relationship with an escort, someone whose profession is to give people the illusion of a relationship. And we know Nathan never breaks character; his entire persona is a performance. "Nathan" falls for the escort. The cherry on top is when Bill falls for the actress who role-played Frances!
I had to go back and re-watch the beginning of the episode after letting it all sink in. The episode starts out meta, with Nathan and Bill recording DVD commentary for a Nathan For You DVD. It ends with Nathan telling Maci it would be cool to have a drone shot, followed immediately by the drone pulling back and showing all the camera crew around Nathan and Maci. I think the only genuine relationship in this whole thing was the one between Bill and his niece. Crazy.
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John Reynolds is Drew, John Early is Elliot. They are both great! I did not even realize Drew was also the semi-dopey police officer on Stranger Things, until I read it here.
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Elliot's outfits are usually insane (wonderfully so). I wish I had a look book of them. It's interesting that when he finally loses control, the clothes are gone. His skin and hair just completely rebelled.
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The actors are all amazing in this. The things they can convey without speaking.
Portia's director is super-creepy and super of the moment. Watching her scenes with the director, as well as Dory's scene of getting the creep on the phone, I felt as if I was going back in time and becoming a 28-year-old being creeped on. Yech.
Man, that campaign worker was obnoxious and awful [clarification: the one who spilled coffee on Dory & then questioned whose fault it was. The other one, who snarked about Dory's lack of phone calls, was mean but not necessarily wrong]. I love Dory's lipstick color and outfit in the first day on the job.
I would really love to know if anything written on Elliot's "strips" makes sense. I'm guessing no, but it would be funny if he had written a coherent narrative.
Now I need to go soften my hands with some Jergens and pear paste. (??)
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On 10/18/2017 at 2:38 PM, Milaxx said:
Who's plan is is does matter. White Rose & Mr. Robot have much more nefarious motives than Darlene & crew. Idealistic people are notorious for causing mayhem & destruction without thinking through the full consequence. Darlene first and foremost didn't think beyond causing anarchy. Doing something with Elliot, being on equal foot as hi for once was also very important to here. BUT they all counted on the fact that the paper backup would eventually stabilize things. That's why Darlene is so upset at the thought of stage 2. Darlene was more than okay with a temporary destabilization of society. It's the permanent destruction that stage 2 brings along with seeing just how lethal Dark Army is that has her frightened.
Thinking about this, I really want to know more about Mr. Robot and "his" motivations. What is in Elliot's mind that makes his alter-ego 1) take the form of his dad 2) take part in a scheme that causes global anarchy. At the beginning of the series, Elliot was engaging in one-off hacking pursuits that targeted nasty individuals. Mr. Robot wanted, and accomplished, something bigger.
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S04.E09: Wiedersehen
in Better Call Saul
I've visited a nursing home that had an extensive collection of VHS tapes of the Lawrence Welk Show. That said...I can't believe the old Newlywed Show would be anybody's favorite nostalgia-binge-watch. So, while I agree it was meant to portray the realistic possibility of a nursing home showing TV shows from past decades, the choice of this particular show (and that particular dialogue--ugh) had to be some sort of commentary. Maybe a contrast to Kim & Jimmy's relationship? They would never participate in such tacky comments about each other, but also, they will never be newlyweds.