Farrah

[MissMel]

Nothing else that girl has done has gotten their attention so, yes, her mom having brain and lung(?) cancer probably did.  Mtv is gross but this chick is beyond a thirsty, special, princess snowflake.  I won't even get started on her too-stupid-to-remember-how-to-breathe husband.  Mostly because I think he has suffered some brain injury from the rodeos and car wrecks but he was behind the eight ball in that department to begin with.  Her little pea is working so hard overtime for the both of them that she doesn't have much left for the kids. 

It's a depressing situation all around.

[blatantlyobvious]

I think they’ll add MM as a “replacement” for Farrah, while keeping ME in as a side character, since she’s already filming with Ryan/Maci. Maybe they’ll bump up her pay & screen time, but there’s no reason to call her an official 4th girl since she’s already on. 

Even paying MM Briana-class wages and bumping up ME’s profile, MTV would still save both money and headaches compared to high-maintenance Farrah. 

[Calm81]

I actually wouldn’t mind MM being on TM OG. I was hoping for her over Briana when the rumors were running about a fifth TM2 mom being added.

The only thing I didn’t like about MM is the way she said “Josh” as it was all whiny sounding lol.

She is thirsty for attention but at least she’s off the couch. She was always running around doing something and was attentive to Gannon, her son. 

Josh was ANNOYING as he kinda reminded me of Ryan Edwards. Zzzzzzzz ? 

I forgot who it was that said it but I agree that MM would replace Maci’s number one spot in the quickest bounce back to the 10th degree. 

I’d rather MM versus giving ME more screen time. Plus, MM Mom was a nice woman, let’s hope she stays that way and doesn’t pull a Debz OG on us.

[TeeMo]

If Farrah is out, why not combine the OG shitshow with the shitshow sequel and get rid of the dead weight (Briana) for one larger shitshow? Chelsea barely has a storyline these days anyway and they are always trying to fill time with fluff. Lose Briana and Farrah and cut everyone else's screen time and paychecks. Make these girls realize the gravy train won't last forever.

I would rather watch that than either of those thirsty ass Mackenzies. 

[ginger90]

[ghoulina]

They're all thirsty, so that doesn't really single any of them out. Hell, Briana went and got pregnant again just to get back on the show! I'd definitely rather have MM than Briana. She's an idiot - and I completely agree with the Josh-Ryan comparison - but she doesn't seem like a nasty person. 

I also agree that there's zero point in giving ME her own slot. We already see plenty of her and they don't have to pay her starring role pay. 

Thirdly, I agree once again - with Farrah out, cut it down to one show. Kail, Jenelle, Cate, and Amber. The others don't really have much going on at all. 

[GreatKazu]

Josh has had head injuries. I think there was mention of at least two head concussions on TM3. I will give him a pass on his behavior since there is a medical history there. Not like Ryan where his drug use was considered some sort of head injury for the longest time and no one ever came out (like Josh's family) to state he had a head injury. They all just remained hush because Ryan is a drug user. They hid it until they could no longer hide it, including St. Maci who is just serving up fake storylines. 

Edited February 11, 2018 by GreatKazu

[ghoulina]

Well, I saw other similarities in Josh and Ryan. Josh just seemed like kind of an apathetic douche, brain injury aside. I still think Ryan likely DID have a head injury in that horrible wreck. Why no one has ever said anything, I don't know. And it's certainly not an excuse. 

[Jennifersdc]

I’m actually glad they got rid of Farrah. Her behavior with the crew has been unacceptable for years. See portapotty among others and screaming at a main producer he was white trash for associating so long with the other less “classy” members of the cast. She really seems to think she’s Mariah Carey.

Even Jenelle never made a cast of her vagina (yet). Farrah can do whatever she likes - kudos to her for far more hustle than the rest of these girls (in every instance), but I have to draw the line at saying it’s classy or smart (see including treating the people you actually work for/with like garbage). I’m glad she got called out on her diva (aka cunt) bullshit - even if it’s all MTV hype and they really haven’t fired her.

Edit - totally agree need to combine to one shitshow.

This could be fun! Let’s play! Five girls.

Kail

Amber

Jenelle

Leah

Chelsea

That’s my hand basket to Hell max entertainment factor (only including Chelsea cause she deserves an ongoing paycheck if she’s willing to participate).

Being nice selections (see excludes bitches who don’t deserve no paycheck - please excuse double negative).

Leah 

Chelsea

Maci 

Kail (through gritted teeth)

Got no fifth actually. Would be Cate (teeth grinding to nubs).

Edited February 12, 2018 by Jennifersdc

[alexa]

I just can't be on board with the fact that they would dump Farrah after they have allowed so much other behavior from the other girls throughout the years.  I think Jenelle being one of the biggest issues.  David has been pretty nasty to the crew, and Jenelle hasn't helped matters.  It makes no sense that after everything they have allowed to happen they would decide enough is enough with Farrah....

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

On 2/9/2018 at 10:29 AM, GreatKazu said:

Farrah was the only one who wasn't into MTVs agenda which was follow the script of fake storylines on the show. That is why she was booted.

Maci will lie about her custody battle and miscarriages. Cate will continue to go back to rehab and bring up about her supposedly being pregnant. Amber will continue to sit on her ass and acquire sores and produce more MTV spawn. 

 

Absolutely this!!! I never thought I'd say this, but #TeamFarrah!

 

On 2/10/2018 at 1:37 PM, MissMel said:

Nothing else that girl has done has gotten their attention so, yes, her mom having brain and lung(?) cancer probably did.  Mtv is gross but this chick is beyond a thirsty, special, princess snowflake.  I won't even get started on her too-stupid-to-remember-how-to-breathe husband.  Mostly because I think he has suffered some brain injury from the rodeos and car wrecks but he was behind the eight ball in that department to begin with.  Her little pea is working so hard overtime for the both of them that she doesn't have much left for the kids. 

It's a depressing situation all around.

I'm really sorry to hear her mom has this awful illness. Mackenzie M. just isn't very bright.  She couldn't seem to do the basics of adulting, let alone parenting, without a LOT of help from Grangie (what her son called her mom, Angie).  Then she added two more kids into the mix. She struck me as so very immature and so, so very not smart.  The girl is straight bricks.  I have no idea how she'll manage her own life, let alone raising three kids with Grangie very ill or if she passes away.  I'm not sure I need to see that struggle on TV as entertainment, either. 

3 hours ago, alexa said:

I just can't be on board with the fact that they would dump Farrah after they have allowed so much other behavior from the other girls throughout the years.  I think Jenelle being one of the biggest issues.  David has been pretty nasty to the crew, and Jenelle hasn't helped matters.  It makes no sense that after everything they have allowed to happen they would decide enough is enough with Farrah....

Absolutely. Don't get me wrong, I can't imagine how awful it could be to work with Farrah.  But I would choose working with Farrah over working with Jenelle & UBT or Amber any day. 

Edited February 12, 2018 by MyPeopleAreNordic

[EmeraldGirl]

Shouldn’t they go with a season 1 gal since it’s OG? The only other ones I remember were the military couple who got arrested for having a child in filthy conditions, and Whitney - whose mother was pregnant at the same time. I think she and her boyfriend got into trouble over stealing and drugs,  and wasn’t mom a dealer or something? Plenty quality material there!

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

That would make more sense, @EmeraldGirl. Or at least choose a 16&P girl who hasn't been on a TM show before. TM3 was cancelled because it was boring and a lot of the people on it were unlikeable (or at the very least, weren't people really found compelling enough to care about). 

If they're going to replace Farrah with anyone, I'd really like to see Jordan Cashmeyer from the last season of 16&P:

http://starcasm.net/archives/374581

Her life is (unfortunately) a trainwreck...but it sure as hell ain't boring. 

[GreatKazu]

39 minutes ago, alexa said:

I just can't be on board with the fact that they would dump Farrah after they have allowed so much other behavior from the other girls throughout the years.  I think Jenelle being one of the biggest issues.  David has been pretty nasty to the crew, and Jenelle hasn't helped matters.  It makes no sense that after everything they have allowed to happen they would decide enough is enough with Farrah....

Absolutely. MTV is greenlighting abuse, violence, sexual harassment, drug use, child neglect, child abuse, and DUI. 

Acting like a diva isn't illegal. In fact, it is reality tv norm.  

Farrah hasn't brought any violence or perpetuated any violence upon her fellow cast members. She hasn't threatened any MTV employee. She hasn't sexually threatened any of the producers. I don't even think I have ever read anything where Farrah has been upset about the editing of the show. Farrah hasn't put any of her crew in any sort of danger nor has she put innocent lives in danger by her actions on the show. All of those things have been committed by at least one cast member over the seasons. 

[CofCinci]

36 minutes ago, MyPeopleAreNordic said:

Absolutely this!!! I never thought I'd say this, but #TeamFarrah!

#TeamFarrah

Lately, I’ve become such a Farrah Apologist.  She’s being shamed for her sex work. Farrah is getting paid for what Amber and Janelle have online for free. I can’t even eat roast beef anymore because of Janelle’s nudes.

Farrah gets angry and cannot speak effectively but she hasn’t tried to punch other cast members on stage during reunions. She hasn’t driven a carload of kids while high.  How much alcohol did Farrah consume while pregnant?

She asked that the crew wear booties to protect her floor. Big fucking deal. She actually tries to keep her house clean and takes pride in her home. Catelynn actually has shit on the floor that her neglected kid nearly ate. Amber’s dogs shit and piss all over that rental house — hell, I’d wear booties myself if I had to walk into that dump.  Last season, I remember I took screengrabs of an episode where Maci had empty beer cans in nearly every scene.  Never scene empties at Farrah’s.

To me, it’s laughable that Farrah is being labeled a Bitch or a Cunt.  This is the narrative that is being shaped because they cannot discuss Heather’s firing. 

[GreatKazu]

2 hours ago, CofCinci said:

#TeamFarrah

Lately, I’ve become such a Farrah Apologist.  She’s being shamed for her sex work. Farrah is getting paid for what Amber and Janelle have online for free. I can’t even eat roast beef anymore because of Janelle’s nudes.

Farrah gets angry and cannot speak effectively but she hasn’t tried to punch other cast members on stage during reunions. She hasn’t driven a carload of kids while high.  How much alcohol did Farrah consume while pregnant?

She asked that the crew wear booties to protect her floor. Big fucking deal. She actually tries to keep her house clean and takes pride in her home. Catelynn actually has shit on the floor that her neglected kid nearly ate. Amber’s dogs shit and piss all over that rental house — hell, I’d wear booties myself if I had to walk into that dump.  Last season, I remember I took screengrabs of an episode where Maci had empty beer cans in nearly every scene.  Never scene empties at Farrah’s.

To me, it’s laughable that Farrah is being labeled a Bitch or a Cunt.  This is the narrative that is being shaped because they cannot discuss Heather’s firing. 

Word to your entire post.

Farrah hasn't had any trap babies or claimed to have had any miscarriages. She isn't running in and out of rehab while claiming depression only to then head on over to BoogieTown with her mom in tow. 

As for the bolded part - OMG Bwhahahaha!!!!

Thank goodness I am not drinking anything. It would have been splattered all over my keyboard. 

There are several reasons why Farrah was booted and not one of those reasons comes close to what the rest of the seahags have ever done and will continue to do. 

Edited February 12, 2018 by GreatKazu

[druzy]

Farrah was ganged up on and threatened with physical violence and SHE gets fired

[BlancheDevoreaux]

On 2/10/2018 at 4:44 PM, TeeMo said:

If Farrah is out, why not combine the OG shitshow with the shitshow sequel and get rid of the dead weight (Briana) for one larger shitshow? Chelsea barely has a storyline these days anyway and they are always trying to fill time with fluff. Lose Briana and Farrah and cut everyone else's screen time and paychecks. Make these girls realize the gravy train won't last forever.

I would rather watch that than either of those thirsty ass Mackenzies. 

It's almost sad, really, that Chelsea has barely any storyline left because she managed to get her act together and live a relatively drama-free life and she and her husband are able to provide for themselves outside of MTV. I can do without seeing Farrah, Amber, or Jenelle on the show. I go back and forth on Leah depending on if she is on drugs or not.  At least she does actually seem to want to take care of her kids (more than Amber or Jenelle) and appears to treat others with some kind of respect (more than I can say for Farrah). 

If I were to combine the two seasons into one, Brianna would be the first one out because I already don't watch her segments.  Amber, Jenelle, and Farrah would be cut in round two.  That leaves Catelynn, Maci, Chelsea, Leah, and Kailyn. If I had to cut it down to only four, I'd get ride of Catelynn.  She and Tyler are horrible examples for adoption, which is something very near and dear to my heart.  I can only imagine how many pregnant teens decided not to go the adoption route because of those two bozos.  

[teapot]

40 minutes ago, CofCinci said:

#TeamFarrah

Lately, I’ve become such a Farrah Apologist.  She’s being shamed for her sex work. Farrah is getting paid for what Amber and Janelle have online for free. I can’t even eat roast beef anymore because of Janelle’s nudes.

Farrah gets angry and cannot speak effectively but she hasn’t tried to punch other cast members on stage during reunions. She hasn’t driven a carload of kids while high.  How much alcohol did Farrah consume while pregnant?

She asked that the crew wear booties to protect her floor. Big fucking deal. She actually tries to keep her house clean and takes pride in her home. Catelynn actually has shit on the floor that her neglected kid nearly ate. Amber’s dogs shit and piss all over that rental house — hell, I’d wear booties myself if I had to walk into that dump.  Last season, I remember I took screengrabs of an episode where Maci had empty beer cans in nearly every scene.  Never scene empties at Farrah’s.

To me, it’s laughable that Farrah is being labeled a Bitch or a Cunt.  This is the narrative that is being shaped because they cannot discuss Heather’s firing. 

eeeekk  guys I cannot hop on the Farrah-love-train.

I get that in some ways she's been treated terribly...it might be a chicken-egg thing...she has a reputation for being difficult, so *everything* that comes out of her mouth gets scrutinized, whether she's actually being  a bitch or not, and might not have caused the same reaction had another girl said it...

but I still  *can't* with her "I'm -better-than-everyone" attitude...

nope.  I'll be waiting at the station...LOL

[GreatKazu]

On ‎2‎/‎12‎/‎2018 at 12:15 PM, teapot said:

eeeekk  guys I cannot hop on the Farrah-love-train.

I get that in some ways she's been treated terribly...it might be a chicken-egg thing...she has a reputation for being difficult, so *everything* that comes out of her mouth gets scrutinized, whether she's actually being  a bitch or not, and might not have caused the same reaction had another girl said it...

but I still  *can't* with her "I'm -better-than-everyone" attitude...

nope.  I'll be waiting at the station...LOL

I can understand your point. Farrah really did some things that made her such an unlikeable person. I was really harsh with her and saw her as an ungrateful bitch and didn't understand why she was so cruel to her parents. Well, after seeing Deb in action and hearing her deny ever abusing Farrah, it becomes more clearer to me where that rage comes from. Not that it excuses her behavior towards others, but I see Farrah differently than I did in the earlier seasons.

My feeling is that Farrah's "better than thou attitude" was likely stirred into motion when the other three girls made it clear they were better than her, and they truly believe they are better, classier, and they act as if they are not morally corrupt. They then bring in Kail into the mix and blast Farrah on Snapchat by slut-shaming her, Maci cheers them on at every turn, Kail laughs and claps, all the while taking every opportunity to remind the world what a terrible person Farrah is for entering into the sex business only because it is the one thing they haven't done and to them, that makes them pillars of the Teen Mom world. When MTV Larry and other production people got on the bandwagon, it then became a gang-up. It only serves to give the other TM girls credence to their belief that Farrah is the red-headed child and deserves to be treated like trash. Farrah is being bullied. MTV never went after Amber for trying to assault Farrah. They let it go. They didn't do anything to Matt. They overlooked all of that criminal behavior. Does MTV expect Farrah to be a happy-go-lucky cast member and forget how they treated her shabbily?  I'd be a raging bitch too if I had to deal with that kind of behavior. 

Edited February 14, 2018 by GreatKazu

[ghoulina]

3 hours ago, Jennifersdc said:

Even Jenelle never made a cast of her vagina (yet). Farrah can do whatever she likes - kudos to her for far more hustle than the rest of these girls (in every instance), but I have to draw the line at saying it’s classy or smart (see including treating the people you actually work for/with like garbage).

Jenelle would totally market a vagina mold.....if anyone would actually buy it. 

[GreatKazu]

13 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

Jenelle would totally market a vagina mold.....if anyone would actually buy it. 

And wasn't Jenelle turned down for a porn contract because she has STDs? 

Jenelle posts nearly nude photos of herself on social media. 

The adult industry is a legal business. Nothing wrong with sex molds or sex toys. Child abuse, domestic violence, assaulting people, and doing drugs is on a whole other level that shouldn't be compared to a legit business. 

Edited February 12, 2018 by GreatKazu

[DangerousMinds]

On 2/9/2018 at 1:12 PM, Snarky McSnarky said:

Why is Michael laughing his ass off?  He married the homely troll.  He's not exactly George Clooney, either.

Who is the homely troll?

[GreatKazu]

28 minutes ago, DangerousMinds said:

Who is the homely troll?

Deb

[CofCinci]

Also, Derrick died while she was pregnant and her monster of a mother wouldn’t even let her grieve for the guy or even process his death.  Farrah came across as a bitch because she had to keep so much in.

I’m totally a Farrah Stan now and I don’t even care. Looking up booties for my guests on Amazon now. 

[GreatKazu]

45 minutes ago, CofCinci said:

Also, Derrick died while she was pregnant and her monster of a mother wouldn’t even let her grieve for the guy or even process his death.  Farrah came across as a bitch because she had to keep so much in.

I’m totally a Farrah Stan now and I don’t even care. Looking up booties for my guests on Amazon now. 

"Looking up booties" I paused right there. It took me a few seconds to realize you meant booties for shoes and not the plural for BOOTY. 

I wish I could install a permanent porta-potty. 

[ginger90]

Debra the wacko retweeted this

[CofCinci]

How is Debra an amazing woman? She terrorized her children. 

[BlancheDevoreaux]

I know that is isn't considered appropriate to talk badly of the children, but Sophia is obnoxious.  I have a daughter who is a year younger than Sophia.  There are these times when she talks in such a way that she is clearly trying to be cute and put on a show for people.  My husband and I have to tell her to stop and tell her that anytime a kid tries to act cute, he or she almost always fails and ends up just looking annoying and weird.  That is how Sophia talks.  She reminds me of my daughter trying to be cute.  She also is clearly always trying to say what she is expected to say.  I'm not fan no Deb or David, so don't get me wrong here, but Sophia is clearly just parroting what Farrah has been saying.  And, for the love of all that is holy, Farrah, you spend hours on your hair and makeup.  Can you not take some time to make Sophia look like she didn't just escape living in the jungle with the wolf boy?

[Mothra]

18 hours ago, teapot said:

eeeekk  guys I cannot hop on the Farrah-love-train.

I get that in some ways she's been treated terribly...it might be a chicken-egg thing...she has a reputation for being difficult, so *everything* that comes out of her mouth gets scrutinized, whether she's actually being  a bitch or not, and might not have caused the same reaction had another girl said it...

but I still  *can't* with her "I'm -better-than-everyone" attitude...

nope.  I'll be waiting at the station...LOL

I can't either.  Her parents, especially her mother, deserve a special place in hell for giving us Farrah.  And sure, the other moms have behaved just as badly as--and worse than--Farrah, but imo the difference is that Farrah has a genuine, serious mental illness.  It has taken lo these many years for MTV finally to concede how dreadful it is that they're capitalizing on insanity--why else do we watch Farrah?  I watch to see her act crazy and humiliate herself, with her mother's disgusting attempts to do whatever it is she's trying to do (other than look like a fucking teenager) as the cherry on top.  I wonder if there have been complaints from any mental health professionals to MTV for their really abuse of Farrah for allowing her to expose herself this way.

I am not a professional, and it's only my amateur opinion from watching this show for years that makes me think Farrah is genuinely crazy.  And of course I could be wrong.  But I don't think I am.

And in my evil heart of hearts, I'd adore a show that secretly filmed Farrah after her departure, with the MTV money cut off, and see how popular she is in the porno world, see how much furniture, yogurt and children's clothing she can sell without the tv imprimatur.

[druzy]

Farrah gets angry at a Teen Mom producer over an incident involving Debra.

[CofCinci]

25 minutes ago, druzy said:

Farrah gets angry at a Teen Mom producer over an incident involving Debra.

You can tell Kristen and David are little trouble makers. They didn’t tell Farrah that her mother was in the car for 30 minutes.

Too bad Deb wasn’t in the car with the engine off and the windows up on a 90 degree day. 

[ghoulina]

I do not like Farrah, but I feel bad for her. I do not like Deb, and I don't feel one bit bad for her. 

[Jennifersdc]

23 hours ago, ghoulina said:

Jenelle would totally market a vagina mold.....if anyone would actually buy it. 

UBT (aka current soulmate) would never let her. He thinks she has so many more prospects than TM (giggle).

I would love for them to call Jenelle on her BS too. She’s by far the worst (including Farrah). Maybe MTV is sending a wake-up call to all of them. Are they really starting a third TM? Hopefully realizing current cast is aging out at the very least.

[ginger90]

[GreatKazu]

9 hours ago, druzy said:

Farrah gets angry at a Teen Mom producer over an incident involving Debra.

I am not clear on something. Deb was in the car waiting. Why didn't Deb text Farrah or call her and let her know herself she was already in the car? Why is Farrah mad? Because her mom was kept waiting or because the producers didn't tell her Deb had been in the car? Would Farrah have hurried up if she knew Deb was in the car? I don't get it simply because Farrah doesn't seem she would care if Deb had to wait for her. Now, if it was the other way around...

[FairyDusted]

Farrah sayssssss she would have come right out. Not that I completely believe her. Farrah did seem upset. Well for her. I can't believe I'm behind anything Farrah. There must be a pill for this.

[GreatKazu]

1 hour ago, FairyDusted said:

Farrah sayssssss she would have come right out. Not that I completely believe her. Farrah did seem upset. Well for her. I can't believe I'm behind anything Farrah. There must be a pill for this.

Yeah, I don't believe that Farrah would have come right out either. For Deb??? Nah.

I feel there is more to it and MTV highly edited out the conversation because Farrah is their target. 

[CofCinci]

I wonder if it’s both - she didn’t know she’d be traveling to the party shoot with her monster mother and being upset that said monster had to wait in the car. 

[ginger90]

[mamadrama]

With their creepy house full of weird shit and Debra's antics, I've always pictured Farrah's homelife as something out of Whitefern Manor. (VC Andrews' reference.)

[teapot]

But we can't blame Deb for the fact that Farrah has barely had a single friend over the entire time we've been watching...(pretty sure Paola & Frenchie are on the payroll.)  She had a couple of cheer friends in HS but they didn't seem to care one way or the other whether she was pregnant or not, then we saw her with various hairdressers & whatnot.

Even Jenelle (!!!) has had Tori (!!!) for the duration.

Farrah hasn't even had hangers-on that are willing to deal with her for the "perks"  (and they'd probably get better perks than most, if she's generous...although she probably isn't.)

I don't see Sophia's social life being all that great either, ever...

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

14 hours ago, ginger90 said:

I'm going to go ahead and give Michael props for recognizing and admitting that he "let it (Deb's abuse) happen" to Farrah.  That's the most self-realization and ownership of mistakes I've seen from anyone in this franchise. I'm kind of shocked. 

[GreatKazu]

48 minutes ago, MyPeopleAreNordic said:

I'm going to go ahead and give Michael props for recognizing and admitting that he "let it (Deb's abuse) happen" to Farrah.  That's the most self-realization and ownership of mistakes I've seen from anyone in this franchise. I'm kind of shocked. 

Agree.

Michael has pretty much been honest and owned up to his behavior and all the sins he committed when Farrah was growing up. He admitted to having multiple affairs, not being home when he should have been, and now admitting Farrah was abused and he pretty much allowed it to happen. I get the feeling Deb must have taken out her anger on Farrah for all the hurt Michael was throwing her way. If he wasn't home, Deb abused Farrah. 

6 hours ago, CofCinci said:

I wonder if it’s both - she didn’t know she’d be traveling to the party shoot with her monster mother and being upset that said monster had to wait in the car. 

Probably the fact she was traveling with her mom. That makes more sense than her being upset that her mom had to wait 30 minutes. 

Simon speaks the truth. Again. 

[qtpye]

I just saw an old episode of Dr. Phil with Farrah.  She is very adamant that she is not a porn star and is obviously pretty judgemental about the type of women that gets paid to do sexual things on camera.  Now, I guess she has changed her tune.

I think it will be better for her to be off this show.  I have not watched any of the shows in over 3 seasons and I think the series should be canceled.  Farrah has made good money and should focus on her businesses and her daughter.  She really should be set for life and does not need this stupid shown anymore.  Actually, this whole pathetic trashy series should just die.

[charmed1]

Both Farrah and Jenelle can go and be replaced with Barb. Give both of their checks to her. She’s on a fixed income. I find her life much more relatable and realistic than any of these girls anyway.

[BlancheDevoreaux]

14 minutes ago, charmed1 said:

Both Farrah and Jenelle can go and be replaced with Barb. Give both of their checks to her. She’s on a fixed income. I find her life much more relatable and realistic than any of these girls anyway.

Sounds good to me.  Barb is the one raising Jace, anyway.   You know, I would also love a clip-style show with Barb introducing each clip and then giving her two cents on what was just viewed. I can just imagine her talking about how Ryan is high and Farrah is a whore.

[GreatKazu]

Barb for the win. 

[ghoulina]

YESSSS. I love the idea of an after show with some of the teen parent parents commenting on the show. The problem is - we'd want Barb, Randy, Janet Rivera...and we'd get stuck with Butch and Debz OG. 

[BlancheDevoreaux]

Janet would be excellent at truth telling. Deb would be a trainwreck.  You're right, though.  That is absolutely who we would end up with.