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I really enjoyed After the Wedding and A Royal Affair. The Hunt and Flame and Citron are in my Netflix queue; I've been hestitating with The Hunt because I think it will be too gut wrenching. My admiration for Mads as an actor knows its bounds though: months ago I quit Pusher about an hour in and haven't gone back to it.
The Hunt is pretty heavy, yes, but Mads was amazing and he was used perfectly in that movie by the director. All the other casts were great too. Pusher is not my type of movie, so I haven't watch it and I don't think I will, but I know lots of people think the whole Pusher series was great.
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For anyone looking for some Mads during the long wait until season 3: I watched Adam's Apples on netflix yesterday and would recommend it. It's a Danish dark comedy and Mads plays a role verrrrry different than Hannibal.
I like Adam's Apples. I would reccomend After The Wedding, Flame & Citron, A Royal Affair, and The Hunt as well. Don't forget to prepare some tissues though...
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Damn that was true and true bloodbath finale! Hell hath no fury like a cannibal scorned! Great performances from everyone, especially Mads, it's his episode, I'm speechless.
And for someone as thorough, organized and unwilling to let a single detail go unnoticed, it's hard for me to believe Hannibal walked away with even a possibility that any of them could survive. Unless he wants them to come after him, of course. Which he might.
Yes, he was just so heartbroken by betrayal and slashes everyone. I doubt he cares much about their survival.
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So, I just saw this from tvguide.com:
However, Will needs Hannibal to commit this murder so they can arrest him, but Hannibal only breaks Mason's neck. Is Hannibal on to Will or is he keeping Mason alive because of Margot's financial dilemma?
Fuller: Hannibal's response is all of those things. It's a gesture toward Margot to give her some control in her life. And also, he doesn't kill him completely because, as he has said and will say again to Margot, the best therapy for her is to kill her brother.Looks like our interpretation is correct.
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Well, at least he spared Mason for Margot to torture with, that's like the greatest gift for Margot, lol.
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I'm not sure I want them to explain Mischa's death. Bringing her up once in while for an insight of Hannibal's inner feeling/thought is great, but explaining everything might not work so well. After all, Hannibal Rising wasn't exactly a great story.
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Hannibal did it for her. If he had just killed Mason then she would have lost everything. He made sure he was still alive, but will be sufficiently tortured for the rest of his life and dependent on Margo. Why would he kill her now?
I thought so too. Lots of reasons for Hannibal to spare Mason, but I think doing it to help Margot was the main reason.
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Man, that was sick! Loved it! All the camera effects they used after Hannibal gave Mason the drugs were really cool.
I'm still confused about Dr. du M. Did Hannibal sic the patient on her the way he sicced saber-tooth robo killer on Will, and she went overboard like Will?
Kinda disappointed we didn't get to see a flashback on it.
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When do you think Hannibal practices his fight skills? He was pretty slick with the kidnap squad Mason sent for him. That lay down on the floor and spin routine had to be through good training.
Yeah, he seems to have a lot of free time to learn some moves.
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I loved that we got Hannibal talking about Mischa, his emotion was devastating even though his expression was subtle. Mikkelsen is doing an insane job slowly letting out the true Hannibal via mannerisms. He's been playing him so conservatively around everyone so far that it's like he's been feeling a bit more comfortable to embrace his own nature between playing the Vergers and Will.
Can't wait to see how they'll integrate Lady Murasaki and Uncle Robertus into Hannibal's life in the show. Wonder who'll get cast as the Lady.
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Disappointed that the "dead Freddie" plot happened exactly as I predicted. Hannibal is so surprisingly dumb to fall for this kind of cheap trick. Guess it's another "Hannibal is so obsessed with Will he can't see it" reasoning, just like Alana was, oh wait, even Alana can outsmart Hannibal now!
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There are Gideon and Miriam from season1, and then there are Chilton, Matthew Brown, and (my theory from watching next week's preview) Freddie in the current season. My guess is
usually when there's a burnt corpse from a character we're not sure is dead or not (fiery guy on wheelchair in the preview), said corpse will be unidentifiable and unrecognizable, but DNA or whatever will point to the body being Freddie, this is the oldest and weakest tv trope fake death plot.
Hey, I hope I'm wrong, and the show won't actually go down that route, but that's my suspicion. I'll actually be very disappointed if I'm right.
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That's also one of thing, we actually saw Will dragging Freddie out of the car (what happened with Fuller's "no violence against female" policy by the way?), but even then, we still didn't believe he could kill her. Can't imagine how Hannibal who didn't see anything could believe Will did killed her. Anyway, my debate isn't on whether Will did killed Freddie, but on whether another fake death plot is going to be used again. That's why I hope he did killed her, the fake death plots in this show is getting ridiculous.
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But Will is Hannibal's weakness. His need to be "friends" with Will and determination to mold him clouds his judgement. I don't think it has anything to do with dumbing down. What we are seeing is Will finally effectively using himself against Hannibal.
Like I said, if the audiences never believe that Will could kill Freddie, then IMO they haven't earned that "Hannibal falls for it" plot (if they really go that way). I don't really understand this situation, if Will kills Freddie, people will be unhappy, because it'll be OOC, Will would never kills innocent people. If Will didn't kill Freddie and yet Hannibal falls for it, then our usualy smart villain is actually very stupid, because how could he actually believes someone like Will could kill an innocent person? Neither options make sense to me.
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Guess I'm in the minority because I want Freddie to be dead and not for this to be a fake-out. A fake-out would be predictable, and I don't want this show to be predictable.
I'm with you. Catching Hannibal can only be satisfying if the audiences didn't see it coming. If the audiences already saw it coming and predicted it, yet Hannibal falls for it, then we're all smarter than dumbed-down Hannibal, and that wouldn't work. If it's so obvious that we can all see it, Hannibal should definitely see it too.
I would also prefer Freddie to be dead for the story to works, and I mean 100% dead, with her dead body being shown to us and Hannibal.
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I have to think Freddie's fate is a fake-out. I'm under the assumption Will is undercover to get to Hannibal, and while he's not against killing a pet like Randal, killing Freddie would cross the line. I have to think he's either captured and hid her, or he was able to convince her, and she's in hiding. But, it would be strange for Hannibal not to ask for proof, since he doesn't strike me as someone who would just take Will on his word.
Agreed. Hannibal is not dumb, he won't just take anyone's word on it. He will need to see her corpse before he'll believe any of it.
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I think Chilton may well be alive because he was referred to in the present tense: "Chilton has many victims beyond the dead" - not 'had'.
I noticed the "has" too. Still keeping up hopes for Chilton.
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Tonight's episode, Su-Zakana, showed a lot of Hannibal's "nonchalant wtf" facial expressions. It's truly a joy to watch, priceless. Hannibal petting that silence lamb was such a nice touch too.
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Well, Hannibal needs to frame someone to help exonerate Will before he rots in there, and Chilton is the most plausible option of them all because of his involvement on the CR case. Fuller was kinda stretching it I guess.
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I see the kitchen scene as his play to lull Will into a sense of power. It's like saying, you're holding the gun, you have the power to kill me anytime, but then you won't ever know why I did all this, are you ok with that or would you prefer to know the answers before killing me?
Hannibal was very calm in the pool scene and he managed to overpower gun wielding Beverly and Jack, so I don't believe he was scared of Will. Which is why, when he opens the door for Will, he asks again, are you going to point a gun and try kill me again or are you here for the answers?
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Damn, Hannibal, at this rate you'll run out of people to frame. Does he has a list or something??
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One thing that disappointed me the most in this episode, why didn't they show us the reactions of the 2 FBI agents when they were greeted by Hannibal in his plastic murder suit?! Hannibal's polite "One moment, please" was so hilarious I just had to pause it for a while, lol.
Anyway, it's sad that Gideon and Chilton are gone (well, maybe it's only temporary with Chilton, who knows).
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Hannibal did get more screen time this season, but that's because Will's in jail, and I think Fuller's lead is still and will always be Will Graham (he said so a couple of times actually). Everyone's life basically revolve around visiting Will's prison one way or another. Sometimes it's even feel forced, like scenes where Alana visits Will are so boring.
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Why did Hannibal serve real food at his party? Was he tipped off as to what Will said to Jack? That was a surprise as well. In the scheme of the story evolution it is too early for Jack to know for sure Hannibal is serving people to people. So I can well see why the real food was there for Jack to test.
I'm pretty sure that all the foods were normal meat. He knew Will has been telling everyone that he's the Chesapeake Ripper, and the fact that Beverly took the liver from his fridge means that Will already told her that he's a cannibal. He deliberately told Jack that he's throwing a dinner party while killing people as the Chesapeake Ripper and taking their organs. He knew Will is going to tell Jack to test his foods. His calm winks to Chilton pretty much confirmed this. He orchestrated everything, like how he composed his song. You go you Fancy Cannibal!
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S02.E13: Mizumono
in Hannibal [V]
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How this Chelsea person can mock someone's accent is beyond me.
I agree, Mads does great interviews too, he always sound honest and sharp with his answers, but yes, he seldom do interviews and public appearances. He seems to prefer to stay with his family in Denmark when he got the time.