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I find myself comparing this episode with the "family therapy" episode in Season 2 which was SO good. In that episode, it felt like things that needed to be said were said and then it circled back to loving each other. But now, nearly everyone is acting out and some (esp. Randall) are so far removed from their original characters that I'm feeling really disconnected from the show. It pains me to say so because up until this season, I was a huge fan. I'm going to stick with it, but it's definitely not as good a show as it used to be.
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1 hour ago, ShadowFacts said:
Surprise twins seems like something they would like to pull off.
Yes, I can definitely see them going in this direction. But to do it right, they would need to come up with a third baby (a "Randall") for Kate & Toby to adopt.
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10 hours ago, Biggie B said:
At this point, the only iteration of Randall I like is the teen Randall, and even then, it may be only because the young actor is doing such a good job in the role.
I agree that the actor playing teen Randall is outstanding -- as is the actor who plays him as a younger boy. He is my favorite Pearson kid because he is the only one who is not self-centered and obnoxious. Granted, that's the norm for most kids ... but Randall has always been portrayed as sweet, sensitive, intuitive, and genuinely caring ... which makes it an even tougher pill to swallow that he is acting like such a jerk this season especially.
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On 12/26/2018 at 6:28 PM, buckboard said:
But now that the current White House resident is not the one I prefer, the show reminds me an awful lot of the latter seasons of The West Wing. Both shows give me an alternate universe White House, with a presidential administration running the government that I'd like to see there.
I understand your point. I used to watch the West Wing for this very reason, i.e., the "alternate universe White House." I guess I think that West Wing pulled it off better.
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On 12/24/2018 at 10:50 AM, deaja said:
I thought it was trying way too hard to be ripped from the headlines and too on the nose. They’ve been doing it more and more this season but this was way over the top.
Totally agree. They are killing this show with the gratuitous headline plots ... actually non-plots because instead of telling stories through the characters, the writers have morphed into Matt, the speech-writer. I'm still going to ride the show out but it's really a shame what it's come to -- used to be so good.
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2 minutes ago, Christina87 said:
We had training at work last year about how to respond if a student came out to us. They recommended saying, "thank you for trusting me with this. How private is this information?" They emphasized NOT going the route of whipping out a rainbow flag and screaming, "OMG, that is AWESOME!!!! I'm so excited for you!!! I have gay friends, and they have a great life! You will be so happy, and I still think of you exactly the same." I laughed, because in all reality, that's what I WOULD have said, just so they would be sure I was okay with it.
Christina, I understand the low-key, advisable approach ... however, if my parents had whipped out a rainbow flag, I would have been over-the-moon happy. (After being revived w/ smelling salts, of course.)
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2 hours ago, tennisgurl said:
Also need to mention, Randall start of a joke about how he "secretly hoped Tess would never like boys" was super cringy. Not only because its a dumb joke to make when Tess is clearly really upset about something serious, but I hate those kinds of cracks from dad, and that general attitude.
Agreed.
The other part of this that bothers me is that it displays the "assumption of heterosexuality."
This is why it is still so hard for kids to come out (even 40 years after I did so to my parents). Tess has been raised in a home, that although loving & well-meaning, has given her the message that she will grow up to be straight & all that jazz. Hence, her tangible angst and discomfort in that scene.
As for Randall and Beth's reaction ... I give it a "B" at best. I do realize that parents have their own "coming to terms" process upon learning that their assumptions re their children were not correct ... but ideally the better reaction would be along the lines of "of course we love you" AND "our bad" for assuming your path would be the same as ours.
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Best part of this episode: The bonding of Tess and Kate. It was a very sweet scene, and I loved everything about it. Re the theories mentioned here that Tess might fall for Deja ... no, no, no! That would be too weird & incestuous. But the bonding of Tess & Kate does make me wonder if the "her" is Kate. As I've said before, it has to be someone that Randall, Tess, and Toby all have in common (enough to have appeared in the preview scenes).
Worst part of the episode: A tie, between 1) William and Jesse (too many other things going on for us to be interested in their back story); and 2) poor Jae-Won ... being caught in a Pearson family drama with no escape.
Vietnam: I'm still interested in how this plays out. I thought this episode's scenes were good, especially showing Nicky refusing to help the boy (and why).
Overall: I didn't cry. This season has been like that ... it's just not as sharp & tight as in the past.
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This episode moved a bit slow for me, and I never really "connected" with the various plot lines.
Road trip: It had some sweet moments but not enough of them. I didn't cry or get choked up either when Rebecca was singing. I think it's because we already know that Jack's PTSD runs deep. All in all, the scenes did not add much to what we already know about the characters. Oh, I did like the "you're Pittsburgh good" scene. We've all had to face disappointments and had a dream or two crushed ... so this scene felt quite authentic.
Vietnam: Again, not much new going on other than moving Jack and his brother to the same location where we will presumably learn what happened.
Kevin & Zoe: I agree with the others who have said that these actors don't seem to have much chemistry together -- so, I'm not as invested in how their relationship unfolds. Maybe now that Zoe has told Kevin about the abuse, that will change. Right now, I don't much care whether they stay together or not.
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On 11/1/2018 at 3:54 PM, Cobalt Stargazer said:
As annoying as JM playing family therapist can be, I noticed that when she asked what kind of example they were setting for the kids when they become parents, she got a defensive 'we're doing the best we can' in response. Um, no, you aren't, you bottom-feeders...
I kind of like it when JM plays family therapist and tries giving people a wake-up call. Especially in this episode, which has stuck in my head because of the utter misery going on in that family (all parties). Those kids are not only going to have major issues with their parents but when there's that kind of chaos going on, especially at their ages, the kids are at risk for going haywire themselves (drugs, alcohol, etc.).
It continues to astonish me how much horrible drama people allow into their lives. And, it's always someone else's fault. smh
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I enjoyed this episode a lot. For one thing, there were no "speeches" -- well, except for the one on stage which was fine. I liked that they let the storylines unfold in fairly believable ways rather than the "forced" feeling that I got from earlier episodes this season.
As for Jason ... yeah, what an attitude that kid has. I wish he had been accepted at West Point. They would straighten him up fast & furious.
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Deja: Yay!!! The writers have finally made her likeable. That was an awesome, Pearson-esque speech she gave Beth. And, it was so great to see her smile and seem more at peace with her situation. For the first time, I want to see more of her.
Randall. I refuse to turn against him. He still has those wonderful qualities that he had as a little boy and teenager. The writers have put him into unrealistic situations ... not his fault.
Toby & Kate. Glad to see signs of progress for Toby. And, I liked Kate's "for better or worse" talk with him.
Audio. Were they in a dog park or did she let him off leash in the regular part o the park? In any case, I don't think the writers are good with writing pet scenes. They didn't handle William's cat well, and I'm still not over that!
Kevin. I'm all in on the Vietnam story line. I have a feeling the woman in the picture is connected to Nicky, not Jack. We'll see. As for Zoe ... what bothers me the most is that there doesn't seem to be much natural chemistry between the actors.
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On 10/29/2018 at 7:05 AM, Netfoot said:
Apparently he now stands all day in a broom-closet in the Oval Office, and pops out when ever anyone needs to hear about Thomas Aquinas.
LOL! So true! This whole "ethics adviser" role of Henry's is a bit much. I guess it's mostly an excuse to include him in more scenes now that he's not running clandestine operations.
Loved that Kat was back in this episode. I hope she sticks around. She brings a lot of sizzle to the show.
They almost made it through an episode without being too preachy ... but then the "soldiers died so that you can vote" lecture. The writers need to find a way to rely on storytelling rather than lectures.
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Love Ming.
Miss Kat - hope she shows up again soon. She adds energy to the pace of the show, and she delivers the dialogue they give her in a way that keeps me totally engaged and wanting more.
Not a big an of Mike B. Too one-dimensional.
Overall, I think the scripts this season have been a bit too West Wing-y. Not that I didn't love that show. But I want them to tell the stories without it sounding preachy. I'm a diehard liberal - and agree with their message ... but I want the messages to be told through story telling.
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Thinking about who the "her" could be really has me baffled.
It has to be someone that Randall, Tess, and Toby all have in common. If it's Beth - as has been speculated this week - why the call from Randall to Toby to "come downstairs?" If it's Kate - why is Tess a key participant in the visit?
I'm thinking it could be one of the peripheral characters whose storyline and connection to those three has not yet been developed.
Thoughts?
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4 hours ago, jhummerbird said:
I think the racial dynamics of the Zoe-Kevin storyline are quite true to life and well done. My issue with it is that it doesn't really fit what we know of the characters so far.
Good point. But I don't think the writers have been consistent with the peripheral characters in general. Like when they started out making Madison seem like a dippy, skinny blonde chick but then gave her more depth. I think Zoe's character is changing on us too. I'm ambivalent about the relationship. To me, they don't have the greatest chemistry on screen.
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Re the Zoe-Kevin storyline. I think the writers want us all to be thinking about and discussing the subtle (and not subtle) issues of race. I think they've integrated topics quite well into the script. It certainly has been well-discussed on this board!
As for Vietnam and the mystery woman in the picture ... wild guess but maybe there was a relationship between her and Jack's brother? And, maybe there are now Pearson cousin(s) in the states? (As if we don't have enough Pearsons to worry about!)
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3 hours ago, PRgal said:
I think GenXers and Millennials are getting MORE help with PTSD since we are now more aware and open about mental health issues. There's still a long, long way to go to full destigmatization though.
Excellent point. The Vietnam vets got very little mental health help when they got back home. Plus, the country was so divided over the messed up war that our politicians got us in to ... both the experience in the war and readjustment back at home were terrible ... and with very little resources or public support on their side. Today we hear "thank you for your service" all the time. Then, not hardly.
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28 minutes ago, Blakeston said:
I can't even count the number of war movies I've seen with some version of that scene with the fish - where a Bad Soldier is cruel to a local child, on the grounds that "in a few years, he'll be trying to kill us!" Followed by a more reasonable soldier admitting that he has a point.
I swear, if that kid shows up again to save (or end) someone's life, I may have to throw something at my TV.
I didn't even think of that ... but, yeah, it's the perfect setup for when Kevin goes to present-day Vietnam, and that kid somehow factors in to the story.
Better start thinking about what to throw at the TV ...
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44 minutes ago, ProudMary said:
Do you truly believe that Gen Xers and Millennials that have returned home from Iraq or Afghanistan are any less messed up than those who returned from Vietnam?
Never said that. Never would.
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5 hours ago, CleoCaesar said:
Are you seriously generalizing two entire generations based on a dozen comments that a shitty episode of an average TV show was boring?
It's not boring because it was set in the past. It was boring because it was a dull episode that regurgitated everything we already knew about St. Jack.
No, I am not "generalizing two entire generations." I was expressing an opinion about how some of the comments on this forum play in to stereotypes.
The oft-cited "Greatest Generation" before me had all kinds thoughts about kids in the 1960s & 1970s ... it is the way of the world and human experience for each age group to think they have it worse, better, whatever ... and that no one understands their generation.
What I like about TIU is that it attempts to bridge some of the generational divide. I happened to like the Vietnam episode and thought it was a good effort in terms of explaining what those years & experiences were like.
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1 hour ago, ShadowFacts said:
It may be too many flashbacks, it may be not enough that interests me in present day, but I don't think the insertion of Vietnam is a problem in itself. And I don't think that people who didn't like it are soulless GenXers. Nobody is ever going to like the same things all the time, there's nothing wrong with personal preference.
That's fair.
It just seemed to me that there was a lot of complaining going on along the lines of "I don't care about the Vietnam story/I want things to stay present day" etc.
On another (but related) issue is the fact that Jack/Milo are very important to TIU. And, so, what do the producers do with a character who is dead in the present day? It's only logical that they decided to tell the back story. Job security for Milo, who, I think most of us agree, is a terrific actor.
The Vietnam episode held my attention WAY more than the first-dates-with-Rebecca scenes. Those, I found boring.
It's going be interesting to see where they go from here with Jack's involvement with the story line.
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Very interesting to read all of the "I was bored" and "get back to the present day" comments about this episode.
For me, that just reinforces the stereotype that millenials and Gen Xers don't really give a damn if it's not relevant to them.
Yes, I am a boomer, and I lived through the Vietnam era. I had cousins who served, and although they survived, they each came back messed up in one way or another ... because it was a terrible, crazy, ugly war that took a tremendous toll.
This country ignored what happened in Vietnam for decades. I think we can spare 48 minutes to hear a few fictional stories depicting the personal toll it took on so many.
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2 hours ago, CheshireCat said:
Don't worry. She wasn't in every episode last season either and as I mentioned in a previous post, Jay wasn't a regular until S2. Kat, as policy advisor, probably was around somewhere, but, I guess, they simply didn't need to show us her interaction with Bess to advance the story :-)
Whew! That's right -- now I remember that she was not in every episode last season. She has so much natural charisma. I really enjoy watching her.
S33.E04: Ready to Restart the Race
in The Amazing Race
So glad the episodes are back but ...
It's hard to watch Akbar being so emotionally abusive to Sheri. For someone lauded for good works, he sure is coming off as flat-out mean to his own wife.