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2 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:
We never saw Faith or Bree's conception scenes in the buiks either. And showing the conception of Willie was integral to Jamie's story--in that he was fucking threatened and blackmailed into doing so because Geneva didn't want to be deflowered by a man thrice her age. I will forever be grateful that the totality of what happened in the buik didn't make it to the screen.
I always thought Faith's conception was at the end of "Outlander" in the monastery the night Claire brings Jamie back from near death. They stayed in the monastery for a few weeks for him to completely heal. So based on that time frame and this passage on the last page, "The move above was a Christmas moon, so large as almost to fill the empty window. It seemed no wonder that the tides of sea and woman should be subject to the pull of that stately orb, so close and so commanding. But my own tides moved no longer to that chaste and sterile summons, and the knowledge of my freedom raced like danger through my blood. "I have a gift for you too," I said suddenly to Jamie. He turned toward me and his hand slid, large and sure, over the plane of my still-flat stomach"
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On 10/8/2017 at 1:06 PM, Tanner said:
Sadly, the biggest goof for me was when Bree suggested they watch A Charlie Brown when it was first broadcast in 1970.
Nope, first airing was Dec 9th, 1965 on CBS.
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22 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:
Regarding the bolded, I couldn't disagree more. They have deviated so far from the buik!Frank to the point of him being a different character. None of Frank's flaws were shown in the show. Except for him telling Claire he only wanted children that were biologically his, then accepting and loving Bree as his own.
I don't disagree with you in regards to Frank, but like Nidratime said, it would be difficult to really sum up Frank in the books in the short time frame without making him seem cartoonish.
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I've loved Season 3 so far. I think TPTB have had a Sisyphean task of not deviating to far from the book to keep the book purists happy but at the same time keeping within the time constraints. I missed a lot of the book interaction between Jamie and Lord John. The book(s) flesh out their relationship in such a way that I don't think the show had the liberty to show.
I'm firmly in the "Yay Murtaugh is alive!" camp. I hope that he isn't morphed into the Duncan Innes character and I'd be happy with him staying alive just long enough to meet up with Jamie and Claire in the colonies.
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Do you think they are going to introduce Tom Christie at Ardsmuir? He ends up being pretty pivotal later on. I haven't seen any casting info though.
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Nidra, you beat me to it. I was just coming to post the same info.
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Did anyone else think Horrocks would have made a good Stephen Bonnet? When he was talking, before being run through, I realized he was exactly as I imagined Bonnet to be, mannerisms and all. When Horrocks mentioned going off to the colonies, I was almost sure he would become the Stephen Bonnet character. Then Ian ran him through, so that theory was dead (har!).
YES! I was thinking the same thing.
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I read exactly one interview with Diana when I first started reading the books and decided very quickly I was never going to read or watch her interviews again. She's very creative and has written some wonderful things, but her personality is such that she actually spoils my enjoyment of the series if I pay attention to her 'behind the scenes' stuff.
I feel the same way. She's really really smart, and at the same time she knows it. Sometimes her lack of humility in interviews is offputting to me and I end up disappointed.
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I didn't get the vibe that it WAS Faith, just that it was the name brought Jamie and Claire to attention.
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I agree, WatcherTina! If it's written well (which it is) and cast well (so far, so good), I think it can be done effectively.
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I have to agree with WatcherTina above.
Book 8, gives the strongest evidence that Hal does suspect during the conversation in which Hal asks about William and says "He is your son, is he not?" or something close to that effect. I don't have it right in front of me at the moment.
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For what it's worth, Ron Moore has said in a few interviews that Season 1 ends just as Book 1.
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I guess they were looking for the Golden Globes.
You owe me a keyboard. ;)
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I'm with you Tif. I love love love David Tennant. But he's the 10th freaking Doctor Who AND he played Hamlet for the Royal Shakespeare Company. His profile is sufficiently high. I'm casting all my votes for Sam because he's a completely unknown actor who landed the role of a lifetime and is doing a GREAT job. I want to do anything I can to boost awareness of him and of the show. So he gets all my votes.
And how the heck could you game those captcha codes anyway? They are a pain in the ass. I'm so grateful when the numeric ones appear. I have to give up when the "bad script" ones show up because I find them so hard to decipher.
That's exactly my thought. People are "Sam Who?" on David Tennant's posts about the poll. I'm a huge fan of both, but I'm all about boosting Sam right now.
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Some fans on David Tennant's facebook page are accusing Outlander fans of cheating captcha codes to put Sam ahead in the BBC poll.
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Okay, but during those 20 years that will apparently be featured in season 3, we're going to see Jamie married to someone else, someone else having his baby, Claire doing her thing in the 20th century, and the 2 main characters with little to no screen time together? I think that's where most viewers will stop watching. Doesn't matter that they've been prepared for it. I can't think of any TV show featuring a romance that has ever tried anything like that and survived.
If Season follows Book 3, then the first few episodes could be Claire finding out what happened to Jamie and the wacky hijinx that ensue while trying to get back to 1768 Scotland. Then it could be Claire finding him at A. Malcolm's Ye Olde Print Shop and then while they are finding their way with one another, we find out through Frankback type scenes what happened over the past 20 years. There is A LOT to cover in Voyager and I think that this is the most plausible scenario to have it flow to get through Scotland, Young Ian and the trip to Jamaica, etc.
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One question, when Claire was sleeping upstairs at Jocastas after the wedding and she had fought with Jamie over the rings (BTW what an ass he was in those scenes) someone came into the room and was touching her feet etc, was it ever resolved who that was? Or do we find out in a later book?
I am almost positive I read that Diana Gabaldon said it was Jamie. I think it was in her compuserve forum.
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And Sam is leading the pack into the third round of the BBC America Anglo Male tournament.....he's been way ahead of the entire field for the first two rounds,
The funny thing is that Scots aren't really true Anglos.
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How funny! I was just thinking of the Creek this morning from out of the blue and then this gets posted.
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Isn't Murtagh the only one that actually dies at Culloden? I thought pretty much everyone else bites it before the battle.
Murtaugh is the only one at Culloden for sure. I'm not sure that we know what happens to Willie and Angus in the book. Willie is the one that finds Jamie and Claire and Dougal the night before.
Rupert is before that even, at Falkirk,
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I'm maybe a third of the way through, and so far I'm liking this more than the last two for the most part. I admit I've started skimming William's chapters quite a bit. I don't mind getting to know him in theory, and if fact what I read of him at the beginning wasn't bad at all - he's young and therefore sometimes very stupid but not egregiously so IMO. I want to get to know Jamie's son. But I want to get to know him as Jamie's son. His story is, so far anyway, completely separated from everyone else I actually care about (although I see that changes eventually). So it's not really that I dislike his chapters on their own merit, I just resent that I'm not spending time with the other characters I'm invested in.
This is how I feel about William in this book. Completely. However, in the next one I enjoyed him more, though I do admit that upon re-reads I have skimmed through portions of his story line.
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I'm not always 100% on board with his line delivery, but every one of his physical acting tics have been spot on. The wedding episode especially, when he gets her out of her corset and feels her up for the first time, Claire's ready to get the show on the road and tells him that it's her turn to undress him, and his reaction is just so genuine and overwhelmed, like his brain has stopped functioning and "oh my God, she let me touch her."
Even though they haven't given him many interesting things to do, Sam's really brought some life to the character that makes him feel much more real than book Jamie was at times.
I agree with you. Sam's line delivery in parts isn't exactly how I took them in the book, but the facial expressions and physical acting tics have been spot on. I read an interview where he incorporated some of Jamie's book mannerisms into the show. Stuff that Ron didn't have, like Jamie's twitching fingers when he's stressed. That's all Sam.
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No, April 4th is the second half of the first season. I think i read that they will start filming the 2nd season in January.
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When it comes back in April, is that for the rest of season 1 or the start of season 2?
The rest of Season 1.
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S04.E05: Savages
in Outlander
At first I was thinking Malva.