S04.E10: Grass on the Streets and Weeds on the Rooftops

[KittyQ]

1 minute ago, bichonblitz said:

So Beth just happens to know where and when Jamie is going to dump the body, parks her care somewhere Jamie doesn't see it and waits for him in the dark. Ok, show. 

The family probably has that particular spot on their GPS frequent destination list. 

I can't manage to be sure when I arrange to meet someone on purpose that I won't miss them at first, but Beth does somehow know exactly when Jamie will arrive to toss his dad's body off the cliff. I wonder how long she was sitting there in the dark.

[joliefaire]

9 minutes ago, Tatum said:

Well, I love Wes Bentley

Me, too!  He seems a nice person and is certainly well-liked by the rest of the cast in real life.  But, I hope he's okay--he seems to be getting thinner and thinner until his face and hands now look nearly skeletal.  He has admitted to 'hitting bottom multiple times' in the past due to heroin addition, alongside his now-deceased best pal, Heath Ledger.   I hope and trust that he's well and happy in his private life, but I wish he'd eat more!

[Tatum]

1 minute ago, joliefaire said:

Me, too!  He seems a nice person and is certainly well-liked by the rest of the cast in real life.  But, I hope he's okay--he seems to be getting thinner and thinner until his face and hands now look nearly skeletal.  He has admitted to 'hitting bottom multiple times' in the past due to heroin addition, alongside his now-deceased best pal, Heath Ledger.   I hope and trust that he's well and happy in his private life, but I wish he'd eat more!

Oh really? I had no idea about that. He totally deserves better than this show.

[Marley]

Oh I did not know that about Wes Bentley. Off to google him.

One other crazy thing is that ppl prefer no beans in their chilli lol. I’m sure Texas style chilli is delish but I love beans in my chilli lol. Jimmy was making me laugh at the table with his jokes tho. Actually liked him this episode. 

John and Evelyn were horrible parents. 

[Guy Incognito]

Good riddance to the worst season of this series by far!  What a disappointment this was when it started with so much potential.  After episode 1 that delivered on the resolution of the Cliff Hanger with the big shootout, literally NOTHING HAPPENED.  Episode after episode of nothing, unless you count the massive time spent trying to spinoff two other shows.  So many things wrong with this season, but I have to list the one's that really irked me:

 

1) After the events of last seasons finale with all of the Duttons attacked, we learn who the mastermind was a couple of episodes in and literally nothing comes of that story until the last 15 minutes of the finale.  The audience knows what Jamie's dad did, but has to sit there and watch horses do tricks and 1883 segments with no relation to the main storylines for like 8 weeks.

2) Remember when the Cattle Barons were going to back Kayce for Governor?  I do.  What the heck happened to that?  Did Kayce even show up to work as the Livestock Commissioner the last month?  The last time he actually referenced that job was when he was terrorizing the CA guy for not letting cattle cross his land.  I guess those Cattle Owners stopped being political this season?

3) Remember when Jimmy had a broken back?  I do.  What the heck happened to that?  Jimmy literally had to wear a neck brace until Taylor Sheridan told him he couldnt ride in his truck with it on, so then his neck was magically healed and we never heard about the problem again.  

4) Speaking of Jimmy, it's bad enough we had to endure entire segments of Jimmy in Texas for the sole purpose of backdooring another spinoff into this show,but man, we are supposed to believe his couple of weeks there "made him a cowboy"?  How?  What the heck did Jimmy do at the 6666 that turned him into a cowboy?  He jerked off a horse. practiced some roping one night, then started banging the only female near his age within 50 miles, and had a couple of long rides across the plains.  Where did all this growth come from?  We literally did not see him do anything that would imply growth as a cowboy.

And BTW, as much as I disliked the Mia storyline (especially in the bunkhouse), that girl was there for him when he was paralyzed the first time.  She nursed him back to health, stood by him, gave him some lovin', and was quite frankly way out of his league.  He got over her pretty damn quick considering the Vet from 6666 basically told him that he was the only available male choice around for miles. I guess that trumped getting him through a broken back.

5) Speaking of Mia in the bunkhouse, remember when the Girls all got thrown out of the Bunkhouse?  I do.  It was kind of a big deal and all with the whole Walker and Wade thing.  Like 2 episodes later they are all back in the bunkhouse at night like nothing ever happened.  I mean, I get Teeter after pleading with John Dutton, but the blond and Mia were both back in there all the time like nothing ever happened.  And why was Mia even still around after Jimmy left?  Just so we could see another scene in the finale where Jimmy shits on her again before leaving?  WTF?

6) Hey Market Equities lady, what exactly did you hire Beth for?  For that matter, what did you fire her for?  It appeared Beth did a tell all type interview with a newspaper. but they never really explained it in detail.  That couldnt have just been an article about the protest.  I never got the logic of bringing in the old lady to hire Beth in the first place, but then she pretty much did nothing all season until coming in at the end to fire Beth.  Uhhh, ok, I guess you're a tough old lady?  Good for you.  Now go do something to improve the story.

7) Does the Reservation folks and Rainwater even care about the Dutton land anymore?  Doesn't seem like they are doing much anymore on that front.  Does Rainwater even run the Casino anymore? Dude is out more with Kayce doing vision quests or John solving mysteries than running his Casino. 

I always thought the end game with this show was the merging of the Dutton land with the Tribal people in some kind of alliance through Kayce and specifically Tate as a way to preserve it from Market Equities.  Seemed like a natural way to save the Ranch forever but also get Rainwater and his people what they wanted, since the Duttons are now married into and a part of the tribe through Tate.  I didnt see anything this season that would lead the show down that path, but maybe I need a Vision Quest like Kayce to see that.  

This show needs to rethink its direction.  Less spinoff time next year, more land dispute drama.  Less time with Tate in a bathtub and more about how the Dutton's and the Tribe can outsmart Market Equities. 

See ya next season...

Edited January 3, 2022 by Guy Incognito

[Cool Breeze]

I love KC but John Dutton is an absolutely horrible parent.  He's made Jamie his cowardly pawn, making him go to law school when he didn't want to and forcing him into a lifetime of, essentially, indentured servitude to "keep the ranch".  And Beth, he probably loves her the most but he is perfectly happy using her in just about any way possible to "keep the ranch".  And, jeez, he branded Kayce himself.  He's a hard man and a terrible father.

As for Beth and Jamie, I do wish Jamie would grow a pair and dare Beth to go public with that incriminating evidence.  Over the last century, the Yellowstone has deposited maybe hundreds of bodies at the train station.  Any number of them were killed by Beth's husband.  Heck, John put a guy there this season.  "So, sure, you want to "own" me with that picture, I'm going to "own" you because I have a lot more knowledge of where the (literal) bodies are buried than you do.  Mutually-assured destruction.  You take me down, I take your precious husband and daddy with me."  And Jamie should make this threat after he's documented and catalogued all the evidence so no one can make it disappear.

 

[Crashcourse]

I noticed that Wes Bentley was getting thinner, and I hope he's ok.  I didn't know about his past issues.

[Tatum]

4 minutes ago, Cool Breeze said:

As for Beth and Jamie, I do wish Jamie would grow a pair and dare Beth to go public with that incriminating evidence.  Over the last century, the Yellowstone has deposited maybe hundreds of bodies at the train station.  Any number of them were killed by Beth's husband.  Heck, John put a guy there this season.  "So, sure, you want to "own" me with that picture, I'm going to "own" you because I have a lot more knowledge of where the (literal) bodies are buried than you do.  Mutually-assured destruction.  You take me down, I take your precious husband and daddy with me."  And Jamie should make this threat after he's documented and catalogued all the evidence so no one can make it disappear.

Yeah, wasn't Beth almost in tears last season when Jamie admitted the reporter was about to blow the whistle on the Duttons? And John said something like, this is the only time I've ever seen Beth afraid? I mean, Rip could easily hide out, but John definitely would be hung out to dry. Although maybe not, the way John runs the town and everyone in it. They'd probably all collectively agree the dead guys had it coming and thank John for taking care of them.

[Crashcourse]

15 minutes ago, Guy Incognito said:

And BTW, as much as I disliked the Mia storyline (especially in the bunkhouse), that girl was there for him when he was paralyzed the first time.  She nursed him back to health, stood by him, gave him some lovin', and was quite frankly way out of his league.  He got over her pretty damn quick considering the Vet from 6666 basically told him that he was the only available male choice around for miles. I guess that trumped getting him through a broken back.

Mia could have paralyzed him when he was lying helpless in that hospital bed and she straddled him.   She didn't care.  And then after that, she's still encouraging him to resume rodeoing because she wants to be the girlfriend/wife of a rodeo guy.  Like Jimmy said to Emily, Mia was only interested in what she wanted him to be, while Emily was interested in who he is now.  He was right.

[Guy Incognito]

14 minutes ago, Crashcourse said:

Mia could have paralyzed him when he was lying helpless in that hospital bed and she straddled him.   She didn't care.  And then after that, she's still encouraging him to resume rodeoing because she wants to be the girlfriend/wife of a rodeo guy.  Like Jimmy said to Emily, Mia was only interested in what she wanted him to be, while Emily was interested in who he is now.  He was right.

Jimmy was an ex meth dealing knucklehead with very few positive things in his life when Mia met him.  Jimmy had finally uncovered a skill he was good at in riding bucking broncos.  All Mia did was encourage that skill and encourage Jimmy to take control of his life and not let John Dutton decide what he could and could not do.

Mia was really just someone expecting reasonable decisions from an adult.  When Jimmy got hurt, she didnt bail on him.  She stuck around during a pretty tough time in his life.  Then Jimmy left her again because John Dutton made him go to Texas, when Mia simply wanted him to go live a life with her outside of the ranch. 

Jimmy leaves for a couple of weeks, essentially becomes the person Mia wanted him to be all along, then comes back to Yellowstone and throws dirt in her face before leaving the show.  The whole storyline was odd and kind of mean to Mia for no reason.  Mia didnt even need to be at the bunkhouse when Jimmy got back.  We really didnt need to see Mia again after Jimmy left for Texas.  That's my point.

[Tatum]

9 minutes ago, Guy Incognito said:

Jimmy was an ex meth dealing knucklehead with very few positive things in his life when Mia met him.

All I can think about here is...so Vet Assistant is pretty upfront that it's Jimmy or nothing, and she's tired of nothing, but what is Mia's excuse? Why does she even want him?

 

I do agree with you though, there was no reason to bring her back just to have Jimmy reject her again. She told Jimmy when he left that she was done with him.

[NeenerNeener]

9 minutes ago, Guy Incognito said:

not let John Dutton decide what he could and could not do

John Dutton probably paid several hundred thousand dollars out of his own pocket to rebuild Jimmy after his rodeo accident. I doubt the Yellowstone insurance policy covered rodeo injuries suffered after work hours and not on the Yellowstone property. So...yeah, John asked him not to try to kill himself for rodeo buckles again, and if he did anyway he wasn't going to have his medical bills covered again. I find that perfectly reasonable. Mia wanted a rodeo boyfriend, even if it paralyzed Jimmy.

[BrownBear2012]

15 hours ago, Gemma Violet said:

Yes, she's getting boring and predictable.  And more and more unlikeable.  It was so mean to berate a child because he called her Mom.  I know it reminded her of her situation, but he's a child.  She didn't have to treat him like he was an adult who intentionally tried to hurt her.

Me, too.  I thought the whole thing was strange and I just didn't get it.

I thought when Beth took the photo of Jamie with the body, he'd threaten her with the gun and then smash her phone.

I thought this was the worst finale this show has ever had...the build up to it was insane...24/7 ads online and on TV about how it was going to be huge. More like wimper rather than a roar. So the big thing was Jamie killing his loser father? Beth dressing up like a high end call girl to have a showdown in a prison conjugal room? The courtroom scene? Or worse, Jimmy, of all people, has two women fist fighting over him while the best looking dude in the bunkhouse, "Ryan" has no woman? And speaking of the bunkhouse, I could do without anymore scenes of these guys playing poker and goofing on each other...way too many of those scenes this season. And the girls came back? As for Beth...I agree...she is boring, predictable and unlikeable. All the bitterness, anger and mean spirited behavior even towards a child is just depressing.

 I'm just disappointed in the trajectory of this show and the lack of any kind of realism anymore. They introduced the new boy but he's basically a slave...doesn't get paid and apparently doesn't go to school either. I don't think that would really be going on with a ranch of this size and reputation. It's obvious that Taylor Sheridan has handed over the writing reins to others and is more engaged in his other projects. They've exhausted all the plotlines that have to do with land expansion and development and other Montana centric issues. I really don't know where they go to from here...that's why they filled up so much airtime this season with rodeos and horse tricks...the 6666 plotline was really just an intro to Sheridan's latest project which will feature Jimmy as the lead actor. I'll pass on it.

[SuzieQ]

13 hours ago, Madding crowd said:

Jamie was a teenage boy who gave his sister a ride to an abortion clinic at her request. It was never said that he requested her to be sterilized or did anything but what she wanted. 

This 100%!  I hate Jaimie, but he was a kid himself.  That whole storyline is rather stupid because 20 years ago, a hysterectomy would have meant 3-4 days in hospital.  Sometimes the writing on this show is outstanding, but also the research really sucks sometimes.

Same thing with how Jaimie found out he was adopted.  There is no way he would have gotten his original birth certificate in that way, he would have gotten the revised one that's created when the adoption goes through.  As someone who is adopted, I know this for a fact.

[BrownBear2012]

38 minutes ago, Guy Incognito said:

Jimmy was an ex meth dealing knucklehead with very few positive things in his life when Mia met him.  Jimmy had finally uncovered a skill he was good at in riding bucking broncos.  All Mia did was encourage that skill and encourage Jimmy to take control of his life and not let John Dutton decide what he could and could not do.

Mia was really just someone expecting reasonable decisions from an adult.  When Jimmy got hurt, she didnt bail on him.  She stuck around during a pretty tough time in his life.  Then Jimmy left her again because John Dutton made him go to Texas, when Mia simply wanted him to go live a life with her outside of the ranch. 

Jimmy leaves for a couple of weeks, essentially becomes the person Mia wanted him to be all along, then comes back to Yellowstone and throws dirt in her face before leaving the show.  The whole storyline was odd and kind of mean to Mia for no reason.  Mia didnt even need to be at the bunkhouse when Jimmy got back.  We really didnt need to see Mia again after Jimmy left for Texas.  That's my point.

I could care less about Jimmy and his ridiculous love life.

[BrownBear2012]

4 minutes ago, SuzieQ said:

This 100%!  I hate Jaimie, but he was a kid himself.  That whole storyline is rather stupid because 20 years ago, a hysterectomy would have meant 3-4 days in hospital.  Sometimes the writing on this show is outstanding, but also the research really sucks sometimes.

Same thing with how Jaimie found out he was adopted.  There is no way he would have gotten his original birth certificate in that way, he would have gotten the revised one that's created when the adoption goes through.  As someone who is adopted, I know this for a fact.

I don't think an underage girl would have gotten a hysteroctomy either...especially a rich white girl.

[Crashcourse]

1 hour ago, Guy Incognito said:

Jimmy was an ex meth dealing knucklehead with very few positive things in his life when Mia met him.  Jimmy had finally uncovered a skill he was good at in riding bucking broncos.  All Mia did was encourage that skill and encourage Jimmy to take control of his life and not let John Dutton decide what he could and could not do.

Mia was really just someone expecting reasonable decisions from an adult.  When Jimmy got hurt, she didnt bail on him.  She stuck around during a pretty tough time in his life.  Then Jimmy left her again because John Dutton made him go to Texas, when Mia simply wanted him to go live a life with her outside of the ranch. 

Jimmy leaves for a couple of weeks, essentially becomes the person Mia wanted him to be all along, then comes back to Yellowstone and throws dirt in her face before leaving the show.  The whole storyline was odd and kind of mean to Mia for no reason.  Mia didnt even need to be at the bunkhouse when Jimmy got back.  We really didnt need to see Mia again after Jimmy left for Texas.  That's my point.

Mia hung around Jimmy because she was eating and sleeping in the bunkhouse and and enjoying being the bunkhouse bucklebunnies with Laramie.  Sure, she wanted Jimmy to live his own life away from Dutton (who paid his medical bills, btw) but the life she wanted for him was dangerous since he had already damn near killed himself.   Jimmy thought she had left, he didn't know she had come back to the bunkhouse.  He didn't throw dirt in her face, he just let her know that he had moved on.  I agree that we didn't need to see Mia again, but that wasn't Jimmy's fault.    

[BrownBear2012]

3 hours ago, KittyQ said:

The family probably has that particular spot on their GPS frequent destination list. 

I can't manage to be sure when I arrange to meet someone on purpose that I won't miss them at first, but Beth does somehow know exactly when Jamie will arrive to toss his dad's body off the cliff. I wonder how long she was sitting there in the dark.

She had super powers.

[MzLiz]

1 hour ago, BrownBear2012 said:

I don't think an underage girl would have gotten a hysteroctomy either...especially a rich white girl.

I thought in the episode the lady at the Rez clinic just said sterilization which I took as they tied her tubes. 

Edited January 3, 2022 by MzLiz
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[BrownBear2012]

15 minutes ago, MzLiz said:

I thought in the episode the lady at the Rez clinic just said sterilization which I took as they tied her tubes. 

I don’t recall but Beth keeps talking about a hysterectomy.

[jacourt]

If Beth had a hysterectomy she would have one heck of a scar. 

[tomsmom]

1. They spent WAY too much time on Summer’s legal BS. No. One. Cares.

2. Beth kidnapped a Priest….at gunpoint?? Give me a break.

3. Did Beth REALLY need to dress like that for a fake conjugal visit?

And 4. The clinic would only give Beth an abortion if they sterilized her after so why does she blame Jamie for killing Rip’s child? He didn’t drag her there.

[MBayGal]

@GuyIncognito if I could upvote your post a dozen times I would.  There were some interesting plots in the previous seasons, all of which have been dropped in favor of Taylor's egomaniac trick riding and the endless boring life of Jimmy, aka promos for Taylor's new Jimmy Show.  Even if Paramount+ paid me, I wouldn't watch his show. John fired the buckle bunnies, but doesn't have a problem with them living there now?  Beth easily arranges a conjugal visit with a total stranger? The casino just disappeared?

As for Kayce's drug trip in the freezing weather, I think the two paths were stay with Monica or move back to the ranch.  When he said he saw "the end of us," I assumed he is going back to the ranch, tho it is odd that he would leave just after finding out Monica is pregnant.  But that happened a week ago, so maybe the "writers" have forgotten it already.

[toodywoody]

What if he stays and something happens to Monica and baby because of ranch and that's the reason behind the end. 

John really needs to quit expecting everyone to kill and mangle and do all this shit to keep the ranch but his fuckgirl goes to prison and he loses his mind. 

Why oh why does Jimmy have chicks falling all over him but the other dudes don't have any women after them? Like almost everyone is better looking and has a better personality than him. Just saying. The guy that plays Jimmy must have pictures of Taylor Sheridan with goats or something

Edited January 4, 2022 by toodywoody

[kn51]

Ill be darned, Jimmy ends up smarter than us all. He found a way off the show. 

[mythoughtis]

7 hours ago, joliefaire said:

And when he told Monica he saw 'the end of us,' did that mean the end of them as a married couple, or the end of life for all of them, or...?  I hope someone has a clearer understanding of what all that meant, because I'm totally lost.

You got more than me. I played that scene twice and still couldn’t make out what he said. I gather there were two paths and he was horrified by one and we didn’t see his reaction to the other. 

[Dowel Jones]

Was it ever explained why the ME boss is so adamant about laying waste to that entire valley?  You can't sell subdivisions without attractive amenities around them.

And what was with the rationale that Mia and Laramie used for returning to the bunkhouse.  If you get fired from McDs, can you still come back and eat there?  What was that?  Yeah, you can, I guess, but you don't get to go into the kitchen or the backrooms.  The bunkhouse crew was all to ready to lap it up, anyway.

[joliefaire]

13 minutes ago, mythoughtis said:

You got more than me. I played that scene twice and still couldn’t make out what he said.

LOL, which is why I watch it with the subtitles on.  :D

[BrownBear2012]

2 hours ago, tomsmom said:

1. They spent WAY too much time on Summer’s legal BS. No. One. Cares.

2. Beth kidnapped a Priest….at gunpoint?? Give me a break.

3. Did Beth REALLY need to dress like that for a fake conjugal visit?

And 4. The clinic would only give Beth an abortion if they sterilized her after so why does she blame Jamie for killing Rip’s child? He didn’t drag her there.

Thank you for pointing these flagrant unrealistic scenes out. Especially the priest…OMG! One of the writers must be having a fling with Kelly Reilly because her character had more scenes than any of the other characters this season and the most absurd plot lines too. One of the writers had a fantasy of her dressing up in a sexy dress with a plunging neckline and super short hemline to put forth the ridiculous plot line of her conjugal visit at a state prison. 

[mledawn]

Jaime should have known what “sterilization” meant - he grew up on a livestock farm for crying out loud - but I think to say he did it “sneakily”, as someone upthread said, is unfair imo. There isn’t any indication on screen that he was malicious in this decision. He was just dumb.

Sadly the non-consensual sterilization of Indigenous women continues to this day. Certainly on a smaller scale but still yikes.

I do believe the writers are changing the “smaller” plot lines on the go.

[Pj3422]

8 hours ago, Marley said:

Oh I did not know that about Wes Bentley. Off to google him.

One other crazy thing is that ppl prefer no beans in their chilli lol. I’m sure Texas style chilli is delish but I love beans in my chilli lol. Jimmy was making me laugh at the table with his jokes tho. Actually liked him this episode. 

John and Evelyn were horrible parents. 

I laughed out loud at that part. I live in Texas, so I’m verrrrrrry familiar with the beans vs. no beans debate. But I’d really love to see them argue about Cincinnati five-way chili. 

Now if they would just get rid of the buckle bunnies and the kids. 

(Sorry — I should’ve segued better between   pots of chili and getting rid of characters. I’m not proposing cannibalism.)

 

Edited January 4, 2022 by Pj3422

[BrownBear2012]

55 minutes ago, mledawn said:

Jaime should have known what “sterilization” meant - he grew up on a livestock farm for crying out loud - but I think to say he did it “sneakily”, as someone upthread said, is unfair imo. There isn’t any indication on screen that he was malicious in this decision. He was just dumb.

Sadly the non-consensual sterilization of Indigenous women continues to this day. Certainly on a smaller scale but still yikes.

I do believe the writers are changing the “smaller” plot lines on the go.

You forget…Jamie was groomed to be a lawyer…he barely spent anytime with the livestock and bunkhouse boys.

[mledawn]

32 minutes ago, BrownBear2012 said:

You forget…Jamie was groomed to be a lawyer…he barely spent anytime with the livestock and bunkhouse boys.

No, Jaime was groomed to be a lawyer once it came time to decide if he was going to school or stay on the ranch. He was blindsided by John's decree. Jamie spent his formative years on the ranch. It would take a colossal amount of creativity and dedication to live on a working livestock farm and not learn anything about livestock. And Jamie *wanted* to stay on the ranch.

Edited January 4, 2022 by mledawn

[madmax]

That was a big waste of a finale.  Not a whole lot happening at all, and what did happen was pretty damn ridiculous.

Now that Jimmy's made his choice, can we be done with him?  For good?

 

 

[Marley]

Deleted post - repetitive 

Edited January 4, 2022 by Marley

[BrownBear2012]

3 hours ago, toodywoody said:

What if he stays and something happens to Monica and baby because of ranch and that's the reason behind the end. 

John really needs to quit expecting everyone to kill and mangle and do all this shit to keep the ranch but his fuckgirl goes to prison and he loses his mind. 

Why oh why does Jimmy have chicks falling all over him but the other dudes don't have any women after them? Like almost everyone is better looking and has a better personality than him. Just saying. The guy that plays Jimmy must have pictures of Taylor Sheridan with goats or something

LOL!!! I said the same thing in an earlier post...this guy, who seems nice enough but is not exactly a smokin' hot guy, has two good looking women fist fighting over him but the others, in particular "Ryan" who is hot, have no women? The Jimmy character seemed to be the main character this season along with Beth...maybe the guy that plays Jimmy and the actress that plays Beth both caught Taylor Sheridan with one of the livestock on the show.

1 hour ago, madmax said:

That was a big waste of a finale.  Not a whole lot happening at all, and what did happen was pretty damn ridiculous.

Now that Jimmy's made his choice, can we be done with him?  For good?

 

 

Agree...worst season finale so far of this show. Waste of two hours. I'm sure they will inundate us next season with special "sneak previews" of 6666 inserted into every episode.

[BrownBear2012]

9 hours ago, WatcherUatl10 said:

Good LORD! And, because Beth needs to make dramatic exits, she just leaves when she wants to. What if he'd killed her and just decided to walk out on his own? They don't have a safeguard for that? Epstein was better guarded!

  I like Beth as a character, in that she's damaged, and we know it, but she usually does interesting things that sort of make sense. This season not so much. I want NoTSallyStruthers to take her down as well. Maybe she and Summer can share a cell....

   The coincidence of the barrel racers being back just as Jimmy arrives made my eyes roll, and then John comes down to the bunkhouse to check on the "horse", and I could have sworn he said "whores" which made me laugh.

 Silly finale with some great photography. And Kayce's "quest" reminded me of my druggy days and got me looking up old Duran Duran on YouTube.

Kayce's acid trip was like...Huh? WTF was that about?? 

[Lady Jane]

8 hours ago, SuzieQ said:

This 100%!  I hate Jaimie, but he was a kid himself.  That whole storyline is rather stupid because 20 years ago, a hysterectomy would have meant 3-4 days in hospital.  

 

6 hours ago, BrownBear2012 said:

I don’t recall but Beth keeps talking about a hysterectomy.

Do we know it was a hysterectomy for sure? Certainly Beth never having a period after age 15 would certainly been noticed

[BrownBear2012]

4 minutes ago, Lady Jane said:

 

Do we know it was a hysterectomy for sure? Certainly Beth never having a period after age 15 would certainly been noticed

With these writers you just don't know what the hell is going on from script to script. Maybe they need a woman or two on the writing team to educate them on the difference between an abortion and a hysterectomy.

[MBayGal]

4 hours ago, Pj3422 said:

I live in Texas, so I’m verrrrrrry familiar with the beans vs. no beans debate. B

My DH clapped and hooted when someone said real chili has no beans.  He's from the Midwest but went to college in Texas and takes BBQ and chili quite seriously.  No beans in his chili ever!

[kn51]

5 hours ago, BrownBear2012 said:

Kayce's acid trip was like...Huh? WTF was that about?? 

That's the way this whole season has been.  It's just a bunch of footage taken at different times and edited by a blind person in a drunken stupor.

Show three minutes short this week?  No problem, yank some random rodeo stuff off of youtube and splice it in.  It just bounces around from one absurd situation to the next with no overall arc of common sense.  Fighting over Jimmy.  A vision quest.  Kidnapping a priest.  Bunkhouse chat.  State vs. enviro-terrorist.  More Beth shenanigans.

All in all it makes you think...what ideas were brought up that didn't make the cut.

 

 

[Tatum]

7 hours ago, Lady Jane said:

 

Do we know it was a hysterectomy for sure? Certainly Beth never having a period after age 15 would certainly been noticed

I thought she said hysterectomy, but I could be wrong. But I am not sure John would have noticed regardless. Based on the few comments Beth has made about her mid/later teen years, John wasn't paying attention to much. Didn't she reference giving a high school classmate a handjob during church (like, actually out in the open, during the service), when she was talking to the rival casino boys? Sounds like Beth had a habit of acting out after her mother died (whether it was giving out handies or throwing tantrums at the dinner table and stomping off) and John just shrugged it off. Lee lived at his own house and worked all day, Jamie would have been in school, and Kayce was probably too busy trying to get into teenage Monica's pants to notice his sister's cycles. Beth not having a period after age 15 and this going unnoticed is probably the most realistic part of this whole nonsensical storyline!

 

I do think we are supposed to assume Jamie did know that Beth would be sterilized- and he knew what that meant-, and he chose not to tell her because he was worried she wouldn't go through with it if she knew. That is totally inconsistent with Jamie's character so far, that he would be invested one way or the other in what Beth did with her pregnancy (he wasn't living at home, Beth didn't get pregnant on his watch, he was going back to school and wouldn't have had to deal with the whispers, and anyways,  in the late 1990s a pregnant teenager was hardly eyebrow raising, and John certainly had enough money to alleviate any issues with raising a baby while still in school)- I mean there is zero reason Jamie would have cared one way or another what Beth did, certainly not enough to hide pertinent information so not to influence her choice. If anything, Jamie is the kind of person who would like it when one of his siblings fucked up so he looked better in comparison.

[SuzieQ]

16 hours ago, Lady Jane said:

 

Do we know it was a hysterectomy for sure? Certainly Beth never having a period after age 15 would certainly been noticed

One would think!!  And the fact that she had no idea?  Or never saw a gynecologist ever?  I know John was a tone deaf father, but the fact that all this comes to light in her 30's goes way beyond any normal suspension of belief you take into consideration for a television show.

Edited January 4, 2022 by SuzieQ

[bichonblitz]

20 hours ago, Crashcourse said:

I noticed that Wes Bentley was getting thinner, and I hope he's ok.  I didn't know about his past issues.

https://www.celebheights.com/s/Wes-Bentley-1428.html

A pic of a healthier looking Wes. Hope he's ok, too. 

[bunnyface]

14 hours ago, toodywoody said:

Why oh why does Jimmy have chicks falling all over him but the other dudes don't have any women after them? Like almost everyone is better looking and has a better personality than him. Just saying. The guy that plays Jimmy must have pictures of Taylor Sheridan with goats or something

No kidding.  There are a couple of guys there I would climb like a spider monkey if given half a chance.  Jimmy isn't one of those.

 

13 hours ago, Pj3422 said:

(Sorry — I should’ve segued better between   pots of chili and getting rid of characters. I’m not proposing cannibalism.)

 

Hey, as long as there are no beans....

 

I read somewhere else that there was some question about whether *Beth* knew if she had a tubal ligation or a hysterectomy.  I wondering how anyone could think *SHE* wouldn't know the difference?  lol  She'd know!

[Tatum]

2 hours ago, SuzieQ said:

One would think!!  And the fact that she had no idea?  Or never say a gynecologist ever?  I know John was a tone deaf father, but the fact that all this comes to light in her 30's goes way beyond any normal suspension of belief you take into consideration for a television show.

Wait what? I haven't watched this episode yet...did they say Beth only realized she was sterile in her 30s? I figured she'd found out soon after the procedure was over, she just didn't tell her father about it until recently.

[blackwing]

On 1/2/2022 at 8:57 PM, MzLiz said:

I’m not sure I totally understood all the Kayce stuff with the Wolf and what the 2 paths were.  I’m gonna have to re-watch those parts

What an awful finale.  What an awful season.  All season long, I have been waiting for 1) an explosive resolution to the "who tried to kill the Duttons" cliffhanger from last season finale and 2) some sort of takedown of Silver Hair and Market Equities.  Instead... an extremely long season of filler.  Bio Dad gets killed in the last 15 minutes.  And no resolution with Silver Hair.

I fastforward Jimmy on sight, and I think I fastforwarded at least a third of the show.  When did Jimmy become the lead actor?  I really do hope he is gone for good.  He was by far the worst part of the season.  I disliked him even before this season.  His Sad Sack Jimmy "awshucks I ain't good at nothin" routine wore on me over the previous three seasons.  This season he got elevated to Lead Actor and has women fighting over him.  WT actual F.

I fastforwarded through a lot of Kayce's whatever that was as well.  I did catch a glimpse of Lee and rewound.  Great to see Lee.  Too bad they killed him off in the first episode.  I think this show would have been a lot more tolerable with Lee.  I don't know who the spirit girl at the end of his vision was, and I don't think I care enough to find out.

22 hours ago, Guy Incognito said:

Good riddance to the worst season of this series by far!  What a disappointment this was when it started with so much potential.  After episode 1 that delivered on the resolution of the Cliff Hanger with the big shootout, literally NOTHING HAPPENED.  Episode after episode of nothing, unless you count the massive time spent trying to spinoff two other shows.  So many things wrong with this season, but I have to list the one's that really irked me:

 

1) After the events of last seasons finale with all of the Duttons attacked, we learn who the mastermind was a couple of episodes in and literally nothing comes of that story until the last 15 minutes of the finale.  The audience knows what Jamie's dad did, but has to sit there and watch horses do tricks and 1883 segments with no relation to the main storylines for like 8 weeks.

2) Remember when the Cattle Barons were going to back Kayce for Governor?  I do.  What the heck happened to that?  Did Kayce even show up to work as the Livestock Commissioner the last month?  The last time he actually referenced that job was when he was terrorizing the CA guy for not letting cattle cross his land.  I guess those Cattle Owners stopped being political this season?

3) Remember when Jimmy had a broken back?  I do.  What the heck happened to that?  Jimmy literally had to wear a neck brace until Taylor Sheridan told him he couldnt ride in his truck with it on, so then his neck was magically healed and we never heard about the problem again.  

4) Speaking of Jimmy, it's bad enough we had to endure entire segments of Jimmy in Texas for the sole purpose of backdooring another spinoff into this show,but man, we are supposed to believe his couple of weeks there "made him a cowboy"?  How?  What the heck did Jimmy do at the 6666 that turned him into a cowboy?  He jerked off a horse. practiced some roping one night, then started banging the only female near his age within 50 miles, and had a couple of long rides across the plains.  Where did all this growth come from?  We literally did not see him do anything that would imply growth as a cowboy.

And BTW, as much as I disliked the Mia storyline (especially in the bunkhouse), that girl was there for him when he was paralyzed the first time.  She nursed him back to health, stood by him, gave him some lovin', and was quite frankly way out of his league.  He got over her pretty damn quick considering the Vet from 6666 basically told him that he was the only available male choice around for miles. I guess that trumped getting him through a broken back.

5) Speaking of Mia in the bunkhouse, remember when the Girls all got thrown out of the Bunkhouse?  I do.  It was kind of a big deal and all with the whole Walker and Wade thing.  Like 2 episodes later they are all back in the bunkhouse at night like nothing ever happened.  I mean, I get Teeter after pleading with John Dutton, but the blond and Mia were both back in there all the time like nothing ever happened.  And why was Mia even still around after Jimmy left?  Just so we could see another scene in the finale where Jimmy shits on her again before leaving?  WTF?

6) Hey Market Equities lady, what exactly did you hire Beth for?  For that matter, what did you fire her for?  It appeared Beth did a tell all type interview with a newspaper. but they never really explained it in detail.  That couldnt have just been an article about the protest.  I never got the logic of bringing in the old lady to hire Beth in the first place, but then she pretty much did nothing all season until coming in at the end to fire Beth.  Uhhh, ok, I guess you're a tough old lady?  Good for you.  Now go do something to improve the story.

7) Does the Reservation folks and Rainwater even care about the Dutton land anymore?  Doesn't seem like they are doing much anymore on that front.  Does Rainwater even run the Casino anymore? Dude is out more with Kayce doing vision quests or John solving mysteries than running his Casino. 

I always thought the end game with this show was the merging of the Dutton land with the Tribal people in some kind of alliance through Kayce and specifically Tate as a way to preserve it from Market Equities.  Seemed like a natural way to save the Ranch forever but also get Rainwater and his people what they wanted, since the Duttons are now married into and a part of the tribe through Tate.  I didnt see anything this season that would lead the show down that path, but maybe I need a Vision Quest like Kayce to see that.  

This show needs to rethink its direction.  Less spinoff time next year, more land dispute drama.  Less time with Tate in a bathtub and more about how the Dutton's and the Tribe can outsmart Market Equities. 

See ya next season...

Agree with all of this.

16 hours ago, kn51 said:

Ill be darned, Jimmy ends up smarter than us all. He found a way off the show. 

Since Jimmy appears to have been one of the chief complaints of the season from many, I'd say it's a well-deserved release.  I'm not convinced he is permanently gone.  I am curious about what the viewership numbers for 6666 will look like.  If they are banking on Jimmy carrying the show, good luck.  It will get cancelled and he will be back on Yellowstone before we know it.

[roughing it]

1 hour ago, blackwing said:

Since Jimmy appears to have been one of the chief complaints of the season from many, I'd say it's a well-deserved release.  I'm not convinced he is permanently gone.  I am curious about what the viewership numbers for 6666 will look like.  If they are banking on Jimmy carrying the show, good luck.  It will get cancelled and he will be back on Yellowstone before we know it.

Well, both John and Rip told him if things didn't go well for him at 6666 then he was always welcome back at the Yellowstone.  So I take that to mean, if the show "6666" doesn't make it, Jimmy will be back on "Yellowstone". 

Anyway, throughout this season 4 of Yellowstone, we've already watched season 1 of 6666.

[Crashcourse]

I don't mind Jimmy but I don't want him back at Yellowstone because that would probably mean he and Emily broke up, and I don't want him back with Mia.

[mythoughtis]

3 hours ago, blackwing said:

What an awful finale.  What an awful season.  All season long, I have been waiting for 1) an explosive resolution to the "who tried to kill the Duttons" cliffhanger from last season finale and 2) some sort of takedown of Silver Hair and Market Equities.  Instead... an extremely long season of filler.  Bio Dad gets killed in the last 15 minutes.  And no resolution with Silver Hair.

I fastforward Jimmy on sight, and I think I fastforwarded at least a third of the show.  When did Jimmy become the lead actor?  I really do hope he is gone for good.  He was by far the worst part of the season.  I disliked him even before this season.  His Sad Sack Jimmy "awshucks I ain't good at nothin" routine wore on me over the previous three seasons.  This season he got elevated to Lead Actor and has women fighting over him.  WT actual F.

I fastforwarded through a lot of Kayce's whatever that was as well.  I did catch a glimpse of Lee and rewound.  Great to see Lee.  Too bad they killed him off in the first episode.  I think this show would have been a lot more tolerable with Lee.  I don't know who the spirit girl at the end of his vision was, and I don't think I care enough to find out.

Agree with all of this.

Since Jimmy appears to have been one of the chief complaints of the season from many, I'd say it's a well-deserved release.  I'm not convinced he is permanently gone.  I am curious about what the viewership numbers for 6666 will look like.  If they are banking on Jimmy carrying the show, good luck.  It will get cancelled and he will be back on Yellowstone before we know it.

It wasn’t really Jimmy that bothered me - all that much.  It was everything that had to do with 6666 or 1883.  The rodeo, the horses, the trick moves.  Tyler Sheridan’s character, the 15 minutes of Yellowstone vs 45 minutes of back door pilots.   It has been one of the most blatant pushing of new shows via the one I sat down to watch.  And it ruined this entire season