Affogato March 27, 2017 Share March 27, 2017 On 3/20/2017 at 2:50 PM, marshmallows said: Okay I see where you are coming from about the more pain later. I can definitely understand that POV. I just have a different one. For me, the deal breaker still should have been Dick because she obviously isn't over the GHB thing since she makes a huge deal about how Madison gave her the drugged drink and wrote slut on her car. She was obviously fine with him hooking up with some random girl- He tells her and then asks if she still loves him and she replies "Yes" in a sweet tone then they kiss. Then all is good until she finds out he slept with Madison and she instantly brings up the GHB. So for me, it is most definitely what her trust issues with him bulls down to. So him sleeping with Madison brought all those feelings to the surface. I understand her feelings, but really if I were her- his and Dick's relationship would have been done or we would have been. I probably could have forgiven him with time for the Madison thing since she really had no idea what was up with the drink and just thought Veronica was all over her boyfriend because she was drunk. I'm obviously a LoVe shipper, so I'm just going to leave that as you and I see them differently. I think Veronica was unfair to him a lot of the time. But, I also think Logan did a lot of idiotic things. I don't think their relationship issues were one-sided. I think it was a combination of her unwillingness to open up and let anyone in, in fear of being hurt, and his self-destructive behavior. I also think they both had a hard time letting each other go. The only way that worked is when she moved away to Stanford, because as long as they are in close proximity to one another they are like a month to a flame- no matter how dangerous and explosive they just can't get enough. And once they both grew up they were better matches for each other than they ever could have been as kids. He needed to gain a sense of self and she needed to learn to be okay with being vulnerable. I think she is still working on it on her end, but I think Logan knows who he is now and is a pretty stable companion for Veronica. Okay, what is amazing is that because of the power of transformative fandom we would sit next to the couch and watch Veronica Mars and see a totally different television show. My thing is that it isn't a romance, it is basically a hero's quest. Think Buffy the vampire slayer, except that Buffy, before she was hit with the geas stick, was essentially Lilly and one of the themes of Buffy is that women being women is a strength, she gathers the scoobies and they keep her alive. Veronica, also a quest, but her personality is made of up things that are usually associated with men. Which really pisses people off, Nancy Drew was fairly masculine and gets castrated a little more every time she's revived. You seem to be watching well, Veronica, I mean Elena, nice girl, smart and girlish, horrible things happen with her family. She takes responsibility past her years and then meets these two brothers. Both Vampires, but one is trying not to be a vampire, Duncan, I mean Stephan, and ...well, the actress flees as soon as her contract is over, t but we know she will pick Damon, or ...well, Logan, the exciting one...well, I hope you see the comparison. I watched it, for at least the first five years, a little less regularly for the rest, but a romance, a different story. Not as good a story, I think. Frankly, what did they ever have in common? In mkat, what do they do? Veronica may end up having to join his group of Navy peopoe, for him, but is this anything she wants? Is he even going to try to be part of her life? If you cared about the characters maybe think that they could be still so much better off with someone else. Link to comment
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