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Yes.  Here's a statement from Josh. I'll pray for Anna. Pray that she leaves his sorry ass.

 

https://www.duggarfamily.com/michelles-blog?ID=651536de-8b7d-4525-afb0-3f525bc390e1

Is that the official Duggar page?   Just asking, cause I have never been to any of their media sites.

 

 If it is their site, then Josh is gonna end up in the wood chipper.   JIm Bob at dinner will say, hey guys, its tater tot casserole with a new ground meat. We had so much there is enough for everyone.  Dig in !

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Wait wait wait....paying $1K for two separate Ashley Madison accounts held for over two years, plus an OKcupid profile, all of which solicit sex from women, and possibly having the extramarital affairs and/or sexual encounters sought through these profiles, is now reduced to "viewing pornography over the internet"?

 

He adds this too

 

I became unfaithful to my wife.

 

 

which I think is admission that he did have sex with someone else (presumably via the AM site), but he's trying to bury it within the statement & use the pornography addiction as an excuse/distraction.

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Yes.  Here's a statement from Josh. I'll pray for Anna. Pray that she leaves his sorry ass.

 

https://www.duggarfamily.com/michelles-blog?ID=651536de-8b7d-4525-afb0-3f525bc390e1

Well, that's a lot more mea culpa than I was expecting. Guess there wasn't much he could do, but I still expected some form of weaseling. Maybe Josh decided that it's all over and he just doesn't give a fuck anymore. 

 

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but he's trying to bury it within the statement & use the pornography addiction as an excuse/distraction.

True, upon rereading, he did bury the lede a bit. Still wasn't expecting such explicit acknowledgment of his blatant hypocrisy, though! 

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I'd like to thank the Mods for their hard work on the forum here.  Any mod that feels hungry later can come over tonight and have some of the pork roast in the crock pot I got going for dinner.  I'll make a cake too.  

So he admits infidelity eh?  I wonder if that was full blown horizontal bopping or just thinking about it. And ewwwww.....   

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Well, that's a lot more mea culpa than I was expecting. Guess there wasn't much he could do, but I still expected some form of weaseling. Maybe Josh decided that it's all over and he just doesn't give a fuck anymore.

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True, upon rereading, he did bury the lede a bit. Still wasn't expecting such explicit acknowledgment of his blatant hypocrisy, though!

He should remove himself from his family who are rightfully pissed at him, for a couple of months.

"Most of all Jesus"? Jesus literally has godlike powers. Least of all Jesus.

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Well, that's a lot more mea culpa than I was expecting. Guess there wasn't much he could do, but I still expected some form of weaseling. Maybe Josh decided that it's all over and he just doesn't give a fuck anymore. 

 

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True, upon rereading, he did bury the lede a bit. Still wasn't expecting such explicit acknowledgment of his blatant hypocrisy, though! 

 

It's vague enough that whatever other shoes drop, he can say he already came clean about them. I doubt he wrote it himself.

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Copied over---

Statements From Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar and Josh Duggar

August 20, 2015

Statement from Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar:

Please see the statement below from our son Josh regarding recent media stories about him. When we learned of this late last night our hearts were broken. As we continue to place our trust in God we ask for your prayers for Josh, Anna, our grandchildren and our entire family.

Statement from Josh Duggar:

I have been the biggest hypocrite ever. While espousing faith and family values, I have secretly over the last several years been viewing pornography on the internet and this became a secret addiction and I became unfaithful to my wife.

I am so ashamed of the double life that I have been living and am grieved for the hurt, pain and disgrace my sin has caused my wife and family, and most of all Jesus and all those who profess faith in Him.

I brought hurt and a reproach to my family, close friends and the fans of our show with my actions that happened when I was 14-15 years old, and now I have re-broken their trust.

The last few years, while publicly stating I was fighting against immorality in our country, in my heart I had allowed Satan to build a fortress that no one knew about.

As I am learning the hard way, we have the freedom to choose to our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences. I deeply regret all hurt I have caused so many by being such a bad example.

I humbly ask for your forgiveness. Please pray for my precious wife Anna and our family during this time.

Josh Duggar

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OK he admits to being the biggest hypocrite ever.  Viewing pornography over the internet. Addiction to porn. Double life. He then 'humbly' asks for forgiveness.  There's nothing humble about him.  JB & Chelle claim to have 'found out about this late last night'.  I don't believe them. We all knew before them? Same old song and dance.  

 

One doesn't turn humble in the space of 12 hours.  Years being a hypocrite and 12 hours to suddenly become humble? Excuse me for not believing that.

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I wonder if he equates porn addiction and AM sign up to being "unfaithful to my wife"? In their world, it might not be actual adulterous seckshul relations that made him "unfaithful."

Well, let's be real, considering what a scam AM is, Josh probably didn't have the opportunity to have actual adulterous seckshul relations! 

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I had been meaning to post here to say that I bet the next leak would be his online porn usage, and lo and behold he outed himself. It's not surprising, I guess. He's a young man with a repressed childhood that later found himself head of a household and able to do whatever he wanted, and surrounded by the mainstream society full of us heathens and sexy commercials on tv and shit. So it was pretty much to be expected and oh so cliché.

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So he admitted it. I am a bit surprised at how early the statement has been made. In my suspicious mind, it makes me wonder if he is admitting to this because there is more stuff out there, or he has just given up lying and hiding stuff.

I have been reading some former fundies blogs and stories. The kids who have been brought up so isolated and brain washed have no idea of what is appropriate in real life. Many of them even way into adulthood. Not excusing Josh in any way. He was away from JB &M when the did this crap, and he knows he was doing the dirty. But the fundie rules are so outrageous, making decent decisions and doing normal things is still a struggle for many. Yeah, patriarchy will draw his umbrella group in real tight and close now, when that all should be running as fast as they can away. Golden boy who had ALL the privileges and ALL the forgiveness fucks up again, this way of living is NOT working.

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Still, poor Anna, specially because I doubt she will leave him and will keep popping out kids for this guy. I doubt their life together will keep getting better after this, if only it will be the opposite.

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I'm waiting for the porn addiction to come out. Seriously.

You called it! I knew they'd go with the plot device from Fireproof! 

 

However, this proves that Joshie also has a SEX addiction that needs to be addressed, but won't be. Fundies are hung up on porn, and they'll stop there. Josh will never get the real help he needs. 

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He basically only admits to viewing pornography over the internet.  Scrambles that into - being unfaithful.  He's trying to say he just viewed porn and that was his unfaithfulness.  I think he's trying to cover the secret love nest encounters.

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Josh knows he's in Deep Shit, Arkansas. I would bet $1000 this isn't the end of it. Better to admit it all now and lay low until the excitement dies down. Then he can start rebuilding himself as the reformed sinner who's finally seen the light (again). It's probably the only chance he has to salvage some kind of life out of all this.

 

The conspicuously short statement from JB & M says it all -- they're DONE with him. 

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However, this proves that Joshie also has a SEX addiction that needs to be addressed, but won't be.

In my mind sex and porn addiction are synonymous.

 

I'll bet Jim Bob and Michelle really didn't know about this. WHAT A CONDEMNATION of the way they raised their perfect, perfect, perfectly well behaved kids. That kind of revelation is earth shattering. Will be interesting to see how they play it out. They had no time to prepare.

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He basically only admits to viewing pornography over the internet. Scrambles that into - being unfaithful. He's trying to say he just viewed porn and that was his unfaithfulness. I think he's trying to cover the secret love nest encounters.

Eh, based on what we know about AM, he may not have ever actually found someone to cheat with. The scamminess of the site is what motivated the hackers.
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I think he is trying to minimize numerous adulterous affairs into just an online porn addiction.  It's nothing really, just mild, just a curious Josh again, he never actually touched anyone, well he did that one time, ok that 5 times.......

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The ONLY problem with his statement, imo, is that JB and Michelle are involved at ALL. He admitted what he did, how it hurt people, asked for prayers for his wife and children only. I am choosing to believe he has hit bottom. I really want to see his story of redemption. He needs to get into real counselling solo and with Anna. Everything is exposed, it's done. Kudos to the PR person that came up with that statement. Sure he 'buried' some of the impact bits, but that is what PR is for.  As a side note, Josh is the only Duggar who was able to keep his mouth shut the last few months.

 

Pay attention Jessa. You are setting yourself up on a lofty perch.

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WOW!!!   I am beyond shocked he admitted everything. I never expected it. Poor Anna and those beautiful babies. What a scumbag. Wonder what all the leg humpers think now - lets see them defend this.

Just my guess, but based on his statement there is more to come out.

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Josh knows he's in Deep Shit, Arkansas. I would bet $1000 this isn't the end of it. Better to admit it all now and lay low until the excitement dies down. Then he can start rebuilding himself as the reformed sinner who's finally seen the light (again). It's probably the only chance he has to salvage some kind of life out of all this

 

Yes, and talk about porn like some powerful demon who stole his will, and blame it all on that. As if he wasn't the one turning on the computer himself.

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But is this like Swiss banking? I'd assume that in America a wife can get access to her husbands records via the courts. Am I wrong to assume this? (I'm not American).

Court order only. The lawyer or whatever would have to get a subpoena, contact bank legal, who would contact the branch (me) and I would send the requested docs back to legal. THEN, that is when they can be looked at.

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Eh, based on what we know about AM, he may not have ever actually found someone to cheat with. The scamminess of the site is what motivated the hackers.

 

Yeah, I doubt he got any online. AM sounds very dodgy and I don't think he was smooth enough to reel women in online. But I wouldn't rule out an old fashioned infidelity with no internet involved, frankly.

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Fortunately for him he's in no need of my forgiveness because he didn't hurt me since I saw what a hypocrite he and his cult have always been.  The adultery he committed was no offense to me it only proved what I thought of him and his cult to begin with.

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JoanArc, I've followed fundies long enough to know that they have an obsession with viewing porn on the internet as sin, and actual sexual sins are a separate category. They are BIG on 86ing porn addiction. Like I said, they made a whole movie about that (Fireproof). A movie that Josh and Anna saw while they were courting. How...ironic. 

 

Joshie admitting to being unfaithful can be anything from "lusting in his heart" to a full-out affair. They were careful not to use the A word in his statement. 

 

Poor, poor humiliated Anna. 

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Too bad Dana Carvey isn't doing The Church Lady anymore. Can you imagine the hilarity he would bring to Josh's admission of his "porn addiction."

 

On another note the only way will will ever see Smugs again in tv is if Dr. Drew casts him on one of his addiction shows and if some soontobefamewhore claims she is pregnant with his baby--than we will see him on Maury!! I want good seats if that ever happens. lol

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JB and Mechelles hearts are broken because he got caught.  I just don't believe they didn't know something....until late last night.   Josh stopped the account apparently in May when he probably 'confessed' yet again to JB and Michelle who probably told him to cancel the account. They may have known long before that even.  They like to Keep the Silence.

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Honestly, I can't help but feel sick to my stomach about this. Not because Josh is finally getting what he deserved (in my opinion, at least), but because Anna. The whole molestation thing was difficult enough for her, and I really do admire her for sticking by his side (even though I do agree she's a bit naive for doing so). I think if she really did know about what happened before they got married and understands that she made a commitment to him with that in mind, then good for her to sticking to that commitment. Even if she didn't know about it to the full extent, what are you supposed to do when you're madly in love with someone and eight months pregnant?

However, this, in my opinion, is such a huge blow to HER. His previous choices, although I do not agree with at all (like anyone would) happened before he knew her. The decisions he made with these websites directly says how much he disrespects her (and women in general, I think). I couldn't imagine staying with my husband if he did something like that, especially if we had such strong convictions that these Duggars do (i.e., being so against gay marriage because it's "ruining the idea of what a family is").

When I first found out about this new scandal, I thought Dear Lord, she's going to stay with him. She really is going to just stay with him. But then I realized while reading all of your comments (and I'm still a couple pages back, so this was probably already said today), she has a sister that got out of this cult. I really truly believe there's hope for her to possibly get out. I think it's still a long stretch because being divorced in this religion is probably the worst thing you can be (because they're obviously not too bothered by molestation and other sexual scandals), but I really, truly hope that her sister reaches out to her during this time to help encourage her if need be. At the same time, if Anna wants to stay, that's her business, not mine. I just have hope in knowing there's someone who can genuinely help her get out now if she really wanted to. She wouldn't be on her own to discover a world outside the one she's lived in.

Last but not least - I'm putting money on Mackynzie being the one who writes a tell-all some day. We're obviously going to have to wait a long time for the bad boy to come out, but I can definitely see her reminiscing on her "early days as a Duggar."

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Like I said, they made a whole movie about that (Fireproof). A movie that Josh and Anna saw while they were courting. 

 

Courting couples are not allowed to hold hands while they're praying, but they are allowed to see movies about porn and talk to their future in laws about boning each other?

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so he confesses to viewing porn on the internet?  Can you view porn on the Ashley Madison or OKCupid website???

 

And did the Duggars block comments on there page?  I'm surprised to not see any comments.

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so he confesses to viewing porn on the internet? Can you view porn on the Ashley Madison or OKCupid website???

And did the Duggars block comments on there page? I'm surprised to not see any comments.

Gawker mentions $250 buys 1000 credits. Bet the credits were used to access profile pictures that are really just porn.
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