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Just finished binge watching S4, and, man, it was not good. I struggled to stay engaged in the bomb story which became increasing convoluted as it wore on. There were two separate bombers? Big Dick/Perry Walsh and the pizza delivery dude? Who is some kind of evil mastermind? Whaaat?
I tried to drum up some interest in Matty, but, aside from feeling some initial sympathy b/c she lost her father, I really didn't care that much about her story.
I'm assuming RT wants the viewers to be more engaged in the mystery than anything else, but the last one I was truly into was Lily's death in S1. The bus crash of S2 didn't really pop for me until the very end, and, although the rape story of S3 had its moments, I couldn't have cared less about the dean's murder and the TA stuff.
I watched this show for its relationships. Veronica/Keith, Veronica/Logan, Veronica/Duncan, Veronica/Wallace, Weevil/Logan, Weevil/Veronica, Logan & the Echolls, and so on. Those various relationships were the ones that kept me tuning in. No offense to RT, but if he wants the audience to be ALL about the mystery/crime-solving aspects of VM, he's got to write mysteries that are as compelling as the one in S1. Otherwise, folks are going to be more about the relationships they like most on the show (in this case, Logan/Veronica & Veronica/Keith). And they'll be disappointed when their characterizations and deaths are written as an afterthought.
It's clear that RT had no idea what to do with Logan. He'd skipped past his actual evolution as a character in the movie - suddenly he went from a vibrant, charismatic fuck up with anger issues to a new calmer, more subdued version of himself. Because he'd already given him all of this off-screen growth! there was nothing left to write for him as a character in S4, especially since all of his family is dead or off-screen. So, it's either break up he & Veronica, revert Logan back to his old ways, or kill him off.
JD was even playing him differently imo. There was less spark, vibrancy, & energy in his performances. It's so freaking obvious when you watch S1-3 and then movie/S4Logan. Yeah, there were some quips here and there, and a glimpse of who he used to be when he punched the cabinet and had rough sex with V. But he'd become so neutered as a character that they had Veronica even SPEAK to the change in him.
I HATE that Logan was killed off. I loved him. But they'd written him into a corner that they couldn't really get out of w/o reverting him back to his bad boy ways, which I'm assuming viewers would have had an issue with as well. I think RT actually thought he was throwing a bone to the audience by shuffling past their very real relationship issues and giving them a happy wedding before blowing him up. The bottom line is, I think they were done with the Logan character after the movie. S4 was a slow death for him.
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This is one of my favorite eps, if for no other reason than Veronica's hair is the exact length it should be always! Yes, shallow, I know. But she looks fabulous. And I really liked Jackie this ep. Also Weevil's little niece was adorable.
Logan/Hannah were interesting. She was very sweet and trusting, and they had chemistry. I think that relationship revealed that he isn't as bad as he thinks he is. He tried to manipulate a sweet girl to his own ends and ended up falling for her. Unfortunately, due to his machinations, that relationship was doomed to fail.
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Recently binged this series and really enjoyed it. The film, I thought, was a watered down version of the show so I'm hoping the revival is edgier and more interesting, and takes more risks. Would love to see what became of Duncan and (little) Lilly, although I understand that the Duncan actor is no longer in the biz. I'd also like to see the soapy/relationship elements be better woven into the overall story, instead of taking it over as it seemed to do in the third season. I liked the Logan/Veronica romance as teens; I'd like to see if they'd be truly compatible as adults. Generally, people grow and change as adults and want different things; the movie seemed to really gloss over this. Would also love to see what Wallace has been up in his personal life, as more than just Veronica's BFF. Basically, I hope the new series has engaging, well-thought out writing, and isn't so concerned with pleasing fans. Usually, when the writing is strong, the fans are pleased, regardless, even if some don't quite get everything they want.
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30 minutes ago, VCRTracking said:
Dany's never been one of my favorite characters but I did like seeing her journey over the past 8 years and I would have much preferred her to get the Iron Throne over Jon. I don't hate her after this, I just feel sad for her.
I loved her that first season. She was really rootable then. I feel like her journey meandered for a while but I had a renewed interest in her when Tyrion became her hand. When she told Jon, "I don't have love here," my heart kind of broke for her. Because it was true. At this point, I think Grey Worm is her only true ally.
Also, Jon is a douche for telling her he loved her when he so obviously does not anymore. That's pretty fucked up.
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28 minutes ago, VCRTracking said:
Honestly the death of civilians from above reminded me more of 20th century war. The Blitz of London, the firebombing of Dresden and Tokyo, the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the bombing of North Vietnam and Cambodia, up until the drones in the Middle East.
Damn. I can't argue with this at all. 😕
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5 minutes ago, RealReality said:
I don't think it's right or reasonable to blame cersei for danys actions. I blame cersei for putting her people in harm's way and I blame Dany for going overboard in burning everyone alive. She is an adult that wants to rule over thousands of people, she can't lay blame for her actions at the feet of everyone else if she wants to be a leader.
Being a leader is more than having 50 titles, 3 dragons, and a bitchin wardrobe.
She also doesn't get a pass because "everyone was doing it" she knows better. As a woman who was basically enslaved to a man and freed slaves, she knows that "but we always did things this way!" isn't a reasonable excuse.
Burning the city was illogical and mean. There was zero reason to burn that city after they surrendered. There was never a reason to Target women and children. None. So either she chose to do it, which means she is evil. Or she is compelled to do it by some unknown force, which makes her mad.
There is no way she is just a super nice, average, normal person driven to roasting frightened women and children alive as they flee for their lives.
Oh, I wasn't meaning to say that Cersei is responsible for the actions Dany took - just that she is the reason they were in harm's way in the first place. Cersei was obviously A Bad Ruler. She didn't care about the people. She didn't care about anything except she and Jaime and her children at first, and then herself and maintaining her grip on the IT in the later seasons. Dany is responsible for how far she took things, absolutely.
After 8 seasons of watching Daenerys, I don't think she's evil. I think you can go scorched earth and not be evil. But, is she fucked up right now? Yessir.
I also have to say - I thought Emilia was brilliant tonight. I honestly think this is the best acting she's done on the show. She was so freaking raw in that early Dany/Tyrion scene. She was amazing.
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I was thinking back to when Daenerys was in Qarth and said that "when her dragons were full grown, she'd take back what was stolen from her and destroy those who had wronged her". That she'd "lay waste to armies and burn cities to the ground".
At the time, I cheered her on. I thought that she was basically talking shit. Yes, she'd kill her enemies. But, there's no way she'd kill innocents. But, when faced with the prospect of burning a city to the ground - including innocents and soldiers who had surrendered, she did, in grief and anger, what she said she would do.
I don't think she's evil or necessarily mad. I think she feels she was driven to cross a line she was willing to cross - if she was angered/grieving/betrayed/etc. enough to do so.
It's the difference between she and Jon, or someone like Ned. There are lines they simply would not cross, no matter what.
Looking at this from 20th century eyes, it's fucked up. But, in medieval times, this was common place in times of war. Additionally, to be absolutely fair to Daenerys, it is Cersei who put these people's lives at risk in the first place, by betraying her pact with the North last season, killing Missandei in front of her, and being so filled with delusion, hubris, and psychopathy, that she felt she would win no matter what. With zero concern for the lives she was risking.
I'm kind of left in a place where I can't really condemn Dany for being who she always was. The Mad King's daughter. But, is she the right person to rule the Seven Kingdoms? What kind of ruler do these people actually want? Someone capable of this kind of carnage who wants the IT so desperately? Someone incapable of crossing the kind of lines Dany crossed tonight who doesn't want to rule? Someone else? IS there anyone else who should rule?
I do think all of this could have been written and crafted better. But, I can't say it's completely out of left field.
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33 minutes ago, Lillith said:
Arya is the only person not burned to death and finds a white fucking horse she trots off on.
This legit had me LMAO.
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20 minutes ago, Bianca Castafiore said:
I know that what I'm about to say is an unpopular opinion but here we go. If the spoilers are correct I don't have a problem with the way the story is going to end. In fact I like it. I think it's fitting and it makes total sense to me. So I'm gonna sit in the corner along with the other 5 ppl who share the same opinion.
I’ll join you at that table. I’ve expected a WTFery-ever after ending since Catelyn, Robb, & Robb’s wife & unborn child got gutted at the Red Wedding. If I had any illusions as to anything that would remotely come across as a happily ever after in the end, it was put to bed after those scenes. Hell, I went into this season thinking the Night’s King or Cersei were going to triumph over everyone, so the fact that the NK is gone & that Cersei actually gets hers in the end is pretty optimistic for this show.
What I’m most intrigued about is the Faceless man spoiler I heard and whether that’s going to come to fruition. Because that would just blow my mind.
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Although I think the feast ran a bit too long, I loved the scenes of Tormund being Jon's hype man. It's easy to forget that Jon was betrayed and stabbed to death not long ago; the fact that so many of his people love and rally behind him now is really kind of wonderful. Say what you will about Jon, he's a genuinely good, honorable guy who deserves all of this. Sansa's, "Go on, I believe in you," when Tormund was egging him on to chug the horn was quietly awesome. As was Tormund toasting Dany, and Dany saluting Arya in turn.
Good times.
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I actually felt that Gendry and Arya's scenes this ep were way more adorable and heartfelt than their sex scene. I didn't get the impression that he was a dope - this is Lady Stark, the badass warrior he'd bonded with years ago who just killed the Night King. And they had sex! Of course, he's besotted. Arya is AWESOME. And unlike any woman ever. He's also in a position to provide for her in the manner to which she was accustomed, prior to...everything.
I get it. I thought it was incredibly sweet. But not for Arya.
If only he'd said, "Hey, after this is over, let's go on adventures together and see what the world has to offer"? She would have been with it. If only.
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19 minutes ago, Cheezwiz said:
I'm convinced Jaime headed South on a suicide mission to kill Cersei, not to rejoin her. He is tormented by self-hatred at this point, and this is going to be his attempt at atonement. I think he might have wanted poor Brienne to believe he was callously discarding her so that she wouldn't try to follow him and put herself in danger. I think she might pursue him. Clearly he's toast, and I think his wish of "dying in the arms of a woman he loves" will come true. He will die trying to kill Cersei, or trying to protect Brienne.
The way Brienne's face crumpled just killed me. She's loved him for so long and he finally wanted her. He made love to her and was going to stay with her. And then...fucking Cersei.
But, to be able to have a real relationship, you have to believe you deserve happiness, and Jaime does not. He doesn't think he's a good man and doesn't think he should live happily ever after with Brienne. So he's choosing Cersei and death. Maybe that was always Jaime's fate. But, it's so sad to see, given how much he's been through and that he doesn't recognize that he actually deserves what he has with Brienne.
28 minutes ago, Cheezwiz said:And Dear Show: couldn't someone have given poor Ghost a bath? Couldn't he have been given at least a scratch behind the ears or a tummy rub from Jon, before he was "sent away to a farm in the country up North". All we saw was a shot of him peeking around some soldiers and whimpering sadly. Also yelling at my screen at that scene. Dammit Jon! I know CGI is expensive, but some final words would have been nice!
I wanted a hug between Ghost and Jon so badly. I remain completely puzzled by Jon's lack of affection toward Ghost. It was all very strange and not explainable.
30 minutes ago, Cheezwiz said: Tormund: The Duckie of the North (80's reference for you young'uns).
Haha. Jaime is a weird combination of Steff, Blane, & Keith from SKOW. Brienne is TOTALLY Watts. Bigtime Watts.
34 minutes ago, Cheezwiz said: I'm honestly bored with the whole Jon/Dany/claim to the throne conundrum. It's easily solved, and any obstacles are just plot contrivances at this point.
I fucking hate it and can't wait til it's over. All I want is for Tyrion and Sansa to go off and fuck like rabbits. I was so hoping for Tyrion to go to her and broach the issue of their being together again. They would be absolute heaven.
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7 minutes ago, Scaeva said:
The main issue with making the north independent is that while Jon could be trusted to keep the peace with Westeros, would his sons or grandsons? His descendants would have claims to the Iron Throne every bit as strong as Jon's, based on their descent from Rhaegar, and there is no guarantee they'd be motivated by a sense of honor or familial love for their relative on that other throne.
It could also encourage other lords and ladies of Great Houses to push their own claims for separate kingdoms. Rather than granting Westeros a long respite from war it may create many more opportunities for internal strife.
I'd totally be cool with the Seven Kingdoms fracturing in the series' ending, but can sort of side with Daenerys not having any of this independent north business.
If Dany is a good and fair ruler of the Six Kingdoms, and maintains a good relationship with the North, and her sons/daughters and grandchildren do the same, I see no reason why an alliance wouldn't continue throughout the Stark lineage.
Truthfully, any Kingdom at any time could revolt, whether Dany maintains the Seven Kingdoms or not. I see a greater possibility of revolt if Dany forces the North to bend the knee when they are craving their independence than not. Since she is down to one dragon, I honestly think it's in her best interest to release them, garner their goodwill, and treat them as independent allies, rather than forcing them to be part of her Kingdom.
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10 minutes ago, tv-talk said:
with her brother married to the Queen, the North would be independent in everything but name. She basically pulled a Littlefinger and is hoping somehow the information gets Dany killed. The WORST thing about this episode is we didnt get the convo between Jon, Sansa, and Arya after Bran broke the news. Would have loved to see Sansa and Arya make case to Jon that for sake of their family he had to take the IT. Instead we get Gendry asking Arya to marry him. Great.
I guess GRRM is insisting some good scenes are left for him to write.
But, by the same token, if Dany gave the North independence, they'd be her allies in every way except that they were duty-bound to do so b/c she ruled them. No one would forget the way she and her armies and dragons came through for them vs the NK, and, moreover, Jon would be King in the North, therefore insuring that they would always have her back. I actually think the Northern Lords would be more inclined to rally for her if she'd given them their freedom. She would literally be breaking the chains that she'd claimed she wanted to do, so many years ago.
But, I agree on the lack of reaction scenes to Sansa & Arya finding out that Jon is the heir and their cousin, not their brother. Those would have been fantastic. I think they could have shelved some of the overlong feast/reveling scenes for that.
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8 minutes ago, tv-talk said:
The thing is, if she had just kept the secret she would have basically been Queen of the North and safe. Instead she undercut the very force sent to rid the world of Cersei. The very force made up of her own people. It doesnt make sense unless she is hoping 1)Dany is betrayed and killed then 2)Jon simply comes back North and 3)Cersei decides to just leave them alone.
The only reason she'd do that is if what she really wants is for a Stark to rule the 7 Kingdoms.
But the North wouldn't be independent under Daenerys. That's the issue. She wants them to be free to govern themselves, and Dany is opposed. So, as Dany continues to make a grab for the entire pie, Sansa will do the same - through Jon. One of them would need to give way and both are unwilling.
Personally, I see Sansa's side more simply because what she wants is quite easy for Daenerys to give. Even if the North were independent, they would always come to her aid in times of war b/c of Jon (who would be King in the North), so it feels like a simple conversation between the two women would resolve so much of this.
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21 minutes ago, Brn2bwild said:
I hate that Dany and Sansa can't just talk to each other normally. I hate that no two woman on this show can have a casual conversation. Even men who despise each other on GoT can usually bond over how long their cock is or how much they shit before a battle.
I agree. I'm very much in Sansa's corner but I would have loved if they could have finished the really fantastic conversation they had in Ep 2. When you're a victim of rape and brutality, that informs your decisions. Sansa isn't just fighting for Northern independence and safety, she's fighting for her own. Jon being on the IT means that nothing like what she went through with Joffrey and Ramsey will ever happen again. And that's because Jon will put her in a position of power in the North and WF, and, with that power, she's going to make sure she's never a victim again.
If they could truly discuss what both of them have been through, I think (hope) they could come to a common ground.
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Not sure anyone's brought up Arya's pov in the Stark caucus. However folks want to depict Sansa - that she's jealous and only out for herself and doesn't care about Jon - Arya feels none of those things. I think that can be agreed upon. She was appropriately grateful to Daenerys and allowed that they needed her army and dragons during the battle vs the NK's army. But, she'd observed the war council and saw Daenerys react in a hostile, irrational way, ignoring the absolutely reasonable advice that they rest the Northern army, Unsullied, Dothraki and the dragons before rushing into another war. She watched as Jon told her "what you command, we will obey". That's when it seemed to dawn on her that this isn't right. That it was in fact a dangerous approach to take with a Queen that seems irrationally driven by power.
Whatever people want to feel about Sansa's motives, Arya unambiguously wants the best for Team Stark, and, in her eyes, that's not gonna happen with Daenerys on the throne. She was also super calm and rational when she spoke to Jon about this.
I found all of that really interesting.
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Sigh...RIP Missandei and Rhaegal.
I don't know what more Cersei has to do to convince Tyrion that she is, in fact, a monster. The Cersei who "loved her kids" has been dead for quite some time. I sure hope the point has been driven home now.
That said, if the choice to rule is between the megalomaniac who rides a dragon and the one who doesn't, yeah, I'll pass on both. I think Daenerys lost me for good when she asked Jon to deny who he was so that she could rule unchallenged, when Jon continues to tell her that he doesn't even want the IT, nor did he want King in the North.
Sansa was completely reasonable about postponing things til the soldiers had time to recuperate and the wounded had time to get healthy. That's basic common sense which Daenerys chose to ignore b/c she HAS to take the IT NOWNOWNOW and also b/c it came from Sansa. And she wonders why she, and now Arya, don't trust her.
I love that Sansa told Tyrion about Jon. Sansa's loyalty is to the North first, just as Varys' is to the realm. Both have been really clear about that, and they each have come to the conclusion that Jon would be a better ruler than Daenerys or Cersei. And they're right. Mostly b/c he's not a megalomaniac.
As an aside, I really, really want Sansa/Tyrion. I have no idea if this is where the show is headed but I'd friggin love it.
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It wasn't exactly groundbreaking, but I don't think I've seen many teen films portray the beautiful teen queen as more than the vapid mean girl, or super social and carefree. When you're a pretty teen but you don't quite embrace it, and are befuddled as to why guys are suddenly hitting on you, and are quiet and reserved - that's a real thing that I'm not sure has been addressed in teen film. In Mandy's case, she was in the popular crowd but held disdain for it. They weren't really her friends. The girls saw her as an object to procure favor with the guys; the guys simply saw her as someone to be conquered.
SpoilerI think that's why she did it. She was disgusted by who they were. She saw them as the sickly cowherd; in her eyes, they were poison and tainted, and needed to be put down. When she saw that Emmet wasn't much different from the other guys, that, for him, it wasn't about putting down the sickly herd, it was so he could finally have her all to himself - to die with him, whatever - she was disgusted with him as well. So, she turned on him. Garth was the only one who saw her as an actual person, and not an object of desire, or someone to use or possess.
This film was really meant to be a social commentary - and perhaps it could have been more eloquently done, but I love it all the same.
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This might by my favorite slasher film of all time. Why? Because:
- I see so much of myself in Mandy Lane. I was a tomboy who ran track in pigtails. In between all of that, I had no idea that I'd somehow become attractive to the opposite sex. My best friend from junior high would tease me about the collection of books I'd gather from the library. I was a nerd and I was happy being a nerd. I never wanted any attention. I just wanted to do well in school because whenever I gave my parents a great report card, they were happy. They approved of me. When I started high school, I was close to a fellow bookworm from junior high for about a week or so, until I'd met who would soon become the popular kids (we sort of created that clique together) and left her behind.
- Amber Heard has never been more beautiful than she was in this role. I watch this film and actually marvel at how naturally stunning she is in this. I totally buy that the guys in school were completely infatuated with her. It wasn't simply because she was gorgeous; she was elusive and unattainable. She was mysterious. She'd apparently never hooked up with any of the high school boys and didn't seem to have the same hang ups the other pretty popular girls had, nor did she exude their desperation for male attention. All they knew about her was that her parents died and that she lived with her aunt, and that her best friend had convinced a popular kid to jump off a roof in her name. She was quiet and reserved; I'd venture to guess that she had the same personality as she did before she became the teen queen. Everything else was imposed upon her by those who pursued her.
- Oh high school. The scenes in which Chloe puts Marlin down for being "fat" and Marlin goes in on Chloe for not trimming her vaginal hair. It just brought back all of the stupid high school hateful bullshit. It was so reminiscent of aspects of my high school experience. I think back and I'm like, "Man, we were such bad friends to each other. We repeatedly tore each other down. And for what?"
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I like that Mandy got away with everything. I'd guessed it from the start, hugely b/c of THE TRAILER, that she was killing everyone. So, I went in thinking she was the mastermind somehow. But, I appreciate that they made Emmet the active killer, because it actually threw me off for a moment or two. Partly because of the "stalker/peeping tom" scene of Mandy undressing early on, and also because the killings went on while Mandy seemed to be la-di-da hanging with the popular kids at the house. I love that she drove off with Garth in the end, the only person in the entire film who saw her as an actual person. It was perfect.
There are many more thoughts I have on this film but I'd love to hear everyone else's.
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Watching Paris is Burning on re-watch and I actually really liked it. Throughout season 1 and all of the time prior to Paris/Rory becoming real friends, it was obvious to me that Paris saw Rory as someone with whom she actually had things in common, unlike the sex-starved twit Louise and the flighty Madeline. Rory was serious and driven and smart, and those were qualities Paris valued and admired. It took a loooong time for Paris to not see Rory as a constant threat to her Chilton supremacy and to get past her own half-crazed insecurity to give that friendship a chance. But, Paris is Burning is the first time we see a glimmer of that. We see her vulnerability. Rory, on her part, was a kind girl and an outsider at Chilton who simply wanted a friend at her new school. But I liked that she called Paris on her behavior and made her see how hurtful she'd been. It was a small step toward their eventual friendship and I loved it.
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Wow, I felt as if I was holding my breath for the entire episode. I've not been impressed by Elizabeth Lail until this ep but I thought she was terrific. I finally truly felt for Beck. I wanted her to get out of there alive. I felt incredibly sad for her when Paco didn't help her. Damn.
Joe went full on crazy this ep, it's like he'd unveiled whatever mask he'd had up all season and was just his sad, crazy, lonely, twisted, disturbed self. He was scary and chilling but because he's so broken as an individual, there was still a part of me that felt something for him. I feel weirdly guilty about having a strange sympathy for a man who is stalking murderer, but I'm gonna go ahead and attribute that to Penn's incredible portrayal of him. I didn't want to feel anything for Joe after the finale, because I really hate that he killed Beck, but yet, there's a part of me that does.
I've only watched a little bit of Dexter, but, as someone mentioned above, this is different. He killed horrible people who pretty much deserved their fate. This isn't easy. Beck could be annoying and self-absorbed, but she didn't deserve what she got. And I wanted her to live. Yet here I am. Penn should get an Emmy for this - I was blown away by how good he was on this show.
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This was a pretty fascinating episode. As soon as Beck emerged from her cloud of self-absorption for 5 seconds, she actually began to piece together that something was off with Joe. She began to stop looking at him as someone who exists solely to adore her and prop her up, but as a separate entity with a potentially shady past. The fact that she had cheated on him makes sense - Joe in his hyper-obsession with Beck has always been aware of who she is. She's the kind who cheats. She cheated with him on Karen, she cheated on him with Dr. Nicky. Of course he was right about it all. Her explanation, btw, was weak as fuck (the actress who plays Beck was equally unconvincing). She felt trapped/smothered by Joe and, and instead of actually discussing how she felt with him, she fucked someone else as a release and a way to escape. She is wildly immature and a liar, cheater, and hypocrite. She had no problem digging around in Joe's past while continuing to hide the fact that she'd had an affair with Dr. Nicky. Smdh.
I continue to love Joe and root for him. He is so damaged, so incredibly fucked up, and Penn is too awesome in this role. He was SO good in the Beck/Joe confrontation scenes.
I can't believe the next ep is the season finale. I figured Beck would end up in the cage but I have no idea how things will turn out after that. This show is terrific.
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Holy crap this show is off the hook. Beck's best friend is a manipulative stalker and her boyfriend is a stalking sociopath. I don't know what from what, except that I'm seriously engaged in this craziness. WAKE UP, BECK.
2 hours ago, LittleIggy said:That must have been the abridged version of the abridged version of The Count of Monte Cristo because that book is over 1000 pages long! Am I sick because I cheer for Joe? ? This show just has me hooked! The line “Beck has a stalker” cracked me up. ?
I'm between cheering for Joe, being aww'd by sweet Joe/Beck scenes, and rooting for Joe and Peach to be together, because they are damn near the same person (minus the killing, of course). The show has me sideways!
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S04.E08: Years, Continents, Bloodshed
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I thought their current relationship dynamic could have been really interesting to explore if the show still cared about Logan/Veronica as a pairing. Veronica fell for Logan when he was a self-destructive, philandering, volatile bad boy with anger management issues. He went to therapy for years (off-screen), and was now thoughtful, mature, self-aware, and rational. It seemed fairly obvious that Veronica - an adrenaline junkie - missed the excitement/unpredictability/rush of being with the oldLogan (despite all of his destructive behavior) and did not feel very connected to him now.
They were still together because they loved each other. But the connection had waned and Veronica was unsettled and restless. Which was why she was partying with Leo and having sex dreams about him. When she said she woke up relieved she hadn't done anything to hurt her relationship with Logan, that was true. Did this mean she was now ready to marry him? Eh. I think that would have been a bandaid for their issues, which I thought were actually realistic and interesting. Would have liked to have seen them addressed. But the show chose instead to marry them off and then blow Logan up because they just didn't care about the pairing or that character anymore.
Sad thing is, if not for the movie, the show could have rebooted again as a series with Veronica/Piz together and Logan still kind of a mess and he and Veronica finding their way back to each other. Working through their issues on screen. That's a story they may have been interested in writing. Again, all of the off-screen growth for Logan in the film and their reunion killed anything they could have had (in the writers eyes) for this series.