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1 hour ago, unknownuser said:

I have always wanted to see TS done as a diamond with 4 points and each one facing out to all sides of the arena. It would be complicated but they could use each of the group leaders as points and have their groups with them. Just a thought and most likely so far off base this will have TPTB laughing hysterically. 

I think that is a very cool idea!!!!!! For what my opinion is worth... 🙂

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24 minutes ago, SmpIsimon said:

Each half of TS will have a different triangle.

Interesting. I’m assuming the change will occur after they transition back into the triangle from the larger formation (where the new choreo is located in TS). 

Unless one of the 2 year vets is one of the points, I hate that it’s not Gina. She clearly outdances all of the vets that are senior to her and all of the other 3 years. It’s not even close IMO. 

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18 minutes ago, ClosetDCCFan said:

So will it be a diamond?  One point facing home stands, one point facing away stands? 

Lordy:  now we'll start debating who got the better point position.  LOL 

The ladies are in triangle formation twice during the song.  The first one involves the dramatic arms held akimbo done in ripple.  They scoot backwards into the second one. 

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2 minutes ago, Jess14 said:

Interesting. I’m assuming the change will occur after they transition back into the triangle from the larger formation (where the new choreo is located in TS). 

Unless one of the 2 year vets is one of the points, I hate that it’s not Gina. She clearly outdances all of the vets that are senior to her and all of the other 3 years. It’s not even close IMO. 

And that’s where the complexity comes in.  

The All Stars are going to have to fight muscle memory, especially if all dancers move to a different position in the second triangle.

I guess this change has been hiding in plain sight for a while.  The Queen performance involved double points and a point change mid-stream.

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1 hour ago, kacesq said:

Has the team been finalized yet?  They have to be close, right, if we're dealing with point?

I have to say, I have watched this show from the beginning and looked forward to it every. single. season.  This season?  Eh, not so much.  If Princess VK makes it then I hope they don't showcase her in every freaking episode.  I barely made it through the Cassie years.  (And it's not that Cassie was a "bad" cheerleader or VK was the worst training camp candidate ever, it's just that neither of them were that amazing to have deserved all  that they got as a DCC.)

I would argue she is actually the worst training camp candidate ever, mostly because i can’t find a redeeming quality from the past season at least. And no, “but she’s a pretty blonde” doesn’t count on my book considering that there are plenty pretty blondes out there who can dance and refrain from lying and milkshakes.

And btw, i’m well aware of how difficult it is for some people to maintain or lose weight. But a healthy 18 y.o dancer who is dancing everyday for at least 4 hours has to be eating way too much to gain that much weight. This was supposedly her life dream and she knew how important being lean is, yet she couldn’t bother working on that and chose to blame it on a medical condition. No sympathy there.

42 minutes ago, SmpIsimon said:

Each half of TS will have a different triangle.

Wait...different triangle? Not just different point? 

It sounds a bit too complicated but if done well, it might be a great change. I’m going to assume then that the two triangles are those we saw in Oxnard... in which case Heather isn’t even part of one of the triangles and i’m hella mad.

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35 minutes ago, Jess14 said:

Interesting. I’m assuming the change will occur after they transition back into the triangle from the larger formation (where the new choreo is located in TS). 

Unless one of the 2 year vets is one of the points, I hate that it’s not Gina. She clearly outdances all of the vets that are senior to her and all of the other 3 years. It’s not even close IMO. 

#GinaWasRobbed

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3 hours ago, DCCManFan said:

Good choice of Maddie with the longer hair, it forces the curls down and elongates her baby cute, almost Shirley Temple like face. 

Valder Beebe, the host and visionary of the interview...Huh? Host and visionary? Visionary of not knowing diddly-squat about what your are talking about?

What an incompetent and disinterested interviewer, what an amazing array of superfluous and obvious statements and questions.

Kudos to Kelli that she keeps on smiling while undergoing this type of stupidity.

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5 minutes ago, Pau84 said:

Good choice of Maddie with the longer hair, it forces the curls down and elongates her baby cute, almost Shirley Temple like face

Yes.  That pic of her in the swimsuit magazine with longer hair and more volume is my fave.

6 minutes ago, Pau84 said:

Valder Beebe, the host and visionary of the interview...Huh? Host and visionary? Visionary of not knowing diddly-squat about what your are talking about?

The problem with interviews anymore is that the hosts don't realize that they must do their homework first.

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Just now, scorpio1031 said:

Yes.  That pic of her in the swimsuit magazine with longer hair and more volume is my fave.

The problem with interviews anymore is that the hosts don't realize that they must do their homework first.

Maddie looks like Shirley Temple!

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Look! Here is Maddie doing Sexy Hips!

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26 minutes ago, Pau84 said:

Valder Beebe, the host and visionary of the interview...Huh?

I was actually going to post and ask who Valder Beebe was, but I don't know who many "in vogue" people are nowadays so I didn't.  Still don't know why she is so meaningful.

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8 hours ago, Bmathews said:

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First off, thank you for sharing this. Secondly, WOW! Did Judy get on the phone to Cassie and say "honey you gotta go defend our girl"? Clearly they didn't stop to think of how it would look to have the first example of nepotism coming to the defense of its latest incarnation. I mean given what we know about the whole "protect VK" edict, I'm suspicious of anyone from the organization going into overdrive to promote VK, but to have it be Cassie makes the whole thing stink more than the football players locker room right after a game! I mean really, "Victoria was judged even harder"?! Please!

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6 hours ago, Jessie S said:

She's such a doll! If they were still doing fan votes, she would of totally been picked. She really got noticed on social media and I've seen many speculations on why the heck wouldn't she be picked? I suspect that it might be her weight, which sucks. Shes so talented! 

She also looks exactly like Maddie, except actually black, not just pretending 😉 so she might have better luck after she retires. 

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54 minutes ago, Pau84 said:

Maddie looks like Shirley Temple!

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Look! Here is Maddie doing Sexy Hips!

😂 I looked the same as a child. I feel Maddie’s pain with super curly hair. Mine is like a spiral perm.  I hated it; the grass is always greener and all that shit.

That said, Maddie looks great! I like her hair longer. It looks soft as opposed to stiff curls. 

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38 minutes ago, WinkyFace said:

She also looks exactly like Maddie, except actually black, not just pretending 😉 so she might have better luck after she retires. 

It’s so sad but you’re likely right, they have a couple curly haired people so they have enough “diversity” in that category 🙄

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5 hours ago, Monique said:

For the love of my sanity and eyesight please don’t have Lexie be either of the points 🙏🏾 she is so plastic 🤦🏾‍♀️

I had not noticed until you mentioned it. 😂now I can’t get the image of a Barbie doll out of my head when I see her. 

Keyboard 😂

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8 hours ago, Jennv said:

Lacey and Alanna are obvious. With Heather i’m still not sure but if she got some work, damn I want her surgeon. But Jen? Maddie? Hannah? What did they do? I can’t see any difference honestly-not in Heather/Alanna’s way where bot look amazing and natural, I see no difference at all.

Heather had her nose refined. I googled pics of her, and found a sideline shot showing her in profile from her rookie year and compared it to a last season profile shot. I apologize I can’t post them here, but every time I try to post screenshots I get told the pic is too big, and I’m to tech ignorant to figure out how to make the pics smaller. Anyway, when looking at the two profiles next to each other it’s obvious she had “hook” shape smoothed out. It’s subtle, it is only obvious in profile shots. Looking at her straight on she looks almost exactly the same, and I notice they don’t post a lot of shots of her in profile. I had to google search for game day action shots to find some.

i say good for her, do whatever makes you happy, and with her working at a plastic surgery place I’m sure she got a good deal.

I actually saw a process recently on Instagram where someone had the hook in their nose fixed non-surgically so maybe she has has something like that. I think it’s temporary but the before and after were incredible.

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23 hours ago, ByTor said:

I'll play the favorites game:

Love: Brennan, Briana, Erin, Caroline, Gina, Alexis, Alanna

Like: Christina, Ashlee, Miranda, Bridget, Cianna, Amy, Daphne, Rachel W

Don't really notice: Amber, Jalyn, Taylor, Lexie, Maddie, Madeline, Molly, Heather

Not a fan: Hannah, Savannah, Tess, Rachel A

Retirees I miss: Lacey, Meredith, Megan C, Melissa W, Yuko

Fixed yours! Love that you don't like Hannah either...I bet we're the only ones.

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2 hours ago, NotthebadVictoria said:

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again it’s not Gina’s dancing....... Girl has a face for radio. 

I hope it’s not Maddie, she has a face for a Gerber’s baby food commercial and a her mid season tummy morphs into something that is honey boo boo adjacent. 

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14 minutes ago, DanceChick said:

Fixed yours! Love that you don't like Hannah either...I bet we're the only ones.

She is not my favorite either. Just not a standout for me.

Love: Maddie (from the season she was cut) Heather, Amy, Madeline (I think she is super pretty).

Like: Alexis, Rachel W, Alanna, Taylor, Jalyn, Erin.

All the rest, I tend to forget are there.

I hope I find one this year that I adore. 

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44 minutes ago, DanceChick said:

Fixed yours! Love that you don't like Hannah either...I bet we're the only ones.

I bet we are! 

And for the record, your editing skills leave much to be desired 😂 😘

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9 hours ago, CrazyMoon said:

I have a nephew who is afraid of everything and he's 30 years old yet remarkably immature. "The doctor left a message, did you call her back?" "NO". "Why not?" "I'm afraid they want to tell me something bad" Turns out she was just checking on him for CPAP machine stuff...Fear makes you not act your best interest or makes you deny your part in whatever the problem might be. Fear is very common in the immature. The more stuff you face, the less fear you have. VK got to act her's out on a national platform with millions of people watching. If she's matured at all and looked back on last season, she should be mortified and do whatever it takes to put all that in the rear view. We'll see.

That's a nice theory, but VK doesn't hit me as a self-reflective type. You can only improve yourself by taking a hard look within, admitting there is a problem and putting in a real effort to attempt change. If Mom and Dad (and Kelli and Kitty) have been fawning over her since she was born, I doubt she has any concept that she could be the problem in any given situation.

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My turn at this.

Favorite three- Maddie (superstar), Hannah, Bridget

Love- Savannah, Briana, Ciana, Brennan

Like- Erin, Heather, Alanna, Amy, Ashlee

Growing on me- Miranda

Neutral- Rachel.A, Alexis, Lexie, Caroline, Daphne, Jalyn, Taylor, Molly, Amber

Not a fan- Gina, Madeline, Rachel.W(very robotic to me)

Favorite alumni- Whitney Isleib, Trisha Trevino, Jackie Bob,  Nicole Bulcher, Danielle Barhold, Lacey, Jacie Scott, Jinelle

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4 minutes ago, Leia1021 said:

That's a nice theory, but VK doesn't hit me as a self-reflective type. You can only improve yourself by taking a hard look within, admitting there is a problem and putting in a real effort to attempt change. If Mom and Dad (and Kelli and Kitty) have been fawning over her since she was born, I doubt she has any concept that she could be the problem in any given situation.

She may just mature out of some of this behavior. And having it shoved in your face on reruns can cause unintended self reflection. We'll see as the season progresses.

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Favorite - Jalyn

Love - Maddie, Briana, Brennan, Erin

Like- Hannah, Amy, Ashlee, Gina, Madeline, Caroline

Growing on me- Alanna, Heather

Neutral- Bridget, Savannah, Ciana,  Alexis, Lexie, Taylor, Amber

Not a fan- Rachel.W, Daphne, Molly, Rachel.A, Miranda, Christina

Favorite alumna- Jinelle

Admired Alumnae- Kelli Finglass, Jackie Bob, Natalie Woods, Toni Washington

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4 hours ago, NotthebadVictoria said:

It’s so sad but you’re likely right, they have a couple curly haired people so they have enough “diversity” in that category 🙄

Maddie does not look like Shirley Temple, Shirley is much more cute. Maddie not so much.

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I know everyone's doing this and I don't have a lot of hot takes here, but here are my personal choices!

Love - Bridget (all kinds of adorable), Brennan (likeable, mature, underdog), Ashlee (gorgeous and driven), Caroline (absolute rockstar), Cianna (love her look).

Like - Maddie, Rachel A., Alanna, Hannah, Jalyn.

Neutral - Amy, Tess, Rachel W., Molly, Gina, Miranda, Savannah, Taylor, Heather, Briana, Erin, Amber.

Dislike - Alexis, Lexie, Christina, Madeline M. (mean girl vibes from all 4), Daphne (looks older/way way too skinny and should have gotten the boot from SG this year instead of Jalyn).

Loved alumni - Kashara, Melissa W., Ann Lux, Jacie, Kandi.

Should have been a DCC - my kooky girl Vivian.

Who I really hope makes the team - Kat (a stunner, total package) and Meredith (I'd hang out with her in real life; she seems chill).

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8 hours ago, Lunacat said:

I hope it’s not Maddie, she has a face for a Gerber’s baby food commercial and a her mid season tummy morphs into something that is honey boo boo adjacent. 

You are right about that! 😂

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17 minutes ago, Lolfordays said:

Clearly TPTB have zero issue with mid season tummy at point — please see both Kashara and Jenn.

Wait Jenn had tummy chub? How did I never notice that given she thinks she's perfect or thats how she comes across to me...

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Every week there should be a dance off for point. Sort of like what you would see in music. Folks challenge each other to move up chairs (orchestra and band) Could have a panel of judges. Just being crazy but want to see a shake up. 

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Split Point:

  • Removes importance of one main point girl / makes point less important
  • Lets a couple of girls share the spotlight
  • Gives more girls opportunities to be upfront in pictures
  • Compromised option when there is not one strong point girl to lead the team and look gorgeous in pictures.
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47 minutes ago, TB12 said:

Wait Jenn had tummy chub? How did I never notice that given she thinks she's perfect or thats how she comes across to me...

Jenn came across to the unsuspected viewer as someone who wanted everybody else to think she was perfect.

This is ofcourse, in stark contrast of other DCC’s who actually were perfect, like Melissa Wallace, Jaci Scott, Amy Trader, Megan Carcioppolo and ofcourse the GOAT Nicole Hamilton.

Personally I thought that Danielle Barhold and Nicole Bulcher were perfect, but this is my opinion, just like the opinion of Jenn, that she thinks that she is perfect.

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10 minutes ago, Stee said:

Split Point:

  • Removes importance of one main point girl / makes point less important
  • Lets a couple of girls share the spotlight
  • Gives more girls opportunities to be upfront in pictures
  • Compromised option when there is not one strong point girl to lead the team and look gorgeous in pictures.

Good list.  Also, it gives them some flexibility with some dated choreography.  With so many strong 2nd year vets, this will jazz things up in the future.

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After I watched the Valder Beebee interview (she called them cowgirls!!!) I felt like Maddie had point because Valder asked her about her role & she had a big smile saying it was expanded for this year.

Also I suggested live tweeting for the episode because if it is on Twitter it is a more neutral area where spoilers are allowed.  How you you do a live chat here with no spoilers?  “Wow did you see that? How about ______ falling? What excuse could she give about what she said?”

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Here’s an unpopular opinion.  If VK has a hard time keeping her weight under control, K&J may relax the weight requirements so that she does not look out of place.  Of course, they will say that they want their cheerleaders to be a beacon of light to other squads to promote a healthier body image.  They will tie in My Fit Foods, the new gym, etc. 

I’m just kidding (kind of).  

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