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Meri: " I wanted a Batman and got stuck with a Robyn."
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I'm not saying that JO isn't a liar or a catfisher or a manipulator. We all believe that about her.
But even in the worst of lies and deception, I truly believe there is some truth in lies..just to make it seem believable.
If you read the batman blog, listen to the texts, you actually get a better sense of what is true, than from watching the Tell All episode. In the blogs at least you see a timeline that adds up. Meri never answered a direct question and her hemming and hawing made it seem like she was evading the truth.
One thing that is very apparent, is that although Meri was victimized by JO, she was also an active participant. She spent hours talking, texting, with "Sam". She sent him pictures, wrote letters, shopped for Batman underoos...none of that was coerced. JO may have played Meri to get her to say some things, but there is no way anyone can make another person do all those things unless they want to.
Meri clearly must have lied to someone to get away for the Disney trip and obviously made plans to leave the family. Her possibly leaving the family was discussed in the Alaska trip episode. So with that information it is pretty hard for her to claim to be a totally innocent victim.
Her fear that JO would destroy the family? I think that had to do with the truth of this all coming out and them having issues with TLC.
Like someone said, maybe they feared something similar to what happened to the Duggars and them being cancelled. If they really felt threatened, they would have called the police.
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So, just because the person on the other end turned out to be a fraud and a fake that means that Meri wasn't emotionally cheating & had no intention of leaving? Meri's intentions and feelings which she admits were feeling of love are completely negated and of no consequence because the person on the other end wasn't real?
This statement perfectly sums up the situation. They are claiming her to be a victim due to a technicality, he wasn't real.
That excuses nothing. I am not saying she deserved to be duped or even brought it upon herself, but she did allow it to happen.
How could they leave out Disneyland. That clearly shows she intended to leave.
in reading the blog, I was amused about the batman talking about the plans they made...like what they were going to do with Meri's house.
Would she even have a claim on that house? She'd probably have to buy the family out.
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I'm not sure if this particular lie is more intended to make the catfish seem important to the readers of the blog, or to make Meri fear that someone from TLC is doubting her and she is being set up. Probably a little of both.
It isn't a stretch to think Meri is lying. She sat at that dinner table talking about leaving to be alone because she was feeling lost..that isn't exactly what was going on. She hid her affair.. So if she lies about that?
Did she admit going to Disney? and if you listen to the vms, she talks about plans to meet in Utah.
Either way, I doubt we are getting the whole truth from either side.
it's all spin.
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I kept having flashbacks during all those Owen scenes...
Especially shaking my head over Owen's yelling at Riggs over his Mom being HIS family and Not Riggs...you know the mother he didn't even visit for ages when he came back from Iraq?
Now he's a model son.
Also, Riggs taking the stake out of the firefighter reminded me of the icicle stuck in Cristina's stomach removed by Owen.
And then I was totally disgusted how Owen self-righteously is somehow upset at Riggs being a bad little doctor. Was he responsible for hurting his sister? If it was Rigg's wife, he has more say than a brother.
who knows, but I still wonder why Owen never got fired for sticking the whole staff on the below standard plane where people died.
Owen is the worst doctor, son and husband ever who shouldn't be judging anyone.
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There's so many things that are wrong in Meri's version that it's pretty hard to trust anything she says. And I've never liked her, so it's easy for me to find fault.
When she first started talking about divorcing Kodi, for the good of Robyn's kids, I thought something was fishy. Every time she said it wasn't about her feelings, and that it was all about the kids, I shook my head.
Since Day 1, everything has been about Meri.
If we believe anything from the Batman Blog, then it's clear this affair, or whatever you want to call it, has been going on for longer than Meri admits to.
If she was so unhappy, and her marriage has been over for years, then why make such a big deal over do it for Robyn's kids. She wanted out and the martyr act is ridiculous.
Waking up and feeling lonely doesn't just happen in plural families, or at empty nest time. I know a lot of women who gave up everything, friends, career, to be married and raise kids, and wake up one day feeling lost. It happens.
And most of us don't have sister wives we can hang out with or 10 other children to get invested in.
If Meri was pulling away from the family, how can she then claim to be all about the family. It doesnt make sense at all.If she was that unhappy, she should have left years ago for herself, not for some guy.
And the whole IVF situation is just as crazy. Isn't she like 44 yrs, old? who waits until they are in their 40s to try that? All that IVF stuff was supposedly a big issue while Meri was so unhappy and wanted out, so which is it?
None of it makes sense and I really have no sympathy for her.
If you all decide to visit that blog, do yourself a favor and avoid the pic section. The pics she sent literally made me ill.
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If TLC cancels the show, they can all get a gig on E with the sex peddling Kardashians.
Isn't Kylie underage?
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Who knows what happened if anything.
But TMZ using the word Allegedly and no lawyers willing to the the case and there was no case.
Police reports mean nothing...hearsay at this point..it's not evidence of a crime.
Anyone can make in a police report about anything.
If nothing came of it then, what is going to come of it ten years later?
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an old police report, no charges ever filed, Josh was a minor, the statute of limitations is over, children and family services not involved. Actual evidence anything occurred?
I don't see anything coming of it, except maybe a defamation case.
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where there is smoke ,....
There has been stories for years about him and younger girls. His wife got fed up.
Maybe the Amanda Jordan blind/story is true.
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Page Six, is that you?
This doesn't mean that ABC wanted to get rid of him, this just means that contracts can be broken, as with everything. Who knows how much ABC fought for him to stay or not. Perhaps this was Shonda saying "either he goes or I'm...outish?" and obviously Shondaland as a whole brings more revenue than PD himself. Or that Shonda found herself in a crossroads (no pun intended) and really was like "I need to kill Derek or this show won't go on further 'cause I'm out of ideas." and ABC was like...we want GA for longer, so later Patrick. Contracts have been broken multiple times. Given that ABC did want to retain him (as by the time he was dismissed, his deals weren't going with him), I'm guessing ABC did this somewhat relunctantly.
Oh yes, the huge ego thing. When it comes to divorce gossip, I am always skeptical as whoever is the one being attacked, might be for a malice purpose, may it be take the custody away from the parent or have more money in the divorce settlement by attacking the public persona. Patrick stupidly (I adore the man but this was stupid) did not sign a prenup, so connect the dots there.
As for the cheating, dude, come on. Unless PD was paying prostitutes for Senators and himself and getting off taxes for that while funding a terrorist organization, I really don't believe this influences anything with the show. I have absolutely no idea what does the cheating/alleged cheating have to do with the show and why he was fired. Does ABC have a "don't put your man parts into someone else" policy? I mean, what the hell. There is no proof or even rumors about it, and even if he did, what? Does he have to go "I did not have sexual relations with that woman?"
As for the latter, if SR felt "threatened" by PD's career, then she needs a shrink, not to fire him because of that. This doesn't make sense at all.
Also, I think the accusation that PD's personal life and past (very past) doings is the reason or influences how Shondaland and ABC choose to proceed as very tacky. Unless that translated into actual work issues, it's just awful gossip. So I'll leave it there to not fuel the fire.
Burning down someone's comment, then saying you won't fuel the fire...lol accusing someone of being a shill? Check yourself.
Don't take it so personally. It was an opinion, an informed one, not an emotional one.
If you take the time to google, and actually get some information to back up your comments, instead of being a bleeding heart, you may be open to real conversation.
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That Ausiello stuff, to me, says ABC wanted to get rid of him. 'contracts are made to be broken" etc.
I think his huge ego finally did him in. I recall the articles about his divorce, and that is one thing, they all made note of...that his wife was fed up with his big ego and had enough of the cheating, going back for years. With all the racing and the new developmental deal, maybe he thought he was bigger than the show. We know Shonda ain't having that. She is the Sun.
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I have been reading the recaps, and then delete without watching. I can't stand Margeaux or Margo, She opens her mouth and I'm annoyed. Kill her please.
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Scandal also has 22 episodes versus Grey's 24.
Grey's usually shoots up through the last week of April, so I don't see that much more of a difference this season compared to those previous. They always tend to cut it close right at the very end, though if shooting creeps into next week then they will be cutting it extra close. No matter what, post production is there til the very end.
The finale has also has aired later in May than this season...it just seems like in years past, they were 3 weeks in the can before an episode aired. Filming the finale into May, with the finale airing a week earlier seems odd.
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ABC didn't write that article. It seems like it was the writer guess-timating what PD would have been paid if he stuck around.
I'd like to know how much ABC is spending on these last few episodes, with all the rewrites, scrapped story lines and extra location shoots..to salvage this season.
I thought I read last month that Shonda was doing final editing on the season finales?..then this all came about.
Weren't they all on hiatus at this time last year?
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If PD did something that couldn't be forgiven (is there such a thing in Hollywood? and how could we not have heard about it?), just send Derek to DC, let the show move forward until Merder fans get used to his absence, then kill him offscreen. Shonda had choices.
People pay to cover things up. That is how Hollywood works. Who knows what Shonda's reasoning is....maybe she got tired of working around him or maybe he is that diva jerk. There have been plenty of blinds and rumors for years, that he isn't a very good guy.
Maybe Shonda is personal friends with his wife. ha
I read that one story where he talked about being spread too thin, and that he wanted to spend more time with his kids...then left for Dubai to race. odd.
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If PD did something that couldn't be forgiven (is there such a thing in Hollywood? and how could we not have heard about it?), just send Derek to DC, let the show move forward until Merder fans get used to his absence, then kill him offscreen. Shonda had choices.
People pay to cover things up. That is how Hollywood works. Who knows what Shonda's reasoning is....maybe she got tired of working around him or maybe he is that diva jerk. There have been plenty of blinds and rumors for years, that he isn't a very good guy.
Maybe Shonda is personal friends with his wife. ha
I read that one story where he talked about being spread too thin, and that he wanted to spend more time with his kids...then left for Dubai to race. odd.
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I don't know why asking for time off for personal reasons makes them "above" the rest of the cast.
Easy, when you consider three women delivering babies, teach took off a matter of weeks (ellen pretaped episodes), when others took extended periods of time for car racing, adoption, marital strife, rehab etc. Seriously? lol
It just doesn't seem to be on the same scale.
Plus, on one hand people are of the opinion that the show can't exist without Derek..but in actuality, they have done pretty well this season with him being there only half the time.
Then there is the human side of it...the rest of the cast sees him getting paid in excess of 300K an episode for not being there...while they are working 15 hours a day for considerably less and working around his schedule when he is there..
There has to be animosity...which might explain why nobody seems to be all broken up about his leaving,
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I think you mean when he tweeted a pic of mark/eric dane in the bed intubated/in a coma at the beginning of season 9. i just think that patrick is not a machiavellian guy, he doesn't overthink things. he must be overcharged with questions, and sometimes he just slip things up. he's human. it still does not justifies this whole mess, to me.
that's it, thanks.
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In regard Patrick and his supposed spoilers...that ferry pic wasn't the first time he tweeted a set pic that spark conversations among the fans.
I just can't recall what those pics were in the past. Was there one he tweeted and wound up deleting it? last season, maybe?? anyone??
As far as Shonda's treatment of cast members. I think she dislikes any cast member thinking they above the rest of the cast or the show.
Everytime a cast member asked for time off, or took time off, their characters wound up gone.
Heigl, Chyler, Dane and then Patrick. While female characters like Jcap, Ellen and Sarah all had babies and didn't seem to take more than a few weeks for maternity leave...all still around.
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Patrick is continuing a relationship with ABC. Why would they be anything but positive.
I think Patrick wanted to stay, but on his terms. ABC and or Shonda accommodated him for awhile until they couldn't accommodate him anymore. It made no sense to be paying him all that money for a part time actor.
There are thoughts that time away, (in DC) was a suspension? I don't know, but it is clear Shonda was fed up with it.
What confuses me is all the comments about Patrick making all the money for ABC, like he carried the show. He was part of the ensemble, and I think Sandra Oh was more important to the show that Patrick ever was.
When the show first aired...people tuned in for all the positive reviews. It wasn't over a star studded cast. Heigl attracted more attention than anyone. The majority of the cast was unknown, including Ellen...and Patrick's career was non existent.
If the show survived without Sandra, I don't think Patrick being gone will make much a difference. There is a faction that believes he was phoning it in last few seasons, and are glad he is gone.
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Sounds like lots of changes are being made on the fly with them filming so late.
Anything can happen. I doubt they would be filming on location for the finale if no doctors weren't involved...like more casualty or cliffhangers. I am getting nervous. lol
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So they are filming today, accident scene at some mall. This sounds like the freeway accident in 11x23 sides.
And this is being broadcast this week?
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I mean come on.. there were so many things wrong with this episode. So. Many. I keep having to refresh because everyone keeps making awesome points and I'm like, "oh, yeah, right.." like Derek who is super duper smart to be the best neurosurgeon ever, makes a STUPID decision to stop in the middle of the road and LOOK FOR HIS PHONE? The hell? That..makes sense. Also lets not add in the fact that okay, smart people can make rash second situations.. but Derek has been though a LOT OF INSANE STUFF already in his life, I would think he would know freak accidents happen, considering, you know.. like getting shot, and a plane crash, he wouldn't do something like this.
Oh, whatever. This just makes me more and more mad.
And no, I'm not surprised it happened. I'm just mad that people always have to die and also.. that this was a bad episode. It was bad. It was badly written.
You're right. There were so many mistakes due to the episode being rushed. They never are filming this late before hiatus, so that says changes were made late.
I don't mind he was killed off, but it was badly edited. There was way too much time at the accident scene, no urgency at all. The hospital was creepy and so were his voice overs.
On the error side...when he was driving, I kept thinking..10 miles over the speed limit? wth Winding roads, never. Then when you see an idiot swerving around, you stop. He was following way too close. Then he gets out and doesn't pull car off road? never.
the funny part was, ambulance is leaving...you see the vette on road...Der walks back to his car, wrecked car already on flatbed tow truck. LOL
For them showing the radio info, why wasn't his phone hooked up to that. Isn't driving, talking or texting illegal?
I think the episode would have been better if it was mixed with some other characters doing stuff back at hospital..too much time at car wreck and depressing stuff. it would have been so easy to drop kids off at Callies or call Amelia..something to have it have more warmth.
Just like the plane crash episode, this one will be brutal to rewatch.
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S08.E05: Another Catfishing
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Correct me if I am wrong. But didn't Meri originally meet JO during some meetings at the Vegas house about getting investors for some pyramid/money making scheme?
I really haven't paid much attention to to catfish timeline either. But it's clear that nothing adds up when you compare things Sam/Jo claimed, things that already aired on the show, and the revisionist history they are claiming now. Meri said she knew early on the Sam was a woman, but yet during the Alaska trip, she never let on to that. She was ready to leave. If Jackie and others were warning her online, how come this is the first we heard of it. Even Mariah had expressed doubts about Sam to Meri, so it seems like everyone had a clue but Meri.
I am also not buying her loneliness or damaged feelings over the divorce. IMO all wives should be equal. not ruled by who got there first. The issues over Meri insisting she had equal monies and special privs isolated her from the others. If she had one child, why didn't she pitch in more. She was not working outside the house when the latest youngsters were born. It seems ridiculous to keep claiming empty nest where there are 10 or so kids next door needing for attention.