Like Sand Through an Hourglass: Behind the Scenes of DOOL

[TigerLynx]

Given some of the things Corday has said in interviews, I'm not sure he wants the show to succeed.  Oddly, he seems to resent it when certain characters or couples become popular.

[Apprentice79]

21 minutes ago, TigerLynx said:

Given some of the things Corday has said in interviews, I'm not sure he wants the show to succeed.  Oddly, he seems to resent it when certain characters or couples become popular.

Exactly..he always wanted the show to be actor proof and devoid of supercouples...It is why he recasted Bo and Jack and allowed incompetent writers to dismantle the supercouples with horrific writing..Look at what happened to Bo/Hope and Jack/Jennifer...Wilson was the last couple that he did dirty..He turned Will into a scheming cheater and Sonny into a wishywashy user...

Edited June 29, 2016 by Apprentice79

[SanDiegoInExile]

On 6/28/2016 at 6:24 AM, LeftPhalange said:

The taping schedule is absolutely hurting the show. Even if the writers find a clue and decide to end or alter one of their garbage stories the changes won't show up on screen for six months, which feels like an eternity. And the majority of the audience isn't on message boards so they probably have no clue about how far in advanced the show is filmed, which means they're more likely to give up watching when they're unhappy because they have no hope of things getting better. 

Please cite one example of how the show changed its course based on viewer feedback at any time since 1985.  The notion that storylines are trashed/changed/altered based on Viewer Outrage (tm) is plain silly, not based in fact, and merely a Golden Unicorn.  It's fantasy. Understandable, yes.

We all are frustrated from time to time by the choices/direction that the show takes.  It's maddening, but it has ALWAYS existed. We had the dreadful "Patch Gets His Eye Back" church scandal in the late 80s. The early 90s had the painful Tanner/Molly/Ginger/Brian era.  We had Marlena in Stellas's pit.  We had de-SORASed Mike and Carrie on a flying mattress in the mid-90s.  And Austin and Greta living in Virtual Reality loin cloths.  And a coronation massacre.  And Vivian having a tooth transistor and dressed as a carton of French Fries. Hope and Stefano locked away in a turret for weeks, becoming grudging BFFs.  Victor and Caroline sequestered on a ship for half a year. We had outer space twins. And Charity Rahmer.

Storylines are charted weeks/months/years in advance. The show has a Bible that maps out what will happen to characters. That's how DOOL has operated for decades.  The producers generally can tell what is working and what is not.  That's what leads to changes behind the scenes, which leads to changes on screen.  The taping schedule is a symptom, not a cause.

Edited June 30, 2016 by SanDiegoInExile

[WendyCR72]

45 minutes ago, SanDiegoInExile said:

Please cite one example of how the show changed its course based on viewer feedback at any time since 1985.

The alteration of Bo not being a deadbeat, after all, comes to mind, even if Peter Reckell's return was temporary. People cried foul about absent Bo being painted as a deadbeat. That was changed with the added kidnapping.

Does it happen often? No. But the fact is, even if it does happen again - even in a rare fashion - the audience has to wait half a year to see the results. And in this day and age, no one will wait it out that long. And soaps cannot afford to lose more viewers now. Even in this day and age, not all soap watchers go online to chat about it, so they may not know about the long wait in terms of taping and may believe TIIC just see their loyalty as expendable, and they leave.

Six months out is ridiculous at any time, but when stuff is tanking, it's almost deadly numbers wise.

[MsTree]

Does anyone know exactly why Days decided it was a good idea to tape 6 months in advance?  How long have they been doing this?

[teacake]

9 hours ago, SanDiegoInExile said:

Storylines are charted weeks/months/years in advance. The show has a Bible that maps out what will happen to characters. That's how DOOL has operated for decades.  The producers generally can tell what is working and what is not.  That's what leads to changes behind the scenes, which leads to changes on screen.  The taping schedule is a symptom, not a cause.

I wish this was the way the show was still working, but it seems a lot more chaotic now.  There always seem to be power struggles behind the scenes when Dena Higley is around.  There are only a handful of characters right now that seem to have a continuous arc.

8 hours ago, MsTree said:

Does anyone know exactly why Days decided it was a good idea to tape 6 months in advance?  How long have they been doing this?

The show adopted a faster filming schedule around 2009, and the tape-to-air lag has been gradually increasing ever since.

[Apprentice79]

9 hours ago, WendyCR72 said:

The alteration of Bo not being a deadbeat, after all, comes to mind, even if Peter Reckell's return was temporary. People cried foul about absent Bo being painted as a deadbeat. That was changed with the added kidnapping.

Does it happen often? No. But the fact is, even if it does happen again - even in a rare fashion - the audience has to wait half a year to see the results. And in this day and age, no one will wait it out that long. And soaps cannot afford to lose more viewers now. Even in this day and age, not all soap watchers go online to chat about it, so they may not know about the long wait in terms of taping and may believe TIIC just see their loyalty as expendable, and they leave.

Six months out is ridiculous at any time, but when stuff is tanking, it's almost deadly numbers wise.

I would also like to add that the way that the show broke up Shane and Kayla in the 90's was due to viewer outrage...I was a kid back then and I remember reading in the Soap Opera Digest about the hate mail that the show got for that awful pairing..Viewer feedback is always important to a show.. Marlena becoming an integrated character on the show was due to viewer feedback in the 70's..When the show wanted to expand her role on the show,due to her popularity, Deidre was hesitant about signing on a soap.. Here we are 40 years later and Marlena has had three husbands, children, step-children, grandchildren and even a great-granddaughter to boot...Soaps in the past used to be more mindful of the viewers, now they just don't give a shit about us...We now have 4 soaps left all on life support...

Edited June 30, 2016 by Apprentice79

[Happytobehere]

8 hours ago, Apprentice79 said:

I would also like to add that the way that the show broke up Shane and Kayla in the 90's was due to viewer outrage...I was a kid back then and I remember reading in the Soap Opera Digest about the hate mail that the show got for that awful pairing..Viewer feedback is always important to a show.. Marlena becoming an integrated character on the show was due to viewer feedback in the 70's..When the show wanted to expand her role on the show,due to her popularity, Deidre was hesitant about signing on a soap.. Here we are 40 years later and Marlena has had three husbands, children, step-children, grandchildren and even a great-granddaughter to boot...Soaps in the past used to be more mindful of the viewers, now they just don't give a shit about us...We now have 4 soaps left all on life support...

Exactly.  Let's not forget that Stephen Nichols as Steve was supposed to be a shirt term character.  The fans responded and Peter Reckell used his clout to lobby heavily to keep SN on and the rest is history.

[BlackMamba]

On 6/30/2016 at 2:37 AM, MsTree said:

Does anyone know exactly why Days decided it was a good idea to tape 6 months in advance?  How long have they been doing this?

They dont film 6 months in advance.   5 months in advance when they started back filming in April. 

[Apprentice79]

6 hours ago, BlackMamba said:

They dont film 6 months in advance.   5 months in advance when they started back filming in April. 

It is now back to six months in advance..I think they wrap up 2016 this week, before their break of 3 weeks..

[Kitty Redstone]

Ridiculous.  It is so arrogant for these showrunners to expect the audience to sit through months and months of shit waiting for ANOTHER writer change-out.  AGAIN. 

It's too bad there isn't another production company interested in buying Days from Corday and making it a success.  I still believe there is a healthy audience out there for soaps but the current crew running the four that remain don't have a clue how to (or flat out don't care to) connect with them. 

[Rick Kitchen]

4 hours ago, Apprentice79 said:

It is now back to six months in advance..I think they wrap up 2016 this week, before their break of 3 weeks..

If they're still filming, I wonder what it means that Freddie Smith and his girlfriend are vacationing in Hawaii right now.

[buffynut]

I believe this week was the first of 3 dark weeks.

[Rick Kitchen]

Meredith Lynn Scott (Anne) and Jen Lilley (Theresa) are both going to be on the AfterBuzz recap show Sunday.

[DisneyBoy]

Woo!!

[SanDiegoInExile]

<ASIDE> I'm not sure what is going on with the forums, but I can't seem to reply to comments. Site just keeps cycling and giving me my last comments and a perpetual WAIT.....

Others have noted that DOOL did respond to viewer reactions, particularly the "Shayla" and "Bad Patch" storylines. I think even the actors knew Shayla was a disaster.  Strangely, MBE doesnt seem to have much romantic chemistry with anyone outside of SN.  She has great chemistry in general with nearly everyone she has shared the screen with, but Shayla just had disaster written all over it.

DOOL transforming dayplayer thug Stephen Nichols to Leading Man was probably one of the best examples of taking viewer reaction. Arguably,  it was also likely something that producers saw.  Unlike today, where they thrust newbies on-screen with little development, the evolution of Patch was probably one of the most amazing and outstanding things the show ever did.  He went from playing Victor and Savannah's thug for weeks, ineptly chasing young Pete Jannings and Melissa Anderson Horton around faux Boston (the show only paid to send Michael Leon and Lisa Trusel to film onsite).  Then he was successfully integrated into the whole Pawn storyline, becoming a bestie to his captive.  Then it was revealed how deep his bond was with Bo Brady.  Then he taunted/threatened/befriended Hope, who became his biggest fan.  After playing "Tough Guy" with Kayla, he morphed into major star, carrying the show, and allowing the show to build his family - Jo, Adrienne, and BillyJack -- all of whom had great storylines of their own for several years.

And that was 30 years ago.

It's a different time and a different industry.  These days, you have well organized and orchestrated fanbases, even what I like to call faux-bases.  Crafty actors and wanna-be stars know how to manipulate fan reaction and producers/execs know that all too well.  On the other message board often cited here, there are a handful of devotees to a certain recurring actor who has been on the show for nearly 25 years.  The actor is adequate, but hasn't been leading man caliber for well over a decade. Yet week after week, his fans flood the site with plaintive wailings that the actor isnt getting screentime, or is forgotten in the PR publicity for the week.  It's the same handful of fans week after week after who dutifully make nearly identical postings and lamentations that the whole reason the show is in the c--pper is due to this actor's absence from Salem Romance 2016. Maybe they are right, perhaps making this erstwhile carpenter the Leading Man of Salem would overthrow Y+R's #1 status.  But I doubt it.

No one complains when a movie is completed a year in advance before it launches.  No one complains about the entire Bravo schedule, which is often filmed and completed 4-9 months before the shows air.  There are plenty of cable dramas that already have their 12-episode season in the books before the season even starts to air.  There have been a few times when prime time network shows tape as much as a year in advance. I think the last season of Parks and Rec was taped well over six months before it aired.

DOOL likely wouldn't be around had Corday not figured out how to save dollars by filming 7-8 episodes a week, instead of the traditional 5 (complete with OT that was common).  I think one factor behind the lead time has always been the possibility of cancellation.  When the day finally comes for DOOL to end, Corday wants to have a decent inventory of product to conclude out the run....or take the show elsewhere.  Admittedly, the "elsewhere" seems a lost cause at this point, but when the eventual non-renewal happens, Corday wants to shut down production immediately, and let the inventory of shows run their course.  Probably with maybe a Final Week of newly written shows that could film post-cancellation as air as The Final Episodes.

I still think those Final Episodes are several years away.  NBC doesn't have anything better to air in midday.  The show still has broad ad support --- I never see the infomercial type call-888 commercials during DOOL.  I was stunned to see how many of those cheap ads air on other daytime programs.

Edited July 2, 2016 by SanDiegoInExile

[Lastwaltz]

San Diego, love your post. The golden age of soaps, sigh.

[teacake]

13 hours ago, SanDiegoInExile said:

Others have noted that DOOL did respond to viewer reactions, particularly the "Shayla" and "Bad Patch" storylines. I think even the actors knew Shayla was a disaster.  Strangely, MBE doesnt seem to have much romantic chemistry with anyone outside of SN.  She has great chemistry in general with nearly everyone she has shared the screen with, but Shayla just had disaster written all over it.

She had a couple pairings on General Hospital that I really liked (and a couple that I didn't).  Days has never really seriously tried her with anyone besides Steve and Shane.

I don't totally agree about Shayla being a great example of the writers taking their cues from the audience... they were laying the groundwork for it from the day Steve died, and it played out for a year and a half, which is a pretty long time.  Plus Stephen Nichols said at the time that he was available for an arc to bring Steve back from the dead and close out Kayla's story, but they chose not to go that direction, which would have been a real audience-pleaser.  I think dropping MBE was more about the show making a bigger change away from the 80's supercouple era... it was the same time Al Rabin was let go, and for better and for worse the JER era was about to begin.

I think Shayla had a number of issues going on that were part of Days transitioning away from the 80's supercouple era.  The audience wasn't ready to accept it, and the actors were really fighting the material (which is probably at least part of the reason why the chemistry wasn't totally there, IMO).  Both MBE and CS talked about their problems with it at the time, and that they were invested in their characters and their stories.  But MBE said later that she was naive and idealistic, too.  On the face of it, the conflicts are great soap, and I think if it had happened a few years later when people were expecting something different from Days, and the actors had been more open to it, the audience might have been more willing to go along for the ride.

[Rick Kitchen]

Jen Lilley was sick today, so they postponed the Theresa/Anne interview on AfterBuzz.  :(

[TigerLynx]

I don't think super couples or the lack of them is the problem.  Super couples were something that originally happened by accident.  Certain pairings clicked with the fans, and took on a life of their own.  SLs used to be written organically, and they were character driven.  Now the SLs are plot driven, and whether it makes sense or not for a character to do certain things doesn't matter.  It also doesn't help that rather than simply accept a character, couple or SL is not working, the writers response is, "The fans are to stupid to understand their genius writing."  Those kinds of comments won't lead to viewers wanting to watch a show.

[Happytobehere]

On July 2, 2016 at 3:03 PM, lska said:

She had a couple pairings on General Hospital that I really liked (and a couple that I didn't).  Days has never really seriously tried her with anyone besides Steve and Shane.

I don't totally agree about Shayla being a great example of the writers taking their cues from the audience... they were laying the groundwork for it from the day Steve died, and it played out for a year and a half, which is a pretty long time.  Plus Stephen Nichols said at the time that he was available for an arc to bring Steve back from the dead and close out Kayla's story, but they chose not to go that direction, which would have been a real audience-pleaser.  I think dropping MBE was more about the show making a bigger change away from the 80's supercouple era... it was the same time Al Rabin was let go, and for better and for worse the JER era was about to begin.

I think Shayla had a number of issues going on that were part of Days transitioning away from the 80's supercouple era.  The audience wasn't ready to accept it, and the actors were really fighting the material (which is probably at least part of the reason why the chemistry wasn't totally there, IMO).  Both MBE and CS talked about their problems with it at the time, and that they were invested in their characters and their stories.  But MBE said later that she was naive and idealistic, too.  On the face of it, the conflicts are great soap, and I think if it had happened a few years later when people were expecting something different from Days, and the actors had been more open to it, the audience might have been more willing to go along for the ride.

As much as I hated Shane and Kayla for reasons that pretty much everyone else has stated, I also think that the show inadvertently set Kayla up to fail with any potential pairing because the audience know Steve was really alive.  I know why they did it and at the time, I as a viewer was overjoyed as Steve's demise was such a traumatic viewing experience.  However, unlike other characters whose spouse "died" and they moved on only to have said spouse turn out to be among the living, Kayla's character was hamstrung because it's one thing to be a new character trying to make room with the remaining half of a ghost of a supercouple of yesteryear, it's another thing to try to make room with the remaining half of the supercouple with the the looming specter of the clearly expected return of the other half of said supercouple.  In essence once Days gave fans of Steve and Kayla hope of their one day being reunited, there was no longer room for her on the show because the audience would never let Kayla move on because Days told us not to move on.

[Apprentice79]

15 minutes ago, Happytobehere said:

As much as I hated Shane and Kayla for reasons that pretty much everyone else has stated, I also think that the show inadvertently set Kayla up to fail with any potential pairing because the audience know Steve was really alive.  I know why they did it and at the time, I as a viewer was overjoyed as Steve's demise was such a traumatic viewing experience.  However, unlike other characters whose spouse "died" and they moved on only to have said spouse turn out to be among the living, Kayla's character was hamstrung because it's one thing to be a new character trying to make room with the remaining half of a ghost of a supercouple of yesteryear, it's another thing to try to make room with the remaining half of the supercouple with the the looming specter of the clearly expected return of the other half of said supercouple.  In essence once Days gave fans of Steve and Kayla hope of their one day being reunited, there was no longer room for her on the show because the audience would never let Kayla move on because Days told us not to move on.

I agree. However, we had Marcus who was single and had good chemistry with Kayla..Not to mention, his history with Steve...We knew that Hope was alive, when she died, but, Bo was allowed to move on with Carly and Billie.....If the show had cared about Kayla having agency, they could have done that with Marcus...A slow burn romance between Marcus and Kayla coming together, out of mutual grief for Steve..I remember a storyline with Kim,Shane, Kayla and Marcus and it worked for me...It was back when Kim was dating Lawrence to get the goods on him and Shayla were a couple...

Edited July 5, 2016 by Apprentice79

[WendyCR72]

Except chemistry is subjective, and while I did like Marcus, I only saw brotherly chemistry with Kayla. So it depends on what the rest of the audience would have seen. The same hamstrung option of half of a couple leaving happens on all the soaps, and I think it depends on the talent of the writing as to whether the spouse left behind can still move forward with that wildcard still in play. It worked for Bo on Days, but didn't for Kayla. And Hope? Well, she's a mess all the way around.

Kayla and Shane, though, I think it was part Steve but also because - let's face it - Kayla and Shane were each half of two supercouples. Two strikes right there. Yes, Kimberly had a thing with Lawrence and married Phillip, but many still hoped for Kim and Shane to reunite. Add in that Kayla acted out of character, playing the "villain" in discovering Jeannie's (Theresa's) true paternity (not Cal Winters' kid, after all!) but not immediately telling Shane, and it was doomed. Siblings sharing love interests on soaps wasn't new, but Kim and Kayla were close, and Kayla was being warped to try to make it work.

Bo didn't have to contend with a sibling and, as popular as Bo/Hope were/are, I think it also helped that Hope "died" not long after they returned to the show after years away (the cruise around the world), so the popularity wasn't a focal point on the show. So I think, not having had Bo/Hope around throughout their coupledom by the time Hope died made it a bit easier for Bo to move on with Carly, then Billie (UGH), than it did for Kayla since she and Steve were still fiercely devoted and shown as such daily before he "died".

[Apprentice79]

31 minutes ago, WendyCR72 said:

Except chemistry is subjective, and while I did like Marcus, I only saw brotherly chemistry with Kayla. So it depends on what the rest of the audience would have seen. The same hamstrung option of half of a couple leaving happens on all the soaps, and I think it depends on the talent of the writing as to whether the spouse left behind can still move forward with that wildcard still in play. It worked for Bo on Days, but didn't for Kayla. And Hope? Well, she's a mess all the way around.

Kayla and Shane, though, I think it was part Steve but also because - let's face it - Kayla and Shane were each half of two supercouples. Two strikes right there. Yes, Kimberly had a thing with Lawrence and married Phillip, but many still hoped for Kim and Shane to reunite. Add in that Kayla acted out of character, playing the "villain" in discovering Jeannie's (Theresa's) true paternity (not Cal Winters' kid, after all!) but not immediately telling Shane, and it was doomed. Siblings sharing love interests on soaps wasn't new, but Kim and Kayla were close, and Kayla was being warped to try to make it work.

Bo didn't have to contend with a sibling and, as popular as Bo/Hope were/are, I think it also helped that Hope "died" not long after they returned to the show after years away (the cruise around the world), so the popularity wasn't a focal point on the show. So I think, not having had Bo/Hope around throughout their coupledom by the time Hope died made it a bit easier for Bo to move on with Carly, then Billie (UGH), than it did for Kayla since she and Steve were still fiercely devoted and shown as such daily before he "died".

I love your post and you are so right...I hated Kayla when she was with Shane..I loved however painful it was for Kim to see them together..She was suppressing her pain and letting her little sister have a little bit of happiness after Steve died..This also played into Kim having a mental breakdown later, when she had alternate personalities...Shane was always her rock and not having him played a part in it...Kim has always put others above her..She knew everybody loved her uncle Eric, rather than exposed him as a pedophile. She chose to leave Salem and start anew in Europe as a prostitute.. She only had the courage to confront him about her abuse, when she realized that he was grooming Carrie to be his next victim...

Edited July 5, 2016 by Apprentice79

[TigerLynx]

It's the writers job to make new pairings work.  Just like they need to realize when SLs aren't working, they should also be able to organically write a new pairing for the characters they have on canvas.  At one time Luke/Laura were the couple on General Hospital, and both Tony Geary and Genie Francis left the show.  Tristan Rogers (Robert Scorpio) also left the show during part of the time Luke/Laura were gone.  Eventually they all returned, however, despite the fact that all three characters were leads on the show, and carried major SLs for years, General Hospital continued on with good ratings when all three of them were not on the show.

If the actors and actresses are also allowed to decide who they get to be paired with or do not want to be paired with, that's just one more problem with this show.  Between Ken Corday, Sony, the Network, the writers, and the cast all trying to call the shots, that is way to many cooks in the kitchen.  I still believe Ken Corday is the main problem.  They have changed out and switched writers how many times now?  And yet nothing has changed.  The SLs are boring and go nowhere, the characters are written out of character or don't get any screen time, and every couple months Ken Corday claims he didn't know what was going on, it's all the writers fault, time for new writers so they can continue to do the same thing.

[Frozendiva]

If it wasn't for the show, I probably would watch about 20-30 minutes of television most evenings - the news. Don't watch much summer TV. Except for the occasional movie on the Movie Channel here, just an hour or so here and there. The soaps have always been a weird sort of extended family for me.

[teacake]

9 hours ago, Happytobehere said:

As much as I hated Shane and Kayla for reasons that pretty much everyone else has stated, I also think that the show inadvertently set Kayla up to fail with any potential pairing because the audience know Steve was really alive.  I know why they did it and at the time, I as a viewer was overjoyed as Steve's demise was such a traumatic viewing experience.  However, unlike other characters whose spouse "died" and they moved on only to have said spouse turn out to be among the living, Kayla's character was hamstrung because it's one thing to be a new character trying to make room with the remaining half of a ghost of a supercouple of yesteryear, it's another thing to try to make room with the remaining half of the supercouple with the the looming specter of the clearly expected return of the other half of said supercouple.  In essence once Days gave fans of Steve and Kayla hope of their one day being reunited, there was no longer room for her on the show because the audience would never let Kayla move on because Days told us not to move on.

That's a good point; it reminds me a little of the storytelling around Robin's death on General Hospital in recent years, although in that case it took a few weeks or months to reveal that Robin was alive, on screen, and they continued to show her.  With Steve, they hinted at it right after his death, but that was as far as it went, although the villain responsible was still on the canvas.

For me, since Steve was most sincerely dead from Kayla's POV, I think they should have been able to tell a story for her, maybe even making use of the tension between what she knew and what the audience knew about Steve.  The themes of the Shayla story didn't really fit that as well as someone like Marcus would have, although I didn't want to see Kayla with Steve's best friend.  (If Michael T. Weiss hadn't left the show earlier that year, I think Mike would have been a great rebound.)  But getting the audience to empathize with trials of a character, who had been one of their leading ladies for years, after the death of her soulmate should have been doable.

[BlackMamba]

Yall girl did an interview with AB

[DisneyBoy]

Ugh.

 

Uuuuuuuggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhh.

[Rick Kitchen]

I was just coming to post that KM link.  I haven't watched the video yet, but had to splutter with laughter that she started off with "I love talking about myself."

[Rick Kitchen]

I had to shake my head at KM talking about what a wonderful, loyal to her family, person Missy Reeves is.  Yeah, the little affair she had doesn't count, I guess.

 

She really likes Casey Moss, though.

[LeftPhalange]

How many exit interviews is she going to give?

[boes]

10 minutes ago, LeftPhalange said:

How many exit interviews is she going to give?

Well, it's probably the only way to get her kangaroo face online, especially since Wild Kingdom is no longer filming.   She should audition for Meerkat Manor.

And Damn, she looks a lot like Kristen Alderson from OLTL - and that's NOT a good thing.

Edited July 9, 2016 by boes

[annabel]

OMG, I hadn't noticed the Kristen Alderson thing, but in that photo, YESSSSSSS

I do (or did) like KA, she just had a terrible character to play on GH. I will give her a chance in the next thing she does

[kitmerlot1213]

On 7/9/2016 at 1:05 AM, boes said:

Well, it's probably the only way to get her kangaroo face online, especially since Wild Kingdom is no longer filming.   She should audition for Meerkat Manor.

And Damn, she looks a lot like Kristen Alderson from OLTL - and that's NOT a good thing.

You jest, but the woman hasn't been working on the show since December, and yet she is still milking her final appearance on Days for all of it's worth.  Me thinks her illustrious "acting" career isn't going as well as she hoped and she's clinging to all of the adulation her fans are giving to her.  Very sad indeed.

And I checked her imdb profile and only 4 acting credits are listed--no type of writing credits attributed to her., so there goes her "I helped write Abby's story" nonsense that she talked about in her other exit interview--how many have there been now?

[carrier76]

I don't know if this belongs here or somewhere else, but I just have to say that I laughed out loud HARD at her last scene being her JUMPING OUT OF A WINDOW in a gown and THAT MASK. Come ON, man!!!  Comedy gold. 

[Rick Kitchen]

YouTube AfterBuzz will be interviewing Patrick Muldoon this afternoon.  I don't know if I'll be watching it, though.

[DisneyBoy]

Did they ever interview ED?

[madhacker]

Quote

Well, it's probably the only way to get her kangaroo face online, especially since Wild Kingdom is no longer filming.   She should audition for Meerkat Manor.

Oh Hell no, just because she wouldn't last 5 seconds against Flower.

[Rick Kitchen]

Guy Wilson will be with Dishin Days on AfterBuzz Sunday.

[DisneyBoy]

Oooh. Could be interesting. Wonder if he's aware of how badly-received his Will was.

[LeftPhalange]

He's on twitter so I'm sure he is.

[Rick Kitchen]

Oh, yeah, people have tweeted nasty things to him.

[DisneyBoy]

Poor guy. I didn't like his Will, but it was a tough situation. Hopefully he can Joke about it and the hosts don't ignore the elephant in the room...

[Petunia13]

Jen Lilley hosted a live chat q & a on Twitter today and was candid and funny with everyone. She revealed she's booked 2 movies and tv guest shot already. ? 

(And that her voice is still healing before she can finish her album.) I didn't ask her any questions, I was sleeping lol. I wish I had but hopefully she'll do a new one again. She often replies to tweets I think she's replied to me before. 

[Rick Kitchen]

What is her voice healing from?

[Rick Kitchen]

Jill Farren Phelps is out at Y&R.  Any bets on where she goes next?

[mariah23]

1 hour ago, Rick Kitchen said:

Jill Farren Phelps is out at Y&R.  Any bets on where she goes next?

For the love of GOD, why did you put this in the universe!!!!

[WendyCR72]

I think JFP is finally SOL unless she returns to GH. (Nooooooooooooo!!!!!) Ken Corday will be at Days until he or the show dies, so no Jill there. Y&R ditched her, and B&B is run by one of the Bells. That's a sole upside to only 4 soaps. Unless she goes to one of the web soaps...

Maybe Jill will do the world a favor and fade into obscurity now. Please?

[teacake]

2 hours ago, WendyCR72 said:

I think JFP is finally SOL unless she returns to GH. (Nooooooooooooo!!!!!) Ken Corday will be at Days until he or the show dies, so no Jill there. Y&R ditched her, and B&B is run by one of the Bells. That's a sole upside to only 4 soaps. Unless she goes to one of the web soaps...

DAYS does have an EP or co-EP role separate from Corday... right now there are two of them, Greg Meng and Albert Alarr.  That's also the role that Liza DeCazotte, Gary Tomlin (separate from his HW stints), Noel Maxam, Ed Scott, etc. have occupied.  Hopefully JFP won't end up with it, ever.

eta: There is reason to be hopeful... JFP's ouster was rumored to have something to do with Sony coming to their senses and realizing what bad shape both Y&R and DAYS were in, so if she got ousted from one hopefully she wouldn't get hired at the other.

Edited July 14, 2016 by lska