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21 hours ago, Ohwell said:
I'm just going to believe that he found Mei and they made beautiful Chinese-American babies. :)
how on earth would he not find her... He had her address for christs sake and she would be waiting since she left it. And barely any time passed since she left ... Maybe 2 weeks at most... which means she probably did not even arrive in China yet when he set sail.. It would take 3 weeks to sail to China back than.. and he would not have to travel far after getting there because she was in Ningbo.. Ningbo is a port city right on the coast line.
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36 minutes ago, Dowel Jones said:
ETA: What was the point of Bohannen removing the piece of wood in the confessional? He saw something there but then the scene moved on.
that was covering the bullet hole that he put there when he shot that guy in the confessional when the show first started
QuotePerhaps the most memorable scene of the series finale is when Cullen, having initially decided to become a colonel in the 4th Cavalry, goes back into the confessional. “Do you seek salvation?” he’s asked. “Do you wish to be saved?” He’s crying, but he’s laughing. Then he says, “Thank you.” What’s going through his mind?
Anson Mount: That was one of those amazing moments where what you’re going through as as a professional and what you’re going through as a character sort of collide and they exist in parallel. The full ramifications of that scene that were implied in the writing — and it was great writing by Tom Brady and Jami O’Brien — I had not considered until I was in that booth shooting that scene. When Cullen sees that bullet hole [that he made at the start of the series], he is suddenly confronted with the entire arc of his journey on this railroad. And what he realizes is that this obscene burden, this tremendous war that was fought to make this engineering project, this addiction that he’s had to this thing — [Laughs] everything that he cursed about it was actually a gift of grace from god. It was exactly the thing that he needed to heal. He doesn’t realize until that moment that everything comes together — his faith gets answered, his self gets answered, his wound is sealed up. He comes to realize the great joke that it all is, and that he didn’t see it until that moment. He starts in that confessional as a murderer and he walks out of that confessional as a complete human being.I literally did not see that on the page until I was in the middle of shooting the scene, and I went, “Oh, that’s what this is about.” And it was just so beautiful that yeah, I started crying. And I realized what that “thank you" was about. It wasn’t to the priest next to me, it was to god.
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1 hour ago, Raja said:
It went with Doc's speech about the nation healing and the Confederates becoming Americans again. Also to misdirect us, if he was 4th Cav how could Bohannon get to China. Even as he accepted the commission I thought he was going to an embassy in China but with Custer and his we are stone cold killers thrown into the mix I should have known better
man nothing you say ever makes any sense LOL
24 minutes ago, nodorothyparker said:This is still a few years before Little Big Horn,
actually its 7 years before.. that battle happened in 1876... this railroad stuff was 1869
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9 hours ago, catrice2 said:
Ok. I caught the last 7 to 8 minutes, Eva hugging the reporter, Eva riding off on a horse, Cullen on a boat.
I just can't sit through another hour....what happened to everyone?
Cullen gets the note Mei left him translated.. It's an address, her address in China.. at the missionary in Ningbo... He gets offered a job with the army.. he takes it.. then realizes he made a mistake... he goes to a church, confessional.. just sits there and says nothing while the priest asks him questions.. then he has some type of epiphany in the booth and starts laughing / crying..
back at his hotel room.. you see him getting ready to leave as Durants speech can be heard.. they show eva too who rides off to somewhere on her horse... a shot of his army uniform left on his bed as he leaves.. next they show him on a train.. a guy comes around and says next stop San Francisco.. they show him arriving at the passage to china ship yard... show him holding Mei's note while looking out over the ocean.. then show the hull of a ship... then show him on the ship off to China..
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2 hours ago, Raja said:
I doubt if they would be bringing him on as platoon leader or an Infantry or Cavalry officer. But he was a Confederate Colonel who was an engineer noticed by President Grant on one of the biggest projects in the nation's history to that point. His joining the Army Corps of Engineers and donning the blue would be a sign of the states coming back together
so you're saying its all ceremonial.. he was firing a gun too though....
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2 hours ago, paigow said:
What are his career options? What are his skills?
Well you would think at this point he would simply want some peace and quiet. I think that would be the most logical assumption..
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25 minutes ago, catrice2 said:
Expressed by the characters on the show, or depression from us on the thread? I honestly don't think most of us care enough to be depressed, just grateful that it is over. Most people are watching out of a weird obligation to see it to the bitter end, not because they are interested in the story.
by the viewers in general... you haven't spent time on the face book page.. they're pretty ravenous / addicted over there.. but think of it this way.. for the people who have watched this for 5 years.. they basically helped make this show a success.. they supported it with viewership / ratings.. enabling them to sell ad space and make money... they owe their viewers a good ending. Not some depressing shit hole of an end.. which I am fully expecting anyway. I mean if you're going to take people on a 5 year long story telling journey.. at least end it the way the majority of the fan base would want... and I am sure they must know what that would is.. AKA Cullen getting a good end..
Remember when Lily was still around? They knew the fans needed to see them together finally.. and they made sure they did it before the actress left... its just common courtesy....
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8 minutes ago, ennui said:
I believe the white horse with the red spots is an Appaloosa. Spotted horses tend to be highly prized by the plains Indian tribes. I think that particular horse must have significance for Eva, since her tattoo means 'three blankets, two horses.'
Maybe Cullen is going to re-enlist and join the cavalry. Maybe the 7th. He can go off to Montana with Custer.
Regarding the trial, I thought Cullen was called to testify against Durant.
why on earth would anyone want to see him to join the army..
not to mention the fact that it would go completely against his character at this point. where he has been trying to stop killing which is why he didn't kill the swede and dragged him back to be hanged.. not to mention war is what basically ruined his life... not to mention his leg his totally messed up... not to mention he's probably in his early 40's......
that would literally be the dumbest thing to happen..
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well after today... only 1 more day left till Sat.... I then predict extreme amounts of depression when nobody ends up getting an ending they want
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found this interesting post made by someone on the hell on wheels facebook page.. not sure who it is but............
Quoteafter what I was told the girl's reaction was when she pieced together how the final episode ends when she went in to clean up after the final shoot wrapped.
All we were told was "It's not what you will be expecting" -- confidentiality all the way.
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yet the job is finished..... and he's still there... I know there's one episode still left and not much time could have passed since "any sum within reason", probably only days or a week.... but I doubt anything changes.
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I got 5 bucks that says the clowns at AMC kill him off in the end.........
I think it was actually Bohannons fault letting Mei leave. sure he did a lot for her and didn't want her to leave.. but he could have just said.. pack your stuff, we're leaving.. instead he was willing to stay there putting them both at risk... for the railroad ?????? don't have much pity for him anymore.. they've turned him into an unlikeable, self destructive buffoon... and an alcoholic now it seems like...
good game amc...
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10 minutes ago, snowwhyte said:
Maybe its a flashback to his time in the war. We got a war flashback for the Swede, why not Cullen?
well here's one of the comments about that
QuoteSaw the preview; saw Bohannon in the uniform of the then US Army. What the hell is HOW team doing? This guy has had enough of war and of violence. And what lies ahead are the indian wars! The sort of atrocities that have scarred Bohannon's soul. Don't know what the HOW team is thinking!!!!!!
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some people are saying that because the preview shows him in some kind of military uniform.. that he joins the army..
but how would he do that with his messed up leg.. but better yet.. why would he even do something like that at all..
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changs killer?
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4 hours ago, catrice2 said:
Cullen has become so unlikable, predictable, broken, etc. that not only do I not care what happens to him, I can barely watch him on the screen.
I agree with the person who said he dies in the end. What else is there?
It's because they refused to let his character just be happy.... It Mei <-- still happen in the end.. but I wouldn't be surprised if its a bad ending....
And if he does get a miserable end he would be the only one to blame... he should have gotten on a Boat to China already... instead the next preview shows him in a military uniform doing god knows what????
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10 hours ago, nodorothyparker said:
That was 40 some minutes of goodness of seeing the race to the finish with Psalms and the freedmen joining together with Cullen and the Chinese workers followed by 10 minutes of I have no idea what. Something something Durant double crossing Huntingdon somehow over something and Cullen rolling around on the floor in pain for some reason. We couldn't figure out if he had fallen and broken his leg or had a heart attack or what.
He's in next week's previews though so I guess we can assume whatever it was wasn't that serious.
it was the pain of missing Mei and then some
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7 hours ago, Ohwell said:
I have a feeling now that once the railroad stuff is over, he will go looking for Mei and the note she left contains information on how to find her.
hmm if it was info on how to find her then I don't think he would be so grief stricken since he would know where she is and could go to her when he wanted.. but its definitely some kind of note from her.....
But I don't think they would have focused so heavily on her box and his grief over Mei unless they were leading up to something with him and her at the end..
I think I wont watch the final episode unless I hear there was a happy ending..
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hmmmmmmm
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When you really think about... it seems that Mei left to save herself rather than Cullen... because there's no way she could have known what would have happened to Cullen in regards to his shooting all those people.. she didn't know that he was off the hook for that because she already left.. For all she knew they could have arrested him on the spot when he went to meet with the general...
Either its just bad writing or she was looking out only for herself..
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Well he sure isn't going to find any new love in the next two episodes.. so its either Mei he goes after or nobody in that regard..
and if it's nobody then what exactly would they show him doing after its all done? continue working on the railroad? no.... riding off into the sunset ? no..... show him old and grey and alone? I doubt it.. they did that with Durant already...
I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up dying somehow in the end. I may not even bother watching the last episode and just read about it the next day to see how tragic it was.
Of course she wouldn't be able to let on or reveal anything about the last 2 episodes if she did have a role in them still......but I doubt it..
He was shown overcoming his relationship issues.. and realizing his faults... trying to keep mei around.. It just seems strange to me that the writers would choose to kind of start saving him in the last episode only to destroy him in the very end.
However, Bohannon is a fictional character.. so is Mei..... so they can do whatever they want. With that being the case they've got no reason for him to not ride off into the sunset as winning something.
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based on this Q&A with Mei 4 days ago it seems like her character role was over with the last episode......
http://www.amc.com/shows/hell-on-wheels/talk/2016/07/hell-on-wheels-qa-angela-zhou-mei
She wouldn't know the ending since she wouldn't be given the scripts to the last 2 episodes if she had no acting roles in them so I suppose its still possible they can simply have Cullen sail off to China in the end........ but something tells me that aint gonna happen......
Prepare for the worst... batten the hatches
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real men never shave.. they just trim.
S05.E14: Done
in Hell On Wheels [V]
The first railroad to operate commercially in China opened in Shanghai in July 1876. So I suppose they could do a show with Cullen and Mei building that railroad..
but don't bet on it. :P