Michael and Juliana: She's Not! a Prostitute

[iwasish]

On 12/19/2019 at 6:57 PM, BradandJanet said:

I bet the producers handed him the shirts and told him to wear them. Nothing better than faux rich people in bad clothing. 

Juliana, the international model with the fancy wardrobe couldn’t use some of her modeling cash to buy her boyfriend some new clothes (that just happen to fit)? 

 

[Gobi]

5 minutes ago, iwasish said:

Juliana, the international model with the fancy wardrobe couldn’t use some of her modeling cash to buy her boyfriend some new clothes (that just happen to fit)? 

 

My guess is that he gained weight (maybe as a result of the divorce) and has convinced himself that he is going to lose it, thus will not buy new clothes. He might even see ill-fitting clothes as a motivational tool.

Edited December 23, 2019 by Gobi

[iwasish]

11 hours ago, Christina said:

Once again, I'm posting something I haven't listened to, but Sarah went on IG Live, said everything and everyone is great and the whole prenush was from production. She's also absolutely NOT high or drunk, just nervous.

It's fourteen minutes, I'm just not able to listen at the moment.

 

She’s a supposed big time contractor running a business but she doesn’t  have the balls to stand up to the producers and say that she’s not comfortable asking or better, refuse to ask questions about a pre nup agreement. And I hope you were joking about her not being drunk or high because if she’s that “nervous” speaking on camera, she needs to stay the fuck off it. She comes across as a fool. She and Michael are a perfect pair. 

I couldn’t  even listen to the whole thing, only got about a third thru it. 
 

Fast forwarded to nearer the end and she’s clearly promoting her hubby’s music along with some musical stuff Michael did back in college and is now being used as part of her new husbands  recording. So she has a big agenda to appear on the show and get exposure for them. 

Edited December 23, 2019 by iwasish

[BradandJanet]

5 hours ago, Sterling said:

Ugh, Michael, I'm starting a petition....please donate all your shirts and get thee to Macy's mens department, stat.

As the inimitable Joan Rivers said, "Just because it zips, doesn't mean it fits".

That blue button up shirt that doesn't button is either nylon or polyester. It looks like something out of a mafia movie. Maybe Juliana should go shopping with him, or take his credit card and buy him a few things while she builds her own wardrobe. 

[Starlight925]

1 hour ago, BradandJanet said:

That blue button up shirt that doesn't button is either nylon or polyester. It looks like something out of a mafia movie. Maybe Juliana should go shopping with him, or take his credit card and buy him a few things while she builds her own wardrobe. 

He can drop Juliana off in the little girls department so she can top off her wardrobe while he shops.

[HunterHunted]

On 12/16/2019 at 7:37 PM, Armchair Critic said:

You are right, people with real money usually avoid putting their private life on display.

Counterpoint, the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, which mystified viewers because these women had actual money. The wealthiest was Adrienne Maloof whose family was worth more than a billion dollars. She was on primarily to advertise her family's hotel and casino, the Palms, their NBA team, the Sacramento Kings, and her husband's plastic surgery adjacent businesses. The was also Camille Grammer. Her participation mystified viewers until the end of the first season when we came to understand that Kelsey pushed Camille's participation so he could cheat on her while she was otherwise occupied and establish an income source for her so he didn't have to give her as much money in their inevitable divorce. It's become a verb among Real Housewives viewers. We now speak about wives being "Kelseyed." It's happened at least 3 other times. Yolanda Hadid Foster's participation on the show also mystified viewers until we came to understand that she was using the show to help make her daughters, Gigi and Bella Hadid, supermodels.

Michael, Sarah, and Juliana's issue is that they are working with a Bravo brief on a TLC show. It's not unusual for people to go on Bravo and expose parts of their personal life in order to build or grow a business. Bethenny Frankel did it to sell premixed margaritas for $120 million. Lisa Vanderpump did it to sell millions in mediocre wine and get people to come to her mediocre restaurants. It's a little more rare on TLC that someone is super explicit about monetizing their fame and notoriety right from jump. 

Though I don't think I've seen a cohort who is as focused on using this tv opportunity to advertise and build businesses quite like this group. There is Anna and Mursel's bee and honey business, Tania and Syngin's soap and earthy whatever business, Blake's record label, Michael's wine business, Sarah's construction, and Juliana's modeling.

[RealReality]

3 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

Counterpoint, the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, which mystified viewers because these women had actual money. The wealthiest was Adrienne Maloof whose family was worth more than a billion dollars. She was on primarily to advertise her family's hotel and casino, the Palms, their NBA team, the Sacramento Kings, and her husband's plastic surgery adjacent businesses. The was also Camille Grammer. Her participation mystified viewers until the end of the first season when we came to understand that Kelsey pushed Camille's participation so he could cheat on her while she was otherwise occupied and establish an income source for her so he didn't have to give her as much money in their inevitable divorce. It's become a verb among Real Housewives viewers. We now speak about wives being "Kelseyed." It's happened at least 3 other times. Yolanda Hadid Foster's participation on the show also mystified viewers until we came to understand that she was using the show to help make her daughters, Gigi and Bella Hadid, supermodels.

Michael, Sarah, and Juliana's issue is that they are working with a Bravo brief on a TLC show. It's not unusual for people to go on Bravo and expose parts of their personal life in order to build or grow a business. Bethenny Frankel did it to sell premixed margaritas for $120 million. Lisa Vanderpump did it to sell millions in mediocre wine and get people to come to her mediocre restaurants. It's a little more rare on TLC that someone is super explicit about monetizing their fame and notoriety right from jump. 

Though I don't think I've seen a cohort who is as focused on using this tv opportunity to advertise and build businesses quite like this group. There is Anna and Mursel's bee and honey business, Tania and Syngin's soap and earthy whatever business, Blake's record label, Michael's wine business, Sarah's construction, and Juliana's modeling.

I see a difference between the 90DF franchise and the RH franchise.  

The RH franchise features a "permanent" cast roster (though people get fired/leave whatever).  This means that they can build a fanbase and they have some power to make the creation or the sale of their product an integral part of their storyline.  

Also, the basis of the RH is that everyone is rich and "classy" or whatever.  

Contrast to the 90DF franchise, where these people are on for a season and there are few opportunities to build a loyal fan base or even make your product a part of the storyline.  The storyline is always going to primarily be "your fucked up relationship"

Because they are one season players the participants have no leverage or negotiation power to ensure that their business or product development are integral to their story line.  

So far the only one who has maybe even approached any success with that has been Anna.  She can tangentially talk about her business because it's part of the relationship between her and mursel.  

But no one has launched or furthered their modelling career/acting career or any business based off this show.  This isn't even love and hip hop where you could get a cardi b or Remy ma success story.  

I can't fathom why people still think this show is going to do great things for any career.  

[gigiann]

On 11/6/2019 at 2:41 PM, shockermolar said:

I asked my 21 year old son, who is my partner in 90DF watching crime, if Juliana is hot. He said, "I don't get it. She has the body of a 15 year old boy. Was he looking for that cause I thought all the old rich guys were after tits and ass. But I guess he can buy that for her once she gets here." And I cried a little over how well I have raised my son. 

Good Job Mom!!!!

[charmed1]

CT Michael spent Christmas in Indiana. Max has an Instagram account and is responding to online bullies. I really wish the kids were not on this show.

 

[RealReality]

1 hour ago, charmed1 said:

CT Michael spent Christmas in Indiana. Max has an Instagram account and is responding to online bullies. I really wish the kids were not on this show.

 

FFS.  I get that you can't protect a kid and bullies are everywhere....but why?  

I really feel for Max.....what a shitshow.  People will for sure dress up their assholery as some sort of concern for his wellbeing.....but fat shaming a kid can easily lead to unhealthy lifestyle habits that last a lifetime.  

[Drogo]

Meh, I don't think Max is too fat, and I don't think Julianna's too thin.  Everyone's fine. 

Except Michael.  Michael's a turd blossom. 

[charmed1]

I haven’t seen Max respond to anyone who has commented on his weight, although his parents have. He did respond to someone who commented that it was such a small Christmas tree and small amount of gifts for a rich guy. And he responded to someone who said they hoped he didn’t end up like his dad. 

His parents need to shut his social media down or at least make his page private. He seems like a happy and well adjusted little kid and I know all it takes is one comment from some asshole to turn that completely around. He’s in a band and he’s a lineman on his football team. I personally find it creepy for adults to correspond directly with non-related children on social media. I don’t even follow the kids from Stranger Things. I know some of these trolls may be kids themselves, but for the sake of Max and Cece, I hope they don’t appear on the show again.

[Mrs. Hanson]

6 hours ago, charmed1 said:

He did respond to someone who commented that it was such a small Christmas tree and small amount of gifts for a rich guy.

I would clap back and say I am giving my kids the gift of moderation as kids who get everything appreciate nothing but thanks for putting your opinion out there.

[RealReality]

I agree @charmed1 - just shut down the public social media for a minute.  What's the harm?  Kids have so many ways to connect these days, does he really need to be in contact with the world?  

No one wants to hear that their dad is a drunken controlling turd who wears too tight shirts and rides around in a bro limo.  

I sure hope they aren't contemplating some Hollywood/reality show career for him. 

[ALittleShelfish]

4 minutes ago, RealReality said:

I sure hope they aren't contemplating some Hollywood/reality show career for him. 

I have no doubt they are.  Sadly.  

[iwasish]

2 hours ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

I would clap back and say I am giving my kids the gift of moderation as kids who get everything appreciate nothing but thanks for putting your opinion out there.

I  agree totally with regard to the kids. I  tend to think that Michael is not programmed to be extravagant as a rule. IMO his fancy cars and newly purchased expensive house are directly related to his relationship with Juliana and his desperation to impress her and appear as a rich and generous partner. She’s mentioned several times how he reassured her that he will always take care of her and every time they discuss money and particularly her having independent access to his money (the credit card) Michael gets obviously  nervous and uncomfortable. Julianas digs about him being “mean” about money and threats to break up with her IMO reveal that he is trying to find out her true motive in being with him. Deep Inside I think he well knows she’s in it for the money,  He may be trying to figure out just how little he needs to keep her. 

[Frozendiva]

Wonder if Michael just made a modest salary, whether Juliana would want him.

Someone taking care of you comes at a price you may not be willing to pay for a long time. She may find someone else a bit younger and more attractive who has *more* money. The initial motivation or question is why this young girl wants me and wants to be with me? Granted, I haven't seen his sense of humour or any sort of kindness from him - just a bunch of look at me type possessions.

[Christina]

This couple and Sarah are taking quite the beating online. They are being called out on the rapidly changing stories and instead of clarifying the discrepancies, when it's just a misunderstanding (there have been a few things that I think are just misunderstood and not frauding), they are arguing back and blaming editing. All castmembers do it, but they didn't think they were going to come off anywhere near as badly as they are because it's not their truth. [The only person I think has really handled the negativity well is Tiffany; she expected it and just ignores most of it.]

In this IG of Sarah's, she makes several comments that I will cut and paste into the quote box below.

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= Someone said something nice about her co-parenting relationship with Michael and she responded

Keathy76 - omg...I am truly moved by your words. I don’t know what to say because I’m so humbled by your love. It takes more courage to love and accept than it does to be bitter and isolating. Keep living your life with love. I really try to always make decisions with love. I am not perfect by any means...but I try, I really try. Having @michael_jessen_77 @julianacustodiooo @maxwell.jessen @the_real_naso and cece in my tribe makes is much easier. I’m so happy that my life is being used to lift others up. That’s all I’ve ever wanted to do.

= Someone asked why she brought up the prenup and she responded

Keathy76 - first of all let me tell you that the producers lied to my face in various ways throughout the filming. I could go on and on about that but I will address the prenup here. The producer told me that Michael and Juliana knew that I was going to ask them about the prenup. They did not know. I was super uncomfortable and confused as to why they would suggest asking about a prenup. If you look at my body language and facial expressions when I brought it up you can see how uncomfortable I was. I knew that @michael_jessen_77 would never get one because he is sure of his and @julianacustodiooo love and commitment to one another. And I know a prenup is inconsistent with his character and integrity. I am very very happy that they did not get one. Thank you for asking! Seriously! The prenup storyline was completely scripted and manufactured.

leeenzs -  wow! Thank you for your detailed reply. It did seem super random when you brought it up and you did look surprised they hadn’t talked about it. So you brought it up bc they asked you to you didn’t think they needed one? I can see how you would want to make sure the kids were taken care of but that could be done with trusts so the prenup did seem kind of out of place for you to ask! So makes sense if they made you ask I didn’t realize they could influence the cast like that..

keathley76 - yes, they use deceit to create drama when there isn’t any. Bell well!

leeenzs - wow is that really legal on their part ? That’s crazy!!!

keathley76 - there is probably some fine print in the contracts I signed that say they will do this but I didn’t check. I prefer to look in someone’s eye and take their word for it. My mistake!

kaylerato.a - Do people watch this show particularly prior to agreeing to go on it? What did you expect people would say?

keathley76 - whether we had watched the show or not before is irrelevant. Do you support these vile words? Or think they are any less hurtful just because we are on “reality show”? Producers made promises and lied to our faces about how they would portray us. We agreed to be on the show based on those promises and yet TLC and Sharp entertainment cut and edited our words and actions in a deceptive and inaccurate way. So viewers are passing judgement and being cruel based on inaccuracies. Not exactly fair or helpful to anyone.

kaylerato.a - No one said they werent hurtful however by watching previous seasons, it is clear that your life is open to interpretation and commentary whether positive or not.

 

She also said she wasn't being paid for the show and she, Michael. and Juliana respond to the nice comments. I thought I saw one from Max, too, but don't see it now.

Sarah and her husband then had Christmas dinner with some fans and received a lot of praise for being "sweet" but other people are calling her out on courting fans. She explained in a comment that they were going to be in LA already and Sarah offered to meet with her. 

A bunch of negative comments must have been removed because they are not there now. She probably banned them so they disappeared from her feed. The negatives were based on her comments like these:

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keathley76 - awe thank you. I’m trying really hard to bring joy to all those who need it. I actually love when people mention their location. Because I never dreamed and I am absolutely floored that my life is being used to make people smile all over the world. Seriously it’s quite overwhelming in a good way.

keathley76 - wow. Thank you so very much. I guess there’s a fine line between selfish and selfless. Did I post this because I thought people would compliment me? Or did I post it to inspire others?. I pray that my intentions always and only are for the latter.

 

Sarah also made a response in one of Juliana's posts, but I'm going to add it here because I need to step away from my computer for a bit and post some of the Juliana posts and hate later.

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keathley76 - It floor me that there are so many people contemplating and posting comments about our family. Spending time getting their feelings and opinions out in the open. Even the hate tells me someone feels some kind of way about me. I have received several messages from folks who started out hating but the more they watched and followed, the more she she was able to look in the mirror. She confessed to me that she passed unjust judgement and now love our family. I WANT the opportunity to show others a better way. So I ask you all kindly to use your life and words to build people up instead of tearing people down @julianacustodiooo be well and love well, your heart will feel so much better.

keathley76 - Jugi, don’t pay attention to the hating trolls. The people who know you and know your story are the only ones who matter. You don’t need to defend yourself. Love you! @julianacustodiooo

I can understand why it would be odd and frustrating to suddenly have strangers discussing you and your life and wondering why they are spending time on it, but it really doesn't take much time to look at a photo and make a comment. Watching the show is nearly a part-time job lately, but talking trash is quick and easy. It took me more time to cut and paste here and I only did it because the screencaps don't want to load for me (It IS under .98MB dammit!) and I appreciate when people do it on the Teen Mom forums so I don't have to click through to another site.

In my opinion, there is also not an excuse to send nastygrams directly to the castmembers. Join a site like this or other social media and say whatever the hell you want but to tag and direct hateful comments is, well hateful and nasty. 

[Frozendiva]

There is no “my” truth. Truth is truth and facts. People do interpret things according to their own bias and other reasons. And yes, people do judge and judge some more. Hating online is easy, but there are many people who willed nasty in person too.

Maybe people do notice that the facts don’t really add up and are not consistent - the story changes each week.

She keeps the flames burning on social media and is probably enjoying every single second of attention she gets. If not, do not engage with others.

[RealReality]

1 hour ago, Frozendiva said:

There is no “my” truth. Truth is truth and facts. People do interpret things according to their own bias and other reasons. And yes, people do judge and judge some more. Hating online is easy, but there are many people who willed nasty in person too.

Maybe people do notice that the facts don’t really add up and are not consistent - the story changes each week.

She keeps the flames burning on social media and is probably enjoying every single second of attention she gets. If not, do not engage with others.

Sarah is like everyone else.  She only wants the benefits of being on the show but is unwilling to accept the negatives.  

I find that sort of outlook annoying and childish.  

Also, no pity if she was stupid enough to have watched previous seasons and thought she was some special case because someone "promised" her something.  GTFOH with that nonsense.  And then that suddenly excuses her from any responsibility for reading the contract?  

So, she knew this show was Trainwreck TV, but thought that producers were going to treat her as some uplifting story even though the show almost NEVER does that?  Because someone promised her?

[Frozendiva]

People are supposed to read a contract before signing.

[iwasish]

2 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

People are supposed to read a contract before signing.

If I understand my TV judges correctly, a contract must offer each party to the contract something, “In exchange for X from party 1, party 2 will do Y “ So what exactly is Sarah getting , if she isn’t being paid? And if she isn’t paid or receiving something, then there is no contract and she can refuse to appear on camera and/or refuse to participate on the show. The whole story of the pre nush discussion makes no sense. If Michael had no interest in getting one, why is he talking about it, taking Juliana to see a mediator, and  going thru all that angst for nothing.  I don’t believe a word Sarah says, she’s loving this whole mess. I’m betting she’s glued to all these websites all day long. From the couple videos I’ve seen of her, she’s pretty well drunk in most of them. 

 

[mamadrama]

Juliana walking the bridal show in London last spring:

 

 

[RealReality]

1 hour ago, iwasish said:

If I understand my TV judges correctly, a contract must offer each party to the contract something, “In exchange for X from party 1, party 2 will do Y “ So what exactly is Sarah getting , if she isn’t being paid? And if she isn’t paid or receiving something, then there is no contract and she can refuse to appear on camera and/or refuse to participate on the show. The whole story of the pre nush discussion makes no sense. If Michael had no interest in getting one, why is he talking about it, taking Juliana to see a mediator, and  going thru all that angst for nothing.  I don’t believe a word Sarah says, she’s loving this whole mess. I’m betting she’s glued to all these websites all day long. From the couple videos I’ve seen of her, she’s pretty well drunk in most of them. 

 

There has to be consideration....it both parties getting the benefit of getting something or getting the other person to give up something.  

Consideration doesn't have to be equal though.  There is some famous case from back in the 1800s wherein a judge wrote that "a mere peppercorn" would be sufficient consideration.  

In this case, Sarah got the chance for national TV exposure, or perhaps she contracted for nothing but the kids got some $$.  Maybe there was some future opportunity that would be open to her or potentially open to her.  

Either way, her whining is ridiculous and annoying.  Whoever said that she thinks she is somehow better and deserving of special treatment was right.  

[iwasish]

58 minutes ago, mamadrama said:

Juliana walking the bridal show in London last spring:

 

 

My 9 yr old niece does “runway” with more life and charisma than Juliana.  She looks like she’d rather be anywhere else but there.  Maybe Michael pulled in some favors to get her in the show ?

[Elizzikra]

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I knew that @michael_jessen_77 would never get one because he is sure of his and @julianacustodiooo love and commitment to one another. And I know a prenup is inconsistent with his character and integrity. I am very very happy that they did not get one. 

This pisses me off. My husband and I have a prenup and I don't think we are uncertain of our love or lacking in character and integrity. Prenups are just smart. Most couples don't head down the aisle anticipating that their marriages will end in divorce but they often do. Particularly if one or both parties has children, prenups are just smart. 

[gameshowjunkie]

The adults chose to go on this show, so I don't have much sympathy for them. They had to know how they would be portrayed - an older guy who supposedly has money(although why anyone with money would put themselves on reality TV makes no sense to me) and a young Brazilian model. I certainly wouldn't go attacking anyone on social media but have no issue mocking them on sites like this.

The kids, however, should be left alone. They didn't sign up for this. They seem like nice, funny, down to earth kids as well. Anyone going after them on SM is a douche.

[iwasish]

2 hours ago, gameshowjunkie said:

The adults chose to go on this show, so I don't have much sympathy for them. They had to know how they would be portrayed - an older guy who supposedly has money(although why anyone with money would put themselves on reality TV makes no sense to me) and a young Brazilian model. I certainly wouldn't go attacking anyone on social media but have no issue mocking them on sites like this.

The kids, however, should be left alone. They didn't sign up for this. They seem like nice, funny, down to earth kids as well. Anyone going after them on SM is a douche.

But they shouldn’t allow their kids access to SM period. My guess is they’re the type parents who think their kids are so special and mature that they can handle the shit storm  that SM can become. They also want to convince themselves that their own behavior isn’t doing any damage to the kids. But Those two kids are seeing and hearing way too much adult stuff. 

[Christina]

I am never going to get caught up on all this drama. It's so convoluted and people keep deleting things. 

From the moment Michael did his intro, talking about his "cool watch." I saw my con artist uncle in him and cannot shake the thought that he is a fraud. It's part of the reason I think that Sarah had the money in relationship and when I heard her father passed away and left her his construction business, I was sure of it. Sarah did later say that she and her new husband started it and doesn't mention her father leaving her anything, but it was in a video that I didn't listen to myself but it was reported that she was "absolutely NOT drunk or high, just nervous" drunk or high and flightly.

People have been pointing out to Juliana that she probably hurt herself by not getting a prenup because he is going to operate his business as a very low earning corp and will not have anything to split should they divorce in the next few years. I suspect he doesn't have any money from the business in the first place, has it all wrapped up in his house and cars, and his income statement, balance sheet, and corp tax returns would show he is not as rich as he portrays.

7 hours ago, iwasish said:

The whole story of the pre nush discussion makes no sense. If Michael had no interest in getting one, why is he talking about it, taking Juliana to see a mediator, and  going thru all that angst for nothing.  I don’t believe a word Sarah says, she’s loving this whole mess. I’m betting she’s glued to all these websites all day long. From the couple videos I’ve seen of her, she’s pretty well drunk in most of them

Apparently, when they were in the car and he said he would have never taken her there if he knew it would upset her like it did, he was referring to the show setting it up. I absolutely believe the show set it up but do not believe he had no interest in one before they said they wanted to set it up. I also don't believe Michael didn't know Sarah was going to bring to it up; Juliana may not have known, but Michael did. 

Even if he didn't want one, I'm glad they went because Juliana left that meeting and said she thought the mediator was on her side, and when they were in the car heading home, she had the breakdown about the realization that she needed to set herself up to live independently even if the relationship lasts. It's unfortunate for her that she was dead set in her belief that it was a bad thing from the get go, or an attorney could have really shown her how it was in her benefit to have one. 

My opinion about Michael has never changed, I originally had no problem with Sarah but now she's joined Juliana in my "okay in small doses" but needs to act her age. Juliana's little girl act and Sarah's belief that she is showing the world the way co-parenting should be are as obnoxious as Michael's savior complex. 

This may be a transactional relationship but Juliana has said her family cut her off when she married Michael, even though she's been paying their rent for months, and was crying when she said it. She's not just giving up her youth for him, but her family relationships have been strained. It sounds like they may have expected much more financially from her than she can or wants to give them, but she's in a no-win situation at the moment and that's unfortunate for her. 

[Christina]

Three days ago was Cecelia's birthday.

And yesterday she ended up in the ER

Just because it's cute, here is a photo of Max heading to his preschool sing along

 

[RealReality]

5 hours ago, gameshowjunkie said:

The adults chose to go on this show, so I don't have much sympathy for them. They had to know how they would be portrayed - an older guy who supposedly has money(although why anyone with money would put themselves on reality TV makes no sense to me) and a young Brazilian model. I certainly wouldn't go attacking anyone on social media but have no issue mocking them on sites like this.

The kids, however, should be left alone. They didn't sign up for this. They seem like nice, funny, down to earth kids as well. Anyone going after them on SM is a douche.

They need not even muse or guess on how they would be portrayed because mark and Nikki, sean and Abby, David and annie already happened so they knew the template.  

The very arrogance of thinking that the producers were somehow going to make good on a "promise" instead of doing what is best for ratings is just.... hubris?  Like does Sarah think she is the first person to ask that she be presented in a positive light?  Does she think people who aren't rich want to look stupid on reality TV?

[RealReality]

7 minutes ago, Christina said:

Three days ago was Cecelia's birthday.

And yesterday she ended up in the ER

Just because it's cute, here is a photo of Max heading to his preschool sing along

 

You see, this right here.....why post pics of your kid in the hospital for the entire social media world to see?  Is nothing sacred?  Can nothing be secret anymore?  Must these kids now live with a cell phone camera shoved in their face even when they are sick for social media views?  

[Christina]

I was trying to find something on Michael's IG when I saw a post where he said something about the wine that confused me. He commented to someone that he purchased wine from the same person she was suggesting, which made me wonder what in the hell his job is. So, I went to The Connecticut Business Registration site and pulled up his business license. Michael has FIVE businesses in active standing with him being the owner or member of the corporation. I didn't see anything for Sarah, but I do not know her maiden name. Her last name was Jessen when she filed for divorce, but I don't know if she kept it. If so, nothing is coming up in her name. Nothing comes up as Sarah Naso, her husband's last name, either. Juliana Custodio and Juliana Jessen also had no results but I don't actually know if Custodio is her last name.

I took screencaps of the site, tried to black out the address, even though I'm pretty sure it was the apartment he lived in and not the house he purchased, but the site says it is too large to post. So, you will have to click the link above and do your own searches if you want to confirm what I'm typing. I'll add the Business ID in parenthesis for ease of search.

Sean Naso, Sarah's new husband, is the only owner listed for VULCAN CONSTRUCTION LLC (1299598)

The rest are all Michael.

MICHAEL JESSEN ADVISORY GROUP, LLC (1183307)

LICATAA FINANCING PARTNERS LLC* (1289904)

PEARL OF BURGUNDY USA LLC (1289905)

WAKA/JAWAKA CAPITAL PARTNERS LLC (1289907)

JMJ IMPORTS LLC* (1289909)

I barely started a search when I got side tracked by something Tania posted blowing up, but I found that there is a legitimate business out of Australia named JMJ Exports and that there are a few businesses that use Licata with only one A at the end as opposed to two and one of those businesses was a financing company that had several agents. Another Licata was in deep trouble with the SEC. 

My thoughts of him being a fraud are even more pronounced at the moment. My conman uncle used to embezzle money by creating businesses really close to the name of a legitimate one, then deposit checks made out to the other business in his own business account. It's also one of the typical ways people embezzle from their employers. Another main way is to create a business that you can invoice goods and services to legitimate businesses when there are not actually any goods or services being rendered. 

I wanted to see if he is licensed through the Dept of Banking as a mortgage broker, stockbroker or financial planner, but the wind is blowing so my electricity keeps going out. I'll probably forget I was even doing this when I log back on to my computer, but I don't want to lose everything I've typed, so I'm going to submit it now.

He may be completely on the up and up but he is so sleazy and radiates, "I'm a fraud!!! With a cool watch!!!" that I can't turn off my suspicions. 

[HunterHunted]

12 hours ago, iwasish said:

My 9 yr old niece does “runway” with more life and charisma than Juliana.  She looks like she’d rather be anywhere else but there.  Maybe Michael pulled in some favors to get her in the show ?

Michael did not pull strings with London designer Victoria Sanders, who had previously been the head of design for Matthew Williamson, to get Juliana to walk in Sanders' debut collection. Michael doesn't have that kind of pull. Julianna would have worked more if he did. He would have used that clout to get American agency to sign her so she could legally be in the US working and he wouldn't have had to bother with this marriage shit. Because him writing a cheque for $20K to her American agency for her pictures, book, and comp cards while she shackles up with him is a hell of a lot cheaper than what he's actually spent.

[Gobi]

If he's using Waka/Jawaka as a company name, he must be a Frank Zappa fan. The first likeable thing about him.

[merylinkid]

2 hours ago, Christina said:

JMJ IMPORTS LLC* (1289909)

Juliana and Michael Jenssen Imports.   I don't think anything more nefarious is going on there.   Interesting to see the details on that one.

[iwasish]

I wouldn’t be surprised if he used Juliana (In name only),  in a business venture. If things belly up, she can be held liable any debts. 
The more I see of him, the more sleazy, slimy and sneaky he seems. He makes my skin crawl. 

 

 

[RealReality]

56 minutes ago, iwasish said:

I wouldn’t be surprised if he used Juliana (In name only),  in a business venture. If things belly up, she can be held liable any debts. 
The more I see of him, the more sleazy, slimy and sneaky he seems. He makes my skin crawl. 

 

 

I wonder how a scheme-y type venture would affect her citizenship status?

[Drogo]

3 hours ago, merylinkid said:

Juliana and Michael Jenssen Imports.   I don't think anything more nefarious is going on there.   Interesting to see the details on that one.

 

[StatisticalOutlier]

On 12/24/2019 at 1:46 PM, RealReality said:

Contrast to the 90DF franchise, where these people are on for a season

I wish that were true, but Darcey and Angela are taking a stab at making a long term career of being on 90DF.

 

13 hours ago, RealReality said:

You see, this right here.....why post pics of your kid in the hospital for the entire social media world to see?  Is nothing sacred?  Can nothing be secret anymore?  Must these kids now live with a cell phone camera shoved in their face even when they are sick for social media views?  

Not even secret.  Just not publicized.  There's room in between, although nobody seems to understand that anymore.

[PikaScrewChu]

13 hours ago, RealReality said:

You see, this right here.....why post pics of your kid in the hospital for the entire social media world to see?  Is nothing sacred?  Can nothing be secret anymore?  Must these kids now live with a cell phone camera shoved in their face even when they are sick for social media views?  

I think they've caught on Max and Cece are the two most likeable people this franchise has had in quite a while. Click$!

[RealReality]

1 hour ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

I wish that were true, but Darcey and Angela are taking a stab at making a long term career of being on 90DF.

 

Not even secret.  Just not publicized.  There's room in between, although nobody seems to understand that anymore.

Yeah, but you'd have to admit that those are the exceptions that prove the rule.  This show isn't set up for an ongoing cast of participants.  And even when people appear multiple times, it hasn't launched any careers or business ventures worth writing home about.  House of seven eleven is defunct and did Angela ever have a side hustle? 

[mamadrama]

Michael also works for an auction house and that's where a lot of his wine money comes from. They literally auction off wine. He was the CEO of one auction house and he founded another one (Wally's Auctions). The Pearl of Burgundy company is an international wine distribution company that matches collectors with rare imports. It's a legit company and he really works for it. He heads up the American distribution part of it.

I think he's fake in general, and kind of a poser, but his jobs are real enough. I just don't think that they provide him with the amount of wealth he pretends to have. 

[Auntie Anxiety]

On 12/27/2019 at 11:27 PM, Frozendiva said:

 

Wonder if Michael just made a modest salary, whether Juliana would want him.

 

I’ll take NO for $2000, Alex.

[Auntie Anxiety]

16 hours ago, RealReality said:

You see, this right here.....why post pics of your kid in the hospital for the entire social media world to see?  Is nothing sacred? Can nothing be secret anymore?  Must these kids now live with a cell phone camera shoved in their face even when they are sick for social media views?  

This pretty much sums up why our civilization is headed toward the crapper. So many idiots have the mindset that they starring in their own movie, believing that they need to make public every thought, every action, every private moment that they are having. And for what? Getting likes from people who they don’t know and never will? They are so busy documenting every minute of their lives, they can’t take a minute and enjoy it.

[Baltimore Betty]

1 hour ago, RealReality said:

did Angela ever have a side hustle? 

I could not even imagine what that would be!  Maybe her own bra line or hair care products?

Edited December 30, 2019 by Baltimore Betty

[Frozendiva]

28 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I could not even imagine what that would be!  Maybe her own bra line or hair care products?

Throwable environmentally friendly cakes? Bras with pockets for phones and other portable stuff?

[Scout Finch]

5 hours ago, mamadrama said:

Michael also works for an auction house and that's where a lot of his wine money comes from. They literally auction off wine. He was the CEO of one auction house and he founded another one (Wally's Auctions). The Pearl of Burgundy company is an international wine distribution company that matches collectors with rare imports. It's a legit company and he really works for it. He heads up the American distribution part of it.

I think he's fake in general, and kind of a poser, but his jobs are real enough. I just don't think that they provide him with the amount of wealth he pretends to have. 

~small voice~ I think he's good-looking. That also goes for Darcy's Tom, although that's primarily because he's British and I'm an Anglophile accent slut!

[iwasish]

7 hours ago, mamadrama said:

Michael also works for an auction house and that's where a lot of his wine money comes from. They literally auction off wine. He was the CEO of one auction house and he founded another one (Wally's Auctions). The Pearl of Burgundy company is an international wine distribution company that matches collectors with rare imports. It's a legit company and he really works for it. He heads up the American distribution part of it.

I think he's fake in general, and kind of a poser, but his jobs are real enough. I just don't think that they provide him with the amount of wealth he pretends to have. 

I think he works and earns a decent living. Just not the kind of living he’s  allowed Juliana to think she’s going to have. I’m betting he’s got huge credit debt. And he probably wrote off  a lot of his trips with Juliana as business expenses. 

[RealReality]

2 hours ago, Scout Finch said:

~small voice~ I think he's good-looking. That also goes for Darcy's Tom, although that's primarily because he's British and I'm an Anglophile accent slut!

It's hard to tell, I think it's so hard to.tell because whatever he is working with is covered in his like faux bro 2000 era fashion choices.  And his personality.  In theory I think Michael could look good.  Maybe he needs the queer eye guys (I don't watch the show, but this is what they do right?)