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B&B: What's Up Today at Forrester Creations? - Daily Chat
KerleyQ replied to Aquarius's topic in The Bold And The Beautiful
I let out a loud laugh when Beige earnestly told Ridge she's never stopped loving him, and he jumped up to grab her a drink. Are we supposed to see how pathetic she is, or are we supposed to think that, despite all evidence to the contrary, she's a strong independent woman who doesn't need a man? Then we move over to Bitch in a Box and Steffy's Husband. When she said that she should stop venting about the Logans, I said "well, that leaves you with one of two options - you guys can talk about how devoted he is to you, or you can talk about getting your mommy and daddy back together." And, yep, she went with mommy and daddy talk. Related - that big ass house, and Kelly and Hayes are still sharing that relatively small room? Then we have Zende in that ugly ass shirt fantasizing about Brooke getting the company back. Can't wait until he finds out his dumbass uncle burned that plan to the ground. Brooke, honey, go home, gather up his shit, and throw it into a bonfire. Then go be a badass CEO. -
And, really, it shouldn't take a halfway decent therapist long to figure that out, once they hear all of her back story. Now, getting her to stop that pattern, on the other hand... Dammit, LW and CM, stop making me like Carly/Brennan. I shouldn't be hating myself this much this close to Christmas. Part of me hates that Cam had to comfort Joss, but then part of me would have been disappointed if he acted any other way, because Cam is one of those characters who is just deep down good and pure, and I wouldn't want to see him demean himself by letting Joss change that part of him. As it was, he was absolutely too good to her, but that's Cam. And I cracked up at Joss's shock to see he has someone new. Like he was supposed to be waiting on ice for her? She should be happy he found someone who cares about him, just like she found someone. Well, you know, not just like she found someone, since Cam's someone came along after he was no longer part of a couple. But, if Joss wants to sell that whole "but Cam will always be one of my best friends" thing, then she doesn't get to feel any kind of way about him having moved on after she cheated on and then dumped him. Why is Nina always so wide-eyed and near hysteria? She needs to dial it down about 1,000 notches. I get she's got a lot going on and all, but, seriously, calm the fuck down, Nina. Willow would be even more naive than usual if Nina keeps acting like this and she doesn't figure out something is up.
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I saw the whole Willow/Drew thing coming from the moment they had the scene where he told her about ending things with Carly. There was just something about it. And, honestly, I think that CM and KM have chemistry, so I was interested in giving it a shot. (Plus, Michael suffering? Sign me up.) Then he had hate sex with Nina, and the old school soapiness of the idea of Willow/Drew/Nina had me really hoping I wasn't wrong about where they were headed. Over the years, soaps have jettisoned all of the really dramatic twisted stuff and stuck with the same boring handful of predictable soap plots. So I'm just happy that we're getting a more old school plot that, at some point, all the soaps seemed to decide was just too much or something. Drew could stand to have a little more nuance, though. Maybe CM needs to sit down and pick MEK's brain for how to play the cad an audience wants to watch. Maybe the writers should sit in on that conversation, too. CM is far better as a gray character or bad guy than he's ever been as a good guy. Ryan Lavery lost every bit of his charm and fun the second they made him a "hero" on AMC. At this point, what I'd do to get things back on course would be for Nina to decide to pull away from Drew, because she sees how Willow feels about him, even though Willow still only sees Drew as her hero, not the messy not so great guy he is. They both agree they can never tell Willow what's happened between them, and build things like that for a while. All along, we'll all know, of course, that the truth will come out. Ideally, I'd have Willow find out without them knowing or have her start suspecting something. Maybe she sees them exchanging some looks sometimes, or comes in on the tail end of some conversations that seem intense. Then let her fuck with them a little bit. Keep setting them up in uncomfortable situations to see how they act, that kind of thing. Willow could stand to be a little more gray than just the cheater who, even the men she's cheated on think she only cheats because she has real feelings she can't help, or some such shit.
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B&B: What's Up Today at Forrester Creations? - Daily Chat
KerleyQ replied to Aquarius's topic in The Bold And The Beautiful
Lord, Taylor is so thirsty for that man baby. She started to head out and then probably flashed back to how she didn't seal the deal last time because Ridge found out in the middle of their wedding that the thing he was mad at Brooke over wasn't really Brooke's doing. So she figured, just in case there was a reasonable explanation for Brooke taking the CEO job, she'd better get in that bed now, before Ridge can find it out. There's Finn Steffy's Husband to reassure her that everyone who displeases her is wrong, and she's the victim she imagines herself to be. Who's a good boy? Who's a good boy? I wonder how TN feels knowing that he seemed to be headed to a good meaty breakup story, but now he's just there to play loyal sycophant. And Bitch In A Box with her "you know how the Logans are, always loyal to each other." Is she claiming that she and her family aren't exactly the same? And all of the Cliff House Asshole Collective being so shocked, shocked, I tell you, at the mere idea of a parent supporting their child. Like Ridge and Taylor don't act like the sun shines directly out of Steffy's ass and only out of Steffy's ass. Where I want things to go now: I want Brooke to find out that Ridge banged his jock rider because he couldn't wait five minutes to have a conversation with her first to find out what was going on. And I want her to say "fuck him, I'm running this place now." And then I want Zende and Eric to find out how that all went down and turn on Ridge for risking the company because he couldn't just not fuck Taylor in those circumstances. Couldn't sleep on it. Bonus points if they find out that he lost them the company in the first place because he stopped questioning the paperwork when Taylor popped in, and he needed his twice daily tongue bath from his ex, to make sure she remained firmly on his hook. Steffy, of course, will just be happy that mommy and daddy are doing it again, because Ridge's dick is the only way to keep Taylor in town long term. Eric going back to work with Brooke running FC and leaving Ridge and Steffy to sniff Taylor's asshole for a living would be so much better than whatever we're likely going to end up with. -
B&B: What's Up Today at Forrester Creations? - Daily Chat
KerleyQ replied to Aquarius's topic in The Bold And The Beautiful
As someone who watched All My Children for decades, it's wild to see RB in a role originated by HT. HT was a full grown ass adult on AMC almost 15 years before RB started on AMC playing a college kid. I can't believe I had totally forgotten about Steffy's stretch of trying to kill off all of her female cousins. -
I'm a couple days behind, so, are you telling me that they're done with Cam and we didn't get a Cam/Laura scene? Dammit, show!
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B&B: What's Up Today at Forrester Creations? - Daily Chat
KerleyQ replied to Aquarius's topic in The Bold And The Beautiful
Clearly, I know Brooke better than Ridge does, because I could totally tell during her announcement that she was trying to send him a message, letting him know that he could rest a little easier, because she was going to take care of the company for him until he gets it back. And is anyone on the planet more pathetic than Taylor? How many times has this happened, and we all know she's going to roll over and spread 'em ASAP to try to lock him down before he forgives Brooke again. Remember KA's Taylor claiming "I don't want you if you're just here because you're mad at Brooke about something"? She's throwing that last shred of dignity she was pretending to have right out the window. It's going to be hilarious when, right after they bang, Zende tells Ridge what Brooke's plan is to get him the company back, and he forgets Taylor's name. I just hope that Brooke finds out about it and is done with him. And Ridge still bemoaning that Brooke wouldn't kick her daughter and granddaughter out of their home, while he's staying at daddy's place is so spot on for how much self-awareness Ridge has. Is JMW pregnant again or did wardrobe just find her the least flattering sweater/jeans combo possible? I saw an interesting theory on reddit about why Finn has never found out about Liam kissing Steffy (and why nobody mentions it). The writers were just testing out whether the viewers were going to be open to Steam again, and the Steffy fans lost their shit, so they're just sweeping it under the table now and leaving her with Finn Steffy's Husband. To kind of further expand on that, now that I look at it that way: I think the plan was for them to put Steffy and Liam back together and put Finn and Hope together. But, like I said, they wanted to gauge viewer reaction to the possibility of breaking up Steffy and her husband. Thomas/Hope was basically filler, because the writers wanted to play with the actors' chemistry but didn't want to fully put Hope with the man who's tortured her for years. So, yeah, Hope was with Thomas, but during that, we had Finn repeatedly being concerned about Hope being with Thomas. We had him starting to chafe at Steffy's demands he stay away from Sheila. We had him find out about what Thomas did to Emma and become even more concerned for Hope. And we had Finn and Hope, who had always gotten along well enough, suddenly pretty much BFF's. Then we started getting Hope fantasizing about Finn, and him not exactly flirting with her, but definitely being very exuberant about how much he admires her. That was the writers building up to what they planned to do, but also taking long enough to gauge how the fans would react, and, like I said, the very vocal Steffy stans lost their shit. So, they backed out of that, had Hope kiss him, Steffy lose her shit on Finn when he told her, then Steffy gets kidnapped by Luna, and we get the "great romantic reunion" of Sinn when he saves her. And Hope gets shunted off to Carter. So, yeah, those kisses are dead and buried, just like Brooke's kid with Nick and Ridge being a Marone. We are never to think about or speak of them again. It was just an idea the writers floated and decided to retreat from. And Finn only exists now to tell Steffy how wonderful she is whenever she needs a boost. -
B&B: What's Up Today at Forrester Creations? - Daily Chat
KerleyQ replied to Aquarius's topic in The Bold And The Beautiful
Yep. And Katie did it without telling Electra why she was being fired. She also did it without talking to Ivy about why, despite Ivy seemingly being Electra's direct supervisor, and without discussing it with Carter first. It's totally ridiculous. Hope was the only person who even questioned it. Carter just brushed it off because Brooke told the two of them about it right as Carter was getting ready to ask Brooke to be CEO, so he wasn't going to question her judgement. Hope kept trying to get more of an explanation, but Brooke didn't divulge any details. -
B&B: What's Up Today at Forrester Creations? - Daily Chat
KerleyQ replied to Aquarius's topic in The Bold And The Beautiful
I cracked up at Ridge and Steffy gloating about how the company won't have a competent CEO (like Steffy leaves big shoes to fill), as we see Carter preparing to offer the job to Brooke, who has been and would be miles better than Bitch in a Box ever was. And, "hope ran her line into the ground," Ridge? That's some selective memory you've got there (real shocker for a Forrester, I know). Your daughter ran your company's highly profitable line into the ground when she shipped its lead designer out of the country without making any real plans as to how to preserve the line's quality and reputation. The whole Electra getting fired plot point is so poorly done. No, show, I'm not going to side with the Cliff House Asshole Collective just because you've made Brooke and Katie temporarily insane or something. -
B&B: What's Up Today at Forrester Creations? - Daily Chat
KerleyQ replied to Aquarius's topic in The Bold And The Beautiful
I think that's exactly what this is. Ivy would have no reason to side with Steffy, because Steffy tried to keep her out of FC due to their personal history. Meanwhile, Carter is the one who called Ivy in and pushed to bring her and Electra on board. So, you'd think Ivy would be inclined to trust him to some extent, even if she wasn't thrilled by the way the takeover happened. But, now the "new" FC powers that be are kicking her niece out the door over her being the victim of a crime (which they would have known if they'd bothered to have a freaking conversation about the picture), so now her animosity towards Steffy will disappear, and they'll be besties trying to defeat the evil Logans. This show is so damn lazy. -
B&B: What's Up Today at Forrester Creations? - Daily Chat
KerleyQ replied to Aquarius's topic in The Bold And The Beautiful
Do they not want us to like anyone on this show? That conversation Brooke and Katie had about Electra was pretty gross. "I thought she was a nice, sweet girl"? Like a nice sweet girl can't possibly have ended up with a naked picture of her out there (or, in this case, a fake naked picture)? After we just had Brooke, rightfully, angry about Ridge throwing the word "slut" around, now Brooke and Katie are shaming a woman for this? Ick. Ick. Ick. And then to not even talk to her about it? This is Eric's niece, guys. You're not going to give her the chance to have a conversation about this? Just fire her immediately? When neither one of you even has the authority to fire her? The worst part is that you know that they're just being so shitty about this to give Electra and Ivy a reason to be anti- the new powers that be at FC. Katie can be kind of uptight at times, and this is the woman dating her baby boy, so I guess I can kind of squint and see her jumping right to damage control. But Brooke? It feels really out of character for her to jump right to shaming a young woman for something like this. Zende kissing the asses of the men who he was, not long ago, complaining about not giving him a real shot in the family company, and Steffy, the person who ended the line he was working on without a courtesy warning, was obnoxious. She's the only one who has a decent wardrobe on this show. The outfit she was wearing the past few episodes was really cute and age appropriate, too. -
He's St. Jasus. She never stopped liking him. It was always just Sonny because her issue was never the mob, it was his split with Carly. I'd say also that Jason wasn't around when she became mad at Sonny, so he didn't get his share of that, but, let's face it, he still would have been exempt because he's Jason.
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I wouldn't rely on Enty for any accurate information. At one point, around a decade or so ago, he happened to have a couple blinds that turned out to be true. The subject matter was something that attracted some overzealous conspiracy theorists, who are kind of desperate for their conspiracies to be real. So, it turned into a thing where most of his blind items were coming from them, and all centered around that subject. He was posting them, because it brought eyeballs, but I suspect that it chased his genuine sources away from wanting to be associated with his site. So, he posts those unvetted blinds and, to keep some kind of "credibility" he fills in with posts like this one that are vague and generic enough that you can assume it applies to any number of people, and something that's believable but not provable. Stuff like this one is practically automatically "true," because there are always actors coming and going on soaps. And it's easy to assume, unless they're of retirement age, that they left because they are looking for bigger and better things. In this case, it really doesn't feel like this fits either Chad or Evan. Chad's IMDB is pretty sparse, so between that, his age, and the fact that he recently had a kid, it just feels like it would be an insanely stupid move on his part to just quit and assume Hollywood will fall at his feet with big roles. I figure he's likely got something already lined up to keep the money coming, whether that's another acting job (most likely on another soap) or something non-acting. And Evan seems like it was genuinely the show's choice, not his. He seemed to very much like where he was, and he did everything he could to endear himself to the show and viewers.
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B&B: What's Up Today at Forrester Creations? - Daily Chat
KerleyQ replied to Aquarius's topic in The Bold And The Beautiful
Yeah, that line by Electra made no sense to me. Because, sure, Steffy was nice to her, but she also knows that Carter was the one who brought her and Ivy to FC and proposed their return to Steffy. And she knows that Steffy initially shot them down because of her personal issues with Ivy. They only ended up being signed on because Eric stepped in and wanted them. So, everything she's experienced so far at FC bears out what Carter and Hope are saying about how Steffy has been running the company. -
The only non-GH thing I can remember seeing him in was Wizards of Waverly Place, and he was not good.
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Three cops already know Lulu broke into Wyndemere. (Yeah, one of them is her ex-husband, but still, there's really not any confessing left for Lulu to do.)
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Tracy and Ned were perfection today. I laughed along with them. Let Donna's future love interests be warned - Carly's spawn have a bit of a body count going. Although... I know they've made a big deal of announcing EH's departure and all, but I've already seen some speculation that Dex isn't really dead, and this is some scheme he and Anna came up with to bust the killer. This was the first time I've really enjoyed this Lucas. He made the Ava/Ric scenes significantly better. I don't care if it makes sense at all, can Natalia be Cyrus's next victim? I'll accept any and every reason.
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B&B: What's Up Today at Forrester Creations? - Daily Chat
KerleyQ replied to Aquarius's topic in The Bold And The Beautiful
I'm so mad that it was Ridge choosing to leave instead of Brooke telling him to get his ass out of her house. She should have said "OK, since you're throwing that word around, if my daughter is a slut, and I'm a slut, then you're a slut. Your daughter is a slut. Your precious Taylor is a slut." I loved the truth she did lay down on him, though. I'm surprised the writers let her get in that line about Hope raising Douglas because Thomas wasn't fit to do so. And I'm cracking up at Ridge belittling Brooke for "thinking her grown daughter can't get her own apartment," as he's bumming his way over to stay with his daughter and ex-wife (with his father being his only other option). Glass houses, asshole. Glass houses. Brooke should pack up Ridge's shit and dump it all over Steffy's front lawn. Let Steffy and her mommy have him. Then we can all laugh at Taylor in like six months, when Ridge starts sniffing around Brooke again, and she has a relapse of her broken heart syndrome. I hope that Brooke tells him where to go when that happens. And now, how soon until Bill's spidey senses start telling him that Brooke is free? Oh, and I saw an interview TK did about how Ridge thinks maybe Taylor has been the right woman for him all along, and she doesn't have kids with his brother or father. No, but she's banged all of them, dude. Remember that fun time, during HT's last stint as Taylor, when she was with Eric, and your spawn kept talking about "Mom and Eric," like Eric isn't their grandfather? Her relationship with Thorne? Her banging Rick right after he was involved with one of your daughters? Any of this ringing any bells? -
I completely missed when Sonny told her this, so is it possible Natalia did it, or does the timing not work out? I know there have been some suspicions that she may have some unsavory connections via her ex, and we've already seen her lie on the stand, so maybe she figured she'd solve this for Sonny? I can't wait to see Carly's head explode when she realizes that just about everyone there (except Joss, Trina, and Gio, maybe?) knew about Willow & Drew, but nobody told her. Bonus head exploding points when she finds out Jason has known, and that's the issue between him and Drew that she was encouraging them to get past.
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B&B: What's Up Today at Forrester Creations? - Daily Chat
KerleyQ replied to Aquarius's topic in The Bold And The Beautiful
If the show is going to have everyone telling us what a horrible manipulative vixen Hope is, I wish that's what she's actually been doing in this storyline. Instead, it comes off as her just being so broken from years of this bullshit, culminating in her losing her line, and she's just been so happy and relieved to have someone taking up the fight for her. This all would have been so much better if the story would have been her coming up with some kind of plan on her own instead of just going along with whatever someone else came up with. Let her start her own company, luring FC employees to come work with her. And have her announce her new company the morning of the day FC has a fashion show scheduled. Or let her sue the shit out of FC/Steffy and only agree to a quick and quiet settlement if it means Steffy has to step down as CEO. Let her have some fucking agency instead of having to just stand there as everyone hurls abuse at her over Carter's plan and actions. -
B&B: What's Up Today at Forrester Creations? - Daily Chat
KerleyQ replied to Aquarius's topic in The Bold And The Beautiful
If Brooke doesn't throw his ass out after that line... And, again with the whole nobody is allowed to speak truth when Ridge, Steffy, or Taylor are on an anti-Logan rant. Thomas will be in therapy the rest of his life because of Hope? Didn't that fucking psycho start therapy after he manipulated his son into covering his lie when he used his son's app to frame Brooke for calling CPS on him? That had fuck all to do with Hope and everything to do with the fact that Thomas has been a manipulative, lying, abusive sociopath for years. And why would he need therapy to get over Hope, Ridge? Isn't he perfectly happy and settled into the relationship and impending marriage with the woman he got involved with two seconds after he ended things with Hope, because he's just desperate to be married to someone, anyone? Oh, and, hey, Ridge, was it Hope's fault when Thomas raped misunderstood your wife, and you didn't know at first if Douglas was your kid or his? I need the whole story of the signing of the documents to be made known to everyone, especially Brooke and Eric. Ridge saw Carter's name there, he questioned it. Then, Taylor barged in for her twice daily visit, and Princess SuperBitch got all excited for her mommy and daddy time, so she told Ridge "it's Carter, we trust him, just sign it." This after she'd spent the previous two weeks bitching about how they couldn't trust Carter anymore because he's let Hope get under his skin. Had she not been so eager to have her mommy and daddy time, Ridge could have potentially actually read the part with Carter's name on it and figured out what was going on. This Remi story seems like one of those cases where the writers one day have no idea what the writers the previous day wrote. Yesterday, Electra was getting uncomfortable and had to tell Remi that she doesn't think of him as anything other than a friend, but today she didn't seem remotely uncomfortable or concerned with his intentions. It's going to be annoying if Will is the only person who is picking up the creepy vibes, and everyone acts like he's just jealous. He's already been super weird around multiple people, but I wouldn't put it past this show to have nobody but Will pick up on it. -
B&B: What's Up Today at Forrester Creations? - Daily Chat
KerleyQ replied to Aquarius's topic in The Bold And The Beautiful
I thought the Ridge isn't Eric's biological son reveal came well after Caroline died? -
B&B: What's Up Today at Forrester Creations? - Daily Chat
KerleyQ replied to Aquarius's topic in The Bold And The Beautiful
Yep. As gross as all the shit Ridge was saying to Hope, a woman he used to call his daughter, was, it was the writers browbeating a message into the audience. "Everyone will hate Hope." None of us are ever supposed to notice and bring up Steffy's shit, which is why nobody is ever allowed to throw any of her past deeds into her face when she's on one of her hypocritical rants. But, every single time Hope steps a toe out of line, multiple people have to tear into her and go on and on about how awful whatever she's done is. Even when what she's done isn't awful (i.e. being completely honest with Thomas from jump that she wasn't ready for marriage again). I just don't understand why this show doesn't write shit as they intend for it to be seen. If they want Steffy to be this tough heroine who is constantly being victimized by Hope and the rest of the Logans, then write that. Don't have her fucking Hope's husband. Don't have her forcing Hope to work with Thomas when Hope had a million and one reasons to not work with him. Don't have her interfere in Thomas and Hope's relationship. Don't have her interfering in her father's relationship with Brooke. And if you want her marriage with Finn to be this romantic ideal, write that, instead of the emotionally abusive and controlling mess that seems to be based 70 percent on his constant reassurances that he worships her and 30 percent on sex. Have her reciprocate when he recites how devoted he is to her, how he'd do anything for her, instead of her usual response of "I know how much you love me and would do anything for me." If Hope is suppose to be some kind of temptress who lured Carter into all of this, have her be the one to make the first move instead of Carter very blatantly coming onto her first. Have her discover the LLC papers and ask Carter "so, you could name anyone to run the LLC?" Instead, we had Carter initiate their relationship. We had Carter pushing to get serious and physical ASAP. And we had Carter come up with the LLC plan. But, Hope gets all of the blame for it, and Carter doesn't even bother to correct the record on that during that big confrontation because, again, nobody is ever allowed to utter any truth when it interferes with the gist of an anti-Logan rant. The writers are the ones who, you know, write the story. So why do they insist on not writing what they want to tell us? I got a laugh out of the ads to shop your favorite character's wardrobe. Can you imagine wearing any of this shit? Showing up in the office dressed how Steffy dresses for work? Wearing whatever the fuck they have Hope in today anywhere? -
B&B: What's Up Today at Forrester Creations? - Daily Chat
KerleyQ replied to Aquarius's topic in The Bold And The Beautiful
I'm really hoping he hears about it. -
For the love of God, will someone please shoot me in the head while I'm giving birth, because I actually like the Carly/Brennan chemistry. And, no, you can't judge me any harder than I'm judging myself right now.