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Today Joy D'Angelo wrote what is closest to the true what was written till now! I always liked her point of view and she didn't disappoint me even now. Plus what today spoilertv wrote .. we will have "Night shift" with "GA" together!

http://www.tvovermind.com/code-black/code-black-season-2-is-revamped-with-no-more-christa-neal

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5 minutes ago, Happy Harpy said:

Wow it's even worse than I thought. You have no idea of how much I hope that both Bonnie and Raza will find another successful show soon. You can't do anything about Executive Meddling, but you can be decent and honest with people you work with. CBS, well, we know networks. But Seitzman and the other producers?  Disgusting.

M.Seitzman is now playing the "we have a large crew that works hard (please don't drop our show)". Yeah, cry me a river.  He reminds me of the HIMYM producers.

Oh, and now Code Black 2.0 is going to copy the Night Shift, with an ex-military doctor.  I know I said I didn't care what happened but it's actually f

New Male Co-Lead

I feel that it adds insult to injury for Raza Jaffrey because "late thirties/early fourties", "sexy to women and compelling to men" EXCUSE-ME? And doesn't the description sound like Leanne, with the cowboy thing? I see more some "future replacement" than "love interest" here. 

Nobody is safe in Code Black ;). I won't be surprised if Leanne earlier or later disappears if she won't be suit to "new direction". I wish her and others all the best but everything is possible. For sure I will be waiting to see first rating in september. That would be very interesting who will be right we or producer.

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27 minutes ago, silverbell said:

 M.Seitzman might say there is no lead but if he axed MGH there would be no show left for them to salvage. Its enough to look and all the fanfiction to understand this. 80% of the stories had rorish neal and christa in some constellation if they took rorish out they would have no show left, so at least until the next season she is the lead. 
I think they will loose close to 30-40% of the ratings because of this stunt alone, the reruns in the summer will not help them bring more fans since all those episodes have neal and christa.
Instead of working hard to save all the fans for next year and  trying to get a few more during the summer reruns (and they will really need everyone) they are alienating them  and they will not be able to gain too much fans since their competition next year is going to be very tough. 

They will lose for sure. In september will come back to watch other part of viewers  who don't use internet. And believe me, there is such as group people. And they will have "a big unpleasant surprise". They won't know about changes and will feel like we, cheated especialy when if they will watch reruns in the summer. Once again will be aloud. I'm waiting only to read what they will think etc ..  watching will be totaly waste of time for me so I won't.

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6 hours ago, weathered1 said:

I only hope now that if their characters are addressed at all, it won't be something along the lines of Neal and Saint Ex blissfully reunited, and a heart-broken, devastated Christa quit her job rather than have a front row seat to it.  Afterward, Neal decided that this time, he was going to follow his one true love as she went back to Doctors Without Borders.  (Even just typing that out made me nauseous. I wouldn't put it past this show, though.)

You know, after what Michael Seitzman did and wrote, you can expect everything even that what you wrote. If it is to bring him and show better rating he'll do it without looking at the feelings of fans. I don't think that he is planning decent goodbye for Bonnie&Raza, it not his style.

The worst was after his tweets appeared many speculation about leaving Bonnie and Raza. Even this that they wanted leave show because they had offered new jobs! Bonnie's mom reacted on FB, and wrote when and how they got information about cutting their role. She couldn't stand bullshit. Of course this post .. was later deleted. But  you know if something goes viral never disappear, so her post appear once again as printscreen.

So after producer and CBS you can expect everything.

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Just now, silverbell said:

Yes I saw that the actress delivers her lines what a surprise ...  

"In this case it does. You may not like them but they score big with audiences. Repeatedly."
although Heather did not have a big role, in the last 4 episodes with Boris coming in the ratings only went down ' although I can not blame it all on Boris, I do not think these 2 "villains" scored big 

He has short memory or I don't know .. but what he wrote today is out of my mind. He digs a grave for himself.

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and last ... sorry I will stop, cuz I can't read what M.Seitzman tweets ..

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I cannot stand what he is tweeting now .. Now he loves Campbell and Heather ... and it's fault the press that we hate them

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32 minutes ago, Happy Harpy said:

Well, 6 tweeners unable to act their way out of a paperbag are worth 2 fourty-something great actors. I bet that all six newbies have less acting talent than R.Jaffrey's or B.Somerville's little finger. Sounds about a fair deal... especially if you're a fucking suit who doesn't watch TV and only sees numbers on paper. When will CBS suits understand that young demos will never watch their network unless it's via their seniors (parents, godparents, uncles, aunts, etc.). Imagine if they had made NCIS a kind of Baywatch? I'm *this close* to bet that Supergirl will have better ratings on the CW than on CBS.

This is going to be a trainwreck and I don't know if I should feel more terrible for Bonnie and Raza who were let go  for no reason or for Ben Hollingsworth, Melanie Chandra and Harry Ford who have no choice but go with the flow. (MGH, L.Guzman and W.Allen Young have their rep, they'll be unscathed).

I think Raza and Bonnie are classy people, and later or earlier will get new project .. but even if they could have opportunity to come back to show .. they won't do it. Bonnie stoped follow on Twitter most of main cast, and of course producer and CBS. She and Raza deleted of post where celebrating rewen season #2. But on Twitter is M.Seitzman "show". sorry I have to sent this ..

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20 minutes ago, Happy Harpy said:

About a send-off for Neal and Christa with the actors, M.Seitzman answered:

I'm trying to be fair and not blame him for what could very well be Executive Meddling. But I swear to God that I don't believe in, if he or anybody else at TPTB try to put the blame on Bonnie Somerville or Raza Jaffrey for the lack of send-off for their characters after the callous, scandalous way they were treated (and their characters, and their fans, and the loyal Original Recipe audience) I will blow a gasket.

Bonnie and Raza are classy people so they don't and won't agree to be treat like a garbage. they treated them like this. If CBS don't have enough money, let's not make next season. It's a lost money. That's CBS fault they cannot say goodbye in proper way. And most people know about that but after few last tweets of M.Seitzman I start thinking that his too.

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This time I could manage to do printscreen before he deleted this tweet.

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36 minutes ago, silverbell said:

It does not surprise me that is was the networks demands ...  
I don't know what you mean by " too much chemistry between them" but I think that is the main reason a lot of people were watching the show. I think a lot of people were shippers of Christa Neal or Leanne Neal .  
Too bad the network did not like it for some reason ... 

I don't know too but she only wrote me that "too much chemistry between them". It's only my opinion but for me, they want younger viewers so they want I don't know more sex, drama, triangle etc .. second GA. My friend is a writer and she thinks that they screwed up story for them in the end of season and they will have problems to fix it. But some more or less reliable  tv portals write that it was about money kind of ulitmatum "If you renew it, we'll ax a few people and make it cheaper". That why they told  so late about new season.

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I didn't see this, but my friend from twitter wrote me that M.Seitzman answered on tweet about "Older is better than younger". But he deleted it very quickly. But my friend was quicker and had seen  it and told me that it was not his decision (probably CBS) and there many reason but not age ..but one of them was too much chemistry between them. But we won't hear for sure other reasons but maybe they screwed up their storylines and now we have what we have.

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1 hour ago, Happy Harpy said:

Melanie Chandra and Harry Ford liked each one of my comments, too (Bonnie Somerville liked several and yes, I think she's upset, who wouldn't be) and I feel terrible because I'd love to go on supporting the remaining cast but I can't. It is business for the suits and all, but for me it's entertainment. I don't have enough time and I'm not enough of a masochist to watch a show I don't enjoy.

I kind of hope that any show will  be smart, nab both Raza Jaffrey and Bonnie Somerville, and make good use of what CBS wasted. (Is there a "delusional" stage of grief? That's where I am with this hope, sigh.)

They liked mines too,and Bonnie too. No wonder she doesn't write tweets and even comments about somebody decision cuz I'm sure it wasn't her. This woman has class. For her and Raza I think it was a big surprise too. I'm not a masochist too, to watch a show that I won't like and I won't. I hate watching actors  which I don't like, and won't like. First season, I watched in my  Thursday's morning (at work ;) ) and now it will be a lost of time.

I hope they will get new roles in other series and network. And CBS will regret later or earlier this decision. Happy Harpy, it's not "delusional" stage of grief, you are thinking logical and you are optimist like me and why we react so emotionally for every human stupidity.

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25 minutes ago, Carolinagirl1028 said:

You know now what truly just got me? I made a comment about how upset I was, that it's a big mistake, and how this is all due ageism and sexism and that such horrible changes will change the show completely from what it was and Harry Ford (who plays Angus) liked the comment and even went on to reply to another comment I made about not tuning in for season 2 saying how very sad the news was to them and to remember unfortunately they had no choice now but to go along and yet they still need the fans. That has to be a horrible feeling and just made me hurt for the cast, most of which have been so down to earth and involved with the fans. And now the fans they've connected to and have had supportive of them and the show are now outraged and withdrawing that support, rightly so of course but still. And they just have to go along with everything and be business as usual. You know when the cast feels that way it is truly the wrong decision. And that doesn't even begin to touch on how this must have hurt Bonnie Somerville and Raza Jaffrey, who just lost their jobs and got cut from a show they put their all into and campaigned along with fans for a new season. Just really takes it beyond these characters and makes it all the more gut wrenching. 

for me it's a slap on face for us fans, actors: Bonnie and Raza who supported to get new season. Probably other part of cast will know about us fan like Harry Ford .. and the worst Bonnie and Raza won't say about their leaving from serie .. Bonnie only likes tweets where she is mentioned about her and says nothing.

I don't know who decided about "new direction" season #2 but made public suicide for show .. I don't think that season #2 will be better with new cast, with younger man's leading role co-working with Dr Rorish. For me it's a replacement older by younger. how explain they are out from the show ? they were too much popular than others? If they want new changes ... let first they change page on CBS and remove main characters, unless they want to mislead the fans. But it will be cost them a lot in september and will be painfull. Nobody likes to be cheated.

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5 minutes ago, silverbell said:

Not even budget cuts seems to be the reason since they seem to bringing in even more actors. 
I think They are trying to lower the average age of the cast and they hope it will bring their ratings up.
It looks like they decided about these changes in the last week, but I really do not understand what made them come up with these changes .... it did not help the rating when they brought in all the new actors in the last 3 episodes why do they think this will ? 

if they want younger audience let they do second GA. I  know they decided about it last week. Ok, their decision but they had nothing learnt from their mistakes. It will be miracle if they will survive to 17 eps. They are not GA to make so big changes but what we know about it .. maybe they know better what we like or not .. *sarcasm*. For me CodeBlack is over I won't be watching .. read yes what people will write but not watch

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19 minutes ago, Happy Harpy said:

It was in a Deadline (pretty much the most reliable provider of TV news) and they had an interview with M.Seitzman, so it was taken from the horse's mouth. There with be four new first year residents, and they will be "heavily recurring" with aiming at being regulars, so I see a Saint Ex level of presence.

M.Seitzman twitted a few weeks back that they had an order of 22 episodes, "unless you all stop watching". Well...

well that last he is guaranteed.

I found something interesting what said M.Seitzman.

 

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“The concept of the show is for each season to begin on the first day for incoming freshman residents, just as in real life there is a cycle of residents coming in and residents either graduating or moving on,” Seitzman told Deadline. “Another hallmark of the show is that our fictional hospital is intensely populated. Not only do we average 800 extras per episode, but we have a revolving cast of doctors and nurses who enter and exit the show regularly. Bonnie Somerville and Raza Jaffrey are beloved by the audience, as well as the rest of the cast and crew. Their departure is painful for us, is no reflection on the extraordinary work they both did on the show.”

The reasons behind the casting changes are purely creative and not a sign of cutbacks as Code Black will boast one of the biggest casts on television, especially for a sophomore show, counting 13 regulars. It also features a very big guest cast, another way Seitzman and his team are trying to have the series reflect the real-life situation at a busy ER. (The 800 extras per episode support the title of the show, which indicates ER that is overwhelmed by patients.)

While going forward Code Black will continue to spend the lion share of its budget on cast, the series will likely be more nimble with contracts to allow the writers to take creative chances, like killing off Christina Vidal’s recurring character Gina in Season 1.

“The goal is to keep the audience on the edge of their seats, wondering if the jeopardy is real, and the only way to do it is to make it real,” Seitzman said.

so budget cuts ;) ?

and won't be 22 eps but only 17 !!!

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The medical drama has parted ways with series regulars Bonnie Somerville and Raza Jaffrey, while also promoting Boris Kodjoe to regular, The Hollywood Reporter has learned.

The move is part of a creative decision by producers to help relaunch the Marcia Gay Harden medical drama to reach a broader audience for what is said to be a 17-episode sophomore season. The series is also expected to add a few new series regular doctors and recurring interns.
 

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They (CBS or producer) want a "new"show .. will get it but I don't think they will get audience. They have lost now, and will loose in september where some of people who don't read internet suddenly will get "big suprise" without two main characters.

I read some strange articles, and I don't  know if it's true or not but will be 4 new younger residents. And was said that two main of character were a little old and probably 40-ty years resident is rather not real! I don't know and rather don't want to know about new direction of the show. But it starts look like other medical series without sens, not realistic.

After todays news I feel cheated, because I was supporting on Twitter for new season. Raza and Bonnie too and suddenly a big slap on the face.

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2 hours ago, Happy Harpy said:

Oh wow.

I can't believe they're doing that.

I love the other actors, but sorry, I'm gone.

You know for me show is over ... someone who decided to do that made suicide for show. I'm wondering when this decision was made. In few weeks Bonnie changes her description on Twitter's account and disappeard word Dr Christa ... But I can't believe ...

It's another link for this news http://tvline.com/2016/06/03/code-black-season-2-bonnie-somerville-raza-jaffrey-leaving/

and that it's interesting:

“Bonnie Somerville and Raza Jaffrey are beloved by the audience, as well as the rest of the cast and crew,” series creator Michael Seitzman told Deadline. “Their departure is painful for us, is no reflection on the extraordinary work they both did on the show.”

I don't believe that Bonnie and Raza decided to quit show and suddenly they won't play in next season  .. Bonnie was very active with fans and was writing, was hopeful about new season. And she stopped last week.

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2 hours ago, Happy Harpy said:

That's too bad, I love the two of them :( I wanted them as recurring, Mike as regular, and the nurses characters getting more development (Amy first and foremost, and also Risa and Isabel).

Kevin Dunn was busy in the season #1 so it' not such a big surprise we won't see him but Jeff Hephner. He will play in Chicago Med in season #2, I've seen tweets about it. I love them too, they added a lot of good to the show.

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If those two don't get back and if T.Dewey is too busy because of Casualty or other gigs (hoping I'm wrong) I can see how there might be screentime for recurring characters. Aside from Mike, I don't think that the show has space for a new regular unless the original cast gets less airtime and storylines which is not what I want.

Maybe original cast will get more airtime as was on the beginning of season #1. It worked very well, till to last 3 episodes, when too many new recurring characters were appeared. But till now I haven't seen any bad news on Twitter about T.Dewey so will see. But all depends on Micheal Seitzman and his concept for new season. But for sure, come back to the beginning will be what most of us want.

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According Micheal Seitzman's tweets we rather won't see or we will see very rarely: Kevin Dunn (Dr Mark Taylor) and Jeff Hephner (Ed Harbert)

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1 hour ago, Happy Harpy said:

New gig for actors of cancelled shows (wishful thinking) from TVLine

I know that Code Black is often a blip on the radar, but TV Line did do an article about her joining the show so...maybe it means that Saint Ex is gone? Can I hope to enjoy my show without soap this fall? *fingers crossed*

Wow .... that would be a news :D on *fingers crossed* and knock on wood and others ;).  I won't be crying if she leaves, that's for sure. But it sounds so good ...

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26 minutes ago, Happy Harpy said:

No need to be sorry about it with me, it's my number one wish now that the renewal is in. Or second, after keeping the whole original cast.

Also, I thought that the creator, Michael Seitzman, was a class act during the wait for renewal (I didn't like him much after the season finale). Someone tweeted him about the medical pilot that was picked up by CBS: "(title of the pilot) for the win". I found it quite rude since at the time, this pilot was reportedly in contention with Code Black, and M.Seitzman was extremely gracious about it.

I have mix feeling about Michael Seitzman. I think, on the beginning he didn't respect so much fans, his answers on Twitter were little rude. He had his vision about show.. his right, it's his show. But in the end of season and after season he realized that without fans show wouldn't be exist. Especially when in the end of season, after 3 last episodes rating were down because the fans didn't like his vision of show. He felt it is probably quite painful ;). Some tweets were "hot". In last days he was nice and very patient answering on question about renewing season. People change ;)

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13 minutes ago, Happy Harpy said:

 

It isn't mine either :) "Adding" shouldn't be "replacing", though. It depends if by "new characters" they mean "new regulars".

According to Jillian Murray's (Heather) Twitter, she'll be in S2. Tommy Dewey (Mike) tweeted that he's "thrilled for his pals at Code Black"...I want Mike to stay!

You know probably Mike will stay and Heather too. They maybe become new regulars. Bur for sure one woman's character should disappear for me .. sorry but I can't stand her :D

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34 minutes ago, Happy Harpy said:

RENEWED, per Deadline and TVLine!

Code Black renewed

Now, they talk about changes by "adding new characters". I hope it doesn't mean "replacing some of the original cast" and that it means truly "new" characters and not some old recurring ones that I want on a bus to Offscreenville like yesterday. I'll be reassured only when I'll see the cast list. My watch has not ended, sigh.

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"It is expected to undergo some changes for Season 2, with new characters added."

I think, this sentence can be understand in different ways. One is your interpretation but also can understand they do some changes in new characters that were added in season #1. But you know, I can be mistaken, English is not my mother language ;)

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1 minute ago, Happy Harpy said:

I rewatched the first 14 episodes more times than I should care to admit, 15 a couple of times, but never the last three in spite of their obvious qualities.  (...)

"Welcome to the family" like sings my favourite group A7X. I did this same ... and always stopped on episodes 15#. the Code Black has potential, yes that's true and why has been nominated to international contests for "The Best Drama", especially in Monte Carlo. Canceling would be kind of suicide for CBS. That's I believe that will be season #2 and I had read somewhere that producer Micheal Seitzman had signed a new two-year overall deal with ABC Studios in the end of April and this is a place where had been filmed episodes.