S12.E19: We Need to Talk About Kathy

[Surrealist]

3 hours ago, Natalie68 said:

Smoking a doob hoping no one bothers him

With this group, Mo might be better off with a cocaine addiction.

[Keywestclubkid]

lol with all the fighting id either be an alcoholic or stoned anytime they were around .. just to take the edge off of them screaming about the same god damn fight for the 975th time 

[RealHousewife]

30 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

lol with all the fighting id either be an alcoholic or stoned anytime they were around .. just to take the edge off of them screaming about the same god damn fight for the 975th time 

[hoodooznoodooz]

New scene: Crystal says that there are individuals in the group who protect one another at all costs. She’s sick of the double standard.

[princelina]

On 9/26/2022 at 1:22 PM, Natalie68 said:

Oh sure Kathy doesn't need the money.  It is a respect thing.  If we can all sit through Kyle's stores, Rinna's wine/lip kit/dusters, Toothless not homeless, Erika's plastic hair, we can hear about her tequila business. 

Then she needs to host a lame "promotional party" where the housewives are the only guests 😃

On 9/26/2022 at 3:22 PM, Natalie68 said:

I'm going to guess Kathy is more famous or infamous than Kyle.  Plus, Kyle's face has changed to much over the last 12 years it would be forgivable if you didn't recognize her.

IMO without this show few people would know either.  I'm around their ages and I remember Kim from the 70s.  I remember Kyle's character from LHotP but didn't know her real name.  I know Hilton hotels, and Paris Hilton, but without watching this show I wouldn't know Kathy's name.  We know she's used to showing off in her world, and getting her butt kissed, and Kyle now has money and Bravo fame for this show, so IMO the jealousy is there, but they both now have lots of money, and are famous in their circles, so they should just relax.

[MamaGee]

I haven't read any comments about this episode but I have to say one thing: Rinna needs to STFU about having PTSD from watching Kathy have an emotional meltdown. As the wife of a soldier with diagnosed complex PTSD from serving in war, she needs to chill the eff out. Shame on her. 

[ZettaK]

On 9/25/2022 at 3:23 PM, Slakkie said:

So Teddi said on Two T's podcast that there was some kind of slur at the DJ and that lawyers were brought in to shut the talk down so they have to talk around the issues.  No clue if that is true or not but that is what Teddi is saying.

She said she has seen Kathy get upset and not be the Kathy we saw on screen.  So take that for what it is worth.  I am guessing that Rinna is pissed / afraid of Team Hilton is not playing the game and at this point has nothing to lose and that is probably feeding the reactions for her and Erika.

I mean who knows the truth I am sure Kathy was a complete ass no clue if she used a slur or not as Rinna is not exactly someone I would bet the farm on and her CONTINUING erratic behavior all over the place does not give me a warm fuzzy.

I feel like the FFF likes to be judge and jury on what is allowed to be discussed and they ALL have dirt on each other and it seems like Dorito is afraid that her dirt will be told by Rinna and Erika so she is trying to keep them all happy.

I will say Teddi said Kathy showed up with an entire TEAM vs by herself and on one hand I get it - one slur can get you cancelled so I guess she is fighting fire...I just loathe Rinna and Erika so I am okay with it

OH and she also said she was told they are editing DIana out partly because she did not resonate and partly because she is suing on the BOT-gate.  I did my duty by listening my ears are still bleeding a bit.

The articles which appeared immediately after the Aspen club incident (and it seems Teddi Mellencamp said the same) mentioned that Kathy's lawyers sent cease and desist letters to everybody (the club management, the HWs, Bravo), that's why we didn't see, or hear more about it after. 

On 9/25/2022 at 8:04 AM, Keywestclubkid said:

It’s not about how much money they are worth (they are all worth more then the average viewer could ever hope to be).. Why invest in something just to have someone try to sabotage it?

Would Rinna be cool with someone going no I don’t wanna try your wine oh did you hear about Vanderpump’s she’s my friend I wanna taste that then proceeded to give it publicity by saying how smooth and great it is while they refused to even taste yours on camera?  Lisa knew what she was doing and did it purposely. So I would say Kathy has a valid reason for being upset 100% 

Kathy showed up to crystals party RIGHT after the “incident” Lisa was upset about that remember (which is funny cause she normally bitches when they do something and DON’T show up to “talk about it’ that was her whole gripe with Denise) She thought/ hoping she would be able to come in say how traumatized she was (PTSD) get the girl’s sympathy while also saying see everything I’m saying MUST be true cause look Kathy is so embarrassed she didn’t even show up to her friend Crystal’s birthday party  (at this point we all see how Lisa operates) but with Kathy showing up it threw a wrench in cause she wouldn’t let Lisa do that without giving her side  (this is why I don’t think Kathy blew up as bad as Lisa is saying she did) not saying she didn’t “vent” in that car but that she was RAGING to the point of giving someone PTSD

Now she is like HOW DARE she show up? The next episode is the last of the season so what did she actually miss? I mean it must not have been that much if they end the season with that episode right? And I’m sorry but I wouldn’t wanna be around people who just accused me of saying such terrible things while my sister sits and co-signed it forgetting that when she fights she says some nasty things herself .
 

Kathy also is just a friend of she doesn’t and isn’t required to show up to everything that’s not what friends of do. Even so she is more in this then Sheree was ALL season 

There are more people (investors, or not) to promote the tequila including Eva Longoria. It's not that Kathy is so essential in promoting it. 

Kathy avoided going to the season finale parties where everybody goes.

[ZettaK]

On 9/25/2022 at 4:07 PM, Jel said:

Sutton denies Kathy used slur against her employee:

https://pagesix.com/2022/05/09/sutton-stracke-why-i-squashed-kathy-hilton-gay-slur-rumors/

Sutton said that her employee/assistant was not in Aspen. The incident was allegedly between an employee (the manager) and Kathy. The employee was asked to relay a message to the DJ.

Edited October 3, 2022 by ZettaK

[ZettaK]

On 9/26/2022 at 3:09 PM, Natalie68 said:

The DJ would download it if they didn't have it and my guess is this place does cater to their clients.  I also can't believe the supposed version of the conversation/accusations.  Working in a club like atmosphere myself, no one would have been able to suss out that conversation with how loud music is played.  

It was not the DJ. It was the manager of the club. Kathy asked him to relay a request to the DJ for a Michael Jackson song. The argument was because of Michael Jackson's reputation as a pedophile. Nobody is supposed to request his songs anymore. 

On 9/26/2022 at 3:14 PM, Hiyo said:

The other issue is, this is a private club in Aspen where most patrons of the club could also be  future employers. So it wouldn't make sense for the DJ to be initially rude to Kathy.

It was the manager of the club, not the DJ who had the argument with Kathy. The DJ couldn't hear her, so she asked the manager. 

Edited October 3, 2022 by ZettaK

[RealHousewife]

On 9/30/2022 at 4:30 PM, MamaGee said:

I haven't read any comments about this episode but I have to say one thing: Rinna needs to STFU about having PTSD from watching Kathy have an emotional meltdown. As the wife of a soldier with diagnosed complex PTSD from serving in war, she needs to chill the eff out. Shame on her. 

You are right, but to be honest, PTSD gets thrown around a lot. I think everyone needs to dial it back using it so casually out of respect for people like your husband. 

[Keywestclubkid]

4 hours ago, ZettaK said:

The articles which appeared immediately after the Aspen club incident (and it seems Teddi Mellencamp said the same) mentioned that Kathy's lawyers sent cease and desist letters to everybody (the club management, the HWs, Bravo), that's why we didn't see, or hear more about it after. 

There are more people (investors, or not) to promote the tequila including Eva Longoria. It's not that Kathy is so essential in promoting it. 

Kathy avoided going to the season finale parties where everybody goes.

Once again doesn’t matter how many investors you don’t let someone try to badmouth it. They all pimp products… Kathy is friend of doesn’t have to go to anything 

[Jel]

4 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Sutton said that her employee/assistant was not in Aspen. The incident was allegedly between an employee (the manager) and Kathy. The employee was asked to relay a message to the DJ.

I feel a game of telephone happening with all of this stuff. If there is an article that says, in effect, "Kathy Hilton used these slurs" can you please link that one, because I looked and couldn't find it. And I just can't bring myself to go back in there ;)

[MamaGee]

11 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

You are right, but to be honest, PTSD gets thrown around a lot. I think everyone needs to dial it back using it so casually out of respect for people like your husband. 

I don't disagree with you! But somehow, I think even a housewife should be more aware. But who am I kidding??

[Einstein]

A little late to the party here, but Rinna with her PTSD get out of here.  She claims to have known Kathy for 30 years and is distraught over this behavior that she's never seen before and demanding apologies (which she did get).  Where is the apology from Ericka for her rant the night before when she had to be escorted out of the house by Rinna.  There is no way she stopped her rant when they got in the van.  Why are we not getting any leaks about what she was saying and about who cause you gotta know Sutton and probably Garcelle were at the top of that list.  And where's the PTSD from Rinna over Ericka's rant?

[RoseAllDay]

Rewatching this today…may I ask what is so 1920s about Rinna’s circus ringmaster outfit, and Erika’s Statue of Liberty headwear? 

[CallmeCray]

Ya know, I know vile Kyle’s currently catching heat (deservedly so, with her behavior on the show) and Kathy’s old news for a bit, but good gravy, is she awful.   

I now have absolutely no doubt that she said what Erika said she did (as far as the homophobic slur) in Aspen, but I don’t know how I missed just how despicable she really is.  

I really underestimated what a trash human one can be.  It also offends the shit out of me that she blames everything on having “ADD”.  Honey, ADD does not make one an absolute narcissistic asshole.  

Anytime that witch comes onto my TV screen, the channel will be a-changin.

 

Edited December 7, 2023 by CallmeCray