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1 minute ago, Pearson80 said:

Megan got nasty as usual. She is never feisty, but a rude entitled bitch. I am suspicious like Joy and Ana on why they love her so much.  

Excuse me for posting how I felt. , I found her feisty. I honestly don't love any of them, especially Ana and Joy. . if they left I'd be fine

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6 hours ago, Alexis2291 said:

Except that Meghan is the only one on the panel who, to my knowledge, constantly claims to be a political pundit yet she fumbles on many of her talking points while also making false statements. Ana is a political pundit too, but I haven’t heard her say anything like “Democrats are the party of Infanticide,” as Meghan has said. She also casually throws around the word socialist. If you (as in her) want to be taken seriously as a political pundit, at least know your facts. 

Meghan's the primary one to own the label of political pundit, but really, they all are at this point. The problem is, they're all pretty bad at it, and no, I wouldn't say Meghan's worse than any of the rest of them.

Also, you haven't heard Ana say those things because she wants to keep working, for one, and because she's not usually in the position to have to make the pro-life/pro-capitalist argument. And I don't think it's fair to criticize Meghan for her more pugilistic comments about Democrats as if any of her co-hosts only criticize Republicans with exacting grace.

On 7/30/2019 at 4:41 PM, After7Only said:

Not really.  See any male talk show interview of Sofia Vagara or Halle Berry, or Scarlett Johannson. 

I've seen male talk show hosts interview all three of those women without fawning over them. I think the thing about Sunny is she's a hypocrite, and people's lack of energy around that interview kiiiiind of speaks volumes about some of the sociopolitical happenings over the last few years.

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12 minutes ago, Haleth said:
22 minutes ago, OnTime said:

So what exactly did she  give up to watch these debates? It wasn't 10 hours at the gym!

The Bachelorette. 

Well, The Bachelorette was only on one night for two hours. That still leaves Meghan eight hours......

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1 minute ago, 27bored said:

And I don't think it's fair to criticize Meghan for her more pugilistic comments about Democrats as if any of her co-hosts only criticize Republicans with exacting grace.

Joy always makes it a point to call out the Republican leadership. Meghan doesn't make that distinction.

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1 minute ago, blondiec0332 said:

And I don't think it's fair to criticize Meghan for her more pugilistic comments about Democrats as if any of her co-hosts only criticize Republicans with exacting grace.

Well said. 

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If Meghan was the political junkie (in vitro) patriotic, democracy lover that she claims to be- shouldn’t she just be loving the whole process?  I know that at least 15 of these candidates do not have a snowballs chance in hell of winning.  Many of them will start dropping like flies. The election is still 15 months away.  If she feels that they are wasting her time, maybe she should be in another line of business (please!!  I know, wishful thanking)

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4 minutes ago, blondiec0332 said:

Joy always makes it a point to call out the Republican leadership. Meghan doesn't make that distinction.

Exactly.

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There’s an opening—take her Andy!! A lunatic like McCain could only fit in on Real Housewives.

2 hours ago, blondiec0332 said:

Joy always makes it a point to call out the Republican leadership. Meghan doesn't make that distinction.

And yet McCain is the one who takes everything personally. Funny, that.

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6 minutes ago, blondiec0332 said:

Joy always makes it a point to call out the Republican leadership. Meghan doesn't make that distinction.

This is getting a bit O/T, but I don't think Joy "always makes it a point" to call out Republican leadership so much as she just says things the audience will applaud her for. And even if she were speaking to leadership exclusively, she still only makes these gauzy statements with a smirk at the end.

I'm not sure who in the Democratic leadership Meghan is supposed to give credit to in terms of drawing a distinction.

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25 minutes ago, TheGreenKnight said:

Something must've happened behind-the-scenes for Whoopi's demeanor to change the past two weeks. She's talking more and now she's jumping in and snapping at people--but not her baby, McCain, who is the biggest offender. I wonder if TPTB told her to either do her job and moderate, or they'll find somebody who will.

Ya, but we KNOW that's not going to happen (except in our dreams).  LOL.

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1 hour ago, Medicine Crow said:

Whoopi's rant was absolutely certifiable ... she wants her write-offs back ... great way to connect with the audience (idiot)!!!!

She is so self-absorbed.  She came up poor and should be touting economics for the less fortunate.

1 hour ago, rickhurst3186 said:

And Ana shot back at Megs "he was a friend of mine, too!" Damn, cant Megs just shut up? Lucky Russians got to ban her!!!🤣🤣😂😂🤣

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I really like Strayer (?).  He puts his money where his mouth is.

1 minute ago, blondiec0332 said:

She even bitched about having to pay for things related to her pneumonia and hospital stay.  If she had been someone without insurance or not enough insurance that illness would have bankrupted her.

That was too unbelievable.

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41 minutes ago, TheGreenKnight said:

There’s an opening—take her Andy!! A lunatic like McCain could only fit in on Real Housewives.

OMG!  She would fit in so well.  LET'S MAKE THIS HAPPEN!

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1 hour ago, Sarah Heart said:

Joe put Gillibrand in the ground, right on Meghan well said. , I enjoyed how he did that as well.

I was surprised they showed the pic of Joe and Gillibrand together with her thanking him for his support on some issue. I would like to see that oped  because, according to the panelists, what Gillibrand claimed was absolutely not true, and she neglected to read the whole thing. How, I wonder, was she able to pull out that oped so quickly? Are the candidates given the topics to be discussed prior to the debate? Did anyone else notice this???

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How, I wonder, was she able to pull out that oped so quickly? Are the candidates given the topics to be discussed prior to the debate? Did anyone else notice this???

They do not know the topics but they have seasoned debate prep pros who make sure they have an answer for anything that comes up.  If the candidate stumbles it's the fault of the staff.

Since the last debates all the candidates have had their staffs working overtime to find reasons to get in a dig at Biden (primarily) and to a lesser extent, Harris.  Most of them knew this was their last gasp at a gotcha moment, so they used anything they could find, even if it was a dubious quote from 30 years ago.  It worked for Kamala in the last debate, everyone else wanted their stand out moment too.  But here's the thing (tm Whoopi), they all have been in politics long enough to know it's not personal.  They all have pretty tough hides and can take a few punches, even from "friends."  They'll continue to work together after everything shakes out and they'll all fall in line behind the eventual candidate.

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10 minutes ago, PennyPie18 said:

I was surprised they showed the pic of Joe and Gillibrand together with her thanking him for his support on some issue. I would like to see that oped  because, according to the panelists, what Gillibrand claimed was absolutely not true, and she neglected to read the whole thing. How, I wonder, was she able to pull out that oped so quickly? Are the candidates given the topics to be discussed prior to the debate? Did anyone else notice this???

I haven't tried to find the oped, but that was (I think Sunny said) dishonest. 

16 minutes ago, jumper sage said:

She even bitched about having to pay for things related to her pneumonia and hospital stay.  If she had been someone without insurance or not enough insurance that illness would have bankrupted her.

She did? I missed that day. I thought she was very gracious in thanking the doctors and nurses, now I hear this..smh. 

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 I'm always embarrassed for whoopi when she rants her nonsensical lectures. Watching all the other women faces as she rambles is hilarious.  I agree Whoopi didnt watch the debate. 

My god Meghan it really isn't always about you, damn!

 I knew very little about Tulsi Gabbard , so I was intrested in what the women were saying. 

Whoopi to princess baby - "go ahead finish baby."🤮🤮🤮🤮

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7 minutes ago, Sarah Heart said:
23 minutes ago, jumper sage said:

She even bitched about having to pay for things related to her pneumonia and hospital stay.  If she had been someone without insurance or not enough insurance that illness would have bankrupted her.

She did? I missed that day. I thought she was very gracious in thanking the doctors and nurses, now I hear this..smh. 

Actually that was @blondiec0332's quote.

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10 minutes ago, Haleth said:

They do not know the topics but they have seasoned debate prep pros who make sure they have an answer for anything that comes up.  If the candidate stumbles it's the fault of the staff.

Since the last debates all the candidates have had their staffs working overtime to find reasons to get in a dig at Biden (primarily) and to a lesser extent, Harris.  Most of them knew this was their last gasp at a gotcha moment, so they used anything they could find, even if it was a dubious quote from 30 years ago.  It worked for Kamala in the last debate, everyone else wanted their stand out moment too.  But here's the thing (tm Whoopi), they all have been in politics long enough to know it's not personal.  They all have pretty tough hides and can take a few punches, even from "friends."  They'll continue to work together after everything shakes out and they'll all fall in line behind the eventual candidate.

I was really annoyed with Whoopie and Joy who seem to think that Joe Biden should be given the nomination. He has to show and prove why he is deserving of it. Sunny and Ana understood that it is a vetting process and the Democrats will decide next year who is the best man or woman for the job.  Some of the people on the stage were also interviewing for a place in the Democratic administration if a Democrat wins in 2020.  

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The op-ed in question is completely different from what Gillibrand said in the debate.  She pretty much straight up lied, as Sunny pointed out.  Even if you don't like Biden, you cannot read that op-ed and get what Gillibrand was saying about him.  It will hurt her more than him.  (NutMeg still cannot pronounce her name correctly by the way.)

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This was the "can I finish?" moment when NutMeg had a tiny hissy fit when Joy interrupted her rat a tat recitation of her blue cards.  Someone did laugh in the background but I suspect it was Joy and Ana, not Whoopi.

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/08/can-i-finish-meghan-mccain-blows-up-over-interruptions-as-whoopi-goldberg-cracks-up-off-camera/

This was the dust-up with Ana over Tulsi, but unfortunately leaves out part of Nutmeg's meltdown about "blood-letting" Repubs and her childish: he's my friend (about the guy Ana said has broken with Tulsi over Assad).

https://www.thedailybeast.com/meghan-mccain-clashes-with-view-co-hosts-on-tulsi-gabbard-shes-no-russian-stooge

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I will say 😆 that Joy was not amused when Whoopi mocked her when she said she had to think about what Steyer said to her about impeachment.  Whoopi was still doing damage control with Joy when she did the close at the end.

20 minutes ago, Coffeewinewater said:

 I'm always embarrassed for whoopi when she rants her nonsensical lectures. Watching all the other women faces as she rambles is hilarious.  I agree Whoopi didnt watch the debate. 

That  was too funny.  Joy asked Whoopi what she thought about the debate and Whoopi went into an unintelligible rant about Amazon again.  All of the co-hosts tried to put on faces that indicated that they were listening closely to her (especially Sunny, with her thoughtful and intent expression 🤣).  

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4 hours ago, blondiec0332 said:

That is a skit for SNL when they come back in the Fall.  Have a bunch of cast members say things about Republicans and have each of them say not you Meghan.

The View should start doing it too. Every time one of them says anything they should say not you Meghan.  

Michael Che's and Colin Jost's assistants!  Are you reading this?  Aidy Bryant, are you here?  Some free and excellent sketch advice!!!   (We can do it here too)

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1 minute ago, bannana said:

I will say 😆 that Joy was not amused when Whoopi mocked her when she said she had to think about what Steyer said to her about impeachment.  Whoopi was still doing damage control with Joy when she did the close at the end.

That  was too funny.  Joy asked Whoopi what she thought about the debate and Whoopi went into an unintelligible rant about Amazon again.  All of the co-hosts tried to put on faces that indicated that they were listening closely to her (especially Sunny, with her thoughtful and intent expression 🤣).  

I was watching Ana,  she had a smirk 😂

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1 hour ago, Sarah Heart said:

I thought the very same thing, no way could she sit and be bothered to watch it all, I'm older than her and I nodded off. But something is off with Whoopi, maybe the tax people, because that's all she talks about

Meghan got feisty, because Joy was nipping, the republicans like Tulsi, the republicans like her. I see nothing wrong in that. 

If it is true that Russian-bots are supporting her, it is a concern though we have no reason to believe she has a thing to do with that. 

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Here's an excerpt from the article (URL posted by Bananna):

“There is a lot of writings in Russia Today and Russian traffic around Tulsi,” Navarro stated, referencing the notorious Russian propaganda media arm. “There is something going on. I suspect it’s not knowingly by her because I think she’s a decent human being who served this country, but I’m paranoid.”

McCain seemingly took this to mean that any Republican who found Gabbard intriguing was being influenced by Russia, bringing up the fact that her family is sanctioned from traveling to Russia while explaining why she liked Gabbard.

  1. John McCain personally was banned from entering Russia in 2015.
  2. Does a death ever end a Russian sanction?
  3. Was Meghan was also banned?  
  4. If so, can't Abby ask Daddy for help?

  

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On 7/31/2019 at 8:52 AM, tinkerbell said:

Yes, really.  He is over 40, he is not a child.  While she says positive things about him, Whoopi is being disrespectful by calling him a 'kid'.  Its the same as calling female candidates 'girl', it whittles away at their credibility. 

No kidding!  how much you pay for ACA health care depends on your age.   I am very healthy for my age, take no meds, yet pay over $900/month for an HMO plan with the ACA.  

I am so thankful that nearly 30 years ago I stumbled into a job  that offered good insurance because I would be SOOOO screwed without it (I have MS and meds cost almost $7K/mo).  I really wish that those without financial worries would be more understanding of regular folks who struggle with this issue.  The Meg's and Whoopies will never have to worry about whether or not they can get care.

I am looking forward to the report about what happens today on the view.  I watched the debates and saw the Princess was tweeting.  

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29 minutes ago, HaaCHOO said:

I think Meghan could be declared "worse" than the others because she's the "professional" as the resident proclaimed "pundint" and political analyst in politics since she was in the womb.  The others are an actress, a stand-up comedian, an attorney/ journalist, and an ambassador's daughter.  The first three have been forced into the pundit category by the ABC suits and the times.  McCain was hired for her ancestry and (heh heh heh) professional expertise.

It’s true Meghan has been doing political punditry for awhile...prior to even being in The View. She’s not responsible for the political bent of the show, the backgrounds of her co-hosts, their often silly commentary, or the dynamic of the show. Before her, it was Elisabeth who everybody hated and also didn’t acquit herself well in political dialogue. The only difference is Elisabeth was prissy and Meghan is barf emoji.

I will say, Meghan and Abby are both the daughters of lowercase-R Republicans. Two men liberals would pick if they “haaaaad” to go with a Republican. Thus, they are two men the right didn’t like, in broad strokes. Too eager to throw the base under the bus on hot button topics; too eager to pander to the media; too willing to go after members of their own party to be trustworthy.

So, it makes sense that Meghan and Abby fit on a show like the View where they can be center-right on paper, but only have to embody it some of the time. Since their discussions mostly center around Trump — a guy who isn’t the gentleman their dads are/were but managed to do what their  dads couldn’t — they can just offer up demurrals to keep the conversation going. 

Thats why Meghan got hired. Not because she’s a professional.

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4 minutes ago, Natalie68 said:

I am so thankful that nearly 30 years ago I stumbled into a job  that offered good insurance because I would be SOOOO screwed without it (I have MS and meds cost almost $7K/mo). 

Natalie...so very sorry abut the MS.  My mother went back to work in 1949 to support three little kids alone--after not working for ten years.  I don't know if she began her preaching to us then or shortly thereafter, but she impressed on us the need for "benefits" (medical insurance).  Her three daughters always sought out work with benefits and so did most of her grandchildren.  Those grandchildren (now in their 40s) without benefits are all receiving some sort of state aid--and non with catastrophic conditions.  Those days of "benefits" are disappearing too quickly.   Whoopi squawks about her taxes; we squawk about health insurance.

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Did you notice Meghan’s uncomfortable reaction to the suggestion that there’s an opening on Real Housewives she could fill? 

It’s almost as if she is in negotiations for that spot. She also thinks she’s too young to be on that show - Maggie, somebody had to be the youngest. And none of the women in Real Housewives of New York are married. 

Whoopi’s  meandering sign off was weird. I think she may actually have some neurological problem.... 

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23 hours ago, PennyPie18 said:

I am older than Whoopi so, yes, I have MANY of those forgetful  moments. That's why I was wondering if she is having neurological problems. I hope not. For those of you who are big fans of Whoopi, I highly recommend renting the movie "Soapdish".  Whoopi and Sally Field are hilarious in this spoof of soap operas. I mean, it's sooooooo funny, and Whoopi is terrific, as is the whole cast. Really, if you need a good laugh, rent this film....especially if you are, or ever have, been a soap opera fan.

It is an AWESOME movie!  It also has a scene that reminds me of our President.  When Sally's character is feeling down, Whoopi takes her to the Paramus mall and gets a crowd of fans swarming.  This is what he uses the rallies for.  They are a salve for his itty bitty hurt feelings.

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12 minutes ago, HaaCHOO said:

Ben, when you're preparing your wife's blue cards, some of the words should be printed phonetically.  Always spell Gillibrand with a "J" to help Meggie look prepared.  

Also, when you give her a "word of the day," be sure that is written phonetically too.

MOM

You crack me up😀

Seriously though, can Meghan not hear the others say Gillibrand's name?  

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1 hour ago, jumper sage said:
  43 minutes ago, blondiec0332 said:

She even bitched about having to pay for things related to her pneumonia and hospital stay.  If she had been someone without insurance or not enough insurance that illness would have bankrupted her.

1 hour ago, Sarah Heart said:

She did? I missed that day. I thought she was very gracious in thanking the doctors and nurses, now I hear this..smh. 

I don't recall it but I believe it.  We had an impressive months-long experience (bile duct cancer+liver transplant) at the great and venerable Mayo Clinic in Phoenix.  Our family continues to praise and brag about the entire medical staff and the facility (even ER).  Communications, Scheduling, Records...complete opposite.  One example: our patient's MRI and all his records were lost from November to January.   (So far his employer-provided health insurance has been miraculous)

It's possible to have things both ways.

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16 minutes ago, HaaCHOO said:

Natalie...so very sorry abut the MS.  My mother went back to work in 1949 to support three little kids alone--after not working for ten years.  I don't know if she began her preaching to us then or shortly thereafter, but she impressed on us the need for "benefits" (medical insurance).  Her three daughters always sought out work with benefits and so did most of her grandchildren.  Those grandchildren (now in their 40s) without benefits are all receiving some sort of state aid--and non with catastrophic conditions.  Those days of "benefits" are disappearing too quickly.   Whoopi squawks about her taxes; we squawk about health insurance.

Thank you!  I am a lucky one who hasn't suffered terribly.  <fingers crossed>

That was the same advice we got from my husbands grandmother.  At 21 were like 'whatevs' and then I got the job and ended up being so relieved!  Best advice ever.  It is sad that more places can't offer them due to cost.  

Maybe after their vacation I can start watching again.  It has been a nice break!

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14 minutes ago, PradaKitty said:

Did you notice Meghan’s uncomfortable reaction to the suggestion that there’s an opening on Real Housewives she could fill? 

It’s almost as if she is in negotiations for that spot. She also thinks she’s too young to be on that show - Maggie, somebody had to be the youngest. And none of the women in Real Housewives of New York are married. 

I love this.  There's a Beverly Hills Ho'wife who's 38.  And...of the current (5) New York "wives," two got divorces after they went on the show, another divorcee got married AND divorced while on the show, and there's a widow and another divorcee.  Doesn't bode well for Mr. Domenech. 

I watch ONLY the NY show

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4 minutes ago, HaaCHOO said:

I don't recall it but I believe it.  We had an impressive months-long experience (bile duct cancer+liver transplant) at the great and venerable Mayo Clinic in Phoenix.  Our family continues to praise and brag about the entire medical staff and the facility (even ER).  Communications, Scheduling, Records...complete opposite.  One example: our patient's MRI and all his records were lots from November to January.   (So far his employer-provided health insurance has been miraculous)

It's possible to have things both ways.

My father had a liver transplant. I don't know if the impressive month, is because you're a nurse, or a family member. .Either way, it's a crazy journey. Mad respect Haachoo

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22 minutes ago, PradaKitty said:

Did you notice Meghan’s uncomfortable reaction to the suggestion that there’s an opening on Real Housewives she could fill? 

It’s almost as if she is in negotiations for that spot. She also thinks she’s too young to be on that show - Maggie, somebody had to be the youngest. And none of the women in Real Housewives of New York are married. 

Whoopi’s  meandering sign off was weird. I think she may actually have some neurological problem.... 

I've seen Meghan on WWHL. It's so fun, she isn't scowling , Jerry is right. Even Anna knew the HW show, Tinsley..lol

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5 hours ago, blondiec0332 said:

The View should start doing it too. Every time one of them says anything they should say not you Meghan.  

The View should also have everyone that MM interrupts say "LET ME FINISH!", since MM does it even when she is the one who started talking over the guest or cohost.

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Whoopi’s complaint was the doctors ordered something to go home with her that insurance wouldn’t cover. It might have been something to strengthen breathing capacity. They were going to get her something that was not as effective. ( perhaps the plastic container with blue balls that you force your breath into?)   Whoopi said I can afford to pay for it but what about patients that can’t. 

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8 minutes ago, deirdra said:

The View should also have everyone that MM interrupts say "LET ME FINISH!", since MM does it even when she is the one who started talking over the guest or cohost.

The producers don't have the guts to encourage it, but wouldn't you LOVE to hear the audience yell that back???   It would definitely make more people tune in.

12 minutes ago, Sarah Heart said:

Even Anna knew the HW show, Tinsley..lol

Oh...so sorry I forgot Tinsley.  She was a REAL debutante and a little fixture in NY society back in the day.  Meghan won't like that.

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35 minutes ago, athousandclowns said:

Whoopi’s complaint was the doctors ordered something to go home with her that insurance wouldn’t cover. It might have been something to strengthen breathing capacity. They were going to get her something that was not as effective. ( perhaps the plastic container with blue balls that you force your breath into?)   Whoopi said I can afford to pay for it but what about patients that can’t. 

But that happens all the time.  Any device or procedure has to go through a procedure before it is accepted by insurance companies.   My dad had to have a heart valve replaced.  Medicare wouldn't pay for the state-of-the-art valve that was recommended,  and the one that would be covered was not appropriate for him for other reasons.   He had to wait until the procedure he needed went through the proper testing so that Medicare approved it.  Whoopi lacks the understanding  of how things work.  Insurance companies will opt to pay for less expensive equipment, drugs, procedures, because that's how insurance companies make a profit.  

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I would have thought with WG's salary she would have qualified for a tax reduction. Right? But now she wants her write off's as well?

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