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As a reminder, the site's Politics Policy remains in effect.  Yes, Jim Bob is apparently running for office again. That does not make it an acceptable topic of conversation in here - unless for some mysterious reason, TLC brings the show back and it is discussed on there. Even then, it would be limited to how it was discussed on the show.

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cmr2014
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I was thinking about this and the idea that the girls weren't "harmed" and weren't "damaged goods" which led me to realize that ALL of the Duggar children are "damaged goods" and I think that's becomi

Churchhoney
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They put themselves on tv and have proclaimed over and over and over and over again that their way of life is the way to ensure that your children are totally safe from every evil of the world, and in

WhitneyWhit
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I don't know where to post this but I fucking met Michelle Duggar. Let me set the scene. So my cousin is getting married and we were at a shop looking at dresses here in Kentucky when the Duggars marc

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awaken

awaken

From what they described their “crises of faith” were just regular teenage angst. 
 

kendra does look exhausted. 
 

Michelle’s brightly glowing face was just bizarre. 

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madpsych78

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Michelle's face is the color of a bright copper penny.

It seemed like a lot of people were over-featured while many others were missing. It seemed like it was the Boobchelle Jessa Show with a little bit of Kendra thrown in. 

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Churchhoney

Churchhoney

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11 hours ago, madpsych78 said:

Michelle's face is the color of a bright copper penny.

It seemed like a lot of people were over-featured while many others were missing. It seemed like it was the Boobchelle Jessa Show with a little bit of Kendra thrown in. 

So do Boobchelle get the same cut of an overall pot of money that every other featured couple/player gets?

Or do they still collect the whole basket and divvy it out as their great wisdom dictates? Or rate a bigger cut because they're older and had the forethought to produce NINETEEN KIDS!?   

I sure hope it's the first option. But I have kind of a hard time seeing Boobchelle sitting still for that......although TLC may simply have given them no choice. 

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doodlebug

doodlebug

37 minutes ago, Churchhoney said:

So do Boobchelle get the same cut of an overall pot of money that every other featured couple/player gets.

Or do they still collect the whole basket and divvy it out as their great wisdom dictates? Or rate a bigger cut because they're older and had the forethought to produce NINETEEN KIDS!    

I sure hope it's the first option. But I have kind of a hard time seeing Boobchelle sitting still for that......although TLC may simply have given them no choice. 

 I think we all know the answer is that JB still controls every dime of TV money.  And, I am sure he pays himself a handsome salary for it, too.   Otherwise, the other kids, the ones who were assaulted by their eldest brother, might not feel so kindly about giving Josh a cut for a show from which he is banned.

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Churchhoney

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1 hour ago, doodlebug said:

 I think we all know the answer is that JB still controls every dime of TV money.  And, I am sure he pays himself a handsome salary for it, too.   Otherwise, the other kids, the ones who were assaulted by their eldest brother, might not feel so kindly about giving Josh a cut for a show from which he is banned.

Well, I always say the kids are brainwashed. And a lot of people object to that formulation.

But as far as I can see, anybody who wasn't brainwashed and then repeatedly bribed and bullied to stick with the program would band together and raise hell about this kind of thing. 

Also in my opinion, in our time it's literally a crime against humanity to do everything in your power to deprive your offspring of full autonomy. And to my eyes, that's what JBoob and Meeechelle continue to do with virtually every breath they take.

I've never seen one thing -- either a negative thing or an ostensibly positive thing -- they've done to or for or in any way connected to their kids that hasn't been intended to keep them all from being fully autonomous forever. I don't see how anyone who actually looks at their crappy lives can consider this behavior forgivable, honestly. 

 

 

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Albanyguy

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5 hours ago, doodlebug said:

 I think we all know the answer is that JB still controls every dime of TV money.  And, I am sure he pays himself a handsome salary for it, too.

And I'll bet every time he gives the kids their money he deducts a hefty management fee à la Kris Kardashian.

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cmr2014

cmr2014

48 minutes ago, Albanyguy said:

And I'll bet every time he gives the kids their money he deducts a hefty management fee à la Kris Kardashian.

I think you're mistaken here. JB doesn't give them "their money," and take out a fee. ALL of the money is JB's money and he gives them what he chooses based on the "work" that they do for him, and their obedience.

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GeeGolly

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I don't think Counting On is canceled. TLC still has them front and center on their website and recently filmed that small clip of Jinger and Jeremy with the girls. Maybe they've been reduced to just one summer run a year. 

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LilJen

LilJen

On 3/30/2021 at 5:14 PM, Natalie68 said:

They all looked gray and greasy.  Except for Michelle who used all the blush and highlighter to be had.  She looked greasy, blushed and highlighted.

spray tan. i call spray tan for Meeeeechelle. She looked absurdly bronze.

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LexieLily

LexieLily

Just now, emmawoodhouse said:

The show isn't going to last forever. Gotta cut the cord sooner or later.

Just the idea that they would need to get a steady job would do wonders for some of them.

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iwantcookies

iwantcookies

11 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

Just the idea that they would need to get a steady job would do wonders for some of them.

Duggar 19: you mean I got to get up at 5 am to go to work? Like 5 days a week ? Like no way Jose.

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cmr2014

cmr2014

Just now, iwantcookies said:

Duggar 19: you mean I got to get up at 5 am to go to work? Like 5 days a week ? Like no way Jose.

I think you're right.

I don't think they'd get jobs, I think they would continue down their current path of "house flipping" and "real estate agents" and "car dealers" for quite a while. I just don't think it would even occur to them to get jobs -- no matter how dire it got.

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awaken

awaken

56 minutes ago, cmr2014 said:

I think you're right.

I don't think they'd get jobs, I think they would continue down their current path of "house flipping" and "real estate agents" and "car dealers" for quite a while. I just don't think it would even occur to them to get jobs -- no matter how dire it got.

I don’t think it’s even in their frame of reference to work a real, scheduled job. 

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Lurk

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I saw something that said Josh was tied somehow to a business that was being investigated by the Feds. It didn't specify what/who, etc. If any other Duggars are connected, it might affect the show.

I do remember that after the Josh molestation scandal when they canceled 19 Kids and came out with "Jill and Jessa: Counting On", the show was centered on Jill and Jessa and their new marriages. and how they were coping/moving on. JBoob and Mechelle were not to be a part of it because of how they did or did not handle the situation with Josh.  IIRC, JBoob was none too happy about losing that control. Josh and Anna were not to be a part of it because of the obvious. After the first season when the dropped the "Jill and Jessa" part, it seems as others have gotten married and everyone is starting to pop out babies like  Pez dispensers, it's morphed back into something with everyone back in on it except for Josh.

What could they come up with next? "I Demand a ReCounting?"

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Zella

Zella

7 minutes ago, Lurk said:

I saw something that said Josh was tied somehow to a business that was being investigated by the Feds. It didn't specify what/who, etc

Yeah the Duggar car lot was raided by Department of Homeland Security in November 2019. A lot of us are thinking that Josh's arrest today is connected to that investigation, but we won't know until charges are released tomorrow. 

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Lurk

Lurk

4 minutes ago, Zella said:

Yeah the Duggar car lot was raided by Department of Homeland Security in November 2019. A lot of us are thinking that Josh's arrest today is connected to that investigation, but we won't know until charges are released tomorrow. 

Oh yeah....Thanks. I realized after posting I should have checked the Smugger thread. Catching up reading on that one now.

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Zella

Zella

2 minutes ago, Lurk said:

Oh yeah....Thanks. I realized after posting I should have checked the Smugger thread. Catching up reading on that one now.

It's been a crazy thread today! 

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Temperance

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6 hours ago, anna0852 said:

Josh got arrested today by federal marshals on behalf of DHS. So....

Technically we know he was arrested by the US Marshalls, but not on behalf of which organization. It could be the DHS and could not be. The sources on this are iffy, but we'll know tomorrow. 

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Zella

Zella

11 minutes ago, Temperance said:

Technically we know he was arrested by the US Marshalls, but not on behalf of which organization. It could be the DHS and could not be. The sources on this are iffy, but we'll know tomorrow. 

FWIW, when Buzzfeed reached out to the FBI for comment, they specifically said they were not involved, so we can probably scratch them off the list of potential federal agencies involved.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/salvadorhernandez/josh-duggar-arrest-federal-arkansas?origin=web-hf

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MissT

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The Dugger's are done!   This just killed the show (which I haven't watched or cared about in years).   I think advertisers, book deals, speaking engagements will all be canceled across the board.  They better all look for real jobs.    I don't feel sorry for any of them (except all the minor children).  These holy-rollers thought God would save them, but they got too greedy.    

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JoanArc

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"TLC is saddened to learn about the continued troubles involving Josh Duggar," the network said in a statement to PEOPLE on Friday. "19 Kids and Counting has not aired since 2015. TLC cancelled the show on the heels of prior allegations against Josh Duggar and he has not appeared on-air since then."

Ugh. There’s no way for them to come back from this. Unless TLC wants to normalize child abuse. I wouldn’t put that past them.

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Minivanessa

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2 minutes ago, JoanArc said:
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"TLC is saddened to learn about the continued troubles involving Josh Duggar," the network said in a statement to PEOPLE on Friday. "19 Kids and Counting has not aired since 2015. TLC cancelled the show on the heels of prior allegations against Josh Duggar and he has not appeared on-air since then."

Ugh. There’s no way for them to come back from this. Unless TLC wants to normalize child abuse. I wouldn’t put that past them.

 Oh Lord. Fuck you, TLC. "Hey, we haven't shown that guy on the show since 2015. We're all good here. Nothing to do with us, nothing to see here, just move along."

So it seems that even this won't break up the sweet sweet relationship between JB and TLC and the TV money will keep flowing into JB's coffers. 

What a world.

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Oldernowiser

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4 minutes ago, JoanArc said:

Ugh. There’s no way for them to come back from this. Unless TLC wants to normalize child abuse. I wouldn’t put that past them.

So…that’s probably how they’re going to play this, publicly. Disavow Josh and carry on as usual. 🤮 The question then becomes what they do about JB and Michelle, who were slithering back onto the show on the regular.

They definitely have JB by the throat now as far as any contract negotiations go. It would be karma if the Duggar Counting siblings hired Derrick as their agent and he got them paid directly and bypassed IronThumb JB. 

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BitterApple

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If TLC doesn't cancel, they're truly the scum of the Earth. Let's say for shits and giggles, the DHS raid was always solely about the CP and not financial crimes. That means since 2019:

The Duggars knew Josh was downloading child porn. They continued to socialize with Josh. 

Boob helped Josh and Anna shuffle assets to avoid future seizure. 

Josh was allowed to remain on Duggar property and have access to minors.

Boob and Michelle continued to make appearances on the show. Anna made an appearance on the show.

They recently did an Easter Special entirely dedicated to faith and God. 

With that kind of extensive hypocrisy and cover-up, how the hell does TLC justify keeping them on air?

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Natalie68

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3 hours ago, MissT said:

The Dugger's are done!   This just killed the show (which I haven't watched or cared about in years).   I think advertisers, book deals, speaking engagements will all be canceled across the board.  They better all look for real jobs.    I don't feel sorry for any of them (except all the minor children).  These holy-rollers thought God would save them, but they got too greedy.    

The 1st Duggar kid to write THE tell all of all tell alls will prob make some good coin.  Just gotta be the 1st.  

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Oldernowiser

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4 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

If TLC doesn't cancel, they're truly the scum of the Earth. Let's say for shits and giggles, the DHS raid was always solely about the CP and not financial crimes. That means since 2019:

The Duggars knew Josh was downloading child porn. They continued to socialize with Josh. 

Boob helped Josh and Anna shuffle assets to avoid future seizure. 

Josh was allowed to remain on Duggar property and have access to minors.

Boob and Michelle continued to make appearances on the show. Anna made an appearance on the show.

They recently did an Easter Special entirely dedicated to faith and God. 

With that kind of extensive hypocrisy and cover-up, how the hell does TLC justify keeping them on air?

Money.

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ginger90

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30 minutes ago, Jeeves said:

 Oh Lord. Fuck you, TLC. "Hey, we haven't shown that guy on the show since 2015. We're all good here. Nothing to do with us, nothing to see here, just move along."

So it seems that even this won't break up the sweet sweet relationship between JB and TLC and the TV money will keep flowing into JB's coffers. 

What a world.

That’s how I interpreted it, also. 😡

48 minutes ago, iwantcookies said:

https://people.com/tv/tlc-statement-josh-duggar-arrest-on-child-pornography-charges/
 

not canceled yet 

Sure hope this isn’t how it’s actually worded:

“U.S Chief Magistrate Judge Erin L. Wiedemann ordered that Josh not be "in a residence where there's no minor in the home" if he is awarded bail.”

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Pingaponga

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11 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

the DHS raid was always solely about the CP and not financial crimes. That means since 2019:

The Duggars knew Josh was downloading child porn. They continued to socialize with Josh. 

Boob helped Josh and Anna shuffle assets to avoid future seizure. 

I have no idea how this works, but would the DHS have had to say what they were looking for when raiding the offices? I would have thought you wouldn't say what you are looking for, as it would give the suspects the opportunity to hide/remove whatever you didn't find at the time of the raid. And if they didn't say, would Josh have told his family what he had been doing? Wouldn't he be more likely to say "no clue what they were looking for"?

And how would Josh's assets be seized if he is charged with possession of child pornography?

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BitterApple

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3 minutes ago, Pingaponga said:

I have no idea how this works, but would the DHS have had to say what they were looking for when raiding the offices? I would have thought you wouldn't say what you are looking for, as it would give the suspects the opportunity to hide/remove whatever you didn't find at the time of the raid. And if they didn't say, would Josh have told his family what he had been doing? Wouldn't he be more likely to say "no clue what they were looking for"?

And how would Josh's assets be seized if he is charged with possession of child pornography?

I'm not sure, but I'm assuming Boob grilled Josh left, right and sideways about what potentially could've drawn the Feds to their business. 

With regards to assets, I'm guessing they could be seized to pay for fines, but I'm not an attorney so don't quote me on it.

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GeeGolly

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1 minute ago, Pingaponga said:

I have no idea how this works, but would the DHS have had to say what they were looking for when raiding the offices? I would have thought you wouldn't say what you are looking for, as it would give the suspects the opportunity to hide/remove whatever you didn't find at the time of the raid. And if they didn't say, would Josh have told his family what he had been doing? Wouldn't he be more likely to say "no clue what they were looking for"?

And how would Josh's assets be seized if he is charged with possession of child pornography?

I was thinking what your thinking. No one said what the raid was for. Josh was probably shitting bricks at the time, but figured since all this time passed he got away with it. I'm thinking the Duggars figured whatever they were looking for, likely financial, they didn't find.

Something else I thought of. The Duggars put out a statement that their home wasn't raided. But I wonder if Josh's house was. Technically not the TTH.

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