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S06.E06: Week 3, Part 2


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21 hours ago, kita said:

On that note, I would like to welcome everyone to this season's BiP drinking game, in which you take a drink:

• Whenever someone says "clarity,"

• Whenever someone uses "like" or "you know" as a filler,

• Whenever someone uses "literally" in an incorrect context. (You are not LITERALLY being crushed unless your body is being compressed, BiP ding dongs.)

I would suggest adding whenever someone misuses a pronoun, but I don’t want anyone to die. 

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So Demi gets to bring her girlfriend to Paradise for a big dramatic reunion, she gets her own little confessional thing, and they are just going to...hang out? If their whole deal is being a couple now then they cant really play the dating game, so whats the point of them just staying, why dont they leave? Other than this franchise has a massive hard on for Demi and thinks that she is the best thing since the Instagram Like button and desperately want her around and the center of everything. They even added her to Hannah's season for no reason at all! I guess its nice that they are giving some actual LGBTQ visibility here, but its just so weird how its playing out. It would be cool if they actually did a full on gender fluid season with queer contestants competing for each other, but I think this is as good as we are going to get for awhile now.

I dont think Derek is acting, I dont think he is that good of an actor to be honest. I think  he liked Demi (for whatever reason) and now pretty hurt, but thats complicated by the circumstances. He is really stuck between a rock and a hard place, having to make sure he is sufficiently heartbroken, but also never coming off as homophobic and making sure he is still being supportive of this romance the show is now throwing itself into. And now he just has to sit there and watch Demi and her girlfriend just...have a vacation I guess? The one part that seemed like he was playing for the camera was probably when he was like "I always get my heartbroken, I am always the good guy, but I want love", that just screamed Bachelor audition tape to me. 

So Kristian is 27? I would have thought that Demi would consider that to be about Cougar age 😉 

I did giggle a lot at people being like "she isn't from bachelor Nation!" when Kristian showed up on the beach. I know what they meant, but it was like they just cant imagine coming across a person who has never appeared on this freaking franchise! I mean,   the amount of time they spend hooking up with each other off camera, maybe they really cant imagine it!

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My friend and I were practically crying laughing during the scenes after Demi brought her girlfriend to the beach. It played out like a Burning Love parody or scenes from a docu-comedy.

Demi: This is my girlfriend, Kristian, who none of you know and who I was dating pre-show, before I showed up and strung your boy Derek along for days on end!

*Everyone cheers, cuts to talking heads about how brave and amazing Demi and said girlfriend (who suddenly seem to be an established relationship) are. The biggest initial concern seems to be that Kristian has not earned her place in Bachelor Nation, but once they realize the edit that the producers want, this is quickly forgiven*

*Pan to Derek looking pained while his friends wildly clap around him for his up-til-now main love interest and the relationship she had before coming on the show*

Then later on... Hannah runs up with a date card. What a shock, it's for Demi and Kristian! Everyone fawns all over them and beams as they leave to a romantic date. Pan along the adoring crowd to stop on Derek, who never had a date of his own, trying to feign a smile as everyone fanatically supports the woman who has been leading him on on national television.

Did nobody else find this comedy gold?! Also, Chris Harrison was practically gleeful as he was skipping down the stairs to grab Demi and ruin Derek's life. I'm just enjoying all this for what it is, guys. 

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3 minutes ago, jade.black said:

My friend and I were practically crying laughing during the scenes after Demi brought her girlfriend to the beach. It played out like a Burning Love parody or scenes from a docu-comedy.

Demi: This is my girlfriend, Kristian, who none of you know and who I was dating pre-show, before I showed up and strung your boy Derek along for days on end!

*Everyone cheers, cuts to talking heads about how brave and amazing Demi and said girlfriend (who suddenly seem to be an established relationship) are. The biggest initial concern seems to be that Kristian has not earned her place in Bachelor Nation, but once they realize the edit that the producers want, this is quickly forgiven*

*Pan to Derek looking pained while his friends wildly clap around him for his up-til-now main love interest and the relationship she had before coming on the show*

Then later on... Hannah runs up with a date card. What a shock, it's for Demi and Kristian! Everyone fawns all over them and beams as they leave to a romantic date. Pan along the adoring crowd to stop on Derek, who never had a date of his own, trying to feign a smile as everyone fanatically supports the woman who has been leading him on on national television.

Did nobody else find this comedy gold?! Also, Chris Harrison was practically gleeful as he was skipping down the stairs to grab Demi and ruin Derek's life. I'm just enjoying all this for what it is, guys. 

You forgot one part. The many minutes of televised, "TWO HOT BLONDE GIRLS MAKING OUT!"   Let's all applaud for how absolutely wonderfully progressive,  inclusive and, most of all BRAVE the network is for showing this !🙄

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12 hours ago, Fable said:

I’m highly skeptical of the Demi and Kristian shenanigans.  For starters, I highly doubt they are even a real couple.  Their interactions together seem too fake and unnatural.  Is there any evidence of them being a couple before or after filming, i.e. texts, social media, photos? 

Haha I was wondering this too, the way they talked to each other it was almost like a bad improv scene where the two improvisers are both trying to nudge the other one into catching on, like

"REMEMBER... that one time we had a DATE.... when I said I needed CLARITY....?"

"Oh yes of course and then if YOU remember, then I said that I was FALLING for you and then I said... that.... we both need to be on the SAME PAGE....?"

"Uh huh that DID happen! ....um.... and THEN you were like, go! Find out what you NEED....?"

It wouldn't have surprised me at all to find out that the entire thing was a setup from the beginning, with a phony "girlfriend back home" and all. Because it CLEARLY was set up from the moment filming started, at the very least. I'm willing to suspend my disbelief at most of the Bachelor/Bachelorette shenanigans and trust that it's not scripted as much as people imagine, but BIP is a whole different beast when it comes to this kind of stuff.

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Also, Derek as the Bachelor? Yikes. He may be a decent guy, and it sucks that he got this weird situation in BIP, but the man has no personality on the screen. He might be Ben Higgins-level niceness but unfortunately he has had zero charisma on the Bachelorette, or on either BIP appearance.

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Demi opens up

This story is all over the internet.    Read it more closely, and you can notice something: 

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"At first I was scared, I was a little bit uncomfortable. I was like, 'I don't know how much I want to kiss her on camera,'" Burnett said of being nervous about her groundbreaking storyline. "(Then) when she got (to Paradise) I was like, 'I don't care, I'm all over her.' " 

So, BEFORE  she (the gf)   got to paradise, Demi wasn't sure she wanted to kiss her on camera.   But I thought she didn't know she was coming!    Chris H sold it as a "surprise!  I brought your girlfriend here!" (Make out with her on camera, as per your contract!)  

Yep, it was all set up from the start.   And I bet Derek played along.  

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13 minutes ago, tinkerbell said:

Demi opens up

This story is all over the internet.    Read it more closely, and you can notice something: 

So, BEFORE  she (the gf)   got to paradise, Demi wasn't sure she wanted to kiss her on camera.   But I thought she didn't know she was coming!    Chris H sold it as a "surprise!  I brought your girlfriend here!" (Make out with her on camera, as per your contract!)  

Yep, it was all set up from the start.   And I bet Derek played along.  

Derek is now one of the front-runners to be the Bachelor.  According to a story in Us Magazine online, Bachelor Nation is pushing him.  Hasn't been a single story that I've seen about Peter since the show ended once the 4 x in a windmill talk died down and most of those were from Hannah's perspective.  As for Mike, he may be on BiP, but didn't arrive the first night and still hasn't really gotten a story line.

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18 minutes ago, DEL901 said:

Derek is now one of the front-runners to be the Bachelor.  According to a story in Us Magazine online, Bachelor Nation is pushing him.  Hasn't been a single story that I've seen about Peter since the show ended once the 4 x in a windmill talk died down and most of those were from Hannah's perspective.  As for Mike, he may be on BiP, but didn't arrive the first night and still hasn't really gotten a story line.

Mike is practically non existent on BIP. If they were really interested in him, I think they would be highlighting him more.

34 minutes ago, tinkerbell said:

I didn't believe her "acting" on BIP, I am not going to believe her interviews after!

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31 minutes ago, nutty1 said:

Mike is practically non existent on BIP. If they were really interested in him, I think they would be highlighting him more.

My point exactly.  I'm guessing he didn't give them anything good to work with so they've made him invisible.  Bye bye chance at being the Bachelor.

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44 minutes ago, nutty1 said:

Mike is practically non existent on BIP. If they were really interested in him, I think they would be highlighting him more.

Mike has become kind of a doofy nothing burger on BiP. I guess not having someone to compete over and focus on has really dulled his suave romantic edge. After all that last first date talk, he seemed like he could care less when Caelynn chose to pursue Dean and even less about the girl he halfheartedly decided to pursue after her.

I know that the producers are probably sweating bullets trying to make the next bachelor happen since Tyler is dating Gigi Hadid now, but tricking Derek/signing Derek up to gain audience sympathy via being bamboozled by your current fling's simultaneous lady relationship and then cuckolding him in the name of being a good ally...feels like a long, indirect walk to be the next bachelor.  

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1 hour ago, nutty1 said:

I didn't believe her "acting" on BIP, I am not going to believe her interviews after!

I don't believe her either.   BUT - My point in posting the interview was that she "gave away"  the plot.(without meaning to)    She wasn't surprised that they brought her girlfriend on - she pretty much admits it was the plan all along.  She's just too stupid to remember what the story line was supposed to be, and screwed up in the interview.

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4 minutes ago, tinkerbell said:

I don't believe her either.   BUT - My point in posting the interview was that she "gave away"  the plot.(without meaning to)    She wasn't surprised that they brought her girlfriend on - she pretty much admits it was the plan all along.  She's just too stupid to remember what the story line was supposed to be, and screwed up in the interview.

Oh yea, I knew what you were saying. I was just commenting about how I feel. Really, everyone knows this was so contrived. 

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IT's contrived, AND Chris Harrison was just beside himself, about being able to do this.   He was so happy and giddy with Demi, now he's congratulating himself on Twitter.   

I am all about people loving who they want.   But this was not an example of LGBTQ inclusiveness.  This was about showing hot girls making out, and claiming it was some sort of progress.  

(and after the show, Chris H went and watched lesbian porn) 

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I don’t really care who the next Bachelor is. The entertainment comes from following the women around. To that end, I hope they pick whoever is oldest (Derek is 32?). I think Colton was too young because then they basically just cast 22-year-olds who are nowhere near ready to settle down. Then we get a Bachelorette like Hannah and the cycle continues. Not saying they can’t cast 20–somethings, but it shouldn’t be a bunch of 22-year-olds, one 28-year-old, and a girl like Demi insulting her for being an old hag.

They need to stabilize the show with normal-ish women like Renee and Astrid. Remember Chris Soules season where both Ashley I and Becca were virgins? Ashley was (and is) such an overly dramatic s*** about her virginity, whereas Becca was like, “Yeah, I’m a virgin” and that was pretty much the end of it. 

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39 minutes ago, Stan39 said:

They need to stabilize the show with normal-ish women like Renee and Astrid. Remember Chris Soules season where both Ashley I and Becca were virgins? Ashley was (and is) such an overly dramatic s*** about her virginity, whereas Becca was like, “Yeah, I’m a virgin” and that was pretty much the end of it. 

Wow, what a RIGHT REASONS viewer request. Trainwrecks make this franchise go round! 😆 But I agree that it is nice to have some Astrids and Vanessas (Nick's final pick, I recall her being very well put together) to balance out the drama and give us a little feel-good from time to time when they find "normal" relationships - or as normal as they can get on these shows.

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10 hours ago, RealReality said:

I meant I only watch BiP I don't watch bachelor or bachelorette.  Too high faluntin and classy for me.....everyone with all their fancy ballgowns and snazzy suits.  Like the champagne of beers.  

Gotcha. I do watch the show and I don’t remember Derek. But as far as BIP goes, his acting is terrible, and it doesn’t seem like he’ll make a good Bachelor. It will be a boring season. I may be done since I’m addicted to Love Island Uk anyway. 

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10 minutes ago, kita said:

Wow, what a RIGHT REASONS viewer request. Trainwrecks make this franchise go round! 😆 But I agree that it is nice to have some Astrids and Vanessas (Nick's final pick, I recall her being very well put together) to balance out the drama and give us a little feel-good from time to time when they find "normal" relationships - or as normal as they can get on these shows.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for trainwrecks, I just think Colton’s season was pretty homogeneous as far as personalities go (though admittedly I stopped watching). Let’s not forget how entertaining Clare turned out to be, and she was older. It’s just nice when there is some variety of personalities and life experiences. Not everyone who goes on these shows needs to go to Stagecoach next year. 

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1 hour ago, Stan39 said:

I don’t really care who the next Bachelor is. The entertainment comes from following the women around. To that end, I hope they pick whoever is oldest (Derek is 32?). I think Colton was too young because then they basically just cast 22-year-olds who are nowhere near ready to settle down. Then we get a Bachelorette like Hannah and the cycle continues. Not saying they can’t cast 20–somethings, but it shouldn’t be a bunch of 22-year-olds, one 28-year-old, and a girl like Demi insulting her for being an old hag.

They need to stabilize the show with normal-ish women like Renee and Astrid. Remember Chris Soules season where both Ashley I and Becca were virgins? Ashley was (and is) such an overly dramatic s*** about her virginity, whereas Becca was like, “Yeah, I’m a virgin” and that was pretty much the end of it. 

This is a good point but it won’t matter if the bachelor is 32. They’ll still cast 20-year-olds. 

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4 hours ago, SnarkEnthusiast said:

Yep, and according to today's news he's already met her family. Bachelor Nation moves fast! Imagine submitting a reality show audition tape and six months later, you're dating a world famous super model. Hot privilege is real! Quite the step up from Hannah B's sloppy thirds.

Good for him! Some people are still upset he’s not pursuing Hannah!! 😮

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I think Kristina is pathetic for wanting to be "friends" with Blake after supposedly being hurt by his behavior, but I was 100% on her side in the Caitlyn (who?) conversation. Caitlyn deserved to be shut down in no uncertain terms after first badmouthing Kristina and subsequently trying to play the "women should support women" card.

Another point in Kristina's favor was the Key & Peele reference when she called Blake "Bahlahkeh": 

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7 hours ago, chocolatine said:

Another point in Kristina's favor was the Key & Peele reference when she called Blake "Bahlahkeh"

Mr. Lily and I about died when she said that. We had to give her applause for that one.

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6 hours ago, JenLily said:

Mr. Lily and I about died when she said that. We had to give her applause for that one.

Hate to burst your bubble, but Balockaye is Blake's Instagram account name, so it's more likely she was referring to that. Unfortunately you'd have to give him the credit. He's still a tool, but Kristina isn't pulling that one out of pop culture thin air.

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4 hours ago, NoWhammies said:

Every time I see Demi, all I can think of is Barbie's kid sister, Skipper. She looks like a Skipper doll. All she needs is a red and white striped one-piece bathing suit.

Funny. That's who I think of every time I see Hannah G. haha

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5 hours ago, NoWhammies said:

Every time I see Demi, all I can think of is Barbie's kid sister, Skipper. She looks like a Skipper doll. All she needs is a red and white striped one-piece bathing suit.

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TOTALLY!! 🤣🤣

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That dating card was a waste! Give it to a couple that are still putting out feelers not one that is already coupled. Oh right, girl on girl make out scene. They don’t have chemistry just a tenderness and the kissing looked very staged. 

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6 hours ago, Dena0033 said:

Hate to burst your bubble, but Balockaye is Blake's Instagram account name, so it's more likely she was referring to that. Unfortunately you'd have to give him the credit. He's still a tool, but Kristina isn't pulling that one out of pop culture thin air.

Even an unintentional Key & Peele reference is better than the tedium that is Demi and Kristian.

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On 8/22/2019 at 8:43 AM, JudyObscure said:

Oh there were no high falutin ballgowns with Hannah -- well maybe that one green one.  Her gowns were mostly thin, slinky numbers with half the front cut out so she could show an entire big healthy leg right up to the high water line and they all squashed her bust into one blobular mass.  She walked in them  hunched forward like an angry line backer and often actually was angry.

The men all wore their much younger brother's snazzy suits and  the most exciting part of the show was when Hannah would mount the guys (every kiss led to a straddle) and we'd wait for seams to rip. Sadly it never happened or else they edited it out.

ok that description is so funny! just like the way she clomped down the stairs in paradise. I cant beleive she was a pageant person.

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20 hours ago, NoWhammies said:

Every time I see Demi, all I can think of is Barbie's kid sister, Skipper. She looks like a Skipper doll. All she needs is a red and white striped one-piece bathing suit.

Was Skipper the doll that featured insta-grow boobs by cranking her right arm around a few times? Or was that a special edition? Or am I totally inventing a memory from those 70s? 

I fully expected the Demi/Kristian scenes to fade to a fuzzy cam and include Wells pouring water over them to get them wet. Show should have checked out the SNL Vanessa Bayer/Kristen Stewart hawt girl on girl action to really get it "right." Barring that, they could have at least played Pittburgh Slim's "I Like When Girls Kiss Girls" as background. You know, real cutting edge bravery...

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12 minutes ago, potatoradio said:

Barring that, they could have at least played Pittburgh Slim's "I Like When Girls Kiss Girls" as background. You know, real cutting edge bravery...

Knowing this antiquated show they would have picked "I kissed a girl" by Katy Perry. lol 

You are corrected about Skipper. I just looked it up Growing Up Skipper had breasts that grew when you rotated her arm. OMG I can't believe that actually got made!

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6 hours ago, potatoradio said:

Was Skipper the doll that featured insta-grow boobs by cranking her right arm around a few times? Or was that a special edition? Or am I totally inventing a memory from those 70s? 

Growing Up Skipper Doll

Growing Up Skipper Doll is one of the most well known of all the vintage Skipper dolls. Marketed as "2 dolls in 1 for twice as much fun", Growing up Skipper and her friend Ginger would grow taller and develop small breasts when their left arms were rotated forward, transforming them from a "young girl to a teenager". In addition to Skipper and Ginger's original ensembles - which included outfits for both the girl and the teen versions, between 1975 and 1976 there were an addition 6 ensembles that also included outfits for both sizes of the dolls.

http://www.fashion-doll-guide.com/Growing-Up-Skipper-Doll.html

I had that doll!  Not being much into Barbies, after making her grow and shrink a few times, it disappeared.  I wish I had it today, it's probably worth some money, or at least it has some snark value.

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On 8/21/2019 at 9:43 AM, Dittohead said:

I couldn't agree more. 

I don't understand why tptb wanted Demi on this season of BIP so badly.  I couldn't stand her on Colton's season and she's even more irritating to me now.  Why flip this show over just to please her?  

I was hoping to see Jordan find a new love after what happened with Jenna, but instead they screwed it up and sent him home.  And I had been looking forward to more of Hannah G but she turned into a huge disappointment for me, too.  I think I've had enough of this franchise.

Demi is actually #3 on the list of people who had someone back home.  Jenna was actually 1, and Jed was 2.  These three happened in a very short space of time, unlike the Mesnick and Arie situations, which had a gap between them so we didn't feel as though this is what we had to look forward to from now on.  Apparently, TPTB are oblivious to the fact that to some of Bachelor Nation, a cr@p sandwich with swiss on rye is pretty much tasting like a cr@p sandwich with provolone on whole wheat.  There was a time when Rome was an Empire.  Lest history repeat itself in the case of this franchise, it would do well for TPTB to have a bit less hubris, and a revamped screening process.

This whole thing about stagecoach is nothing but cr@p on Cr@p with a side of cr@p.  Caelynn's behavior is cr@p on the rocks with a cr@p chaser.

I remember the days when Chris Harrison would barely show up except for the Rose Ceremonies.  We'd post about how much we missed him!  Now he's trying to sell something unfair, which is not a good look.  DEMI GO ELSEWHERE.  IF YOU DON'T LIKE TURKS, THEN GO TO CAICOS.  Or visa versa.

I really wanted to see Jordan find love, or if there was no match, I really wanted him to be the Bachelor.  He'd be terrific.  But they'll probably pick Jed.  Let's see Chris Harrison sell *that* one

Too bad they didn't invite Jed and his ex to BIP.  I would have paid to see Jordan throw that guitar into the Pacific!

Rant over.

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On 8/20/2019 at 9:59 PM, phlebas said:

Kristian looks a little like Hannah if Hannah were 5 years older, 8 inches taller, and had ever eaten a carb.

I wonder if tptb would have let Kristian stay if she weren't pretty.

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On 8/21/2019 at 1:43 PM, RealReality said:

Deans mousetache is the only thing I can look at when he is on screen.  I have no idea if he is ugly or handsome.  It looks awful and I can't.understand why anyone is crazy for him. 

Dean's hair and moustache and his living in a van... forgive me, but I think he is a year away from a turban and Sikh name (like his dad).

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4 hours ago, Just Carol said:

I wonder if tptb would have let Kristian stay if she weren't pretty.

Now I have this whole bts fantasy where Demi comes to them with this idea of "coming out" on BiP. They ask to see her GF who is a non-hotty, maybe a nerd or frumpy, someone who won't run around half dressed on a beach getting wasted, not their "type". They're like, um, no, we're not allowed to let non alumni enter the show. Demi is all, well she's not the only girl I'm interested in. Pulls up a typicical insta selfie of a pretty blonde in a bikini making ducklips at the camera. Production all put their heads together (while stroking their little heads). I think we can make an exception. This sounds like a story worth putting out. It can be an inspiration. It will bring in ratings! Demi, being media savvy enough to know WHAT will bring in ratings, starts making out with the pretty blonde as much as possible. And the Bachelor Nation crumbles to it's knees under the weight of it's own misogynistic self importance. (just kidding, nothing can kill this beast). 

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4 hours ago, Just Carol said:

Dean's hair and moustache and his living in a van... forgive me, but I think he is a year away from a turban and Sikh name (like his dad).

I forgot about 'dad'.  I hope Dean is better than that.  As I remember it was a real shit show.

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Sorry I am late with these random thoughts:

Dylan with Hannah gives me the creeps.  First, because he pings.  Second, the way he nuzzles her neck and lays his head on her chest all the time makes me think he has Mommy issues.

Also, it was weird when Katie remarked to Chris that JPJ likes "the chocolate ladies."  

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On 8/22/2019 at 10:37 PM, nutty1 said:

Good for him! Some people are still upset he’s not pursuing Hannah!! 😮

He owes Hannah absolutely nothing.  She made her choice despite both families warning her, and did whatever she damn well pleased.  She wasn't a strong woman - she was a willful child, who now must face the consequences of her actions.  Tyler shouldn't have to hide and sneak around while he dates Gigi.  He's just living his life, and he's entitled to that.  (I just heard a bit of Ali and Rachel's podcast where the opinion was expressed that Tyler wasn't handling public exposure discretely.)

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1 hour ago, Fake Britt said:

(I just heard a bit of Ali and Rachel's podcast where the opinion was expressed that Tyler wasn't handling public exposure discretely.)

What does that even mean? I think he's handling public exposure just fine. He's a hot single guy who pretty much every girl wants, and one of them just happened to be a gazillionaire supermodel. He isn't cheating on anyone, he isn't promising exclusivity then sneaking around. He is enjoying life and enjoying the fame being on the show has brought him. Good for him. Is he supposed to sneak around and pretend he didn't bag a supermodel? Then people would be on him for being sneaky and think he was hiding other things. 

IDK why anyone would want to be famous. You can't win. Someone is going to publicly call you out no matter what you do. 

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2 hours ago, Fake Britt said:

He owes Hannah absolutely nothing.  She made her choice despite both families warning her, and did whatever she damn well pleased.  She wasn't a strong woman - she was a willful child, who now must face the consequences of her actions.  Tyler shouldn't have to hide and sneak around while he dates Gigi.  He's just living his life, and he's entitled to that.  (I just heard a bit of Ali and Rachel's podcast where the opinion was expressed that Tyler wasn't handling public exposure discretely.)

1 hour ago, Mabinogia said:

What does that even mean? I think he's handling public exposure just fine. He's a hot single guy who pretty much every girl wants, and one of them just happened to be a gazillionaire supermodel. He isn't cheating on anyone, he isn't promising exclusivity then sneaking around. He is enjoying life and enjoying the fame being on the show has brought him. Good for him. Is he supposed to sneak around and pretend he didn't bag a supermodel? Then people would be on him for being sneaky and think he was hiding other things. 

IDK why anyone would want to be famous. You can't win. Someone is going to publicly call you out no matter what you do. 

They are also acting like the breakup just happened.    She dumped him for Jed  months ago.   More than enough time to have moved on.    He just agreed to coffee with her to help her save face, IMO.    

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14 hours ago, Fake Britt said:

(I just heard a bit of Ali and Rachel's podcast where the opinion was expressed that Tyler wasn't handling public exposure discretely.)

Tyler's doing fine. My example of indiscrete public exposure would be saying, "I spent the night with (name of woman) and we had sex --four times."

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11 hours ago, DEL901 said:

They are also acting like the breakup just happened.    She dumped him for Jed  months ago.   More than enough time to have moved on.    He just agreed to coffee with her to help her save face, IMO.    

YES!

8 minutes ago, JudyObscure said:

Tyler's doing fine. My example of indiscrete public exposure would be saying, "I spent the night with (name of woman) and we had sex --four times."

And DOUBLE YES!!

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