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[MsJamieDornan]

11 hours ago, TVbitch said:

I forget which show did this case more extensively recently (maybe a 2-hour 20/20?), but in that one Ashley came off as way more unstable and paranoid, accusing Doug of things that there was no evidence he had done. I think all that stuff really came back to bite her, not to mention she did not make a good witness on the stand, with no real tears

I remember seeing it also, and Ashley was completely crazy (IMO).

[badgerwoman]

12 hours ago, MsJamieDornan said:

I remember seeing it also, and Ashley was completely crazy (IMO).

that can all  be the editing.  But both Ashley and Doug clearly had issues of their own.

[chick binewski]

14 hours ago, MsJamieDornan said:

I remember seeing it also, and Ashley was completely crazy (IMO).

Hard to believe since that therapist who served as Ashley's Dateline spokesperson and had her patient move in with her seemed super qualified. /s

I think a couple who meet cute by showing off their guns at a Ben Carson party are likely to have some issues. Doug didn't sound like someone I'd be interested in knowing but I did not buy Ashley's theatrics. At all.

 

[Mondrianyone]

I love how Ashley had two lawyers and a shrink on speed dial so speedy that they showed up practically before the cops did. Would it be wrong to think that smelled of premeditation?

[JudyObscure]

14 hours ago, chick binewski said:

I think a couple who meet cute by showing off their guns at a Ben Carson party are likely to have some issues.

Well said.  I feel sorry for the jury.  A man who would punch a Golden Retriever, a woman who faked sobbing on the witness stand, a house with guns everywhere. Somebody was going to end up dead.

[iMonrey]

4 hours ago, JudyObscure said:

a woman who faked sobbing on the witness stand,

I'm not sure how much to read into so-called "fake sobbing." A person can get emotional and choked up, and find it difficult to speak, without literally shedding tears. That doesn't necessarily mean he or she is faking that emotion. And those prosecutors were so damn proud of themselves for turning up the lights and yelling "no tears! No tears!" like it was their real "gotcha" moment.

I keep circling back to motive because nobody on the police or prosecution side ever offered any potential one. If there had been some sort of life insurance policy up for grabs, or if she stood to gain financially in some other way, then I'd be more inclined to suspect premeditation on her part. 

[Mondrianyone]

40 minutes ago, iMonrey said:

I keep circling back to motive because nobody on the police or prosecution side ever offered any potential one.

I assumed custody of the child was the motive. The police officer testified that she said she'd do anything to make sure she kept the little girl (ending by calling him an asshole). I had the general feeling she was used to getting no less than whatever she wanted.

[iMonrey]

On 11/18/2024 at 11:31 AM, Mondrianyone said:

I assumed custody of the child was the motive. The police officer testified that she said she'd do anything to make sure she kept the little girl (ending by calling him an asshole). I had the general feeling she was used to getting no less than whatever she wanted.

But the cop in question never put that in his report, they made a point of that. And yeah we've seen murders over child custody before but why would she have resorted to murder unless she truly feared for the child's safety? Maybe she's just crazy but by his own admission the guy had a violent streak.

[ButterQueen]

I didn’t believe Ashley’s story one bit.  

[TVbitch]

Where did I see Friday's before? I think the one I saw was more focused on the victims hip hop club and him trying to be popular in that scene. 

[Realitystarr]

Yea the dad looked familiar to me but I can't place it now and it was obvious the FIANCE was the killer from the start.

I googled  it and he  has still not  admitted his motive for killing her. I'm thinking she was going to break up with him or maybe he thought she was cheating.

Guess we'll never know.

[TVbitch]

Rerun about Nicholas Rossi, with an update in last 15 minutes. It absolutley galls me that this guy is STILL abusing the court system, wasting what has to be millions of dollars at this point. ...And now they're going to offer him a deal!

[badgerwoman]

On 12/15/2024 at 6:28 PM, TVbitch said:

Rerun about Nicholas Rossi, with an update in last 15 minutes. It absolutley galls me that this guy is STILL abusing the court system, wasting what has to be millions of dollars at this point. ...And now they're going to offer him a deal!

I finally watched the update.  It is all pretty infuriating that he's gotten away with such much stuff for so long.  the best thing about a plea deal is he wouldn't be able to use a court case for more publicity.   

 

On 12/15/2024 at 6:28 PM, TVbitch said:

Rerun about Nicholas Rossi, with an update in last 15 minutes. It absolutley galls me that this guy is STILL abusing the court system, wasting what has to be millions of dollars at this point. ...And now they're going to offer him a deal!

 

[iMonrey]

On 12/15/2024 at 6:28 PM, TVbitch said:

Rerun about Nicholas Rossi, with an update in last 15 minutes. It absolutley galls me that this guy is STILL abusing the court system, wasting what has to be millions of dollars at this point. ...And now they're going to offer him a deal!

I still can't believe he had the chutzpah to do an actual Dateline interview with Andrea while pretending to be that British guy. 

[iMonrey]

Was "Left for Dead" new? I could swear I've seen it before. Amber (the victim) had a very distinctive facial piercing. On her upper lip, halfway between her mouth and her nose. I couldn't imagine where the other side of that thing came out or how she could stand it rubbing up against her gums.

The way they kept showing her "friend" Aric's photo made me think he would be messed up in this somehow. I still think he should be charged as an accessory for leaving her there in the park when he couldn't wake her up! Some friend.

And I have no idea why the jury didn't find Sam guilty of attempted murder when they found him guilty on all other charges. Sheesh.

Amber's friend Kirstie had a permanent surprise face.

[Medicine Crow]

38 minutes ago, iMonrey said:

Was "Left for Dead" new? I could swear I've seen it before. Amber (the victim) had a very distinctive facial piercing. On her upper lip, halfway between her mouth and her nose. I couldn't imagine where the other side of that thing came out or how she could stand it rubbing up against her gums.

The way they kept showing her "friend" Aric's photo made me think he would be messed up in this somehow. I still think he should be charged as an accessory for leaving her there in the park when he couldn't wake her up! Some friend.

And I have no idea why the jury didn't find Sam guilty of attempted murder when they found him guilty on all other charges. Sheesh.

Amber's friend Kirstie had a permanent surprise face.

No, it wasn't new & I had to turn off the TV & research the story because it seemed so familiar.  I'd seen it before & knew how it ended, so ...

[LuvMyShows]

On 12/18/2024 at 11:59 AM, iMonrey said:

I still can't believe he had the chutzpah to do an actual Dateline interview with Andrea while pretending to be that British guy. 

What cracked me up about that, was how his accent (which was terrible to start with), would come and go. When he got on a roll of what he was talking about, the accent all but disappeared.

With all his terribleness, the thing that actually stuck with me from the episode was that female who contracted with him at $7K/mo for some sort of consulting, and after having received literally zero product from him (and receiving lots of excuses), kept paying him $7k for many more months!  She seemed intelligent, so I was just floored that she kept paying him. And it wasn't even a situation where she knew he did such good work that it was worth it in the hopes of the future good work, cause she simply hired him because of qualities in his resume.

Oh yeah, there was one more thing that stuck with me, and that was the incredulity on the part of the detectives (?), that his wife was in on the whole con of pretending to be British and trying to escape justice for what he'd done.