Josh & Anna Smuggar: A Series of Unfortunate Events

[JoanArc]

 

However, this proves that Joshie also has a SEX addiction that needs to be addressed, but won't be.

In my mind sex and porn addiction are synonymous.

 

I'll bet Jim Bob and Michelle really didn't know about this. WHAT A CONDEMNATION of the way they raised their perfect, perfect, perfectly well behaved kids. That kind of revelation is earth shattering. Will be interesting to see how they play it out. They had no time to prepare.

[Fuzzysox]

Yes.  Here's a statement from Josh. I'll pray for Anna. Pray that she leaves his sorry ass.

 

https://www.duggarfamily.com/michelles-blog?ID=651536de-8b7d-4525-afb0-3f525bc390e1

WTF was that? Seems like he is confessing in front of his church. No bub I'm not forgiving you for being a complete idiot!

 

I'm amused and still LMAO that SATAN made him do it.

Edited August 20, 2015 by Fuzzysox

[kokapetl]

He basically only admits to viewing pornography over the internet. Scrambles that into - being unfaithful. He's trying to say he just viewed porn and that was his unfaithfulness. I think he's trying to cover the secret love nest encounters.

Eh, based on what we know about AM, he may not have ever actually found someone to cheat with. The scamminess of the site is what motivated the hackers.

[Defrauder]

I think he is trying to minimize numerous adulterous affairs into just an online porn addiction.  It's nothing really, just mild, just a curious Josh again, he never actually touched anyone, well he did that one time, ok that 5 times.......

[sometimesy]

The ONLY problem with his statement, imo, is that JB and Michelle are involved at ALL. He admitted what he did, how it hurt people, asked for prayers for his wife and children only. I am choosing to believe he has hit bottom. I really want to see his story of redemption. He needs to get into real counselling solo and with Anna. Everything is exposed, it's done. Kudos to the PR person that came up with that statement. Sure he 'buried' some of the impact bits, but that is what PR is for.  As a side note, Josh is the only Duggar who was able to keep his mouth shut the last few months.

 

Pay attention Jessa. You are setting yourself up on a lofty perch.

[poopchute]

I don't know about anyone else here but if my husband spent close to a thousand dollars trying to cheat on me but didn't actually do it, I would still think he was a scumbag piece of shit and his belongings would be on the lawn by sundown.

[wirebitersm]

I have no idea if he has actually had sex with anyone else. I have known several christians who thought just looking at porn is cheating. I know growing up, even thinking about commiting a sin was a sin.

[NEGirl]

WOW!!!   I am beyond shocked he admitted everything. I never expected it. Poor Anna and those beautiful babies. What a scumbag. Wonder what all the leg humpers think now - lets see them defend this.

Just my guess, but based on his statement there is more to come out.

[JennyMominFL]

I give it 2 years before he is on the Christian circuit talking about how Jesus cured him of his problems and helped him become a godly man again.. The healing power of Jesus blah blah blah

[natyxg]

Josh knows he's in Deep Shit, Arkansas. I would bet $1000 this isn't the end of it. Better to admit it all now and lay low until the excitement dies down. Then he can start rebuilding himself as the reformed sinner who's finally seen the light (again). It's probably the only chance he has to salvage some kind of life out of all this

 

Yes, and talk about porn like some powerful demon who stole his will, and blame it all on that. As if he wasn't the one turning on the computer himself.

[Wishing Well]

But is this like Swiss banking? I'd assume that in America a wife can get access to her husbands records via the courts. Am I wrong to assume this? (I'm not American).

Court order only. The lawyer or whatever would have to get a subpoena, contact bank legal, who would contact the branch (me) and I would send the requested docs back to legal. THEN, that is when they can be looked at.

[natyxg]

Eh, based on what we know about AM, he may not have ever actually found someone to cheat with. The scamminess of the site is what motivated the hackers.

 

Yeah, I doubt he got any online. AM sounds very dodgy and I don't think he was smooth enough to reel women in online. But I wouldn't rule out an old fashioned infidelity with no internet involved, frankly.

[Ljohnson1987]

He only admitted it, because he got caught.

[Defrauder]

Fortunately for him he's in no need of my forgiveness because he didn't hurt me since I saw what a hypocrite he and his cult have always been.  The adultery he committed was no offense to me it only proved what I thought of him and his cult to begin with.

[Sew Sumi]

JoanArc, I've followed fundies long enough to know that they have an obsession with viewing porn on the internet as sin, and actual sexual sins are a separate category. They are BIG on 86ing porn addiction. Like I said, they made a whole movie about that (Fireproof). A movie that Josh and Anna saw while they were courting. How...ironic. 

 

Joshie admitting to being unfaithful can be anything from "lusting in his heart" to a full-out affair. They were careful not to use the A word in his statement. 

 

Poor, poor humiliated Anna. 

[Fuzzysox]

Too bad Dana Carvey isn't doing The Church Lady anymore. Can you imagine the hilarity he would bring to Josh's admission of his "porn addiction."

 

On another note the only way will will ever see Smugs again in tv is if Dr. Drew casts him on one of his addiction shows and if some soontobefamewhore claims she is pregnant with his baby--than we will see him on Maury!! I want good seats if that ever happens. lol

Edited August 20, 2015 by Fuzzysox

[Defrauder]

JB and Mechelles hearts are broken because he got caught.  I just don't believe they didn't know something....until late last night.   Josh stopped the account apparently in May when he probably 'confessed' yet again to JB and Michelle who probably told him to cancel the account. They may have known long before that even.  They like to Keep the Silence.

[neural-plasticity]

Honestly, I can't help but feel sick to my stomach about this. Not because Josh is finally getting what he deserved (in my opinion, at least), but because Anna. The whole molestation thing was difficult enough for her, and I really do admire her for sticking by his side (even though I do agree she's a bit naive for doing so). I think if she really did know about what happened before they got married and understands that she made a commitment to him with that in mind, then good for her to sticking to that commitment. Even if she didn't know about it to the full extent, what are you supposed to do when you're madly in love with someone and eight months pregnant?

However, this, in my opinion, is such a huge blow to HER. His previous choices, although I do not agree with at all (like anyone would) happened before he knew her. The decisions he made with these websites directly says how much he disrespects her (and women in general, I think). I couldn't imagine staying with my husband if he did something like that, especially if we had such strong convictions that these Duggars do (i.e., being so against gay marriage because it's "ruining the idea of what a family is").

When I first found out about this new scandal, I thought Dear Lord, she's going to stay with him. She really is going to just stay with him. But then I realized while reading all of your comments (and I'm still a couple pages back, so this was probably already said today), she has a sister that got out of this cult. I really truly believe there's hope for her to possibly get out. I think it's still a long stretch because being divorced in this religion is probably the worst thing you can be (because they're obviously not too bothered by molestation and other sexual scandals), but I really, truly hope that her sister reaches out to her during this time to help encourage her if need be. At the same time, if Anna wants to stay, that's her business, not mine. I just have hope in knowing there's someone who can genuinely help her get out now if she really wanted to. She wouldn't be on her own to discover a world outside the one she's lived in.

Last but not least - I'm putting money on Mackynzie being the one who writes a tell-all some day. We're obviously going to have to wait a long time for the bad boy to come out, but I can definitely see her reminiscing on her "early days as a Duggar."

Edited August 22, 2015 by neural-plasticity

[Julia]

Like I said, they made a whole movie about that (Fireproof). A movie that Josh and Anna saw while they were courting. 

 

Courting couples are not allowed to hold hands while they're praying, but they are allowed to see movies about porn and talk to their future in laws about boning each other?

Edited August 20, 2015 by Julia

[tobysmom]

so he confesses to viewing porn on the internet?  Can you view porn on the Ashley Madison or OKCupid website???

 

And did the Duggars block comments on there page?  I'm surprised to not see any comments.

[kokapetl]

so he confesses to viewing porn on the internet? Can you view porn on the Ashley Madison or OKCupid website???

And did the Duggars block comments on there page? I'm surprised to not see any comments.

Gawker mentions $250 buys 1000 credits. Bet the credits were used to access profile pictures that are really just porn.

[3 is enough]

The link is not working for me.  Says the page has been taken down.

[Ljohnson1987]

They can hold hands, if they choose to. Anna and Smugs had many hand sex sessions.

[Flowers]

It's a pretty impressive mea culpa. It was surely written FOR him, though.

[JoanArc]

 

JoanArc, I've followed fundies long enough to know that they have an obsession with viewing porn on the internet as sin, and actual sexual sins are a separate category.

Oh, I understand that. They also seem to blow porn use WAY out of proportion. A happily married man in his 30's that admits masturbating to Playboy a few times when he was 16 is THE WORST PORN ADDICT EVER.

 

 

They were careful not to use the A word in his statement.

Nothing would surprise me at this point. Even Josh paying for the other A word, too.

[wovenloaf]

I give it 2 years before he is on the Christian circuit talking about how Jesus cured him of his problems and helped him become a godly man again.. The healing power of Jesus blah blah blah

I think he's already blown it. If he was some guy who started the preaching/speaking about his "reformation" after he was already reformed, then I think people would care what he has to say. But he would be saying the same exact things as he was saying while he was actually in the reform-needing-behavior, so I don't think people (save a couple cronies who do the same lurky, nasty stuff) will care/want to push what he has to say. And he already pulled the "I got reformed when I was 16!!!" card, then it came out he obviously wasn't "reformed." 

[Gbb]

The link is not working for me. Says the page has been taken down.

The permalink doesn't work. This one does: https://www.duggarfamily.com/michelles-blog?ID=651536de-8b7d-4525-afb0-3f525bc390e1

Edited August 20, 2015 by Gbb

[Defrauder]

Maybe it's just me but I'm not impressed with his apology at all.  It started out alright then just went in to the usual minimizing his personal failings.  Sorry but years of lies and deceit in action make me not believe a 3 paragraph letter - written by a liar. Funny how he didn't write it before he got caught. Now suddenly he is humble in 12 hours.  Bullshit on that one.

[JoanArc]

They took out Satan! There's always room for Satan in your heart!

 

 

Edited August 20, 2015 by JoanArc

[truthtalk2014]

I'm just sorry for the poor woman sitting with the footlong and jello.  No way in hell she got to finish it before this story broke! ;)

[NextIteration]

I called it earlier, King of FAP!

[sometimesy]

They cast out Satan!

[Sew Sumi]

Courting couples are not allowed to hold hands while they're praying, but they are allowed to see movies about porn and talk to their future in laws about boning each other?

Hell, the LITTLE Duggars all saw Fireproof at the San Antionio Film Festival that Doug Phillips, formerly of Vision Forum fame, used to put on. 

 

These people's priorities are mega screwed up. 

[hendersonrocks]

It is fascinating to me that they took Satan and his fortress out. Why? What changed between when they first posted it and now? They have to be smart enough to realize people are now going to pounce on this on top of everything else. It's really unfortunate no respectable PR person will go within 50 miles of them...they could use it right now.

[yogi2014L]

If Josh has any shred of decency he will divorce Anna but continue to financially support her and the kids forever.

 

THIS is why I have such a intense hatred for this cult. Anna. She's done everything she was told to, what she thought " god" wanted and now look at her. 26, Undereducated, 4 kids, no job history to speak of and a unfaithful husband who very well might just say fuck it and leave

 

Really REALLY hope the Jslaves are thinking long and hard about Anna and her predicament.

[sandyskyblue]

Last sentence in Josh's statement just floored me: 'please pray for my precious wife Anna and our family'  Hey, Josh: WTF???  You mean the  'precious wife' you humiliated and cheated on??  THAT 'precious wife'???  How 'precious' was she when you were cheating, lying, leading a double life, answering all those questions on the AM form, paying for the AM membership, etc, etc???

[Oldernowiser]

So...the Duggar Era finally ends on August 20, 2015. If you're quiet, you can hear the empire walls tumbling down.

Only question remaining...is the official time of death the first announcement or the second?

[Missy Vixen]

Ladies and gentlemen, I don't think this is all. I think there's more. And I have to admit waiting for the revelations like a kid waits for Christmas morning.

 

And I knew the minute I saw that GIGANTIC TV in their bedroom Smuggar was not watching Andy Griffith on it...

 

Poor Anna.

[sometimesy]

Back to the flip phone for you Josh. Jebus, this probably just set the 'internet freedom of information regulations' in that house back even further. Hope they like colouring.

[KittyS]

I really feel sorry for Anna. Either the brainwashing is complete and she still wants to be married to Josh (a child-molesting, "porn-addicted," adulterous, jobless LIAR) or she wants out and is stuck with four young children, no marketable skills, and no support from family or friends in her religion. No way does she deserve this.

[kathe5133]

On Fox news mewing about how “the girls were asleep”, “the girls didn’t know”.  How could they be so fundamentally fucked up to think few weeks building stuff would knock the pervert out of him?  And now look what he has gone and done!  I don’t think we’ve heard the “addict” claims yet, but Dr. Drew could be weighing in soon and playing the “addict card” may be the only way for them to continue to earn a living.

[Magoo]

I take Josh's public, regret-filled, sorrowful, shamed confession with a giant grain of salt and major side-eye.  There is no way he, graduate of the SOTDT, could craft such a polished and "honest" statement.  So my question is, does he even believe he did anything wrong and truly feels shame over his actions?  Or just shocked that he got caught.  I doubt for one second he understands what the word "hypocrisy" even means.  What frustrates me the most is that none of these Josh-centric scandals will  do one thing to change his ugly views. In his mind, one has nothing to do with the other.  That's a real shame.

Edited August 20, 2015 by Magoo

[JoanArc]

Anyone think there's 7 figures in a Josh interview now? If he's at rock bottom he'll still want a paycheck.

[Jamiesmum]

He only admitted it, because he got caught.

Well, yes. No use admitting anything that's not already out there. That would just confuse everyone.

Now would be great time for Anna to take the Ms for a loooong visit with her parents. And a good time to do it. Starting to get cold in AR, while the weather will still be warm in FL. She can properly recover from childbirth. As no details were given out at the time, some problems may now be surfacing. Nothing horrible. She just needs rest. The visit could then streeeeetch out as long as she wants. And while she is there, start to live her own life with the kids. Just a thought. At least it would give her time and space, something she doesn't get in AR.

[cheatincheetos]

Lydia Madison. Dainty Mary-Kate & Ashley Jewell.

Oliver Klosoff.

[Ilovemylabs]

JB and Mechelles hearts are broken because he got caught.  I just don't believe they didn't know something....until late last night.   Josh stopped the account apparently in May when he probably 'confessed' yet again to JB and Michelle who probably told him to cancel the account. They may have known long before that even.  They like to Keep the Silence.

I disagree.  I think this was news to them and a terrible shock.  Having had a child who has made some SERIOUS mistakes during his life, every time I learned of something new he had done wrong it was a punch in the gut.  I was almost numb with shock and I believe JB and Michelle feel the same way.  Nevertheless, I still love my child.  He has made some progress, but is far from perfect.  But I do believe in redemption.  Another close family member is a member of AA.  It was a struggle for him, but he is now a financial success and a good husband and a good person.   He still attends meetings and will continue to do so.  But he has turned his life around and so I believe that others can do the same. 

[sometimesy]

Stupid quote function.

 

Josh can change his views, it looks like he didn't buy into them anyway. He can leave the compound and he can sell his story for cold hard cash. BUT, he has to be careful regarding the 'inappropriate touching'. That one is still facing a lawsuit if I'm not mistaken

[sr7698]

Shit just got real.  This is depressing, Josh asked for prayers, here are mine:

 

1. I pray for Anna.  I pray that Anna finds the strength she needs to deal with the reality that is her husband and their marriage.  I pray that she has the courage to make the best decision for herself and her children when determining whether she wants to stay married to Josh.  I pray that she finds real, non-Gothard support in assessing what her future will be.  I pray that she realizes that she can be a strong and vocal advocate for her children and herself in determining that future. I pray that she doesn't blame herself for any of this.

 

2. I pray for their children.  I pray they don't grow up in the isolated environment of their parents.  I pray that they know that God spends more of his time loving them, not judging them. 

 

3. I pray for Josh.  I pray that he gets the help he so desperately needs.  I pray that he finds peace.  I pray that he accepts whatever the future may bring. 

 

 

[kokapetl]

I take Josh's public, regret-filled, sorrowful, shamed confession with a giant grain of salt and major side-eye. There is no way he, graduate of the SOTDT, could craft such a polished and "honest" statement. So my question is, does he even believe he did anything wrong and truly feels shame over his actions? Or just shocked that he got caught. I doubt for one second he understands what the word "hypocrisy" even means. What frustrates me the most is that none of these Josh-centric scandals will do one thing to change his ugly views. In his mind, one has nothing to do with the other. That's a real shame.

He's got no reason to lie anymore. I can't imagine he thinks he has a future.

[Isthisok]

I think we may have found Bristol Palin's baby daddy!